The playing consolidation thread

[larryace]

I thought it would be really convenient to have a thread where everyone posted links to their playing. I'm always interested in hearing how everyone plays, and rather than searching here and there, everyone who wants to participate can post links to their playing, and have it all in one place. Here's mine:
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47924
Thanks for your support
Larry

[Rezn8]

Cool idea Larry. I enjoy checking out other drummers as well. Here's a few of mine:

http://www.youtube.com/evinger
http://www.soundclick.com/unite

http://affiliate.kickapps.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4695646&as=74294

Cheers!

[larryace]

OK Rezn8, thanks for chiming in. Rather than thank everyone who participates, I'm just going to send a blanket "Thanks!" to anyone who posts.

You're a lefty eh Rezn8? Keeps most guys from asking to sit in ha ha. Great funk groove, too. In the 2nd link are all those songs you playing?
You got groove.

[Rezn8]

OK Rezn8, thanks for chiming in. Rather than thank everyone who participates, I'm just going to send a blanket "Thanks!" to anyone who posts.

You're a lefty eh Rezn8? Keeps most guys from asking to sit in ha ha. Great funk groove, too. In the 2nd link are all those songs you playing?
You got groove.

Thanks! I enjoyed listening to your tunes too. Well being a lefty is a double edged sword - I had to turn away a lot of gigs with multiple bands on the bill b/c you often have to share a kit. Also makes it harder to sit in. Anyway, I recently started trying to play right-handed and it is quite a challenge. Most of the songs on the soundclick page are me on drums unless otherwise noted. My bass player plays drums on some tracks when I'm singing/playing guitar. he's got a killer groove. Cheers, Rez

[Pollyanna]

Larry, you already know I like your drumming. Rezn, you guys make such a sweet funky rhythm section. You guys are so smooth it would be a shame for me to wave my swine amongst your pearls while I'm still working on raising my technique from the ashes.

Still, I can offer this little gem from yesterday when I went for the big rim shot and ended up with the big rim click - I must have pulled a face when I did it because our singer lost the plot when I did it :D

http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/bm_thrill-is-gone-grand-finale.mp3

Kids, don't try this at home ...

[freebirdgdw]

Larry, you already know I like your drumming. Rezn, you guys make such a sweet funky rhythm section. You guys are so smooth it would be a shame for me to wave my swine amongst your pearls while I'm still working on raising my technique from the ashes.

Still, I can offer this little gem from yesterday when I went for the big rim shot and ended up with the big rim click - I must have pulled a face when I did it because our singer lost the plot when I did it :D

http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/bm_thrill-is-gone-grand-finale.mp3

Kids, don't try this at home ...

The humiliation! The laughter!...

[Pollyanna]

The humiliation! The laughter!...

Ha, he's one of my favourite people in the world and he loves my playing (more than it deserves) so I didn't feel humiliated. He has such a contagious laugh and the tape doesn't capture the fact that the whole band was in stitches, including me.

But ... like any drummer I really HATE missing rimshots. It makes you look like such a gronk lol

[keep it simple]

Still, I can offer this little gem from yesterday when I went for the big rim shot and ended up with the big rim click - I must have pulled a face when I did it because our singer lost the plot when I did it :D

http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/bm_thrill-is-gone-grand-finale.mp3

Kids, don't try this at home ...

Can't open this Polly. I'm a real computer dud so help me out.

[Pollyanna]

KIS, try doing this:

1. Right click the link

2. Select "Save Target As" (if you're using Internet Explorer)

3. Make sure you save it in a place you can find it, such as the My Documents or the Desktop

4. Double click the saved file. It should open in Media Player.

Let me know how you get on.

Cheers

P

[keep it simple]

Thanks Polly. It worked! Love the rim click. It happens to me from time to time. I just pretend I'm having a latin moment.

[larryace]

Polly lol it sounds like you meant to do that. Hey at least you're in a band that laughs off the mistakes instead of getting the raised eyebrow questionable serious look.

[Steamer]

Good idea!

Here's all my Youtube clips together in one place:

Bruce Freedman Trio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3aiuX18Anc&feature=PlayList&p=77F60EBA48F75CC7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIHDnFLfzVQ&feature=PlayList&p=77F60EBA48F75CC7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrLjOMrKZGk&feature=PlayList&p=77F60EBA48F75CC7

Jared Burrows Quartet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-WbzNmfn_I&feature=PlayList&p=77F60EBA48F75CC7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FihA1FDOUbI&feature=PlayList&p=77F60EBA48F75CC7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7S588Ya_14&feature=PlayList&p=77F60EBA48F75CC7

[Pollyanna]

Polly lol it sounds like you meant to do that. Hey at least you're in a band that laughs off the mistakes instead of getting the raised eyebrow questionable serious look.

Yes, we have a lot of laughs - that way we don't cry :) I think what amused Glenn so much was the pained look on my face when I did it and the fact that I just gave up instead of bluffing through ... which is why I waited a moment and only went through with the final crash when I could see everyone else was committed to it LOL

Better not do that tomorrow night 'cos we're playing at a nearby venue. I'll be bluffin' it all the way ... must remember ... think Latin, think Latin!

I kinda wish someone else posted their playing between mine and Stan's. Ouch! :)

[Naigewron]

No videos, but I keep my most relevant music on my MySpace page:
http://www.myspace.com/naigewron

[keep it simple]

No videos, but I keep my most relevant music on my MySpace page:
http://www.myspace.com/naigewron

Love "Dirt". Good track, solid drumming.

[Naigewron]

Love "Dirt". Good track, solid drumming.

Thanks! Your username is pretty much my motto :-)

[yesdog]

here are mine

http://www.youtube.com/user/slfsc

[lochday]

Good idea!

Here's all my Youtube clips together in one place:

Bruce Freedman Trio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3aiuX18Anc&feature=PlayList&p=77F60EBA48F75CC7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIHDnFLfzVQ&feature=PlayList&p=77F60EBA48F75CC7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrLjOMrKZGk&feature=PlayList&p=77F60EBA48F75CC7

Jared Burrows Quartet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-WbzNmfn_I&feature=PlayList&p=77F60EBA48F75CC7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FihA1FDOUbI&feature=PlayList&p=77F60EBA48F75CC7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7S588Ya_14&feature=PlayList&p=77F60EBA48F75CC7

I especially liked "clear the way" . Very nice druming in both the trio and the 4tet.

In a very different approach here's some part time experiment of mine in totally "free" music (very special) with EUCAL :
Here
http://www.reverbnation.com/patricklecordier?popup_render=%2Fcontroller%2Farti st%2Fadd_photo%2F470708%3Ffrom_activate%3Dtrue

[Steamer]

I especially liked "clear the way" . Very nice druming in both the trio and the 4tet.

In a very different approach here's some part time experiment of mine in totally "free" music (very special) with EUCAL :
Here
http://www.reverbnation.com/patricklecordier?popup_render=%2Fcontroller%2Farti st%2Fadd_photo%2F470708%3Ffrom_activate%3Dtrue

Thanks Patrick. I dig that one too on a personal level since I enjoy the openess and the ability for having a place to move on slower tempo Trane/Elvin type swing approach concepts when playing the music. Bruce is one of the "real deals" here in Canada for playing this music.

Great to see {and hear} all your tracks on one player. I've heard a few of these before. Very nice playing and recording quality indeed.


P.S. The mods should make this thread a sticky to document the wide cross section of playing offerings of our various members.

[lochday]

Thanks Patrick. I dig that one too on a personal level since I enjoy the openess and the ability for having a place to move on slower tempo Trane/Elvin type swing approach concepts when playing the music. Bruce is one of the "real deals" here in Canada for playing this music.

I dig the Trane/Elvin type too, and you are right, there's more space to play and say things and have it cooking at slower tempo.


Great to see {and hear} all your tracks on one player. I've heard a few of these before. Very nice playing and recording quality indeed.

Thanks for listening to this very special, atonal, harmonycally and rythmically disengaged type of music, sort of harmolodics as it were but it's a lot of fun to play it.

P.S. The mods should make this thread a sticky to document the wide cross section of playing offerings of our various members.
Sure they should. Larryace 's idea of such a thread was really a good one.

[bermuda]

bermudaschwartz.com/audio.htm (http://www.bermudaschwartz.com/audio.htm)

[Garvin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alLfLfQwPoM Drum kit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vr3wmiDYCk Tabla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC7_mZW2u5M Djembe (I'm in the green shirt)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfUmebbS9vc Drum kit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oPUMVaBPeA E-Drums

[larryace]

It would be a very happy day for me personally to have this thread upgraded to a sticky. We need more people to participate. (This means you Caddy) Cmon everybody, jump in, the waters beautiful!

[Fishnmusicn]

Well, this may seem a little off, but I want to represent what I do here. I've been playing keyboards the last 10 years - I'm also heavily into fishing out of my kayak and videotape my fishing trips, then edit the footage and put my music in the background.

The reason I wanted to share this aspect of my "musicianship" is that I put my own beats in the keyboard stuff note for note along with the fills so its all my choice, not a drum machine.

Also, the last clip has some of my actual drumming from when I was drumming before, though it's a pretty basic demo song. I have an acoustic set that I'm building up now, and am going to buy a Zoom H2 when the time is right although it probably won't be as good as some miced up stuff - then I'll be ready to share some current drumming.

The first video I just put up a few days ago with a beat that can maybe be described as a hip-hop shuffle type thing - since I've been a drummer before, I get a little more involved with the beat than some keyboardists do, it's very important to me. The third video you have to get through the beginning but the music will start not too long after.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYzXrrlXdM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBAl5JHCge0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlQGsZrR0rI&feature=PlayList&p=535724FEFF936D04&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOy56zIlPVc

Fishnmusicn

[Clayton_C]

Just posted these on a new thread before seeing this one. Yikes!
Jazz Solo:
http://www.4shared.com/file/132716640/bf615dfb/Evolution__Drum_Solo_.html
Drum n Bass Solo:
http://www.4shared.com/file/132716649/c6bde55f/Yoyo_Mayo.html
Electric Rock Recording:
http://www.4shared.com/file/130556780/3dc16e22/Bumpy_Road_Ahead.html

Simple stuff, nothing fancy. Certainly not rehearsed, haha!

[keep it simple]

Well, this may seem a little off, but I want to represent what I do here. I've been playing keyboards the last 10 years - I'm also heavily into fishing out of my kayak and videotape my fishing trips, then edit the footage and put my music in the background.

The reason I wanted to share this aspect of my "musicianship" is that I put my own beats in the keyboard stuff note for note along with the fills so its all my choice, not a drum machine.

Also, the last clip has some of my actual drumming from when I was drumming before, though it's a pretty basic demo song. I have an acoustic set that I'm building up now, and am going to buy a Zoom H2 when the time is right although it probably won't be as good as some miced up stuff - then I'll be ready to share some current drumming.

The first video I just put up a few days ago with a beat that can maybe be described as a hip-hop shuffle type thing - since I've been a drummer before, I get a little more involved with the beat than some keyboardists do, it's very important to me. The third video you have to get through the beginning but the music will start not too long after.

Fishnmusicn

All very enjoyable. Great videos. A unique and creative angle (please excuse the fishing pun).

[lochday]

Well, ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYzXrrlXdM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBAl5JHCge0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlQGsZrR0rI&feature=PlayList&p=535724FEFF936D04&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOy56zIlPVc

Fishnmusicn

After watching your videos I feel like going kayac. Great music and great trip on the water I enjoyed it very much. Thanks for sharing this.

[Fishnmusicn]

After watching your videos I feel like going kayac. Great music and great trip on the water I enjoyed it very much. Thanks for sharing this.


You should try it - it's very relaxing... for me it's a means to an end since I'm a fishaholic, but it's a great way to get away from the rat race.

All very enjoyable. Great videos. A unique and creative angle (please excuse the fishing pun).

Glad you enjoyed - it's always fun putting them together.


Fishnmusicn

[Fishnmusicn]

Guys, I hope I didn't sidetrack or derail this thread with my keyboard stuff... Please get back to posting your stuff. There are so many varied and talented players here on so many different levels but we all learn from each other.

[Thaard]

Well, I'll post this here since nobody writes in my thread. C & C please.

http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ia48_-_Drums.mp3

[Fishnmusicn]

Thaard, that sounded good, nice and steady. Where do you get the background music and how did you record this?

Fishnmusicn

[lochday]

Yes, it sounded good, swinging like a kayac cleaving the waters to the rythm of paddles and occasionally a fish jumping out of aqua ... plashes... Nice recording.

[Pollyanna]

Hey Thaard. Nice feel when you're groovin' and I'm sure you already know that some of the fancy bits are a bit late. Sweet drum and cymbal sound.

Here's a sample of my djembe playing from a small gig we played last Tuesday: Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood (http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/bm_15sep_misunderstood.mp3) (hybrid of the Nina and Animals versions).

[FunkyJazzer]

Here is a MySpace with some of my playing:

www.myspace.com/lloydhainesdrums

...and here is a MySpace of a jazz/soul/pop covers band I'm in:

http://www.myspace.com/lemonandlimeband


Would love everybody's critical advice on the drumming in these tracks!
Cheers!
Lloyd.

[Oregan1]

This is me playing with an Indie
We've long since parted ways.
This is an old video before I got my own kit.
I'm not even sure what kit i was playing.

a pearl forum perhaps.
It was horrible anyway. Everything was tuned
really low so there was no rebound off anything.
Still a fun gig.

Enjoy
http://www.bebo.com/c/video?FlashBoxId=8512514650&FlashViewType=Personal&MemberId=7937807266

another segment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnwE_SGbBmU

[Rodaquino]

Hello everyone!here my links,peace.

the music:
(electronic/pop/progressive rock)
http://www.myspace.com/rodrigoaquino

the videos:
http://www.youtube.com/therodrigoaquino
old videos..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcFo32LxZqw

all the best!
Rodrigo.

[Fishnmusicn]

Funky Jazzer, your playing is good but sounds somewhat vanilla to me and safe without too many dynamics. Just my opinion. On the other hand, my opinion is not of a pro - I have my weaknesses too - I'm really trying to evaluate whether I should stick with drumming, or go back to my keyboards - that comes a lot easier to me, and I have a lot of hurdles to get over if I stay with drumming, good drumming doesn't come easy. Despite my own problems with drumming I have pretty good insight into what I'm hearing since I have a good ear for music. I like the Lemon and Lime band - the singer is good and reminds me a bit of Maria Muldaur. Take my opinion with a grain of salt but you wanted feedback - some people don't get any after they post their drumming and that's a shame since even honest opinions would help someone progress. Your are obviously past a beginner level, but it sounds like your playing it safe. Also, your drums are at such a low volume in the mix, it's hard to make them out. JMsomewhatHO.

Fishnmusicn

[Thaard]

Yea, I know some bits are late but i got abit carried away when playing. Much appreciated feedback.

I got the playalongs with Tommy Igoe Groove Essentials 2.0. A definate buy if ya wanna learn som more grooves.

Oh and rod, Nice remix of mercy mercy. Sweet.

[Rodaquino]

Yea, I know some bits are late but i got abit carried away when playing. Much appreciated feedback.

I got the playalongs with Tommy Igoe Groove Essentials 2.0. A definate buy if ya wanna learn som more grooves.

Oh and rod, Nice remix of mercy mercy. Sweet.



Thank you Thaard, I just recently heard your mp3 and I was delighted, I think your style is funky, I like the sound somehow sounds like 70's fusion/funk but the sound quality is not the best style is appreciated, a hug, peace.
Rod.
and larryace thank you for the place;-)

[Thaard]

Thank you Thaard, I just recently heard your mp3 and I was delighted, I think your style is funky, I like the sound somehow sounds like 70's fusion/funk but the sound quality is not the best style is appreciated, a hug, peace.
Rod.
and larryace thank you for the place;-)

Yea, I just recorded and slapped it in with the track. I'll do some mixing next time.

[SickRick]

Here is my stuff:

YouTube channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/DrSticktrick

Songs, worth checking out:

One Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BglZpEh66d8)

Moneypollution (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BSHPvHM2FY&feature=related)

Ragga Jam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niLvbabMug0&feature=related)

Website:

www.dreadnut.net

MySpace:

www.myspace.com/dreadnutmusic

[aydee]

Here's a recorded rehearsal from 5 years ago:

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31864&highlight=my+%28+gulp+%29+playing+2

www.myspace.com/whymsylogic

( sorry, the snare mic is too loud and no overheads... )



Here's some are some riffs Tricycle ( guitar, bass, drums trio ) recorded as compositional ideas ( work in progress):

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44296&highlight=my+%28+gulp+%29+playing+part+2

...

[Thaard]

Here's a recorded rehearsal from 5 years ago:

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31864&highlight=my+%28+gulp+%29+playing+2

www.myspace.com/whymsylogic

( sorry, the snare mic is too loud and no overheads... )



Here's some are some riffs Tricycle recorded as compositional ideas ( work in progress):

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44296&highlight=my+%28+gulp+%29+playing+part+2



...
Yo aydee. Nice grooving drums, though alittle hard to hear(as you mentioned and some misses in places, but thats all good. Cool solos!

Messoforte is awesome. The intro reminds me of a Goldie song(drum n bass).


Sickrick: Nice stuff ya got going on. I love reggae. And Ragga Jam is awesome.

[Pollyanna]

Lutz and Aydee, you guys play groove so well. When I grow up I hope to groove a quarter as well as you do.

Aydee, thanks for the link to your thread too. The exchange between you and The-Artist-Formerly-Known-As-Erik-Lund is amongst the funniest things I've seen on here. I hope Danny survived withut too much trauma. If I had comments like that sent to me they'd have to wrap me in a blanket and give me a hot drink (preferably fortified).

[Bernhard]

Aydee sounds as if he is lefthanded!!??? Are you??

Bernhard

[aydee]

Aydee sounds as if he is lefthanded!!??? Are you??

Bernhard

And you can tell? all the way from the coast, B ??!! Amazing!

@Thaard- thanks, bud.. ya it was a band run thru.. so kinda wimpy in places and the sound was a mess..

@Polly- Erik is a very passionate and a very good drummer with a very kinky sense of humor.. its got the better of him a few times here tho...thanks for the kind words..( PS_ btw- that djembe was rock solid and the slaps on the breaks were tight-tight-tight...very cool )

@Garvin- that tabla was cooking, dude. AND I've heard your djembe and drumkit..You are one multi-talented player!

Lutz's band Dreadnut should really have a big recording contract somewhere..great great songs!! and ultimately thats what its all about ( they might have one by now...Lutz? )

Would love to hear all the links here.. some at a time..

..

[nerdywhiteboy]

My channel

http://www.youtube.com/jderou

Yes I am stuck on one band at the moment. I can't help it, although I play others, none inspire me enough to bother with recording.

[keep it simple]

Here's a recorded rehearsal from 5 years ago:

...

Mezzzoforte my favourite too. I actually like the snare too high in the mix. Gives the track a slightly different drive instead of the usual kick lead. Arrangement reminds me of early Phillips solo stuff. From me, complements don't come higher than that. You showed great sticking talent and kept it simple. A rare balancing act indeed. Love it!

[aydee]

Thank you, very much indeed, KIS... I dont usually play this straight (lol).. we were working the parts out...easier to mark them out this way in practice, but I take all the nice things you said to heart anyway : )


Here is a MySpace with some of my playing:

www.myspace.com/lloydhainesdrums


FJ, man that was awesome! That ride cymbal was everything! great playing, loved it!

Ok, I've recorded drums to the jazz-track from Spencer Strand - cmon now. Theres some errors(especially at bass solo) and the solo's are over-crazy, but I just felt like I had to do it(and have fun).

Link: http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Spencer_Strand_-_Cmon_now_-.mp3



PS- Hey, Thaard, just heard your jazz track- its a play along so I understand you wanting to phrase everything possible !! ; )... great playing and great sounding drums..good job.


..

[Thaard]

Ok, I've recorded drums to the jazz-track from Spencer Strand - cmon now. Theres some errors(especially at bass solo) and the solo's are over-crazy, but I just felt like I had to do it(and have fun).

Link: http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Spencer_Strand_-_Cmon_now_-.mp3

[keep it simple]

KIS... I dont usually play this straight (lol)..
.

Ah well, I can savour the original restrained version when you bring out the full blown virtuoso final cut. I guess if you've got it, you might as well flaunt it!

[keep it simple]

Ok, I've recorded drums to the jazz-track from Spencer Strand - cmon now. Theres some errors(especially at bass solo) and the solo's are over-crazy, but I just felt like I had to do it(and have fun).

Link: http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Spencer_Strand_-_Cmon_now_-.mp3

Hey Thaard, it's the first time I've managed to download one of your tracks. I usually get pages of this filesmelt computer crap then give up.

Nice playing my friend. Quite a heavy snare sound for the material though.

[Thaard]

Hey Thaard, it's the first time I've managed to download one of your tracks. I usually get pages of this filesmelt computer crap then give up.

Nice playing my friend. Quite a heavy snare sound for the material though.

It's the Ian Paice sig snare. It's usually very diversive but I havent changed the snare-head in 5-6 months so thats why it's sounding abit "schlepp".

[Steamer]

i'll also add these two mp3 solo introduction/ group performance tracks of my playing to this forum members consolidation thread:

[Rodaquino]

Here's a recorded rehearsal from 5 years ago:

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31864&highlight=my+%28+gulp+%29+playing+2

www.myspace.com/whymsylogic (http://www.myspace.com/whymsylogic)

( sorry, the snare mic is too loud and no overheads... )



Here's some are some riffs Tricycle ( guitar, bass, drums trio ) recorded as compositional ideas ( work in progress):

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44296&highlight=my+%28+gulp+%29+playing+part+2

...

I like it sounds, I guess with a good mix may sound fantastic, everything is in its right place ;-)
peace!
Rod.
http://www.myspace.com/rodrigoaquino

http://www.youtube.com/TheRodrigoaquino

[Thaard]

i'll also add these two mp3 solo introduction/ group performance tracks of my playing to this forum members consolidation thread:

Anywhere I can hear more of this? Pro-quality.

[keep it simple]

i'll also add these two mp3 solo introduction/ group performance tracks of my playing to this forum members consolidation thread:

Super impressive. Not my genre but I understand the huge degree of skill on display here. I've been listening to this all morning.

[Thaard]

Been really productive today. 2 new playalongs. Some errors here too, but it´s just for practice, so here ya are.

Spence Strand - Burn the bridge.

Link: http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Spencer_Strand_-_Burn_-_Dru.mp3

Spencer Strand - Swampthing.

Link: http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Spencer_Strand_-_Swampthing.mp3

[Therma lobsterdore]

i'll also add these two mp3 solo introduction/ group performance tracks of my playing to this forum members consolidation thread:

Very very nice, some very impressive drumming right there!

Been really productive today. 2 new playalongs. Some errors here too, but it´s just for practice, so here ya are.

They sound great! Very groovey, nice feel and of dynamics too.

Here's some clips of my band, tis simple stuff really...

http://www.dave-o-reed.co.uk/musaq/jam%20on%202009-09-17/Rum%20diaries.mp3
http://www.dave-o-reed.co.uk/musaq/jam%20on%202009-09-17/Clouded.mp3
http://www.dave-o-reed.co.uk/musaq/jam%20on%202009-09-17/The%20trial.mp3

I'd like some opinions on the playing and the composition of the drums. The tracks sound a bit low-fi due to all the crappy mic's we use (so very very crappy).

[keep it simple]

Been really productive today. 2 new playalongs. Some errors here too, but it´s just for practice, so here ya are.

l]

Who's had a fun day then?

[Thaard]

Who's had a fun day then?

Hehe, me ofcourse. I had a 5 hour practice session with the 2 playalongs in the end.
But I feel exhausted so I'll try to limit to 3 hours.

Thermalobster: Thats some sound you got. Very gritty. I can see where you wanna go, but you should practice fills abit more. Maybe you should just fill with hihat and snare(think it would sound cooler). And sometimes the vocalist screams so high i get ear-pains, but that can easily be fixed.

[Fishnmusicn]

My sincerest apologies go out to Funky Jazzer - talk about harsh criticisms, must have been that time of the month for me - even some old guys are afflicted with that lol... I relistened to your stuff, like your jazz stuff a lot and your restraint in the other band compliments the music and the singer, both terrific bands you got there:) and by the way I like your profile photo on the jazz myspace - looks like the British mod look of the sixties- pretty cool, is that really you? Keep up the good work brother...

Fishnmusicn

[Steamer]

Anywhere I can hear more of this? Pro-quality.


Yes. These are just a couple of sample tracks of compressed files from much larger size files I was given by a recording enginner to fit DW standards.

I have played on several released CD's with these and other different band leaders of full resolution pro audio quality full length recordings.

Here's a short list of some recent released recordings i'm on in the last few years:

"Full Circle" Len Aruliah Quartet
"Plan on Stan" Jared Burrows Trio
"Casual Coordinates" ESQ
"Graduation Suite" Lorne Kellet Trio
"Chris Trinidad's Common Themes III"

and one hot off the press just this week recorded in early July this summer........

"Aspects" Jared Burrows Trio

Release of the new Jared Burrows Quartet CD is coming down the road after another few recording sessions in the studio.


The official ESQ website in particular has some sound samples you can check out Thaard from the CD:

http://www.eastsidequintet.com/index.php?p=music


Oh and thanks for all the nice comments guys. Much appreciated....

[Thaard]

Some really groovy stuff there man.

[Therma lobsterdore]

Hehe, me ofcourse. I had a 5 hour practice session with the 2 playalongs in the end.
But I feel exhausted so I'll try to limit to 3 hours.

Thermalobster: Thats some sound you got. Very gritty. I can see where you wanna go, but you should practice fills abit more. Maybe you should just fill with hihat and snare(think it would sound cooler). And sometimes the vocalist screams so high i get ear-pains, but that can easily be fixed.

Thanks for the tips, I'll put them into the next jam, hopefully we can get a decent recording done next time. I think we need to tighten up, and our vocalist is very much finding her feet with the songs at the mo. Cheers!

[Thaard]

Thanks for the tips, I'll put them into the next jam, hopefully we can get a decent recording done next time. I think we need to tighten up, and our vocalist is very much finding her feet with the songs at the mo. Cheers!

Yes. But you're atleast recording and hearing what you play, so it's easier to correct. Looking forward to next recording.

[Fishnmusicn]

I found an old one that goes back to the nineties - an old Savoy Brown song that we recorded in a bar.
Fishnmusicn

[SickRick]

Sickrick: Nice stuff ya got going on. I love reggae. And Ragga Jam is awesome.

Lutz and Aydee, you guys play groove so well. When I grow up I hope to groove a quarter as well as you do.


Lutz's band Dreadnut should really have a big recording contract somewhere..great great songs!! and ultimately thats what its all about ( they might have one by now...Lutz? )


Haha... thanks guys :)

No, we don't have a recording contract and to be honest: We are not really looking out for one. I guess we are a bit afraid that we would not be able to play our stuff the way we want it. Also: We are a really expensive band to record, so the risk for any label would be high... But we are working really hard these days: We have 10 more gigs coming only this year, we'll spend one week in October together in a big house far away from civilization to write new songs and to rehearse and we're planning to record new material and a new album early next year.

I'll take some recording equipment to that rehearsal week along with a camera and I'll try to post some of the results here. The "One Love" video was the result of exactly that, only that we didn't have one week back then but only a half day.

[Thaard]

2 new tracks. I didn't have a metronome on memphis so theres some timing issues.

Spencer Strand - Lemmi count it off.
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Spencer_Strand_-_Lemmi_-_Dr.mp3

Spencer Strand - Memphis.
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Spencer_Strand_-_Memphis_-_.mp3

[ZACK B]

http://www.youtube.com/user/burnhotburnclean

some chops from my basement...

[Thaard]

http://www.youtube.com/user/burnhotburnclean

some chops from my basement...

hah, that latino-funk beat was cool. You should get some mics so we can hear your drums better.

[Thaard]

New recording. Nothing special, just practicing time in 4/4.

Spencer Strand - Candy Striper.
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Spencer_Strand_-_Candy_Stri.mp3

[The Colonel]

Hi Polly/Aydee - who the heck was that Erik Lund guy, huh? What a douchebag! ...And yet so charming and well-spoken...I changed my mind: I like him!



...Uh...My weird jazz (I need to record some more weird jazz soon...just haven't had any really promising sessions to record in a while...) can be found on the link at the bottom of my posts: www.myspace.com/colonelslastwaltz

and my band New Planets can be found at www.myspace.com/newplanets
the only track with me on it so far is Panhandlin' (which isn't mixed, nor will it be, because we're going back into the studio in October and re-recording it (thank gawd...Everything I played that day was *awful*) The other songs were done a while ago with a different drummer and bass and keys and all that overdubbed. We are acclimating a bassist right now - we've been rocking shows as a three piece (vox/guitar/drums) - check out the pics from The Landing Party to see us in action (and to see my venue!)

[Thaard]

Hi Polly/Aydee - who the heck was that Erik Lund guy, huh? What a douchebag! ...And yet so charming and well-spoken...I changed my mind: I like him!



...Uh...My weird jazz (I need to record some more weird jazz soon...just haven't had any really promising sessions to record in a while...) can be found on the link at the bottom of my posts: www.myspace.com/colonelslastwaltz

and my band New Planets can be found at www.myspace.com/newplanets
the only track with me on it so far is Panhandlin' (which isn't mixed, nor will it be, because we're going back into the studio in October and re-recording it (thank gawd...Everything I played that day was *awful*) The other songs were done a while ago with a different drummer and bass and keys and all that overdubbed. We are acclimating a bassist right now - we've been rocking shows as a three piece (vox/guitar/drums) - check out the pics from The Landing Party to see us in action (and to see my venue!)

Gotta confess that I listened more to your "weird" freejazz'ish stuff than New Planets. Pretty interesting stuff, even if it's difficult to understand sometimes. I really really liked the "De wey Redman with travis" tune.

I've seen some stuff with a drummer called Han Bennink and it's pretty interesting to see what he can churn out of his drums and other things(like floors and throwing cymbals). Your tunes remind me of some of his things/tunes.

[The Colonel]

A Norwegian drummer who knows Han Bennink? We're practically twins! (...I'm half-Norwegian, so I guess we're half-twins...does that make us "one person"? I just blew my mind!)

Thanks for listening!

[Naigewron]

Another Norwegian here. I don't know Han Bennink though, hehe.

[keep it simple]

Here is my stuff:

]

I think your stuff is stunning. Music from the heart. You make easy seem easy. It isn't!

[SickRick]

Another Norwegian here. I don't know Han Bennink though, hehe.

A while back I postet a clip of Han playing on cheese. It's great. I think I called the thread "cheesy drumming". If you do a search you'll find it.

Not too many guys liked that though...



@keep it simple: Thanks a ton, that's a nice compliment. I try to keep things simple you know.... :)

[sebob]

Hi,
Here's my newest video (I've been playing for 2 years):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd11A0PM1cM

This thread is a really good idea! Thanks

ROCK ON!

[keep it simple]

Hi,
Here's my newest video (I've been playing for 2 years):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd11A0PM1cM

This thread is a really good idea! Thanks

ROCK ON!

For only 2 years playing you're doing well. Loads of stuff just waiting to come out of those sticks! Would be good for you to concentrate on some simple grooves though to tighten your timing up. Just for practice, try settng up your kick drum, snare, hihat, ride & 1 crash. No toms and lose the double pedal. Play some very simple single kick grooves very, very slowly. I know it's boring but it's great for your playing. Put some groove based fills together as well. Not easy without your toms & double kick. Good luck on your journey. You're doing just fine.

[Thaard]

A new recording of iq 58 fast(Groove essentials 2). Just practiced to this today, so there are a few weird parts on the changes. Also the snare's seem to drown sometimes.


Link: http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Iq_58_fast_-_drums.mp3

[kindbeats]

Hey everyone,

My youtube channel is http://www.youtube.com/kindbeats

There's a bunch of solos and grooves, as well as a few lessons. Check it out and let me know what you think!

You can also check out http://www.myspace.com/kindbeatsmusic

Also, download my free mixtape featuring Billy Martin, myself, and others at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AGH33YP5

I hope you all enjoy!

[Rodaquino]

this is mi last,but old recorded video,all the best!!
Rod.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2j4W7fBhi8

[FunkyJazzer]

FJ, man that was awesome! That ride cymbal was everything! great playing, loved it!


Appreciate that, man, really do!

[Pollyanna]

A while back I postet a clip of Han playing on cheese. It's great. I think I called the thread "cheesy drumming". If you do a search you'll find it.

Not too many guys liked that though...

Heh, I remember the Cheesy Drumming thread. http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=599147

Some of us liked it, Lutz. I did, and so did KIS, who enjoyed it enough to say "Edam good show. Brielliant!!" lol

Talking of off-the-wall stuff, here is a vid I made for a tune by a twisted little band I was in ... um, 28 years ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnM1AfGglwU

I hadn't worked with video before and had a hell of a time getting the converted Flash file to synch video and music so it did some weird things to the music at times.

... not that a song with a free-form cutlery solo needs any help to sound weird :)

[keep it simple]

Heh, I remember the Cheesy Drumming thread. http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=599147

Some of us liked it, Lutz. I did, and so did KIS, who enjoyed it enough to say "Edam good show. Brielliant!!" lol

Talking of off-the-wall stuff, here is a vid I made for a tune by a twisted little band I was in ... um, 28 years ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnM1AfGglwU

I hadn't worked with video before and had a hell of a time getting the converted Flash file to synch video and music so it did some weird things to the music at times.

... not that a song with a free-form cutlery solo needs any help to sound weird :)

Brings a whole new meaning to "show us your chops". I love it Polly! Great little tune performed by players warped enough to be brave. Love the new avatar too.

[Pollyanna]

Brings a whole new meaning to "show us your chops". I love it Polly! Great little tune performed by players warped enough to be brave. Love the new avatar too.

Thanks v much, KIS :) Most of us have avatars and I felt I was dragging the chain.

Oh yeah, we were warped. That was maybe our most mainstream track - the hit single *grin*. And you will note that I kept it simple!

[keep it simple]

Thanks v much, KIS :) And you will note that I kept it simple!

Yes you did, and all the better for it! Any plans for another cutlery solo?

[Pollyanna]

Yes you did, and all the better for it! Any plans for another cutlery solo?

KIS, you're making my day here! But I can't take all the credit - the cutlery spot was an ensemble soloing effort, kinda like Mahavishnu, y'know? (ahem)

There's another song from the same period where we do mock jungle cries, conceived with a similar level of sophisticated PC'ness as Willy Wonka's Oompaloompahs (ie. zilch). Many microtiming moments from moi, as usual, alas; I wouldn't set my watch by me.

http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/So_Be_It-Jungle_Song.mp3

Since this is a "show and tell" thread, a last one from this period. A heavy number that starts out minimalist and then goes right off the air: http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/so_be_it-cold_turkey.mp3

It was easily the most fun band I've been in and I badly wish I could find some other loonies to play mad music with again *sighhh*

KIS, while walking down down memory lane, do you have any of those old recordings of yours in MP3 format? While your session stuff probably wasn't really "you", it's still worth hearing. As I always say, musos are like dogs - we don't go as far as sniffing each other's bums but we just lurrrve hearing each other's stuff :)

[keep it simple]

KIS, while walking down down memory lane, do you have any of those old recordings of yours in MP3 format? While your session stuff probably wasn't really "you", it's still worth hearing. As I always say, musos are like dogs - we don't go as far as sniffing each other's bums but we just lurrrve hearing each other's stuff :)

I'm loving your old recordings. Some really tasty high tom fills in the jungle song and I love the orgasmic vocals in the second half of Cold Turkey. Quite provocative! Nothing wrong with the timing Polly.

Most unfortunately, I don't have any history stuff of my own in any format. I was just talking to Aydee about this last week. All my recordings were stolen / destroyed during a house break in some 15 years ago. I was living in rented accommodation in Swansea at the time and the little B&^^^%ards stripped the whole house bare when I was away. I was gutted. Ok, some of it was commercial garbage but some was good. Mostly never published so almost impossible to retrieve. Anyhow, by pure coincidence, have a look in the "My playing" section and you'll find a little rock ditty sitting there. I'll get some decent stuff up sometime soon I hope.

[aydee]

...


A totally impromptu jam with a 'visiting' guitar player. Didnt know how to end it we we kinda rolled off the bike.. the beers didnt help either:29077


....

PS- Polly, you rock.. was that you singing? The guitar player's tone is insane.! Reminds me of Adrian Belew's Sexy Rhino.

[keep it simple]

Great stuff Aydee. Good to hear some of your rock roots surfacing. Don't you just love beer fuelled jams!

[aydee]

Don't you just love beer fuelled jams!

Absolutely! Mostly, I like to keep the playing pious and focused, and encourage that atmosphere amongst my fellow musicians, but every now and then someone wicked will show up and wake up the Alamo : )

[Pollyanna]

KIS, that is such a bummer! Like losing your old photos Good on you for dusting yourself off and getting back to it - not easy.

Aydee, that is an awesome jam. You all have ESP, right? You have such a sweet groove and such a raging power trio. The 'visiting' guitarist is a beast.

That wasn't me singing, it was our singer, Ronnie. My voice is like a cross between Bonnie Tyler, Maryanne Faithfull, a crow and a vacuum cleaner. I'm more brave about doing backup vocs now, but I still suck at 'em most days.

Yeah, our guitarist back then was great. He's the guy sitting in with the blues band (drummer playing Texas shuffle) on that vid I linked to before - just 28 years younger. Yeah, I didn't think about the Adrian Belew connection because he's always just talked about Jan Akkerman, Carlos, Jimi, Uncle Frank and Earl Scruggs. I guess Jimi's the common connection.

I don't rock any more. I play polite music now *sigh*. Compare Cold Turkey with this impromptu jam to warm up last Thursday:

http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/bm_make-it-up-as-you-go-along24sep09.mp3

Notice how loud I sound on it? I'm playing my tiny RT Gig Kit playing with 12" Vic Firth Kid Sticks. If this band was any quieter we'd make the Brandburg Orchestra sound like death metal ... more red wine needed IMO.

[aydee]

I don't rock any more. I play polite music now *sigh*. Compare Cold Turkey with this impromptu jam to warm up last Thursday:

http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/bm_make-it-up-as-you-go-along24sep09.mp3

Notice how loud I sound on it? I'm playing my tiny RT Gig Kit playing with 12" Vic Firth Kid Sticks. If this band was any quieter we'd make the Brandburg Orchestra sound like death metal ... more red wine needed IMO.

You do rock. That song kicked butt and you've got a tight swampy thing going with groove so stop being apologetic about it.
Great song, great chords, great attitude, great bass line and yes, great groove. You play with passion and it shows. Thats half the cheeseburger.

[keep it simple]

You do rock. That song kicked butt and you've got a tight swampy thing going with groove so stop being apologetic about it.
Great song, great chords, great attitude, great bass line and yes, great groove. You play with passion and it shows. Thats half the cheeseburger.

Looks like Aydee & myself are going to gang up on you here Polly. I echo everything Aydee said except I take my burgers without cheese!

[Pollyanna]

You do rock. That song kicked butt and you've got a tight swampy thing going with groove so stop being apologetic about it.
Great song, great chords, great attitude, great bass line and yes, great groove. You play with passion and it shows. Thats half the cheeseburger.

Thanks Aydee. We got the cheesiness, the bun, the gherkin and the boogaloo ... guess I'm just looking for a tad more meat :)

Our bassist told me afterwards that the bassline came from a song he'd written years ago. We only play covers but I like that line and will see if the guys want to turn it into an original. Audiences will forgive the odd original slipped into the set if it's danceable.

As for "waking up the Alamo", it doesn't take a lot of corruption, does it? Dunno about beer-fuelled jams but in the old days all it would take was one naughty person to pull out the wacky baccy and we'd come over all Innagottadavita :) These days, our singer and I get stuck into the red while the boys have a beer or two. The wall of sound madness is gone; more like a low fence with some pruned shrubs ...

PS. KIS, posted and saw your last comment. Ta again :) I dunno, I hear stuff played by all the fabbo drummers on the forum so it feels right to add a proviso. I still don't mind cheese on burgers but no more egg unless it's organic and I know the chookie got to scratch around outdoors rather than being stuck in a cage.

[Thaard]

Dunno if anyone still listens to these, but I'll keep postin' them anyway. Some misshits on the bass on some tricky parts, but still one of my favourites.

Tommy Igoe Ib48 fast.
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ib_48_fast_-_Drums.mp3

[Pollyanna]

Dunno if anyone still listens to these, but I'll keep postin' them anyway. Some misshits on the bass on some tricky parts, but still one of my favourites.

Tommy Igoe Ib48 fast.
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ib_48_fast_-_Drums.mp3

Thaard old son, me lad, you've got the goods. You can drum rings around me but I'm in a band and you're doing playalongs. When are you going to take all this good stuff you can do out of your room and into the world with a band?

You've got the gift, all you have to do now is make it happen!

[keep it simple]

Dunno if anyone still listens to these, but I'll keep postin' them anyway. Some misshits on the bass on some tricky parts, but still one of my favourites.

Tommy Igoe Ib48 fast.
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ib_48_fast_-_Drums.mp3

Yup, still listening but I hope you're also listening to Polly. Good advice. Anyhow, nice skills as usual but a bit lost on the fills. Simplify!!! Enjoyable groove.

[Thaard]

Hehe, aww shucks. Thanks! Yea, it was probably the 3'rd time i played to this track so i went alittle Dennis Chambers on it.

I'm actually in a band, but we're waiting for some stuff so that we can make our sound complete(Omnisphere synth plugin to be precise).

I got some recordings to the clicktrack if ya wanna hear. Theres some stuff i have to do over, like streamline my fills.

[aydee]

Polly, you've got a very 'un-feminine' Djembe slap.

Sorry, I dont know what I'm trying to say,,, forget it.

......

PS- ok, what I'm trying to say is that when i heard some authentic djembe players ( I'm no expert ), I was struck by the sheer power of the instrument and what this 'griot' ( ? )played. In my occasional exposure, I've heard it played very controlled or textured, not smacked like he did.

Your smack sounded similar.

PPS- I really think you should record ( make-it-up-as-you-go along? ). Its a killer.( And I should know...)

[Pollyanna]

Thaard, good that you're in a band! I admit to being a bit selfish - I like hearing drummers in a band context more than solo playing. Look forward to you getting a band tune on tape. Understand if you guys are still working on things, though. It can take time.

Polly, you've got a very 'un-feminine' Djembe slap.

Sorry, I dont know what I'm trying to say,,, forget it.

PS- ok, what I'm trying to say is that when i heard some authentic djembe players ( I'm no expert ), I was struck by the sheer power of the instrument and what this 'griot'( ? ). In my occasional exposure, I've heard it played very controlled or textured, not smacked like his did.

Your smack sounded similar.

I'll give YOU an unfeminine slap in a minute if you give me that kind of cheek, boyo! Unfeminine indeed! lol

Actually, I think it was the mic'ing cos I was just tapping the rim with a flat hand. Wy Yung has shown me how to do the kind of slap we talked about on Jason's djembe lesson thread and I haven't mastered it because I dare not practice slaps in my apartment.

In that song I had to lower my vocal mic stand to mic the drum from above, and the sound was pretty bright (maybe for the vocs?). Naturally, it picked up the impact more than the richer tones from the bottom of the drum. I can hardly hear the deep tone on the recording at all, yet I heard it fine on stage. Maybe it was like that out front too, and I was just hearing the acoustic sound?

When we record it properly I'll want the djembe a bit lower in the mix because what makes that song for me is Glenn's vocal performance. Love that soulful stuff :)

BTW Aydee, do you have any examples of your playing on any vocal tunes or do you focus on instrumentals? C'mon, you're a beast, give us another roar!

[keep it simple]

I'll give YOU an unfeminine slap in a minute if you give me that kind of cheek, boyo! Unfeminine indeed! lol



I usually have to pay for that!

[Pollyanna]

I usually have to pay for that!

Good point, KIS. I'll slap 'im down and then charge him for it :)

Since things have slowed down a tad here I'll inflict the evillest song I've played - by the weirdo 1981 band, of course - plus some dubs I added for fun a few years ago. Can you guess what song I dubbed the guitar solos from? God, it was a fun song to play!

http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/So_Be_It-Pied_Piper_remix.mp3

[keep it simple]

Good point, KIS. I'll slap 'im down and then charge him for it :)

Since things have slowed down a tad here I'll inflict the evillest song I've played - by the weirdo 1981 band, of course - plus some dubs I added for fun a few years ago. Can you guess what song I dubbed the guitar solos from? God, it was a fun song to play!

http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/So_Be_It-Pied_Piper_remix.mp3

No idea where you got the solo from. Something is telling me very early Floyd but I'm sure I'm wrong. I like the track although I can't get my head around the vocal. Bit quiet in the mix, doesn't help much.

[Pollyanna]

No idea where you got the solo from. Something is telling me very early Floyd but I'm sure I'm wrong. I like the track although I can't get my head around the vocal. Bit quiet in the mix, doesn't help much.

You have the vintage right, KIS, but no cigar :)

Yeah, Ronnie was a bit too shy to sing up, unfortunately. The song is basically about real estate agents being the pied pipers who lead us to the "doom" of a mortgage, a white picket fence and 2.5 kids ... "Come and take my hand, I will sell you a block of land".

[aydee]

I'll give YOU an unfeminine slap in a minute if you give me that kind of cheek, boyo! Unfeminine indeed! lol


BTW Aydee, do you have any examples of your playing on any vocal tunes or do you focus on instrumentals? C'mon, you're a beast, give us another roar!

Promises, promises... : ) ( KIS I'm coming to your mountain soon..)

New respect for Djembe technique. Garvin's a badass and you've got a great slap.

Vocals?.. strangely I've accidentally and quite happily found myself in a reggae band. Last place I'd imagined. Clueless, I'm faking it well, I'm told. Lutz was kind enough to give me some online tutorials which helped a great deal.. we might record some of it ( think Marley with a funk band )

[aydee]

You have the vintage right, KIS, but no cigar :)

Yeah, Ronnie was a bit too shy to sing up, unfortunately. The song is basically about real estate agents being the pied pipers who lead us to the "doom" of a mortgage, a white picket fence and 2.5 kids ... "Come and take my hand, I will sell you a block of land".

I like her breathy Michael Franks/Norah Jones 'sing into your shirt collar style. All you need to do is get Ronnie amped up to cover that vibe ( Shure SM-57, little compression, more mid-eq? MFB? )

[keep it simple]

Promises, promises... : ) ( KIS I'm coming to your mountain soon..)

New respect for Djembe technique. Garvin's a badass and you've got a great slap.

Vocals?.. strangely I've accidentally and quite happily found myself in a reggae band. Last place I'd imagined. Clueless, I'm faking it well, I'm told. Lutz was kind enough to give me some online tutorials which helped a great deal.. we might record some of it ( think Marley with a funk band )

Reggae! Brave, very brave. It's a feel I just can't get a grip of. I can master the mechanics but my groove is sterile. A bit like my jazz style really. Come to think of it, just about any style other than rock, funk & pop really. Wow am I limited!! Go for it Aydee.

Oh, on the mountain thing, please remember I live on the same mountain as the UK special forces, the legendary SAS. Feeling pretty un-threatened right now.

[SickRick]

Promises, promises... : ) ( KIS I'm coming to your mountain soon..)

New respect for Djembe technique. Garvin's a badass and you've got a great slap.

Vocals?.. strangely I've accidentally and quite happily found myself in a reggae band. Last place I'd imagined. Clueless, I'm faking it well, I'm told. Lutz was kind enough to give me some online tutorials which helped a great deal.. we might record some of it ( think Marley with a funk band )


You have to make sure to post some recordings of that Aydee. I checked all your MySpace stuff and really like your groove. So I'd really like to hear you on some One-Drop stuff with a nice layed back vibe...

Also, lets hear some quality recordings of that MCAN... that's one hell of a set you've got yourself there :)

[Thaard]

2 new tracks. I think you will like the first one "keep it simple" ;). Once again Tommy Igoe GE 2.0. Trying to play simpler and more musical.

Links.

Balad-type
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ic_49_slow_rock_-_Drums.mp3

Groove-sub.
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/id_50_groove_sub_-_Drums.mp3


Polly: The "Make it up as you go along" tune is pretty cool. Nice vocals and drums. Almost like a Beck tune or something. Gritty and clean at the same time, and nice jazzy vocals.

[Pollyanna]

New respect for Djembe technique. Garvin's a badass and you've got a great slap.

Vocals?.. strangely I've accidentally and quite happily found myself in a reggae band. Last place I'd imagined. Clueless, I'm faking it well, I'm told. Lutz was kind enough to give me some online tutorials which helped a great deal.. we might record some of it ( think Marley with a funk band )

Not sure which slap you're referring to now :) Yeah, Garvin's posted some great playing.

I can see you getting reggae down no probs. You've got the groove, as Lutz said. I'd imagine that most good funk drummers would be fine playing reggae. I don't know much reggae but Bob Marley's Exodus is probably my fave, oh and Peter Tosh's Legalise It.

I'm with KIS - reggae isn't something I do. Here's what happens when rusty oldies have a pseudo-reggae jam while the bassist is away: http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/the-reggae-sleeps-tonight.mp3

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! Doing it for a few bars is cool but keeping the groove going ....

Funnily enough, no one ever (deliberately) posts their stuff ups on the forum - maybe a thread idea? Post your monumental stuff ups! :)

Thanks Thaard. It might become our token original number, if everyone's keen to work on it. Songs that stem from jams often have a good vibe.

[aydee]

I'm with KIS - reggae isn't something I do. Here's what happens when rusty oldies have a pseudo-reggae jam while the bassist is away: http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/the-reggae-sleeps-tonight.mp3

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! Doing it for a few bars is cool but keeping the groove going ....



Nice Polly. That Lion King is grooving. Nice cross-stick too. Who screamed at the end?

Reggae! Brave, very brave. It's a feel I just can't get a grip of. I can master the mechanics but my groove is sterile. A bit like my jazz style really. Come to think of it, just about any style other than rock, funk & pop really. Wow am I limited!! Go for it Aydee.


Ya, thanks KIS its an education, getting into reggae. IMO, the similarity in reggae and funk, is fundamentally the realization that the groove isnt just coming from you. Its the 1 drop drum thing, the syncopated bass-line patterns and the guitar upstroke vamp all together creating this vibe thats kinda minimal but thick.

You have to make sure to post some recordings of that Aydee. I checked all your MySpace stuff and really like your groove. So I'd really like to hear you on some One-Drop stuff with a nice layed back vibe...

Also, lets hear some quality recordings of that MCAN... that's one hell of a set you've got yourself there :)

Thanks Lutz, glad you liked it. Looks like the reggae band is going to gig quite a bit so we'll try to get some stuff recorded but I gig with my Tama. The MCAN is like the queen that never leaves the castle ; )
...

[Pollyanna]

Nice Polly. That Lion King is grooving. Nice cross-stick too. Who screamed at the end?

Generous as always, Aydee. I added the scream to express how I felt (and it amused me) - that was right at the point where I lost the groove. After so long playing kick on one it feels weird to only play it on three. It feels like standing on one leg - easy for a short while but hard to keep it going.

Funny how our funk contingent is moving to reggae - coincidence or trend?

Ya, thanks KIS its an education, getting into reggae. IMO, the similarity in reggae and funk, is fundamentally the realization that the groove isnt just coming from you. Its the 1 drop drum thing, the syncopated bass-line patterns and the guitar upstroke vamp all together creating this vibe thats kinda minimal but thick.

I learn something new here every day - ta :)

[keep it simple]

2 new tracks. I think you will like the first one "keep it simple" ;). Once again Tommy Igoe GE 2.0. Trying to play simpler and more musical.

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I got to download the second track (the busy one) but the first just won't work. I really don't get on with your filesmelt thingy

[aydee]

at the point where I lost the groove..... it feels weird to only play it on three. It feels like standing on one leg - easy for a short while but hard to keep it going.)

Know what you mean...... maybe Lutz can do a post on how to 'think' & 'feel' reggae.

He sent me a most brilliant and most detailed PM on how to approach my 1st gig with this band on the eve of the gig. Unfortunately I needed to empty my inbox due to overstuffing so the 'baby' got thrown out with the bath water. I wish I had saved it and posted it up here.

Lots on singing with this band, Polly.. dont know when we'll get around to recording though..

but here is something that I'm supposed to lay down some drums on. Just a demo with a singer/guitar player. 29085 Currently no drums. Curious, any thoughts, anybody, on how to approach it other than ballady brushes....?

[keep it simple]

Ya, thanks KIS its an education, getting into reggae. IMO, the similarity in reggae and funk, is fundamentally the realization that the groove isnt just coming from you. Its the 1 drop drum thing, the syncopated bass-line patterns and the guitar upstroke vamp all together creating this vibe thats kinda minimal but thick.

...

Thanks for that Aydee. I completely get the mechanics and the drivers but I'm scarred by an experience some years ago. I did a rehearsal stand in for a friends reggae band many years ago. I'd not heard them previously. I turned up on the day with no expectations but they were superb. We rehearsed for about 3 hours. I thought it sounded great and the band were very complementary. The following week I decided to drop into their rehearsal to hear their own drummer. OMG! He was born to play that stuff. The difference was galactic yet he was playing almost identical sequences to me. I guess, with time, I could probably make a reasonable job of reggae as I'm totally cool with cross beats and missing out straight beat elements, but the guys who've got it, have really got "it". Good luck on your journey. P.S. where do I get to hear your stuff?

[keep it simple]

I'm with KIS - reggae isn't something I do. Here's what happens when rusty oldies have a pseudo-reggae jam while the bassist is away: http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/the-reggae-sleeps-tonight.mp3

Funnily enough, no one ever (deliberately) posts their stuff ups on the forum - maybe a thread idea? Post your monumental stuff ups! :)

.

Hey Polly.

nice vibe on the Lion King jam and yes, sweet kick placement is so key to pulling it off. Great vocal tone btw.

I love the post your monumental stuff ups suggestion!! Superb idea. The pool of potential material must be huge. Also great to see who has the balls to take part. I can imagine the "pro's" will have a problem with that (and, seriously for one moment, I can genuinely see why) but it will be interesting to see who amongst us "bottom feeders" thinks they're above making howlers! I think it could rival tom angles. Are you going to start this thread? If you don't, I will. I'm sure I can dig out some terrible recent rehearsal screw ups. In fact, I managed a huge train crash of a mistake at last nights song writing practice. I'll go find it on my handy recorder right now.

[aydee]

Thanks for that Aydee. I completely get the mechanics and the drivers but I'm scarred by an experience some years ago. I did a rehearsal stand in for a friends reggae band many years ago. I'd not heard them previously. I turned up on the day with no expectations but they were superb. We rehearsed for about 3 hours. I thought it sounded great and the band were very complementary. The following week I decided to drop into their rehearsal to hear their own drummer. OMG! He was born to play that stuff. The difference was galactic yet he was playing almost identical sequences to me. I guess, with time, I could probably make a reasonable job of reggae as I'm totally cool with cross beats and missing out straight beat elements, but the guys who've got it, have really got "it". Good luck on your journey. P.S. where do I get to hear your stuff?

Well, isn't that the very essence of music!

One can play all the notes correctly, lined up and executed to perfection and yet if the empathy or the sensitivity to the tune or the song or the genre isn't there, it seems woefully & inexplicably hollow, and if pushed, perhaps even dishonest.-the worst crime music can commit in my book..

Personally, I'm feeling a little adventerous with my musical life these days. My 'power' trio is suffering a power failure with fragile ego clashes between mr.Guitar Monster and the mr. Bass Badass, and I'm not willing to put my time on hold for these primas.
The reggae band wanted me in despite my telling them I was clueless. So I play it the way I hear it. It isn't authentic ( Lutz might be appalled ), but its sincere and works at some level. Both for the players and the listeners.

Its not what I want to do musically but in the other MJ's words, " You cant always get what you want"

But, hey you never know..; ). Thanks KIS.




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[Pollyanna]

Know what you mean...... maybe Lutz can do a post on how to 'think' & 'feel' reggae.

He sent me a most brilliant and most detailed PM on how to approach my 1st gig with this band on the eve of the gig. Unfortunately I needed to empty my inbox due to overstuffing so the 'baby' got thrown out with the bath water. I wish I had saved it and posted it up here.

Lots on singing with this band, Polly.. dont know when we'll get around to recording though..

but here is something that I'm supposed to lay down some drums on. Just a demo with a singer/guitar player. 29085 Currently no drums. Curious, any thoughts, anybody, on how to approach it other than ballady brushes....?

Ar there any gems you can remember from Lutz's email other than the linkups with bass and guitar?

Tasty demo. Should be fun. I hear a few approaches you could take:

1. Maybe look to players like Bob Disalle or Ben Bow with Bruce Cockburn? eg. in "Incandescent Blue". If you can't remember the album you'll get the idea from the Amazon song sampler:
http://www.amazon.com/Dancing-Dragons-Jaws-Bruce-Cockburn/dp/B00006LLPS

Very colourful with the toms and those subtle tasty ghosts. I wouldn't take this approach myself because I don't have the chops to keep it clean and steady. I think you'd give it a good shake though.

2. If it was me, I'd probably either go for hand drums or brushes (but not sweeping). Can you make congas go "wooo" (you know how I love to talk technical :). That would sound nice early on. Or I might leave the start drumless and come in later on. I'd even be tempted to leave it till around 3:30, or at least ramp it up around then.

What approaches have you been mulling over so far?

KIS, I'm hearing you. That would traumatise me too :) That's about as far as I can go in that style without doing somethig stupid (like mixing the kick beats and getting muddled *groan*). Yeah, Glenn's got a great voice. Funny, he's an old friend from my web design days. At the time I'd quit drums and we didn't know about each others' musical background for years. It's actually his fault that I'm to drumming. As fate would have it, he gave me the emergency callup to fill in six months after I'd sold the kit I'd kept for 8 years (sentimental) to make more space. Murphy's Law!

[Pollyanna]

I love the post your monumental stuff ups suggestion!! Superb idea. The pool of potential material must be huge. Also great to see who has the balls to take part. I can imagine the "pro's" will have a problem with that (and, seriously for one moment, I can genuinely see why) but it will be interesting to see who amongst us "bottom feeders" thinks they're above making howlers! I think it could rival tom angles. Are you going to start this thread? If you don't, I will. I'm sure I can dig out some terrible recent rehearsal screw ups. In fact, I managed a huge train crash of a mistake at last nights song writing practice. I'll go find it on my handy recorder right now.

Muuuuum, I'm scaaaared! I have a $#!^load of crap from our rehearsals. Not so much howlers as in crash-bam-tinkle ... more too loud, too soft, too fast, too slow, speeding, slowing, clumsy timing, lost grooves, missed cues etc.

My guess is that most of us will be too worried about looking stupid. I hope not, though :)

Perhaps people could post both a good and a bad take so they don't leave an indelible image of flakiness with the world?

[aydee]

I'll check out the link, thanks Polly.Hand drums is a really interesting thought! BUT Me- I'm awful with hand drums.. terrible. I start playing drums on them which then fills me with self loathing and low self esteem. Can only make congas go 'splat', I'm afraid...

Ya, this is a jazzy ballad but the guy putting the tune together is open to other interpretations as well. Could'nt think of any except the predictable brush sweeps. I just think yet another jazzy ballad isn't really what this world is craving.... I dont know..maybe I should pass on this.

[keep it simple]

but here is something that I'm supposed to lay down some drums on. Just a demo with a singer/guitar player. 29085 Currently no drums. Curious, any thoughts, anybody, on how to approach it other than ballady brushes....?

Hmmm? If it's just going to remain guitar & vocals then I think either brushy ballard or no drums at all. I'd also lose the over chorus'd guitar & replace with accoustic. The singer has a really sweet tone to her voice. The guitar wasn't very sympathetic to my ears, a bit "arty".

If the intention is to do a full job on this song, I'd go for piano chords leaving guitar to play with some flavour harmonics, fretless or double bass and some huge half time back beat style drumming! Ha, now that's what I call a production.

[Pollyanna]

I'll check out the link, thanks Polly.Hand drums is a really interesting thought! BUT Me- I'm awful with hand drums.. terrible. I start playing drums on them which then fills me with self loathing and low self esteem. Can only make congas go 'splat', I'm afraid...

Ya, this is a jazzy ballad but the guy putting the tune together is open to other interpretations as well. Could'nt think of any except the predictable brush sweeps. I just think yet another jazzy ballad isn't really what this world is craving.... I dont know..maybe I should pass on this.

No way! You're being too hard on yourself. People don't lay drums the way you do and then suck on hand drums. Never seen it.

The song's more ballad than jazzy. What about some variation on the 50 Ways approach? If you play something too "normal" then you'll miss the chance to give the song an X-factor. If you play what YOU would like to hear from the song, I expect you'll add dynamics and give it a lift that will make Miriam happy.

Failing that, you can take the time-honoured approach of noodling around on your cymbals in the intro ... pinga-da-ting pishhh! ... just make sure you supply the bucket to go along with it :)

KIS - LOL. Boston, eat yer heart out! Bring on the the massive tom lead-in - bada-loom boom boom dadum!!

[Thaard]

Just getting out some frustration..

Link: http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ie_51_slow-_Drums.mp3

[ZildjianMike]

Cool thread!

Here are some links with the bands I currently play with

Random Ninjas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc3M_WPUneU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttPyboUlAv8

Stellas Notch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04koTrYzQvo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iloHdbWwik0

Elson and the Soul Barkada

[/URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCx4SYNHQgU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCx4SYNHQgu) ( Michael Jackson Tribute, Another Part of Me)

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXqCDcdIRr8


Enjoy!!

[Fishnmusicn]

Hey I'm a little discouraged I've posted my playing twice without any comments (excluding keyboards), but I haven't given up.

Next posting will feature a keyboard synth type thing that features some keyboard leads, and something I put together all by my lonesome with guitar, keyboards and my vocals (maybe an enticement to listen to my drumming?).

The third thing will be another old worn drum thing with a singer songwriter - didn't like her music all that much but will have better sound on the drums.

Truth be told I'm definitely a better song composer and other instrumentalist than a drummer, but not too bad at drumming, just got to get current with what I've got and put it up.

Definitely decided to not give up as I get too much pleasure from drumming and the potential is still there, just got to do the work. Working on learning some songs now to play along to now (some old Motown stuff) with the edrums and then transfer it over to the acoustic set when I get the other stuff added to get it up to snuff.

My own stuff is a lot better than anything I've ever done with a band so that is probably where my strength lies. Just posting my 2 cents, ain't disappeared and don't plan to, just waiting for the right opportunity......................................

Fishnmusicn

[Thaard]

Hey I'm a little discouraged I've posted my playing twice without any comments (excluding keyboards), but I haven't given up.

Next posting will feature a keyboard synth type thing that features some keyboard leads, and something I put together all by my lonesome with guitar, keyboards and my vocals (maybe an enticement to listen to my drumming?).

The third thing will be another old worn drum thing with a singer songwriter - didn't like her music all that much but will have better sound on the drums.

Truth be told I'm definitely a better song composer and other instrumentalist than a drummer, but not too bad at drumming, just got to get current with what I've got and put it up.

Definitely decided to not give up as I get too much pleasure from drumming and the potential is still there, just got to do the work. Working on learning some songs now to play along to now (some old Motown stuff) with the edrums and then transfer it over to the acoustic set when I get the other stuff added to get it up to snuff.

My own stuff is a lot better than anything I've ever done with a band so that is probably where my strength lies. Just posting my 2 cents, ain't disappeared and don't plan to, just waiting for the right opportunity......................................

Fishnmusicn

Sorry about that man, abit hectic here at times. I'll comment your next one, I promise!

[Pollyanna]

Hey I'm a little discouraged I've posted my playing twice without any comments (excluding keyboards), but I haven't given up.

Sorry Fishin'. Actually, Lochday and KIS complimented your work earlier in this thread. I've been remiss, though, so ... about your vids on page 3:

gopro1 - Drum programming = excellent - very groovy. Organ solo is HOT! Piano refrain is lovely and bizarre - different in style but similar in attitude to the break Ringo's Instant Amnesia.

Fishing for smallmouth bass in the Schuylkill River - again, excellent programming. The drum changes are really well thought out. The style isn't for me, tho, apart from the atmospheric refains which I liked mucho.

Kayakfishing with Fishnmusicn Sept. Oct. 2008 - when the music finally started it reminded me of a jazzier version of Sky, those Francis Monkman sounds. Nice. Then it gets jazzier again. Really outstanding drum programming - even a little crush roll! The 60s style fusion bit later on was a tad dull IMO - a bit like a porno soundtrack :) [Qualifier: No, I don't watch porn!] Felt sorry for the fish :(

Talkinboutyou.mpg - organic music. You are a scary-talented guy, Fishin'! Your live drumming was, dare I say it, as tight as a fish's @r$e :) Spot on sound, taste and solidity.

I did some sequenced music back in the 80s so I know how hard it is to do what you do, so take a bow!

This is probably the best of my programmed stuff. Given your moniker and hobby, it's the maybe right time to post this song ... called Under the Sea :)

http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/Grea-14-Under_the_sea%28reprise%29.mp3

PS. Pls forgive the snare drum sound ... it was 1987!!

[Fishnmusicn]

Sorry about that man, abit hectic here at times. I'll comment your next one, I promise!

Thanks man, appreciate it!!!

[Fishnmusicn]

Sorry Fishin'. Actually, Lochday and KIS complimented your work earlier in this thread. I've been remiss, though, so ... about your vids on page 3:

gopro1 - Drum programming = excellent - very groovy. Organ solo is HOT! Piano refrain is lovely and bizarre - different in style but similar in attitude to the break Ringo's Instant Amnesia.

Fishing for smallmouth bass in the Schuylkill River - again, excellent programming. The drum changes are really well thought out. The style isn't for me, tho, apart from the atmospheric refains which I liked mucho.

Kayakfishing with Fishnmusicn Sept. Oct. 2008 - when the music finally started it reminded me of a jazzier version of Sky, those Francis Monkman sounds. Nice. Then it gets jazzier again. Really outstanding drum programming - even a little crush roll! The 60s style fusion bit later on was a tad dull IMO - a bit like a porno soundtrack :) [Qualifier: No, I don't watch porn!] Felt sorry for the fish :(

Talkinboutyou.mpg - organic music. You are a scary-talented guy, Fishin'! Your live drumming was, dare I say it, as tight as a fish's @r$e :) Spot on sound, taste and solidity.

I did some sequenced music back in the 80s so I know how hard it is to do what you do, so take a bow!

This is probably the best of my programmed stuff. Given your moniker and hobby, it's the maybe right time to post this song ... called Under the Sea :)

http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/Grea-14-Under_the_sea%28reprise%29.mp3

PS. Pls forgive the snare drum sound ... it was 1987!!

Thank you very much for taking the time Pollyanna to comment on my stuff individually, really appreciate it... Listened to Under the Sea - it does have that old school synth sound that is so hard to come by these days and I could hear the fishies swimming by as you played, especially in the beginning, nice transition coming back to the main theme, always nice to hear, very creative - along with your other bands stuff - neat songs... Off to work now but will post some more stuff tonight that I just found and will have to dig up some tapes to transfer to CD for the drum stuff. I know once I get it together, the current drumming is going to be much better... there is always a process but that's what keeps it interesting.

Fishnmusicn

[keep it simple]

Cool thread!

Here are some links with the bands I currently play with

Random Ninjas

Enjoy!!

Loved the drum battle thing. Great chops and fun at the same time!

[Pollyanna]

Thank you very much for taking the time Pollyanna to comment on my stuff individually, really appreciate it... Listened to Under the Sea - it does have that old school synth sound that is so hard to come by these days and I could hear the fishies swimming by as you played, especially in the beginning, nice transition coming back to the main theme, always nice to hear, very creative - along with your other bands stuff - neat songs... Off to work now but will post some more stuff tonight that I just found and will have to dig up some tapes to transfer to CD for the drum stuff. I know once I get it together, the current drumming is going to be much better... there is always a process but that's what keeps it interesting.

Hehehe ... the squeaky wheel get's the oil :) I enjoyed your stuff. Lots of good sounds, playing and ideas. The sequencer was an ESQ1, sadly "loaned" to a guitarist and never saw it again. Shame, it was a sweet machine. Sure, bring on the archives :)

ZildjianMike, I like all the creativity - taiko, electric violin, generally eclectic. Drums and taiko - I've never seen it. Great idea and it worked. Agree with KIS re: drum battle.

[Thaard]

Trying some new beats and stuff, also new eq on bassdrums. It's damn difficult to play 16ths with one hand.

http://filesmelt.com/downloader/if_51_fast_-_Drums.mp3

http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ig_52_slow_-_Drums.mp3

[Fishnmusicn]

Trying some new beats and stuff, also new eq on bassdrums. It's damn difficult to play 16ths with one hand.

http://filesmelt.com/downloader/if_51_fast_-_Drums.mp3

http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ig_52_slow_-_Drums.mp3

It's obvious to me when I hear your playing that you put a lot of time into it - nice loose feel, and really like the triplets and singles interjections, provides the spice from the monotony of the constant groove, and you do it well. Is that Igoe stuff? Pardon me asking but haven't checked out all his background music.

Fishnmusicn

[MasonGrimm]

Awesome idea! I know this might be kind of far left field, genre-wise, for all of you, but check out my band. We play Blackened Progressive Death metal.

http://www.myspace.com/apothys

I welcome all constructive feedback. Glowing reviews receive priority seating. ;->

~ Mace / Apothys

[Thaard]

It's obvious to me when I hear your playing that you put a lot of time into it - nice loose feel, and really like the triplets and singles interjections, provides the spice from the monotony of the constant groove, and you do it well. Is that Igoe stuff? Pardon me asking but haven't checked out all his background music.

Fishnmusicn

Thanks man, yea it's the playalong to Groove Essentials 2.0. I usually listen to the track and play through it without recording some times before I actually record. That way it fits better. I have a sort of a jazz-backround so I like to improvise and do stuff that makes it more interesting. On the bad side, this makes me more open for errors, which I'm trying to correct.

Anyway, I was thinking that maybe we should have a drummerworld drum battle. I'll make a playalong(something simple) and people get in line and record solos and playing to it. In the end it will be a track with many drummers and solo's. What do you think?

[Fishnmusicn]

Thanks man, yea it's the playalong to Groove Essentials 2.0. I usually listen to the track and play through it without recording some times before I actually record. That way it fits better. I have a sort of a jazz-backround so I like to improvise and do stuff that makes it more interesting. On the bad side, this makes me more open for errors, which I'm trying to correct.

Anyway, I was thinking that maybe we should have a drummerworld drum battle. I'll make a playalong(something simple) and people get in line and record solos and playing to it. In the end it will be a track with many drummers and solo's. What do you think?

That would be pretty cool, neat idea. I have a lot of improving to do before I'd give it a go, but it would be interesting to hear.

[Thaard]

Woah, long time since I've played brushes. It's actually fun!

Link:
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ib_76_slow_brushes_-_Drums.mp3

[alparrott]

For your perusal... five tracks I played on with my former band, Smokey the Giant, out of Monterey, CA.

http://myspace.com/smokeythegiant (http://www.myspace.com/smokeythegiant)

The first song is off their new studio EP, and features their new drummer, James Leonard. I'm on the other five tracks, which come from our first two "garage" CDs.

Enjoy! And comments are welcome.

[keep it simple]

What a shame you couldn't continue with the band Al. I like the material. Ok, the recording quality of the first track is obviously better than the rest but I think something is lost as a result. Further to that, there's something in the beat timing from the new drummer that just doesn't quite hang for me. Like a slight drag in the kick / snare relationship. It's consistent so difficult to isolate the problem.

Anyhow, I like your playing on the other tracks. Some nice cymbal chops in just the right dose. Very enjoyable. Are you playing in a band now?

[alparrott]

What a shame you couldn't continue with the band Al. I like the material. Ok, the recording quality of the first track is obviously better than the rest but I think something is lost as a result. Further to that, there's something in the beat timing from the new drummer that just doesn't quite hang for me. Like a slight drag in the kick / snare relationship. It's consistent so difficult to isolate the problem.

Anyhow, I like your playing on the other tracks. Some nice cymbal chops in just the right dose. Very enjoyable. Are you playing in a band now?

Only the praise team at the local chapel. I'm not in the States right now. Thanks for the kind words!

[Thaard]

Bleh, Idea drought. Can't come up with any good fills or grooves. Well well, a new batch of recordings.

http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ii_53_slow_-_Drums.mp3
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ih_52_fast_-_Drums.mp3

[kindbeats]

Hey guys,

Here are two clips from a show I played this past Sunday. The singer's name is Colleen Rennison, and I was given the task of forming a group for her...in about a week's time! It's only going to get tighter from here! Please let me know what you think! Thanks!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWmuIlMtMyI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvKja-8R0HM

[aydee]

Hey guys,

Here are two clips from a show I played this past Sunday. The singer's name is Colleen Rennison, and I was given the task of forming a group for her...in about a week's time! It's only going to get tighter from here! Please let me know what you think! Thanks!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWmuIlMtMyI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvKja-8R0HM

Simply fabulous! Doesn't need no ketchup or mustard..
You have a deep pocket? Sorry wrong metaphor, but you know what I mean. Really enjoyed listening to you.

[keep it simple]

Oooo! I liked that on a number of levels Kindbeats. Thought your playing on the second short video was spot on. Really close & personal with the singer (I wish). Couldn't understand the apparently disinterested audience though, I was captivated. Nice to keep some of the jamming feel as the act matures.

On a childish note, I think Gruntersdad's just found another avatar!

[SickRick]

Hey guys,

Here are two clips from a show I played this past Sunday. The singer's name is Colleen Rennison, and I was given the task of forming a group for her...in about a week's time! It's only going to get tighter from here! Please let me know what you think! Thanks!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWmuIlMtMyI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvKja-8R0HM


Awesome man! No hiccups whatsoever :)

Really liked the singer and the overall groove of the band. Also, your playing was really tastefull and forward driving - right ahead of the beat. Great.

Also: You've raised your drums comparing to the other vids and this looks much nicer.

Great!

[kindbeats]

Thanks for the kind words you guys! I really appreciate the feedback!

As for the disinterested audience, the performance was part of the NY DunkXChange, which is a shoe and sneaker convention that also features hip hop music. At the point that we played, everyone was still busy checking out the merchandise, going booth to booth.

Again, I'm glad you all enjoyed the vids!

[Rodaquino]

Here old videos practicing two noisy solos before that i buy the mics an mixer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzd9eMDs-Kk

this is maybe more "Ala"billy cobham....:P

thanks & peace for everyone!

[kindbeats]

Rodaquino,

I really wish you had a better quality recording of this because I can't really make out what's going on. Sounds like you've got some chops though!

[Thaard]

After 3 days straight with the band, making a new tune, I took some time off to record another playalong. I'm really really pleased with it and I hope to get some feedback on it.
I was playing around with a Steve Gadd licks and a Jojo Mayer lick and I finally managed to get them both in this song.

Anyways, the bands made another song called Dan Druff from Hell(or Space) and will be recording soon.

Link:
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/ik_54_slow_-_Drums.mp3

[jazzsnob]

I've been doing some videos. Haven't been posting much, so I can't remember if I've put my channel out there.


www.youtube.com/cubeball9

[Rodaquino]

Rodaquino,

I really wish you had a better quality recording of this because I can't really make out what's going on. Sounds like you've got some chops though!

thanks that was only a kind of practice,here the vids with mucha better sound...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2j4W7fBhi8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuRXDjalJZ8

http://www.myspace.com/rodrigoaquino

peace&realove!
rod.

[Thaard]

I'll try to keep the thread alive.

Heres some reggae:
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/We´re_Jammin_-_Drums.mp3

And some funky-stuff:
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/The_timekeeper_-_Drums.mp3

I actually hate playing punk, but here ya go.
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Don´t_Blink_-_Drums.mp3

And some slow jazz
http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Lets_playone_-_Drums.mp3

[Thaard]

Some "advanced funk".

http://filesmelt.com/downloader/il_54_-_fast.mp3

[Steamer]

Jared Burrows Quartet "Lunar Line"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk0dEUXS7bE&feature=player_profilepage

[pbloxam]

Here's a few links:

http://www.youtube.com/user/pbloxam

www.myspace.com/blindsociety1

http://www.myspace.com/thetrioofterror

Peace!

[Thaard]

Playing around in 5/4.

Link: http://filesmelt.com/downloader/nc_93_-_Drums.mp3

And in 7/8

Link: http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Ng_97_-_Drums.mp3

[aydee]

I hereby re-christen this thread 'The Thaard Thread'

PS_ nice 7/8 ; )

[Thaard]

I hereby re-christen this thread 'The Thaard Thread'

PS_ nice 7/8 ; )

Hehe, thanks. Maybe I should make my own thread..

[aydee]

Hehe, thanks. Maybe I should make my own thread..

Great. We'll call it " Not the 1st, or the 2nd, but the Thaard thread'!

[bobdadruma]

Here is some of mine. http://www.reverbnation.com/bluecollarproject

[kindbeats]

Steamer,

I enjoyed your vid a lot! I love me some relaxed swing! It's refreshing to hear someone just lay back and relax with the instrument.

[Steamer]

Steamer,

I enjoyed your vid a lot! I love me some relaxed swing! It's refreshing to hear someone just lay back and relax with the instrument.

Thanks! Much appreciated kindbeats:}

[Pollyanna]

Not wanting to interfere with The Thaard Thread (or was it the Fourth?) but I may as well put up this somewhat sloppy version of Little Wing we did at a gig last month because it's the only thing I have on vid.

Wanna see how old ladies play drums when they aren't talking to their cats? Here's your chance :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LK2XaUWH4Y

Hey Bob, your band is sounding smooth these days. Your singer has a great voice.

PS. Sorry Thaard, you're a talented fella but I'm on reviewer strike until you put up a band recording - or I get a pay rise :-P

[aydee]

Not wanting to interfere with The Thaard Thread (or was it the Fourth?) but I may as well put up this somewhat sloppy version of Little Wing we did at a gig last month because it's the only thing I have on vid.

Wanna see how old ladies play drums when they aren't talking to their cats? Here's your chance :)



Impressed! You have a nice Steve Jordan-esqe pocket, and you play a slow groove really well - an acid test of sorts ( IN MY BOOK ) - the fills didnt speed up too. That is a miraculous achievement for non-session players. Liked your left foot stomp too which worked really nice in the guitar solo spaces.

Kick butt, Polly. Me likeee.
ps- but guitar player seemed a little too shy for my liking : )

[Pollyanna]

Impressed! You have a nice Steve Jordan-esqe pocket, and you play a slow groove really well - an acid test of sorts ( IN MY BOOK ) - the fills didnt speed up too. That is a miraculous achievement for non-session players. Liked your left foot stomp too which worked really nice in the guitar solo spaces.

Kick butt, Polly. Me likeee.
ps- but guitar player seemed a little too shy for my liking : )

Thanks Aydee - chuffed! You like my playing more than the cat does. He runs away when I start up :)

Love playing slow. I am amazed at people who can play fast. Got a bit carried away towards the end and came *this far* from fluffing it and then had a fit of the giggles afterwards.

Yeah, apart from the singer and me the players all work in science institutions and are pretty gentle, retiring types - the guitarist especially so. Singer and I are encouraging him to not be so tentative ... maybe one day ...

[Thaard]

PS. Sorry Thaard, you're a talented fella but I'm on reviewer strike until you put up a band recording - or I get a pay rise :-P

Hehe, I see. Well, heres what we got so far. Drums with clicktrack. Theres some timing issues and stuff. Theres a slim chance we'll finish it though, since the keyboardist made it in Logic 9 and our guitarist swears and curses when he plays the unison part. Not that he's bad, but it's different playing it on a keyboard, than a guitar. Theres also part 2 of this tune, where everything is in different time sigs - 7/8 - 15/8 - 12/8.

We got a new tune coming soon though, which the whole band made, and not just me and the keyboardist. Anyway, enough chatter.

Link: http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Purified_Orange_1_drums_midi_tracks._Unmixed_1.mp3

Ps: Nice playing on that youtube vid. Reminded me of 70's stuff.

[keep it simple]

Wanna see how old ladies play drums when they aren't talking to their cats? Here's your chance :)


Hey Polly, I completely missed this. I'm still struggling with Thaard's filesmelt thing. All I get is computer garbage so I've missed out on the consolidation (sorry, Thaard) thread.

Great gig sound Polly. I agree with aydee & Thaard, very 70's and that's a good thing. Good solid timing, especially in the fills, and strong dynamics too. Of course, the result was so good because you kept it simple! Great vocalist BTW. Don't put your playing down Polly. You could have put any so called "A" list drummer up there and they wouldn't have improved the result one tiny bit. Sorry girl, you're a good drummer, get used to it!

[keep it simple]

Hehe, I see. Well, heres what we got so far. Drums with clicktrack. Theres some timing issues and stuff. .

Hi Thaard, I managed to download this one!!! I like this. Very much reminds me of early ELP. The full band version will be interesting. Funny that I like this stuff yet it's the opposite of my playing mantra. I'm not going to advise you to keep it simple as that wouldn't suit the genre but I do think your playing is much more effective when you simplify your work just a bit. It's as if some of the stuff is just 1% outside of your comfort zone. Like you've just learnt to play certain riffs so you're damn well going to use them! Don't get me wrong, I think you have a strong talent and your playing standard is high. I just can't help thinking you're pushing yourself a bit too much and you'd benefit from a period of organic growth.

[Thaard]

Hi Thaard, I managed to download this one!!! I like this. Very much reminds me of early ELP. The full band version will be interesting. Funny that I like this stuff yet it's the opposite of my playing mantra. I'm not going to advise you to keep it simple as that wouldn't suit the genre but I do think your playing is much more effective when you simplify your work just a bit. It's as if some of the stuff is just 1% outside of your comfort zone. Like you've just learnt to play certain riffs so you're damn well going to use them! Don't get me wrong, I think you have a strong talent and your playing standard is high. I just can't help thinking you're pushing yourself a bit too much and you'd benefit from a period of organic growth.

Yep, you´re absolutely right. This was some months ago and I was furious when I recorded it, because I wanted those ridiculous fills in there, so I could show how good I was. Lately I´ve rethought this and tried to make it more organic. It´s a struggle, but at least I´m working on it.
Also, I rehearsed to this tune in 140 bpm, but the keyboardist wanted it to be in 130, so thats why I´m dragging sometimes. We´ll see how it goes :).

[Steamer]

I'll add these two other recent clips of the Jared Burrows Quartet into the playing consolidation thread:

"Tango"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFyhO8POQtw&feature=player_profilepage

"Royal City Shout"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fXiDr_rujg&feature=player_profilepage

[Fishnmusicn]

Wanna see how old ladies play drums when they aren't talking to their cats? Here's your chance :)

Enjoyed your playing PollyAnna, as has already been mentioned, good dynamics and steady time and the fills were in the right places. You're definitely quite a bit better than you let on!

I just put another video up on YouTube to share, the music in the background is some keyboard tunes that I never finished but work well enough in a video.

I messed around some on the acoustic drums this past weekend and videotaped it, but until I get some decent cymbals and heads, I'll hold back from sharing just yet - I'm looking forward to putting up some new stuff. I'm going to buy a Zoom H2, figure it will be the easiest way to record myself without breaking the bank.

Hope you like the YouTube stuff, fishing is my number one passion and will never play second fiddle:0)

Fishnmusicn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLnrhdkUUNw&feature=channel

[bobdadruma]

Hey Bob, your band is sounding smooth these days. Your singer has a great voice. Thanks Polly! I love playing with Samantha!
It was good to see your vid, I liked it, and your playing. Good job cat lady!
I liked your singer also! Your right, A bit sloppy in the middle, Not your fault! You were on!
The Mini Pearl was sounding good! It's amazing what these kits can do!

[Pollyanna]

Who'd have thunk it? Stan the rockin' man! :) We already chatted about the tasty Tango. Royal City Shout is great. Loved hearing you play rude in that Elvis / Tony vein (almost Gene at times!)

It was fun to see how your pianist played with the rhythm section. He'd drop back to a few sparse notes and grin like the cat that ate the cream as the rest of you jumped into the spaces he left. Really enjoyable group playing. Your drumming was, as usual, top class.

Thanks KIS. I think I downplay because I am so hopeless when I practice by myself. I can barely play a paradiddle twice without losing the mojo. But when I'm playing with other musicians it all changes and then I can play. Guess I just like the lollies but am a real little cow when it comes to eating my drumming greens :)

Thaard baby, it looks like we're both playing 70s stuff:) I agree with KIS - kind of ELP-ish. Insane unison figures. You guys are nuts - lol

Thanks Fish. See above. More GoPro Hero Wide Kayakfishing has an especially lovely period when the strings higher at not long after a minute in. A few technical glitches in the sound beforehand tho.

Yeah Bob, the band's strings were bumbling again. They just need to realise that the lines they set themselves to play are beyond them and play less ambitiously but more accurately. In short they need to Keep it ............ :) Oh well, at least we both have good singers. And yeah, Richard the guy who was doing our sound that night told me that the RT always scrubs up well when mic'd up. I only used the kick and one tom along with my vintage snare.

[Thaard]

I should probably post this in my other thread, but I called it something else than The Thaard Thread so it doesnt fit :(. Anyway, 2 new youtube vids. And now I tried to groove as best as i could.(This is a re-recording of some of the playalongs).

Links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7esLzSvT9qU&feature=channel
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no2OrxULyaM&feature=channel

[Steamer]

Who'd have thunk it? Stan the rockin' man! :) We already chatted about the tasty Tango. Royal City Shout is great. Loved hearing you play rude in that Elvis / Tony vein (almost Gene at times!)

It was fun to see how your pianist played with the rhythm section. He'd drop back to a few sparse notes and grin like the cat that ate the cream as the rest of you jumped into the spaces he left. Really enjoyable group playing. Your drumming was, as usual, top class.




Thanks for the very kind words Polly!

Now you've seem many sides of my diverse musical personality from gentle, swinging to raw and rude.....:}

Yes these chaps are a blast to play music with...all nice folks too!

[keep it simple]

I should probably post this in my other thread, but I called it something else than The Thaard Thread so it doesnt fit :(. Anyway, 2 new youtube vids. And now I tried to groove as best as i could.(This is a re-recording of some of the playalongs).

Links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7esLzSvT9qU&feature=channel
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no2OrxULyaM&feature=channel

Love the first video. That's a lot more like it. Thaard the drummer is back!!!

[Fishnmusicn]

I shortened my YouTube video - can be compared to playing too much on the drums. Edited down to one song that fits the whole thing, with shorter scenes.

Another reason I wanted to share is because of the GoPro Hero Wide camera that I used to shoot all of the scenes except for the last - it could have some great application in recording drums vids, as it allows a huge wide angle.

In the fishing shots, the camera is less than a foot away but still brings in a panoramic view. Will be using this one for sure in addition to the regular video camera when I put some drum stuff together.

Thaard, I enjoyed your first drum video as well, good stuff.

Video re-edited:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZdrwrEKPBg

Fishnmusicn

[Pollyanna]

Thanks for the very kind words Polly!

Now you've seem many sides of my diverse musical personality from gentle, swinging to raw and rude.....:}

Yes these chaps are a blast to play music with...all nice folks too!

It's good to see all those facets, Stan. I like it when jazz transcends politeness and mixes the finesse with gusto. You guys have that down to the fine art. Your keys player seems like a character!

Thaard, back to home recordings eh? A suggestion, when you play jazz there's a sameness about your approach - spangalang, comp, fill, tish!, spangalang, comp, fill, tish!. You need to skip some crashes and save them for higher highs and also play different kinds of crashes.

Now in return for all this free advice could you kindly pass over a few of your chops please :)

[Thaard]

Hehe, Nice vid fishn. Reminds me of those traveling/vacation thingys on tv with happy music and people having fun. Kayaking looks cool too, since I've only tried canooing and so on.

Also, thanks for the feedback polly. I'll take it into consideration. I was just trying to get it to sound clean.

[Steamer]

It's good to see all those facets, Stan. I like it when jazz transcends politeness and mixes the finesse with gusto. You guys have that down to the fine art. Your keys player seems like a character!



It just part and parcel of the process of playing open and letting go, letting it "all hang out" so to speak musically speaking based on the overall group listening concept and based on a certain approach to playing the drums for me Polly.

Yes indeed our piano player Lorne is a REAL character indeed Polly :}........ great composer too!

[British Boy]

I've already posted this and it's still on the front page, but what the hell. Nothing wrong with a bit of longevity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_kjXNpEHSI

[Thaard]

I've already posted this and it's still on the front page, but what the hell. Nothing wrong with a bit of longevity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_kjXNpEHSI

Awesome man, nice and clean.

Anyway, 3 new vids.

Bassdrum-technique from hell(just kidding, it's just goofing around):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vJxicISknk

Tune in 5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdDnQb8MBTY

Jazz with brushes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbNU2TI3I8

[keep it simple]

Awesome man, nice and clean.

Anyway, 3 new vids.

Bassdrum-technique from hell(just kidding, it's just goofing around):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vJxicISknk

Tune in 5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdDnQb8MBTY

Jazz with brushes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbNU2TI3I8

I like the tune in 5. Good groove. Much better Thaarding!

[Thaard]

Ya man! Inspired by SickRick and Vinnie C on Sy Borg(on F. Zappas album Joe's Garage), I played some reggae. I don't know if you can call it real reggae, but enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3B2S-VkkJw

[Rodaquino]

This is my last video,love for everyone.
pace.
Ro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXx3u4aBgTU

[junglelord]

Here is a little diddy on my Sonor Designer Five Star Ebony Kit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1thE5PdYKTU

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8351/guitar051.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/guitar051.jpg/)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5010/guitar056.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/guitar056.jpg/)

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4362/guitar061.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/guitar061.jpg/)

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4941/guitar066.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/guitar066.jpg/)

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5761/guitar063.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/guitar063.jpg/)

[Pollyanna]

It's just part and parcel of the process of playing open and letting go, letting it "all hang out" so to speak musically speaking based on the overall group listening concept and based on a certain approach to playing the drums for me Polly.

Yes indeed our piano player Lorne is a REAL character indeed Polly :}........ great composer too!

Stan, that "certain approach" would strike me as being inspired by guys like Elvis and Tony who, to the best of my knowledge, were amongst the pioneers of modern robust jazz drumming. For me, it was as though they revived Gene's spirit and transplanted it to a bop setting, setting aside the gentility that had been dominant in the scene for a while. Not that I think there's anything wrong with gentility as long as it doesn't set polite boundaries, which might be fine when playing to a dinner crowd but without great skill and sensitivity that can be dull for a listening/drinking audience.

I like it when jazzers can combine their skills with raw spirit and that's something you do extremely well. And Lorne is great - mouth open like he's catching flies - totally into it :)

Thaard, when I talked about you needing to play different kids of crashes in jazz I didn't explain it well. The good jazz drummers see their cymbals as a number of voices, not just one - tish! At a basic level you have the glancing blow with the shaft plus striking with the tip. Then you can open the cymbal up to varying degrees depending on how hard you glance it of hit with the tip. Then there's the spot on the cymbal where you strike it. A lot of subtle variations are out there.

I'd suggest that at first you try playing with a bare minimum of crashes - only playing them when you feel you'll burst if you don't. I feel funny about giving you advice because by no means do I have your chops. Still, I have been around for a long time and kept my eyes and ears open, even if I was born an uncoordinated klutz :)

[Steamer]

Stan, that "certain approach" would strike me as being inspired by guys like Elvis and Tony who, to the best of my knowledge, were amongst the pioneers of modern robust jazz drumming. For me, it was as though they revived Gene's spirit and transplanted it to a bop setting, setting aside the gentility that had been dominant in the scene for a while. Not that I think there's anything wrong with gentility as long as it doesn't set polite boundaries, which might be fine when playing to a dinner crowd but without great skill and sensitivity that can be dull for a listening/drinking audience.

I like it when jazzers can combine their skills with raw spirit and that's something you do extremely well. And Lorne is great - mouth open like he's catching flies - totally into it :)



Bang on comments Polly..... It's certainly about loosing your inhibitions and feeling more "free" to be very expressive within the music regarding the drums and a certain frame of mind and concept that comes into play which certainly has deep roots in the drummers who came before as mentioned who weren't afraid to put the drums out further into the front of the mix with more of a raw edge and dominant approach combined with sensitive listening skills for the entire ensemble serving the greater musical package as a whole at the same time. There's a time to be polite for sure just as there is a time to totally deliver the goods to the max as a drummer for the music. I got over covering just the polite side of the mix for the music many years ago....:}

Just have to let go of the personal walls that sometimes build up to stop us from allowing us to let go, to totally go for it without fear of what may come of it at least for me. I've always been attracted to listening to very strong confident drummers in the music who take risk and surprise chances and grab the {musical} ball at the drivers seat of the drum chair in a band.

As a piano player Lorne as observed is in that same "zone" as a musician within the music.

[Pollyanna]

It's certainly about loosing your inhibitions and feeling more "free" to be very expressive within the music regarding the drums and a certain frame of mind and concept that comes into play which certainly has deep roots in the drummers who came before as mentioned who weren't afraid to put the drums out further into the front of the mix with more of a raw edge and dominant approach combined with sensitive listening skills for the entire ensemble serving the greater musical package as a whole at the same time. There's a time to be polite for sure just as there is a time to totally deliver the goods to the max as a drummer for the music. I got over covering just the polite side of the mix for the music many years ago....:}

Just have to let go of the personal walls that sometimes build up to stop us from allowing us to let go, to totally go for it without fear of what may come of it at least for me. I've always been attracted to listening to very strong confident drummers in the music who take risk and surprise chances and grab the {musical} ball at the drivers seat of the drum chair in a band.

As a piano player Lorne as observed is in that same "zone" as a musician within the music.

Stan, I think your observations can apply to all genres. They probably apply to social interaction, romance and just about anything in life - the give and take, compromising and respecting others' boundaries but not being afraid to let it all hang out when the time is right.

It applies to rock drumming too - to play backbeat or to cut loose, that is the question (Hamlet would relate). How much of "the beast" do you let out at any given time? It's rarely a back and white thing. Too much restraint or too little is often dull, but when there's a mix through having big ears and tapping into where the song wants to go then magic can happen.

I think one of the hardest things is "to put the drums out further into the front of the mix with more of a raw edge and dominant approach combined with sensitive listening skills for the entire ensemble serving the greater musical package as a whole at the same time". Collquially, it's not easy to go apes**t while keeping an eye on the music as a totality.

[Steamer]

Stan, I think your observations can apply to all genres. They probably apply to social interaction, romance and just about anything in life - the give and take, compromising and respecting others' boundaries but not being afraid to let it all hang out when the time is right.

It applies to rock drumming too - to play backbeat or to cut loose, that is the question (Hamlet would relate). How much of "the beast" do you let out at any given time? It's rarely a back and white thing. Too much restraint or too little is often dull, but when there's a mix through having big ears and tapping into where the song wants to go then magic can happen.

I think one of the hardest things is "to put the drums out further into the front of the mix with more of a raw edge and dominant approach combined with sensitive listening skills for the entire ensemble serving the greater musical package as a whole at the same time". Collquially, it's not easy to go apes**t while keeping an eye on the music as a totality.

Applies to anything or any music for sure Polly. I guess what i'm saying is to trust ones intuitive intuitions and know when to "let it go", unleash "the beast" as you call it to take some chances to set a fire following the path the music wishes to go BUT also being fully "aware" of everything else going on around you to shape the musical picture on the canvass to fit the entire context as a whole in a ensemble setting by letting your ears stay focused on the bigger picture. Knowing how to walk the tightrope of the give and take involved in making dynamic, interesting music with other people. Knowing when to hold back and sit on it too for a while letting it build before giving it all away is another important quality to develope in the musical mix. Trust in musical relationships is no different than other personal relationship you can have with others. This just comes with getting more and more experience playing with other musicians till you find that "magic" balance of elements you just know fits just right when you hear it {intuitive} that happens in ensemble playing whatever the genre of music.

The trick too is to stop over thinking to much well playing and let the music organically get you in the "zone" where the music flows along in a more natural unforced state with all its many twist and turns along the way. Its knowing by intuition when to give it that extra push or when to lay back as a drummer to hit the "sweet spot" that keeps the listeners attention focused on the music. Here's where there is no shortcut to gained experience regardless of choice of music performed with others.


Life long process....... that's why I never get bored playing music since your playing can always evolve to a higher state the more you get in tune with yourself and with others in the process of playing ensemble music.

[Thaard]

Thaard, when I talked about you needing to play different kids of crashes in jazz I didn't explain it well. The good jazz drummers see their cymbals as a number of voices, not just one - tish! At a basic level you have the glancing blow with the shaft plus striking with the tip. Then you can open the cymbal up to varying degrees depending on how hard you glance it of hit with the tip. Then there's the spot on the cymbal where you strike it. A lot of subtle variations are out there.


Now this is why I post these videos! Anyway, I see where you're getting at, problem is that my main ride is a aax ride which is very heavy, so It's kinda hard to crash(not a good excuse though). Next time I'll try to vary..
I learned how to play jazz by playing with my musical teacher(in a sort of boarding school), since I was bored of waiting for the guitarists to learn Rocking in the free world, so It's sort of "Play spangalang and comp 'til you drop". It's alot easier to play with people than playalongs though, since you've got the irregularitys and the communcation between musicians.. But I digress.

I'll look at some youtube videos at some good jazz-drummers and try to get the gist of it.

[aydee]

I learned how to play jazz by playing with my musical teacher(in a sort of boarding school), since I was bored


You got bored at a boarding school! I love it!

Thaard, my man. you've got to play with people, youre a good player & you should now be in a good band,..

It is time, me lad.

[Pollyanna]

Thaard, you'll find some examples of fine jazz drumming from our very own Stan's vids posted on this page. Since the camera shots are pretty wide you can see what he's doing pretty clearly most of the time too. Sophisticated jazz is another world to me.

One thing you could try is taking away some of your cymbals and drums so you only have a basic four-piece plus ride and a crash. Just for a while. That will force you to make more of your pieces. Having a ride that doesn't want to open up makes it harder but you might like to experiment and see how many good sounds you can get from it. My fave cymbals are those capable of a few good sounds. One sound per cymbal means a lot of lugging and setting up. I love my 17" no name crash-ride for that reason. I could play a whole gig with it as my only cymbal (plus hats) and it would be fine.

Don't forget to extract more than one crash out of the crash you choose in the abbreviated setup ... you can whack it, glance it - strong or soft - you can hit it with the stick tip and or glance closer to the bell (but not so close that the cymbal doesn't open up).

[Thaard]

You got bored at a boarding school! I love it!

Thaard, my man. you've got to play with people, youre a good player & you should now be in a good band,..

It is time, me lad.

I actually got a band aydee, didnt you see what i pasted some posts ago? Anyway, we're gonna record our new tune around christmas, cause of the vacation. Problem is that the guitarist lives 1-2 hours away by car, and the keyboardist sometimes works at ungodly hours, so we set off 3 days where we all can play.

[Pollyanna]

The trick too is to stop over thinking to much well playing and let the music organically get you in the "zone" where the music flows along in a more natural unforced state with all its many twist and turns along the way. Its knowing by intuition when to give it that extra push or when to lay back as a drummer to hit the "sweet spot" that keeps the listeners attention focused on the music. Here's where there is no shortcut to gained experience regardless of choice of music performed with others.

Life long process....... that's why I never get bored playing music since your playing can always evolve to a higher state the more you get in tune with yourself and with others in the process of playing ensemble music.

How true. There's always another project. Yes, finding that zone above the chatter of a busy mind is an issue I have.

[aydee]

I actually got a band aydee, didnt you see what i pasted some posts ago? an play.

I'm sorry, I must have missed it. You know what I trying to say though, I hope..

[Thaard]

I'm sorry, I must have missed it. You know what I trying to say though, I hope..

Yea, ofcourse :). I could probably try to play in more bands, but there arent many around, and most of them are crappy metal/rockbands so. Anyway, I'm taking a video/recording vacation now the next tree days, so there won't be any more videos until monday(and there was much rejoice!). Idea drought and so on.

[Rodaquino]

Here is a little diddy on my Sonor Designer Five Star Ebony Kit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1thE5PdYKTU

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8351/guitar051.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/guitar051.jpg/)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5010/guitar056.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/guitar056.jpg/)

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4362/guitar061.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/guitar061.jpg/)

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4941/guitar066.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/guitar066.jpg/)

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5761/guitar063.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/guitar063.jpg/)

What a lovely Drums!!!!my god!,really wonderful!!!

[Thaard]

Well, I'm back from my hiatus of 2 days. 3 new vids.

Advanced funk(?):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVz9xOco8qo

Punk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ4GyTl9nDo

And slow-jazz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjV0O1whxLQ

Enjoy!

[keep it simple]

Love the funk one Thaardy boy. The punk isn't punk. Far too complicated for punk. More of a rock track but liked your playing on it.

[Thaard]

Who ya gonna call? Thaard-spammers, didu dideeu! I'm addicted!

Slow rock ballad thingy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk-wktRl4fs

Some minor shuffling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZmMg6KCqxo&feature=channel

Fast shazz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOHk3ZC7KpU&feature=channel

[Evil Six]

Some pretty amazing playing on these threads guys. Guess im goin to take a deep breath and fire up my first recording in a few years, i went off drumming for some time but have recently started to pick it up again. Please be gentle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIWT0Wua7Ec

Edit: This is sound only until i get a decent camera to record video!

[Pollyanna]

Love the funk one Thaardy boy. The punk isn't punk. Far too complicated for punk. More of a rock track but liked your playing on it.

I've stopped listening because there are only so many playalongs one can go through. But I always felt that punk was a bit like jazz in that it tends to be best when it's authentic and played by someone immersed in that culture (as per Simon Phillips jazz thread).

Now old Thaardy - drumalong king and talented artist - you are obviously a civilised and laid back kinda guy . You're not a punk (you'll probably tell me to f off now :). I gave in because I was curious to see how a funkin', jazzin' kinda guy like you would sound playing punk. Even the idea of a punk drumalong weirds me out - lol. Punks practice to regular CDs, don't they? I didn't think punks are supposed to be bourgeois enough to afford purpose-built drumalongs unless they're Paul Cook, Rat Sacabies or Travis Barker. Or is that being too purist?

So what did I hear? Thaard playing rock drums. As always nice technique - relaxed, smooth touch, good timing, clean, classy. Everything that punk isn't supposed to be :)

[Thaard]

I've stopped listening because there are only so many playalongs one can go through. But I always felt that punk was a bit like jazz in that it tends to be best when it's authentic and played by someone immersed in that culture (as per Simon Phillips jazz thread).

Now old Thaardy - drumalong king and talented artist - you are obviously a civilised and laid back kinda guy . You're not a punk (you'll probably tell me to f off now :). I gave in because I was curious to see how a funkin', jazzin' kinda guy like you would sound playing punk. Even the idea of a punk drumalong weirds me out - lol. Punks practice to regular CDs, don't they? I didn't think punks are supposed to be bourgeois enough to afford purpose-built drumalongs unless they're Paul Cook, Rat Sacabies or Travis Barker. Or is that being too purist?

So what did I hear? Thaard playing rock drums. As always nice technique - relaxed, smooth touch, good timing, clean, classy. Everything that punk isn't supposed to be :)

You nailed it, I was playing rock-beats at a fast tempo. Some years ago I heard the Sex Pistols with god save the queen(the studio album) and I was amazed on how clean it sounded. I saw a concert from them too, and it was the most huddled together, noisiest and out of time concert I've ever seen. People were spitting in others mouth's for godsakes!

If you see todays post-punk ala Green Day and Blink 182, It's mostly like this rock/punk-hybrid with clean vocals, 3 chords and fast rock-beats, which is kinda the feel I wanted to give this playalong.

By the way, some of the fills in there were actually inspired by your playing Poly(sort of). Those 70's rock fills pack a good punch!

Also, I was a punk/metall-dude when I was younger(I'm 23), but I grew out of it. I used to listen to Slayer, Pantera, Iron Maiden and many other bands of that genre. It all changed when I heard jazz. From bolts and metal, to sizzling rides and upright bass.

[Pollyanna]

You nailed it, I was playing rock-beats at a fast tempo. Some years ago I heard the Sex Pistols with god save the queen(the studio album) and I was amazed on how clean it sounded. I saw a concert from them too, and it was the most huddled together, noisiest and out of time concert I've ever seen. People were spitting in others mouth's for godsakes!

If you see todays post-punk ala Green Day and Blink 182, It's mostly like this rock/punk-hybrid with clean vocals, 3 chords and fast rock-beats, which is kinda the feel I wanted to give this playalong.

By the way, some of the fills in there were actually inspired by your playing Poly(sort of). Those 70's rock fills pack a good punch!

Also, I was a punk/metall-dude when I was younger(I'm 23), but I grew out of it. I used to listen to Slayer, Pantera, Iron Maiden and many other bands of that genre. It all changed when I heard jazz. From bolts and metal, to sizzling rides and upright bass.

LOL - shocked that anyone would play something inspired by me. The scary thing is that never for a moment did I think of my playing on that song as 70ish - I was just playing what I thought would sound best. It makes me feel old!

Come to think of it, in the 80s our manager was always hassling us to play in a more modern way (for back then) so we were already stuck even then. When we started a new band we finally got with the 80s:

http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/7-Deadly-Sins--Heart-on-fire.mp3

But I never related to it. I found the power and precision of 80s drumming plus the lack of improv a struggle. It was always a struggle for control, especially tempo. I couldn't relate to punk either. Such a dinosaur: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXHGyQgOkbs :)

As for the Pistols, there's always been talk that Malcolm Maclaren got better musos to play on the album. They have really kicked on as musicians since then but back when the album was recorded ...

[keep it simple]

Some pretty amazing playing on these threads guys. Guess im goin to take a deep breath and fire up my first recording in a few years, i went off drumming for some time but have recently started to pick it up again. Please be gentle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIWT0Wua7Ec

Edit: This is sound only until i get a decent camera to record video!

Nice skills and great feel on the hat to tom parts. Keep blowing the rust away and nail that kick timing. Welcome back. I took a 20 year break so I have some idea of what you're going through. Good luck!

[Thaard]

Hey crew, I'm back from 2 gruelling days of recording drums for my band Syncosis.
The track is called Dan Druff from hell(or outer Space?). It's just a clicktrack and missing soloes, but you get the general idea. I'm pretty stoked, since I was going crazy with getting the tom groove at the start to be in time, and I'm satisfied with the result. Drums are abit loud or drowned, mixing is non existant and theres some bassdrum misses I will correct later. I don't really know what genre it is. Prog/synth/rock something..

Link: http://filesmelt.com/downloader/Knekberod.mp3

If someone has problems downloading, just say it and I'll send you one throuhg PM [Seems like Pm is angry, so I will be sending them in your mail instead]

[keep it simple]

If someone has problems downloading, just say it and I'll send you one throuhg PM.

aaarrgghhh, filesmelt! Send me the PM Thaardyboy.

Ok, now I got it. Love it, love all of it except the tom routine at the start. I understand the difficulty in getting the timing just right with the sequencer. Just a little bit of drift in that section. Problem is with sequencers, just a tiny drift really shows & screws the groove up. Personally, I'd get rid of the sequencer and get the key player to do it manually so you can feel the groove together. I really like your beat work in the synth solo pattern repeat section. You play almost the same groove through the section. To increase impact, I'd be tempted to break from the busy groove part way through and go into a few bars of solid simple 4/4 rock groove letting the beat flow over the odd meter ending and resolving itself into the first bar of the next section. Ok, that got complicated but I hope you get my point. I like it when a tuned instrument plays an odd time signature over a chunky 4/4 groove allowing a natural resolve. Adds drama. Overall, great stuff.

[Thaard]

aaarrgghhh, filesmelt! Send me the PM Thaardyboy.

Ok, now I got it. Love it, love all of it except the tom routine at the start. I understand the difficulty in getting the timing just right with the sequencer. Just a little bit of drift in that section. Problem is with sequencers, just a tiny drift really shows & screws the groove up. Personally, I'd get rid of the sequencer and get the key player to do it manually so you can feel the groove together. I really like your beat work in the synth solo pattern repeat section. You play almost the same groove through the section. To increase impact, I'd be tempted to break from the busy groove part way through and go into a few bars of solid simple 4/4 rock groove letting the beat flow over the odd meter ending and resolving itself into the first bar of the next section. Ok, that got complicated but I hope you get my point. I like it when a tuned instrument plays an odd time signature over a chunky 4/4 groove allowing a natural resolve. Adds drama. Overall, great stuff.

Thanks, the thing is, the tom-tom beat is supposed to fade in, so it will sound much better, and it wont be so dominating. Sort of a rythmic effect in the background untill the synth starts and i start using the snare. Thanks for the feedback. I'll talk to the keyboardist and talk to him about the sequencer.

If you wondered what the voices were saying, they said: "ehh, do you want som Flassotto(it's an imaginary dish made up of dandruff)." "Blech, no! I hate it. DAMNIT!"

[Pollyanna]

Thaard, FileSmelt gave me:

A Database Error Occurred

Unable to connect to your database server using the provided settings.

[Thaard]

Thaard, FileSmelt gave me:

A Database Error Occurred

Unable to connect to your database server using the provided settings.


Thats weird, it works for me :S

Heres a new link: http://uploading.com/files/9746m183/Knekberod.mp3/
Click download for free.

[Thaard]

Awhile since I've recorded any playalongs, since I've been recording with my band.

Heres a link to the clicktrack, now with corrected drums.
Link: http://www.2shared.com/file/8902340/f32b935e/Dan_druff_v2_.html
(click the "Save file to your PC" button).

Heres a new playalong vid. Abit of chopsy funk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPGFQRq_zMo

[Thaard]

Well, I'm reviving this thread with a tune my bands keyboardist made for his music exam. I'm just practicing to it at the moment, but I'm pretty pleased with the playing so far. Sort of smooth jazz mixed with fusion - latino and reggae-rythms and a weird intro(sounds like something George Romero would use). Theres alot of changes, but the keyboardist wanted it this way. Can't wait to play it live! Some timing issues with piano, and the drums.

Anyway link: http://www.2shared.com/file/9077511/f9505d61/Peder-spesial.html

[Pollyanna]

Thaard baby, you can play, no doubt, but you stall have an air of sounding like a rock drummer dabbling in jazz but trying to cover your rock roots. Your toms have a rocky sound or maybe it's just the volume. Same with your kick.

Or alternatively, if the track had tougher sounding instruments (like, say, mid period RTF), that would be pretty impressive. You have enough chops to open a butchery.

Can you tell me why my drumming to Little Wing sounds 70s to you now? lol

[Thaard]

Thaard baby, you can play, no doubt, but you stall have an air of sounding like a rock drummer dabbling in jazz but trying to cover your rock roots. Your toms have a rocky sound or maybe it's just the volume. Same with your kick.

Or alternatively, if the track had tougher sounding instruments (like, say, mid period RTF), that would be pretty impressive. You have enough chops to open a butchery.

Can you tell me why my drumming to Little Wing sounds 70s to you now? lol

It's not the finished product and it isnt mixed, but I get what you're saying. The intro fill will not be as heavy. It´s meant to be kind of fusion´ish so.

Anyway, It's your fills mainly that sound 70'ish. It's the Ian Paice, Nick Mason fills that was steadily used back then. Start on the tom - snare and rolling over to the crash. The way you play the groove has this old school R'n'b - soul type rockdrumming which also was used back then, since everyone was trying to reinvent theirselves. Not that theres anything wrong with it.

[Pollyanna]

It's not the finished product and it isnt mixed, but I get what you're saying. The intro fill will not be as heavy. It´s meant to be kind of fusion´ish so.

Anyway, It's your fills mainly that sound 70'ish. It's the Ian Paice, Nick Mason fills that was steadily used back then. Start on the tom - snare and rolling over to the crash. The way you play the groove has this old school R'n'b - soul type rockdrumming which also was used back then, since everyone was trying to reinvent theirselves. Not that theres anything wrong with it.

Yeah, I can see you shooting for the fusion thing and you're very close to my ear. Just some detail work. Fusion is a tough style and you certainly have good skills. The challenge with fusion as I see it is infusing personality into the music.

Interesting re: the 70s. Little Wing is the only song in our set that I play like that (except maybe My Baby Just Cares ...). Most of what the band plays is not fills kinda music. I just mix the beat around a bit as the songs dictate. I used to miss playing fills earlier on but I'm now happy to have more variations between songs rather than within them. It might be age :)

[Thaard]

Yeah, I can see you shooting for the fusion thing and you're very close to my ear. Just some detail work. Fusion is a tough style and you certainly have good skills. The challenge with fusion as I see it is infusing personality into the music.

Interesting re: the 70s. Little Wing is the only song in our set that I play like that (except maybe My Baby Just Cares ...). Most of what the band plays is not fills kinda music. I just mix the beat around a bit as the songs dictate. I used to miss playing fills earlier on but I'm now happy to have more variations between songs rather than within them. It might be age :)

Of course. It´s good that at least someone still play this way, or else it would be a boring world. Someone plays like this, someone plays like that. If people keep looking back, they will discover things that may have been forgotten and find something of themselves from that period of time. I hear it all the time when younger people complain that they were born in the wrong millennia. I definitely hope that 70´s type music doesn't fade away.

[Thaard]

Keeping this thread alive. Heres some heavy-metall/hard rock with drumpedal cam. It was a request from some chick on youtube. So here 'tis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7387-ciRd8

[Witterings]

Heres' s project I did about 3 1/2 yrs ago to try and aise some money for the school my kids were at, thank goodness I've 3 1/2 yrs practice since then for my drumming to improve !!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-4vEL3dBew

On the homepgae here there's also another original song recorded at the same time

http://www.myspace.com/nevilleprice

[Sardaukar]

http://www.youtube.com/user/erikeepper

Here's my youtube channel with my newest video of a Peter Erskine solo. My most viewed (and the best I guess..) video's (PT - Blackest Eyes cover) audio has been disabled but check out the description if you still want to see it. Cheers.

[lochday]

Fresh "free" amusement from last sunday, here :

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/patrick.lecordier/drumnews.htm

[Steamer]

Fresh "free" amusement from last sunday, here :

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/patrick.lecordier/drumnews.htm


That was fun lochday............:}

Good stuff!

[SickRick]

New stuff from Dreadnut Inc. from a recent rehearsal. Sorry for the crappy video quality.

Also, not the best camera angle if your interested in the drumming :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwhYFK5zZbg

[Pollyanna]

New stuff from Dreadnut Inc. from a recent rehearsal. Sorry for the crappy video quality.

Also, not the best camera angle if your interested in the drumming :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwhYFK5zZbg

Hey Lutz, you forgot a letter in your Username - you forgot the "L" ;-)

So smooth, stylish and well-executed. I'm not big on reggae but that was classy. A well-written song with a great instrumental bridge, pleasing harmonies, and your drumming was fabulous.

[SickRick]

Hey Lutz, you forgot a letter in your Username - you forgot the "L" ;-)

So smooth, stylish and well-executed. I'm not big on reggae but that was classy. A well-written song with a great instrumental bridge, pleasing harmonies, and your drumming was fabulous.

Polly, I didn't realize yet how many possible variation my username offers. :) My original name was StickTrick but after some forum turbulences many years back I lost two "t"s.

But thank you very much for the compliment and for the "L".

[Pollyanna]

Heh, sure beats the P, eh? :)

How's Dreadnut Inc going these days? Looking at your various clips it looks like you guys are getting pretty big.

[DrumEatDrum]

After years of being in guitar heavy bands, I had the urge to do something a bit different; where I could explore some different grooves and get away from bashing the drums. And as much I love prog and metal, I also really like bands like Clan of Xymox and Switchblade Symphony. So I was able to team up with some friends and record an album of original music. And to take advantage of improved technology, I made videos to promote the album.

Our 1st single is “Ocean Deep”. I had the pattern of the hi-hat dancing over a straight kick drum in my head for years, but never had a song to use it in. Right before I recorded the final tracks, the singer said “hey, can you, like, hit more stuff?” Whaa…? A singer who wants me to play more? I’m not used to that! So I added a left side floor tom hit (ala Larry Mullen Jr) and then a cymbal stack (ala Terry Bozzio via Mike Portnoy) to the groove. The double bass roll is programmed, as a nod to the first Clan of Xymox album, and just because it fit the mood of the song, but the drum track is actually all one take with no over dubs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwddaJ8Uk4g


The 2nd video is “Wicked”. When the other two first played me this idea, I said we had to do it; it was so unusual, and I knew it would force me to play in a way I hadn’t before. The basic beat is just a few notes, which was difficult at first because it was so sparse, slow and plodding. I refer to the drum track as “Steward Copeland goes on an acid trip and pretends he meets Gene Krupa” with drum fills that sound like the drum kit is being thrown down the stairs. Although I was never in a marching band, I do enjoy a good march, and it worked for the guitar solo section. While the kick drum is a huge processed sound, and I went for a 1940’s tom sound, high and ringy, which is different than the rest of the album. I also played the lead guitar on this song as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY17FnDrhBw



“Her Void” is all different footage than the previous two videos. There is nothing much special about this drum track, as it’s pretty much straight forwards bashing, although I was able to work in a cool fill in the middle, and tribal type thing in the bridge. The one interesting aspect as a drummer was what to do about the chorus: eighth notes on the ride seemed to take up too much space and not let the song breathe, while quarter notes left too much space. I experimented with different patterns, but decided to go in a different direction. I pulled up some industrial sounds on my Roland kit, and played a simple part, looped it, and the mix of loop and quarter notes on the ride gave the chorus the perfect amount of space and density. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aol9EMMlTvk

More recently, I've been going back to my prog-metal roots, and trying my hand at writing my own songs, featuring more odd times, and chops type stuff, and me on multiple instruments.
There are two examples on my myspace music page:
http://www.myspace.com/drumeatdrummusic

[Pollyanna]

Hey, this thread has really sprung to life! Thaard, your persistence and loving care is paying off :) That's two soulful postings in a row that deserve their own threads.

DrumEatDrum, I love your music for different reasons to why I love Lutz's work.

The loose indie feel really works with these songs, with their ethereal A Forest mood. Really enjoy your imagination. Your vocalist reminds me of a singer I played with in the early 80s with that gothic Nina Hagen shtick. I like crazy female singers.

One time this old band found ourselves playing at a very polite middle-class party. Our singer was all black, black makeup, black clothes, and black rubber snakes entangled in her black hair. During Cold Turkey she kind of freaked out because the snoots were too straight for her and she took her usual orgasmic death-of-the universe screaming in Cold Turkey to another level. She scared the daylights out of the crowd. She scared me too lol

This version was mild by comparison: http://www.sangrea.net/rijidij/mp3/so_be_it-cold_turkey.mp3

It's a looong way from the music of my current band: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55567

I relate to what you said about Wicked. When you play those slow, simple ostinatos for a long time the pressure builds up like crazy until you feel like you could burst - and then finally BANG! you're free! Too much fun :)

[keep it simple]

New stuff from Dreadnut Inc. from a recent rehearsal. Sorry for the crappy video quality.

Also, not the best camera angle if your interested in the drumming :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwhYFK5zZbg
Hey SR, great invisible drummer. Lovely, almost subversive fill at 2:40 and super tasty flam start fill at 3:07. Overall I loved the song, the vocal, the vibe and probably the most attractive drumming of this genre I've heard in a long time. A superb masterclass in reserve & interpretation. Truly fabulous!

[keep it simple]

Keeping this thread alive. Heres some heavy-metall/hard rock with drumpedal cam. It was a request from some chick on youtube. So here 'tis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7387-ciRd8
Anything for a chick hey Thaardy boy!!! I really liked that. Good control and fill flavours. Moved along really well.

[keep it simple]

After years of being in guitar heavy bands, I had the urge to do something a bit different; where I could explore some different grooves and get away from bashing the drums. And as much I love prog and metal, I also really like bands like Clan of Xymox and Switchblade Symphony. So I was able to team up with some friends and record an album of original music. And to take advantage of improved technology, I made videos to promote the album.

Our 1st single is “Ocean Deep”. [/url] Love this track! Way off my genre but superbly performed. Great simplistic parts weave together really well. You should be very proud of this.

[Thaard]

Anything for a chick hey Thaardy boy!!! I really liked that. Good control and fill flavours. Moved along really well.

Thanks! I'm wondering if I should put a warning for epileptic people, since the footage is flickering when I hit the bass drum. I don't really know why.

[Pollyanna]

Nice playing as usual, Thaard. I agree with KIS's comments. It sounds pretty Crimsoneque.

Did you notice that sometimes during your fills you don't play kick?

[Thaard]

Nice playing as usual, Thaard. I agree with KIS's comments. It sounds pretty Crimsoneque.

Did you notice that sometimes during your fills you don't play kick?

I think theres some problem with the sound, because there was something weird with the driver for the soundcard I´m using. Presonus just released some new drivers, so I hope those problems wont occur again. You have to turn the bass up to hear it, probably some bad mixing too.

[DrumEatDrum]

Love this track! Way off my genre but superbly performed. Great simplistic parts weave together really well. You should be very proud of this.

Thank you. I really Am.

It really has the perfect mix of busy and simple; as it's danceable and has plenty of room between notes, even though there is actually a lot going on.

Glad you (and Polly) enjoyed it.

[DrumEatDrum]

Keeping this thread alive. Heres some heavy-metall/hard rock with drumpedal cam. It was a request from some chick on youtube. So here 'tis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7387-ciRd8

I'm jealous of your ability to play super quick doubles with one foot.

My right ankle was injured some years back, and while it doesn't affect my ability to play most things on drums, it has left me without the ability the play anywhere near that fast with my right foot.

[Ogg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yY4zsDhqgQ

First ever attempt at sharing a video clip of my playing, just jamming a simple pattern, alt/heavy rock. Apologies for the lack of audio and visual quality. I know it's below the high standard on display here but it's all about getting off on playing for me. Thank you for your time.

[keep it simple]

Thank you. I really Am.

It really has the perfect mix of busy and simple; as it's danceable and has plenty of room between notes, even though there is actually a lot going on.

Glad you (and Polly) enjoyed it. I get the busy bits. I hope you didn't get the wrong impression when I used the term "simplistic" The whole number was delivered beautifully. It gives the impression of simple even though there's more going on than's apparent on the surface. That's the very definition of a superb bit of band playing. Great stuff!!

[keep it simple]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yY4zsDhqgQ

First ever attempt at sharing a video clip of my playing, just jamming a simple pattern, alt/heavy rock. Apologies for the lack of audio and visual quality. I know it's below the high standard on display here but it's all about getting off on playing for me. Thank you for your time.Oggy, oggy, oggy----oy, oy, oy. I like the playing but the audio quality is a bit on the poor side. What I really love is this is the first video on the forum performed entirely by a pair of sticks on their own!!! No drummer whatsoever. I've come to the conclusion that the kit's set up very high or you're 2 foot tall.

[DrumEatDrum]

I get the busy bits. I hope you didn't get the wrong impression when I used the term "simplistic" The whole number was delivered beautifully. It gives the impression of simple even though there's more going on than's apparent on the surface. That's the very definition of a superb bit of band playing. Great stuff!!

Oh no, not at all. I take the view of the song always comes first. As I mentioned, my part was actually going to be more simple on "The Ocean Deep" until the singer asked me "to hit more stuff" LOL.
I'd much prefer a song grooves well then having an impressive drum fill.

Although I am working on material now that is far more odd time oriented, with even a few spots of soloing over a vamp worked into the arrangements, just to show the "other side" of my playing. Perhaps one day it will find it's way to Youtube.

[aydee]

Dreadnut time you make me feel so fine
you keep me rocking alla da time,

Monkey pack him rizla pon the sweet dep line.
Dreadnut time, you give me whole heap of zing,
Whole heap of zing mek me do me own thing.

Yay, Dreadnut. Jah maan!

PS- Lutz, is that the new kit? Sounds great even on youtube. And hey, our new saxman, Rainer Pusch is from Mannhiem.

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[Pollyanna]

Haha - I have that damn Dreadnut song stuck in my head now - Siiinging sweet songs ... of your bodybodybody

ay ay ay!

[Ogg]

Oggy, oggy, oggy----oy, oy, oy. I like the playing but the audio quality is a bit on the poor side. What I really love is this is the first video on the forum performed entirely by a pair of sticks on their own!!! No drummer whatsoever. I've come to the conclusion that the kit's set up very high or you're 2 foot tall.

Thanks mate, a very wet postman (damn English weather) now smiling upon his return home from work. I can assure you that I'm 5'9 and the kit isn't set up high either, admittedly I like to sit low but it's the camera angle I can assure you...still chuckling.
I'm just appreciative of the you taking the time to comment and for liking my playing.

ps: I am not a midget!

For the record http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GczEbhcmZ1c although it's not much of an improvment I grant you :)

[Thaard]

Keeping this thread alive yet again with two new playalong vids. First one I tried to get as groove as possible, and I learned some half-time'ish shuffle, so I thought I'd try it. I'm pretty pleased with how it sounded. The other one is just latino and chops. Oh, and ignore the fish-mouth. I dont know why I did that..

half-time groove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axdw6k3Mv44

Latino(ish):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLLeT19Ymdo

[lochday]

Keeping this thread alive yet again with two new playalong vids. First one I tried to get as groove as possible, and I learned some half-time'ish shuffle, so I thought I'd try it. I'm pretty pleased with how it sounded. The other one is just latino and chops. Oh, and ignore the fish-mouth. I dont know why I did that..

half-time groove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axdw6k3Mv44

Latino(ish):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLLeT19Ymdo

Nice drumming. I especially liked the latinoish stuff but the half time is good too. Go figure...

[Thaard]

Nice drumming. I especially liked the latinoish stuff but the half time is good too. Go figure...

Thanks. The latino one was more goofing around than the shuffle.

[aydee]

Yo Fourth.. very nice shuffle!

very slinky feel/fills and ghost notes..what a shuffle should be. I'd try and slide a little further back on the beat if I was you and if I was to do it again, but thats just a personal thing.

kickbutt playing.. ( havent checked out the latin stuff.will come back for it )

PS- Alright, i loved the latin vid! Super playing, very controlled and great chops! I'd add more dynamics and play with a little more 'latin passion' but thats me just wondering how to improve on what you already got.

Good stuff, laddie.