The playing consolidation thread

[Thaard]

Yo Fourth.. very nice shuffle!

very slinky feel/fills and ghost notes..what a shuffle should be. I'd try and slide a little further back on the beat if I was you and if I was to do it again, but thats just a personal thing.

kickbutt playing.. ( havent checked out the latin stuff.will come back for it )

PS- Alright, i loved the latin vid! Super playing, very controlled and great chops! I'd add more dynamics and play with a little more 'latin passion' but thats me just wondering how to improve on what you already got.

Good stuff, laddie.

Thanks ay! It's true about the shuffle. It was quite difficult to get behind the beat. I'm abit of an aggressive player, so it was a big step. The latin thing was just abit of goofing, but I'm looking to play more flams and stuff, so it will get that extra latino-feel. Thanks again for the kind words :)!

[Fishnmusicn]

Keeping this thread alive yet again with two new playalong vids. First one I tried to get as groove as possible, and I learned some half-time'ish shuffle, so I thought I'd try it. I'm pretty pleased with how it sounded. The other one is just latino and chops. Oh, and ignore the fish-mouth. I dont know why I did that..

half-time groove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axdw6k3Mv44

Latino(ish):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLLeT19Ymdo

I really liked that shuffle you played, very nice control. Got a question for you - it looks like you have curtains in the background - do you use those for soundproofing? I've got my drums in the bedroom and I'm trying to get some ideas for bringing down the sound so it won't be so loud outside for the neighbors. Nice job!

Fishnmusicn

[Pollyanna]

Thaardorama, you're a beast but I'd love to see you crank up your snare tuning a tad more. Any more band recordings?

Nice to see you slowly revealing yourself clip by clip. The mystery foot cam sneaker man shows his face! Given that you're the leader of the Drummer With Glasses group I was shocked to see you apparently letting the team down and flying blind in the Latino clip :-P

[Thaard]

I really liked that shuffle you played, very nice control. Got a question for you - it looks like you have curtains in the background - do you use those for soundproofing? I've got my drums in the bedroom and I'm trying to get some ideas for bringing down the sound so it won't be so loud outside for the neighbors. Nice job!

Fishnmusicn

The curtains are for sound-dampening(high frequency), theres also a outer layer Glava(the stuff you put in walls to prevent heat from escaping) for low frequencies. It´s a pretty cheap alternative.


Thaardorama, you're a beast but I'd love to see you crank up your snare tuning a tad more. Any more band recordings?

Nice to see you slowly revealing yourself clip by clip. The mystery foot cam sneaker man shows his face! Given that you're the leader of the Drummer With Glasses group I was shocked to see you apparently letting the team down and flying blind in the Latino clip :-P


Yea, I´ll try to crank it up more. It´s incredibly hot in the drum-booth after a good days practicing, so I took the glasses off to prevent fogging or sweat-drops :P.

Dunno if you heard the Dan Druff tune, but I recorded some drums for it, since the keyboardist wanted another repetition, and adding some more piano. But here it is anyway(attachment).

[Pollyanna]

Yea, I´ll try to crank it up more. It´s incredibly hot in the drum-booth after a good days practicing, so I took the glasses off to prevent fogging or sweat-drops :P.

Dunno if you heard the Dan Druff tune, but I recorded some drums for it, since the keyboardist wanted another repetition, and adding some more piano. But here it is anyway(attachment).

Ok, excuse accepted. Fogging is a pain.

I really think cranking up the snare could give your drumming a lift. I've been thinking about how good you are ... yet for some reason your drumming doesn't knock me out even though, by all rights, it should. Dan Druff is a cool piece of prog and you played it great. I reckon the snare sound is letting you down a bit. We all hit our snares a lot so, in your case, that means a lot of dull thuds and no juicy, exciting crack!.

I always thought my vintage snare drum had a decent sound and last week I showed it to Wy. He tuned it - cranked up both the snare head and the reso - and it sounded awesome. He was so blown away by it that he took it over to his mate in the shop with a 'Hey, listen to this!". His mate went nuts too and they set it up with one of the shop's kits (a nice kit, too) and each had a play - completely blittzkrieg! The snare sounded like a cannon! Thankfully there were no customers in the shop. By then I was itching to have a try but when I did it kinda went peep peep by comparison - lol

Seriously, I'm stoked. It's a big improvement. Next day I recorded it at home - the sounds near the lugs and in the centre so I can remember what to go for next time I need to tune up (I ain't messing with the tuning until it loses its mojo!). If Wy's reading - thanks Wy!

The thing I need to look out for once I play with the band again and use that higher tuning is not to be overbearing.

[Thaard]

Ok, excuse accepted. Fogging is a pain.

I really think cranking up the snare could give your drumming a lift. I've been thinking about how good you are ... yet for some reason your drumming doesn't knock me out even though, by all rights, it should. Dan Druff is a cool piece of prog and you played it great. I reckon the snare sound is letting you down a bit. We all hit our snares a lot so, in your case, that means a lot of dull thuds and no juicy, exciting crack!.

I always thought my vintage snare drum had a decent sound and last week I showed it to Wy. He tuned it - cranked up both the snare head and the reso - and it sounded awesome. He was so blown away by it that he took it over to his mate in the shop with a 'Hey, listen to this!". His mate went nuts too and they set it up with one of the shop's kits (a nice kit, too) and each had a play - completely blittzkrieg! The snare sounded like a cannon! Thankfully there were no customers in the shop. By then I was itching to have a try but when I did it kinda went peep peep by comparison - lol

Seriously, I'm stoked. It's a big improvement. Next day I recorded it at home - the sounds near the lugs and in the centre so I can remember what to go for next time I need to tune up (I ain't messing with the tuning until it loses its mojo!). If Wy's reading - thanks Wy!

The thing I need to look out for once I play with the band again and use that higher tuning is not to be overbearing.

Hmm. I´ve cranked my snare way high now, and It seems better. The problem is that I´m not using rimshots all the time, since I nearly got carpal tunnel from it. I´m trying to learn the correct way, but untill then, I´m not risking my future drumming plans for it :P.

Edit: It might also be that we´re using a tom-mic to record the snare.

[Pollyanna]

Hmm. I´ve cranked my snare way high now, and It seems better. The problem is that I´m not using rimshots all the time, since I nearly got carpal tunnel from it. I´m trying to learn the correct way, but untill then, I´m not risking my future drumming plans for it :P.

I do very few remishots myself. I'd like to use them a more to vary the tone but there's always been an issue of practising them because they're so loud so my unreliability with them means there's too mush risk of going 'plink'. Of course, don't push it if it's hurting you.

These threads about rimshots here have some interesting comments

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34441

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28289

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20379

[keep it simple]

Keeping this thread alive yet again with two new playalong vids. First one I tried to get as groove as possible, and I learned some half-time'ish shuffle, so I thought I'd try it. I'm pretty pleased with how it sounded. The other one is just latino and chops. Oh, and ignore the fish-mouth. I dont know why I did that..

half-time groove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axdw6k3Mv44

Latino(ish):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLLeT19YmdoLove the shuffle. I have a real problem with 8th shuffles and left hand technique in general. Too set in my ways and probably too lazy to put the work in. Well done my friend & nice sense of groove. I'd prefer a little more backbeat to contrast the ghosts but that's just the stupid rocker in me asking for improvements in something I can't even do myself. Shut up KIS!!!

[Thaard]

Love the shuffle. I have a real problem with 8th shuffles and left hand technique in general. Too set in my ways and probably too lazy to put the work in. Well done my friend & nice sense of groove. I'd prefer a little more backbeat to contrast the ghosts but that's just the stupid rocker in me asking for improvements in something I can't even do myself. Shut up KIS!!!

Thanks man. Yea, Aydee said something like this. Theres this dude pestering and rating me on youtube, since I sometimes play something else than in the book or the DVD. Typical youtube..

[Pollyanna]

... that's just the stupid rocker in me asking for improvements in something I can't even do myself. Shut up KIS!!!

LOL ditto. Young Thaard totally owns me on the kit.

Still, we're experienced listeners and that must count for something :)

[keep it simple]

LOL ditto. Young Thaard totally owns me on the kit.

Still, we're experienced listeners and that must count for something :)Lots of music production experience counts for a lot Polly. Just because Trevor Horn doesn't play drums, doesn't mean I would ignor his production/arrangement/execution advice! Thaard is well on his way to becoming a talented & well rounded drummer. He'll go far. As for me, I'm a one trick pony who can rock a venue to it's knees if I wish, but have nothing to offer beyond that. That makes me very happy & content to watch players such as Thaard raise the bar. I take great pleasure from the achievements of others.

[Pollyanna]

Lots of music production experience counts for a lot Polly. Just because Trevor Horn doesn't play drums, doesn't mean I would ignor his production/arrangement/execution advice! Thaard is well on his way to becoming a talented & well rounded drummer. He'll go far. As for me, I'm a one trick pony who can rock a venue to it's knees if I wish, but have nothing to offer beyond that. That makes me very happy & content to watch players such as Thaard raise the bar. I take great pleasure from the achievements of others.

You're nicer I am, KIS. If a musician makes my ears or the rest of me happy then I'm pleased for him/her - and even more pleased about being given a good time :) But if my ears are displeased by the music/drum doodling, then even great prowess won't get me keen.

[keep it simple]

You're nicer I am, KIS. If a musician makes my ears or the rest of me happy then I'm pleased for him/her - and even more pleased about being given a good time :) But if my ears are displeased by the music/drum doodling, then even great prowess won't get me keen.Are you on the right forum?????

[Pollyanna]

Are you on the right forum?????

Am I on the right planet?? Is this Mars? I knew I should have taken that left turn at Albuquerque (http://fliiby.com/file/511101/spwrts2ctp.html)

[Thaard]

Am I on the right planet?? Is this Mars? I knew I should have taken that left turn at Albuquerque (http://fliiby.com/file/511101/spwrts2ctp.html)

Haha, get a room you two ;). If it had not been for KIS and Polly, I would still have been playing stuff less authentic. I really appreciate your views, and It´s helping my drumming to get better.

When you reach a certain level of drumming, some people are afraid to give criticism, cause of the whole "You cant give someone better than you critique"(even if I´m not better at keeping it simple :P). Also, I played a small concert with my keyboardist at his school today. I was pretty nervous, but I managed to calm myself down and we played a hell of a concert. Many of the people rushed up to me and started asking how I practiced and this and that. It´s difficult to not get your head in the clouds, but I´ll manage. Thanks again for your views and critique.

[aydee]

..

This is a 3 way bluesy woozy jam from a couple of years back with a great guitar player from Texas. Needless to the say, the single malt party happened before we recorded this jam with a single mic in the middle of the room.

Not after.

Please do enjoy the ending, if even for the wrong reasons(!)
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[Thaard]

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This is a 3 way bluesy woozy jam from a couple of years back with a great guitar player from Texas. Needless to the say, the single malt party happened before we recorded this jam with a single mic in the middle of the room.

Not after.

Please do enjoy the ending, if even for the wrong reasons(!)
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Hey Aydee, thats gotta be the tightes snare sound ever. I thought you played on a metal plate or something. The tune is pretty cool, phat guitarwork, very stable and precise drumming. It got abit repetitive in the end, but jams tend to be that way. Make it a tune, and you got yourself a progressive funk-blues tune!

[aydee]

Hey Aydee, thats gotta be the tightes snare sound ever. I thought you played on a metal plate or something. The tune is pretty cool, phat guitarwork, very stable and precise drumming. It got abit repetitive in the end, but jams tend to be that way. Make it a tune, and you got yourself a progressive funk-blues tune!

LOL, ya we were all a little, what shall I say, frozen in the moment! I agree about the repetitiveness .
Hey, I love that snare. Its a Yammie brass piccolo and works great. I play a Chad Smith Pearl with my home kit but this guy lives with the gigging kit and works great for most live stuff..

[Thaard]

LOL, ya we were all a little, what shall I say, frozen in the moment! I agree about the repetitiveness .
Hey, I love that snare. Its a Yammie brass piccolo and works great. I play a Chad Smith Pearl with my home kit but this guy lives with the gigging kit and works great for most live stuff..

Hmm, well. It fit the music though. Probably just my ears.

[aydee]

Hmm, well. It fit the music though. Probably just my ears.

Me needs a nice woody maple snare really bad, Thaard! Actually I want Peter Erskine's snare real bad! Sound wise, you know.. crisp, dry, woody warm.. I'm getting gooseflesh as I write this...maybe I'll give myself a Christmas present.. maybe I wont.. lets see..

[keep it simple]

LOL, ya we were all a little, what shall I say, frozen in the moment! I agree about the repetitiveness .
Hey, I love that snare. Its a Yammie brass piccolo and works great. I play a Chad Smith Pearl with my home kit but this guy lives with the gigging kit and works great for most live stuff..Let's hear it for piccolo snare drums%^%^$$ They're the greatest live snare ever. They can be delecate ghost machines (as in aydee's clip) or uncontrolled "cut yer head off" backbeat monsters when in the hands of idiots like me! Great music aydee. Real music made by real muso's on muso fuel. Love it, warts "n" all. Disappointed with the ending though. It's traditional in such jams to end each number with the most mangled possible train crash. I think you need to practice a bit more. Lol!

[keep it simple]

Me needs a nice woody maple snare really bad, Thaard! Actually I want Peter Erskine's snare real bad! Sound wise, you know.. crisp, dry, woody warm.. I'm getting gooseflesh as I write this...maybe I'll give myself a Christmas present.. maybe I wont.. lets see..You'd like my 13" x 5" x 11/4" thick Spaun maple stave with genera HD dry batter and super light hazy 100 reso. OooooooSooooo woody.

[Thaard]

Me needs a nice woody maple snare really bad, Thaard! Actually I want Peter Erskine's snare real bad! Sound wise, you know.. crisp, dry, woody warm.. I'm getting gooseflesh as I write this...maybe I'll give myself a Christmas present.. maybe I wont.. lets see..

I get what youre saying. I want a Gretsch wood snare.

[aydee]

uel. Love it, warts "n" all. Disappointed with the ending though. It's traditional in such jams to end each number with the most mangled possible train crash. I think you need to practice a bit more. Lol!

Classic, Andy! : )

..... I thought that was 3 train wrecks- each at a different station... Perhaps thats why its less than spectacular.

It didn't help that the guitarist was keeling sideways off his stool towards the end, making me leap out of mine just in time to grab his custom JD TYLER before it fell to the floor..

You'd like my 13" x 5" x 11/4" thick Spaun maple stave with genera HD dry batter and super light hazy 100 reso. OooooooSooooo woody.

Sounds ( and looks ) delicious! Some day I shall own something that buzzes when I just look at it! : )

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[keep it simple]

Sounds ( and looks ) delicious! Some day I shall own something that buzzes when I just look at it! : )
.I've never posted a picture of it. I'll take one & post it just so you can get more goosebumps. Totally wasted on me. I think you & Thaard should share it. It's my studio snare and I'm not using it for a while yet.

[aydee]

I've never posted a picture of it. I'll take one & post it just so you can get more goosebumps. Totally wasted on me. I think you & Thaard should share it. It's my studio snare and I'm not using it for a while yet.

oops, i thought you had it up on your kit thread..different snare I guess.. your gear makes me very happy.

[Fishnmusicn]

I recorded a few video clips today with my digital camera - the sound is not all that great but I want to get used to recording myself.

I've got a small Tama Stagestar kit - it really is nice, but I'll need to upgrade cymbals and heads down the road. Making do with what I've got now.

I was going to throw in a keyboard song as bait for the drum thing, but I figure this is a safe thread to start with to post something current.

I tend to stick my tongue out when I'm concentrating hard playing drums sometimes, so please disregard the "chimp" countenance I'm wearing, it gets better at the end, and I had to throw in a fish pic at the very end just for fun. Any comments appreciated. Also I realize I'm overplaying some, trying to get that snare down for the Allmans...

Fishnmusicn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyEVuSmt5B4

[lochday]

.. the "chimp" countenance I'm wearing, ... and I had to throw in a fish pic at the very end just for fun. Any comments appreciated...Fishnmusicn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyEVuSmt5B4

That was fun Fishnmusicn. Good drumming adequately fitting the music.
BUT wouldn't it be more appropriate to swap the "chimp" countenance for a "fish" countenance next time? ah ah ah!
Still another clip of yours I really dig.

[Fishnmusicn]

That was fun Fishnmusicn. Good drumming adequately fitting the music.
BUT wouldn't it be more appropriate to swap the "chimp" countenance for a "fish" countenance next time? ah ah ah!
Still another clip of yours I really dig.

Thanks for the comment, nah the fish countnenance can only be used while fishing to get to know the fish before I take them away from their home and then put them back again safely. Seriously, I do the same thing with my tongue when I'm taking them off the hook, must be a concentration thing. I always have to edit that stuff out, but I remember Michael Jordan used to do the same thing when he took a jump shot so I don't feel too bad.

[lochday]

I was just kidding you of course because I didn't really see anything weird in your countenance, just an acute concentration while playing something very nice, and ... you are a very fish- respectful fisher (angler?) allowing them fish to go back to their home after being caught.

[Fishnmusicn]

Thanks again, I checked out your MySpace page - nice jazz, something I'd like to aspire to and those Gretsch? sound great.

[lochday]

Thanks again, I checked out your MySpace page - nice jazz, something I'd like to aspire to and those Gretsch? sound great.

Oh thanks Fishnmisicn for checking my page on myspace. The "eucal" stuff (duets with Corine and Georges + more on Reverbnation) is very special, not really jazz actually but a very unusual "free" experiment in what Georges and Corine call "elliptic music". Not everyone likes that kind of things ah ah!.
"Open Olive" is more traditional but also a "free jazz" experiment for the fun of it with other musicians.
I also do more traditional jazz, esp since I have my Gretsch (too bad I can't remember that jazz standard with the word "fish' in its name but I'll tell you when I recollect it... and yes I am real happy with that Gretsch, and my Bosphorus cymbals, too. (;
I often think of that magical video (beautiful music and landscapes) in which you are "kayacking", I'll go watching it again.

[Fishnmusicn]

Oh thanks Fishnmisicn for checking my page on myspace. The "eucal" stuff (duets with Corine and Georges + more on Reverbnation) is very special, not really jazz actually but a very unusual "free" experiment in what Georges and Corine call "elliptic music". Not everyone likes that kind of things ah ah!.
"Open Olive" is more traditional but also a "free jazz" experiment for the fun of it with other musicians.
I also do more traditional jazz, esp since I have my Gretsch (too bad I can't remember that jazz standard with the word "fish' in its name but I'll tell you when I recollect it... and yes I am real happy with that Gretsch, and my Bosphorus cymbals, too. (;
I often think of that magical video (beautiful music and landscapes) in which you are "kayacking", I'll go watching it again.

Thanks for filling me in with the background on your music - not everyone appreciates the "free" improvisation, but I like to hear it. Speaking of videos, I've been working on another one all day today with some more of my keyboard music and will put it up soon - it has kayaking and fishing in it, hope you will enjoy.

[lochday]

... Speaking of videos, I've been working on another one all day today with some more of my keyboard music and will put it up soon - it has kayaking and fishing in it, hope you will enjoy.

After seeing the previous ones I can't wait to see this new one, and I'll watch it as soon as you put it up. (;

[Fishnmusicn]

Here is the latest. This composition is a few years old, hope you enjoy. I don't know whether its still being processed but definitely better in the HQ version if you give it a little time to buffer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uywa3Ta8YaM

Fishnmusicn

[lochday]

Magnifique!
Looks as if one of your caps has stil got its price tag Ah ah ah (at the beginning)
Another really good and so enjoyable descent into nature.

[aydee]

Here is the latest. This composition is a few years old, hope you enjoy. I don't know whether its still being processed but definitely better in the HQ version if you give it a little time to buffer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uywa3Ta8YaM

Fishnmusicn

I was totally distracted from the music by that evil looking swan chasing your trawler. Nice spinning shots, tho.. so what all did we see there, Perch ? some kind of catfish? what else.. man, you triggered a whole different side of me with that vid.

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[Fishnmusicn]

The tag in the beginning is my fishing license, When I have a baseball cap on I always pin it to the rear of the cap.

About the swan - we were fishing down near the Chesapeake Bay, and a big flock swam slowly over to us - I guess they are just like ducks or geese that are used to being hand fed and we threw them a few pretzels.

In hindsight, I have a few clips of part of the flock and that would have looked less ominous.

The first fish in the video being caught by my buddy is a catfish that tried to eat a crankbait, a lure that has a swimming motion like a fish. The fish at the very end is a dinky yellow perch... just trying to show its not all about the size of the fish, but the experience of being out there and all fish, big and small get handled as gingerly as I can so I can put them back to swim another day.

Fishing is my peaceful getaway. Most of the time problems melt away and you're left with your commune with nature, which is always positive.

Looks like I've used up all my fishing clips until next years adventure, so back to working on the drumming thing, and seeing what I can do there. Thanks for the comments guys.

Cheers

Fishnmusicn

[Rodaquino]

hey people i leave here my last video with secuencer.
all the best!!!!
did you know? i love this place!:-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ormtKuzgKKA

[Filacterua]

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Enjoy!

[Thaard]

Fishnmusicn: Nice vids. Makes me miss the summer.

Rod: Playing with sequencers is hard, and you did good. Really cool ending too.

Anyway, I've been recording the final drum-track to Dan Druff(it isnt mixed yet though) and another practice recording of Purified Orange. Hope the snare sounds better, since I've cranked it high.

[keep it simple]

Anyway, I've been recording the final drum-track to Dan Druff(it isnt mixed yet though) and another practice recording of Purified Orange. Hope the snare sounds better, since I've cranked it high.Hi Thaard, busy boy again I see. This time it's a love & hate thing. I love the Dan Druff track. Great chops, well played, attractive arrangement. This kinda stuff is your thing and certainly where you need to be. Still think the snare's too heavy though. The purified orange track I didn't like at all. Great keys & drum skill but too introvert, disjointed and sloppy for me.

[Thaard]

Hi Thaard, busy boy again I see. This time it's a love & hate thing. I love the Dan Druff track. Great chops, well played, attractive arrangement. This kinda stuff is your thing and certainly where you need to be. Still think the snare's too heavy though. The purified orange track I didn't like at all. Great keys & drum skill but too introvert, disjointed and sloppy for me.

Hehe, I thought you said you "liked" it when I pasted it in the prog thread? Well, well, it was just a practice recording. I will record it in sections when I´m good enough to record the actual drums. I´m keeping busy though, so I´m practicing a new band tune called Nudge to Budge. I´ll post it here when I get better at it.

[keep it simple]

Hehe, I thought you said you "liked" it when I pasted it in the prog thread? Well, well, it was just a practice recording. I will record it in sections when I´m good enough to record the actual drums. I´m keeping busy though, so I´m practicing a new band tune called Nudge to Budge. I´ll post it here when I get better at it.Yes, I liked it in the context of a perfect example of prog excess, but compared to Dan Druff, it doesn't hold up. It's more the arrangement & content than anything else. It's just not tight and doesn't lead me on a journey. Dan Druff is a much more together package and gives your chops meaning & structure.

[Thaard]

Yes, I liked it in the context of a perfect example of prog excess, but compared to Dan Druff, it doesn't hold up. It's more the arrangement & content than anything else. It's just not tight and doesn't lead me on a journey. Dan Druff is a much more together package and gives your chops meaning & structure.

Aha! Well, then you will probably like the finished version of the Dan Druff track. Purified Orange is more for show, and is more of a "this is how technical music can be" sort of music.

It's really difficult to blend technicality and musicality, and thats what we try to do in Syncosis(my band). Mostly though, we just play what sounds good to us, so theres always weird stuff coming up. I'm more of a jazz/fusion type drummer, keyboardist is prog/jazz, guitarist is meshuggah/rythm guitar/lead guitar type, and the bassist(we're probably getting one this christmas) is funk/prog.

About the snare. I'll probably purchase a shallower snare soon. The ian paice sig is just too deep, and metall'ish. So I'll be looking around..

[weegs51690]

www.myspace.com/thepatientmusic


Gear used:

14x5.5 Black Panther Birdseye Maple Snare w/ Vintage Emperor over hazy 300

12x9 Gretsch renown tom w/ Vintage Emperor over Clear Ambassador (No muffling)

16x16 Gretsch Renown Floor w/ Vintage Emperor over Clear Ambassador (No Muffling)

22x14 Old Japanese no-name Kick w/ Clear PS3 over Coated Emperor

14" K hi hats

20" Meinl Byzance Medium Crash

21" Meinl Byzance Medium Ride (Second Crash)

22" K Custom Medium Ride

In the first prechorus you just hear Kick and Sleighbells/Shaker. In the second prechorus you can hear me riding the floor tom as well on the quarters. Listen for it.

I have a full list of the mic's used if anyone would like to know.

Thanks for listening!

[keep it simple]

Purified Orange is more for show, and is more of a "this is how technical music can be" sort of music.
And that's where it falls down for me. Don't get me wrong, great skills through a wide range of styles but it's an exercise, not a song. Dan Druff however has a pleasing structure and works very well as a vehicle for your skills.

As for your snare, I'd certainly go down the wood route, especially with your excellent left hand & ghost work. I'd be tempted to go for 13", cast hoops & stave construction. That's a great combination of tight pop backbeat, warmth of wood and sensitive snare with lots of different tone possibilities. I have a 13" x 5" stave maple for studio stuff and it's superb.

[keep it simple]

www.myspace.com/thepatientmusic


Gear used:

14x5.5 Black Panther Birdseye Maple Snare w/ Vintage Emperor over hazy 300

12x9 Gretsch renown tom w/ Vintage Emperor over Clear Ambassador (No muffling)

16x16 Gretsch Renown Floor w/ Vintage Emperor over Clear Ambassador (No Muffling)

22x14 Old Japanese no-name Kick w/ Clear PS3 over Coated Emperor

14" K hi hats

20" Meinl Byzance Medium Crash

21" Meinl Byzance Medium Ride (Second Crash)

22" K Custom Medium Ride

In the first prechorus you just hear Kick and Sleighbells/Shaker. In the second prechorus you can hear me riding the floor tom as well on the quarters. Listen for it.

I have a full list of the mic's used if anyone would like to know.

Thanks for listening!A loss of blood, really superb track. I like everything about it. Great drum sound and excellent vocal phrasing. Looking forward to hearing more. Nice work!!

[Thaard]

And that's where it falls down for me. Don't get me wrong, great skills through a wide range of styles but it's an exercise, not a song. Dan Druff however has a pleasing structure and works very well as a vehicle for your skills.

As for your snare, I'd certainly go down the wood route, especially with your excellent left hand & ghost work. I'd be tempted to go for 13", cast hoops & stave construction. That's a great combination of tight pop backbeat, warmth of wood and sensitive snare with lots of different tone possibilities. I have a 13" x 5" stave maple for studio stuff and it's superb.

Do you know which manufacturers who produces these? I´ll look around on the net.

[MikeyOdrums]

here are my youtubes www.youtube.com/mikeodabashian

enjoy!

[Thaard]

here are my youtubes www.youtube.com/mikeodabashian

enjoy!

Awesome sounding drums man! I could only dream of getting such an open and crisp sound. Nice playing too!

Well, well, I´ve been practicing to the new band tune called Nudge to Budge(practiced 2 days now) and I´ve come up with the different drum parts. I would like some feedback on the beats on this practice recording. I´ll probably add some more crashes and stuff in the beginning, but you get the picture.

[Fishnmusicn]

Awesome sounding drums man! I could only dream of getting such an open and crisp sound. Nice playing too!

Well, well, I´ve been practicing to the new band tune called Nudge to Budge(practiced 2 days now) and I´ve come up with the different drum parts. I would like some feedback on the beats on this practice recording. I´ll probably add some more crashes and stuff in the beginning, but you get the picture.

In my opinion, you nailed this one, nice and tight - sometimes your playing, although skillful can be a little loosey goosey, don't take it the wrong way, but this was the best I've heard from you in a while, although that shuffle you put up not too long ago was good too. The keyboard player is awesome, great tune...

Fishnmusicn

[Thaard]

In my opinion, you nailed this one, nice and tight - sometimes your playing, although skillful can be a little loosey goosey, don't take it the wrong way, but this was the best I've heard from you in a while, although that shuffle you put up not too long ago was good too. The keyboard player is awesome, great tune...

Fishnmusicn

Thanks man. Yes, one of the main things I'm working on is tightness, since when I started recording regularly, I found out that I was all over the place. It takes time(pun) though.

Oh, and most of the stuff I've pasted(except the youtube videos) are work in progress, so thats why they sometimes are all over the place :P.

[Fishnmusicn]

Thanks man. Yes, one of the main things I'm working on is tightness, since when I started recording regularly, I found out that I was all over the place. It takes time(pun) though.

Oh, and most of the stuff I've pasted(except the youtube videos) are work in progress, so thats why they sometimes are all over the place :P.

No Problem, I'll be checking out that one again on my ipod today while I'm working. Cheers...

[Pollyanna]

Excellent postings over the past few days.

Thaard, I agree with Fish. If you guys stick together for a while you'll be awesome.

[Thaard]

Excellent postings over the past few days.

Thaard, I agree with Fish. If you guys stick together for a while you'll be awesome.

Thanks a lot! I´ll pass it over to the others in the band :)!
We´re getting a bassist for christmas(literally, since we´ve been using clicktrack), so I´m pretty stoked. I´ve jammed with him some times, and it worked really well. We´re hoping to play live around may-june, so It´s gonna be alot of practicing.

[Thaard]

Oh yea, a new shuffle-vid I recorded today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgxKK0X1PI0

[Fishnmusicn]

Nice playing - If you keep on tightening up (in the right way), you're gonna sound awesome. You do a lot of neat little things. You're on the way - keep on doing what you're doing.

[keep it simple]

Well, well, I´ve been practicing to the new band tune called Nudge to Budge(practiced 2 days now) and I´ve come up with the different drum parts. I would like some feedback on the beats on this practice recording. I´ll probably add some more crashes and stuff in the beginning, but you get the picture.Nice tight prog. Best yet Thaardy boy. Great key sounds too. Yes, good to get a few more well placed crashes in there for dramatic effect. It's coming together nicely!

[keep it simple]

Oh yea, a new shuffle-vid I recorded today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgxKK0X1PI0Much better. Nice hat work. Just the snare sound to sort out now.

[keep it simple]

here are my youtubes www.youtube.com/mikeodabashian

enjoy!Bravely open snare sound, love that. Just great playing Mikey. Conviction & passion comes across beautifully.

[Thaard]

Much better. Nice hat work. Just the snare sound to sort out now.

Thanks, I'm looking into the "snare problem" now: I'm lucky enough to have an uncle that owns a drumshop. so I'll be checking some new snares out.

[keep it simple]

I'm lucky enough to have an uncle that owns a drumshop. Whoohoo!! DEALS, DEALS, DEALS!!!

[Thaard]

New funk-vid and new drum sound! omg omg!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ufjrgirc40

[keep it simple]

New funk-vid and new drum sound! omg omg!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ufjrgirc40
Groove is smokin' now & much improved sound. What have you changed?

[Thaard]

Groove is smokin' now & much improved sound. What have you changed?

It was phasing. We(me and the keyboardist) found out that the bass-drum mic had fallen into the bassdrum and recorded the pillow instead. We put a limiter on it too, since there was a vast amount of bleed, which made the snare sound "wooly". Thanks for the kind words :)!

[Thaard]

New fast-jazz drumvideo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VnvU5_sad0

[Fishnmusicn]

New fast-jazz drumvideo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VnvU5_sad0

You have a nice loose relaxed playing style not easy for some of us to achieve, the recording setup really shows off your cymbals, they sound nice, nice job.

I have just a short clip to share here. I'm definitely a work in progress when it comes to the drums, but I'll keep at it.

Unfortunately with money needed to get some dental work done, something had to go so I sold my acoustic kit yesterday. I was really broken up over it last night, but I still have my Roland E-kit to play on until I can get another set.

I suppose I was taking for granted the nice outlet of playing for a half an hour or hour after work or more on weekends (depending on the neighbors).

Anyway, at this point I'll be getting back into my keyboard stuff, but I learned a good lesson yesterday - the drumming urge is still alive and well within me, so I'll do both.

The clip is short, just an old guy jamming, my timing is pretty good but I need work on the transitional fills and consistency with my playing.

Fishnmusicn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW_h_xi6Txc

[Thaard]

You have a nice loose relaxed playing style not easy for some of us to achieve, the recording setup really shows off your cymbals, they sound nice, nice job.

I have just a short clip to share here. I'm definitely a work in progress when it comes to the drums, but I'll keep at it.

Unfortunately with money needed to get some dental work done, something had to go so I sold my acoustic kit yesterday. I was really broken up over it last night, but I still have my Roland E-kit to play on until I can get another set.

I suppose I was taking for granted the nice outlet of playing for a half an hour or hour after work or more on weekends (depending on the neighbors).

Anyway, at this point I'll be getting back into my keyboard stuff, but I learned a good lesson yesterday - the drumming urge is still alive and well within me, so I'll do both.

The clip is short, just an old guy jamming, my timing is pretty good but I need work on the transitional fills and consistency with my playing.

Fishnmusicn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW_h_xi6Txc

Thank you! It really sucks when you have to sacrifice your drums to get money. I would've sold my drums as a last measure, but I guess thats what it was. Your timing is right on the coin, but as you say, it needs more transitional fills. Hope you get your drumkit back, one day.

[Fishnmusicn]

Oh, it was definitely a last measure - I got the estimate this week on my dental work. I'm going to a dental school so I'm saving a lot of money there, but it's still not cheap. Considering the fact that I only paid 200 bucks for that little kit and sold it for more, I got some good time out of it, but I do miss it. Next time I'm going to buy a used set with hardware and cymbals complete and spend a little more. It would have cost a lot to add on to this set. Fortunately I can still practice and play on the E-kit so I won't get rusty.

[keep it simple]

Wow Thaard, you've really aged over the last week. Not a good look my friend. I know you currently have about 3 hours of daylight but that's rediculous!!!

Sorry to hear about the kit Fish, that's a bummer. I'd have sold the electric kit.

[Thaard]

Wow Thaard, you've really aged over the last week. Not a good look my friend. I know you currently have about 3 hours of daylight but that's rediculous!!!

Sorry to hear about the kit Fish, that's a bummer. I'd have sold the electric kit.

Haha, you talking bout my avatar, the music or how I look in the video? :P

[Retrovertigo]

no video ... oh well. the tune riding into battle is pretty cool. (truth be told, i like all of it)

www.myspace.com/bigterrible

[Fishnmusicn]

I was wondering about your avatar too - guess that's a current picture, gasp... playing behind those curtains at all hours has it's price I suppose, at least your mask is holding up well...

[Thaard]

I was wondering about your avatar too - guess that's a current picture, gasp... playing behind those curtains at all hours has it's price I suppose, at least your mask is holding up well...

Yea, It´s a sacrifice I make since I´m practicing drums 26 hours a day, and use a time travel machine to go back in time and practice more. The drawback is that I get considerably older and look like a deranged professor.

[Thaard]

New youtube vid. Playing in 7/8 this time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2FFS6Yvt3A

[Thunderstix]

I recorded two songs over the weekend I'm quite happy with, especially the first one:

Funk-latin cover (http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57569)

Ska cover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA1UD1lGSuk)

[drumbum081]

here are my youtubes www.youtube.com/mikeodabashian

enjoy!

brilliant man loved it! I plan on posting vids as soon as I can find a proper way of recording at home.
Did you major in a music program? If so where? Sounds brilliant though either way!

[keep it simple]

New youtube vid. Playing in 7/8 this time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2FFS6Yvt3AReally nice playing. I especially like the cymbal work in the intro. I'm getting worried about your avatar appearance though. I think "the curtain" is having a padded cell effect!

[Thaard]

Really nice playing. I especially like the cymbal work in the intro. I'm getting worried about your avatar appearance though. I think "the curtain" is having a padded cell effect!

RAAAGHHRAAA ARRHAHAAA!!!

[keep it simple]

RAAAGHHRAAA ARRHAHAAA!!!Oh dear, my worst fears are coming true. A combination of Scandinavian winter sunlight starvation and revert to type 80's death metal viking reincarnation. Kinda cool combination with the 7/8 though. Maybe you've just stumbled across a new genre! Nordic death swing?

[Pollyanna]

Oh dear, my worst fears are coming true. A combination of Scandinavian winter sunlight starvation and revert to type 80's death metal viking reincarnation. Kinda cool combination with the 7/8 though. Maybe you've just stumbled across a new genre! Nordic death swing?

lol Nordic death swing.

Seeing our up-and-coming smooth-jazz star with that avatar is like watching Seinfeld covered in blood in a slasher movie.

[Thaard]

lol Nordic death swing.

Seeing our up-and-coming smooth-jazz star with that avatar is like watching Seinfeld and covered in blood in a slasher movie.

*Jerry Seinfeld voice*: "Now whats up with dead people anyway? Who are these dead people!?"

[Pollyanna]

*Jerry Seinfeld voice*: "Now whats up with dead people anyway? Who are these dead people!?"

Not that there's anything wrong with dead people!

[Thaard]

Not that there's anything wrong with dead people!

No, never...

20202020

[Pollyanna]

No, never...

Some of my best friends are dead people - but it's hard to stay in touch :-P Pls pardon the disgraceful black humour. Couldn't help myself

Last week we almost got down a version of Sunshine of Your Love (played with brushes) that would have been worth posting.

Months ago KIS and I talked about creating a "Post your band's version of Sunshine of Your Love" thread but my group's version isn't quite stageworthy yet - there's still always something that goes skewiff - and I ain't posting till I know it won't cause people pain :)

[keep it simple]

Months ago KIS and I talked about creating a "Post your band's version of Sunshine of Your Love" thread but my group's version isn't quite stageworthy yet - there's still always something that goes skewiff - and I ain't posting till I know it won't cause people pain :)Yeah, I'm into that. My band plays a rocked up version. I decided to play a straight beat on the number instead of the original paddling around the toms stuff. Sort of gives it a cleaner drive IMO. Anyhow, it's not one of the numbers we're doing in the studio soon but I can certainly record it at practice on my zoom & post it. Actually, thinking as I type this, I think I've got a practice recording from when our key player joined and played the track for the first time. It's full of mistakes (me included) but I'll listen to it and see if I'm brave (or stupid) enough to post it.

[keep it simple]

Yeah, I'm into that. My band plays a rocked up version. I decided to play a straight beat on the number instead of the original paddling around the toms stuff. Sort of gives it a cleaner drive IMO. Anyhow, it's not one of the numbers we're doing in the studio soon but I can certainly record it at practice on my zoom & post it. Actually, thinking as I type this, I think I've got a practice recording from when our key player joined and played the track for the first time. It's full of mistakes (me included) but I'll listen to it and see if I'm brave (or stupid) enough to post it.OK Polly, here it is. I've mustered the 'nads to post this. We record everything at every practice just to see what works & what doesn't so this is no attempt at capture. The key player would kill me if he knew I'd posted this. Have some fun at my expense!

[Thaard]

OK Polly, here it is. I've mustered the 'nads to post this. We record everything at every practice just to see what works & what doesn't so this is no attempt at capture. The key player would kill me if he knew I'd posted this. Have some fun at my expense!

Hey KIS, that was pretty good! Nice drumming and cool guitar solo! If I may suggest playing quarters on a open hihat, it will sound heavier and not as thin as with playing on the ride. Just a personal thought,

Polly: I like black humour, so you dont need to excuse yourself :P

[MJSbass]

Well, hey guys - new here - but not new to drumming or drum forums.

Thought I'd throw in a clip of a good old Weckl cover. . .

Compliments, critiques, angry insults ;) welcome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKoa52yeWc

[fmass92]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNmDgzmXmuU

[Pollyanna]

OK Polly, here it is. I've mustered the 'nads to post this. We record everything at every practice just to see what works & what doesn't so this is no attempt at capture. The key player would kill me if he knew I'd posted this. Have some fun at my expense!

Damn you, KIS! Now I'll look overly precious if I don't post one of our flawed versions. Ok, this is from last time we played and I wasn't rusty. I had the wrong setting on the Zoom so it's distorted and there's a few stuff ups but you've forced my hand lol

You guys sure do a rockin' version! Interesting how playing backbeat re-contextualises the riff. The refrains in the choruses work great and the quiet third verse is a good idea. I see you've found the mongrel :) You're a Thin Lizzy fan, aren't you? It has a very Thin Lizzy feel about it and you seem influenced by Brian Downey. I can definitely see that version getting the punters bopping.

We've gone the opposite way - our version with me playing brushes (snares off) has a kind of ethereal quality.

31361

[keep it simple]

Damn you, KIS! Now I'll look overly precious if I don't post one of our flawed versions. Ok, this is from last time we played and I wasn't rusty. I had the wrong setting on the Zoom so it's distorted and there's a few stuff ups but you've forced my hand lol

You guys sure do a rockin' version! Interesting how playing backbeat re-contextualises the riff. The refrains in the choruses work great and the quiet third verse is a good idea. I see you've found the mongrel :) You're a Thin Lizzy fan, aren't you? It has a very Thin Lizzy feel about it and you seem influenced by Brian Downey. I can definitely see that version getting the punters bopping.

We've gone the opposite way - our version with me playing brushes (snares off) has a kind of ethereal quality.

31361Hahaha. I thought if I can post a warts 'n' all version then I'd probably force your hand. You bit, & I'm glad you did. Hey, we all have recordings that are way off perfect. That's what practices are all about. Ok, they were never intended for consumption outside of the band members, but we're amongst friends here and honest critique made against the context that the recording was made is refreshing & potentially useful.

Comments on my version; I'm not a big Lizzy fan but I do like some of their numbers. I'm not a big Downey fan but he did some good stuff. Interesting that you make the association. I actually thought I kept the doberman mostly in the cage. This version is designed to be a punter bopping number & I think it works. The key parts are better worked through now so we play it with more power lately than on this recording. Thaard, you may have a point on the quarters, especially during the solo. I might amalgamate the two but I do want to keep some swing in there too.

Comments on Polly's version; In concept, I prefer your version polly. I love the slightly eastern feel creeping in from time to time and the brushes add pace whilst the bass & vocal line holds everything back. Nice tension. Your singer has a great voice & I think he needs to let it rip a couple of times to offer contrast. Overall, love the feel.

[Pollyanna]

Hahaha. I thought if I can post a warts 'n' all version then I'd probably force your hand.

Touche! lol


Comments on my version; I'm not a big Lizzy fan but I do like some of their numbers. I'm not a big Downey fan but he did some good stuff. Interesting that you make the association. I actually thought I kept the doberman mostly in the cage.

I think it was the Bonham-eseque four stroke rolls (? tech isn't my strong point) I think it'sRH-LH-RH-RF. Brian D likes doing them too, and the feel of your beat reminded me of him.

Maybe if you're going to play hats in the solo, keep them open to fill in? BTW, it was a good solo. Where your star keys player? He seems to be buried.


This version is designed to be a punter bopping number & I think it works.

I agree, and I didn't think I could enjoy that song played with a regular backbeat because I always liked the jungle-y flavour of the song with Ginger's toms. But you guys play it with enough conviction to re-interpret it in a way that sounds cool and really rocks out.


I love the slightly eastern feel creeping in from time to time and the brushes add pace whilst the bass & vocal line holds everything back. Nice tension. Your singer has a great voice & I think he needs to let it rip a couple of times to offer contrast. Overall, love the feel.

Thanks KIS! Michael got it right in that tune. I've been calling him Michael Modal since he came up with that :)

At first I'd tried sticks but I dominated the band sound too much so I switched to brushes. The question was, how to use brushes and not render the song genteel and retain that jungle-y, wild flavour of the track? ... turn off the snares to get a bongo sound and whack the stuffing out of it (at last!). It's not an easy beat for me to get sitting properly from go to whoa so that's something that should come with practice. But I can't see too many non-stoned punters dancing to it :)

I think our singer would say he IS letting it rip lol. But yeah, it's still a bit one-dimensional.

Once we have our versions sorted out more we can go ahead with a dedicated Sunshine thread. I'm sure we're not the only ones ...

[keep it simple]

I think it was the Bonham-eseque four stroke rolls (? tech isn't my strong point) I think it'sRH-LH-RH-RF. Brian D likes doing them too, and the feel of your beat reminded me of him.

Once we have our versions sorted out more we can go ahead with a dedicated Sunshine thread. I'm sure we're not the only ones ...

That fill version is actually a twist used by a sadly departed drummer friend of mine, Keith (funky) Butler. Although you can't hear it in that recording, the kick runs through the fill. In a gig context, it's very powerful. Difficult to put into text but essentially; kick & snare flam at the same time - kick - LR - kick - kick.

The keys are sadly lacking in that recording. It was his first shot at it upon joining the band (hence the mistakes) and the band balance isn't good. We throw the Zoom into the middle of the floor & hope for the best. It's just a practice referance tool. You'll hear the key player in the recordings we're doing in a couple of weeks time.

As for a dedicated "Sunshine" thread, I like the idea. I did a "Ginger" tom style version a few months ago when the band was a three piece but I can't find a recording of it. I used a totally different approach to Ginger. He uses a down 1 + 4 and accent on 3& feel. I used what I call a cascading triplet feel to the toms with the kick providing syncopation. Problem with that version, although the drum parts were vastly more interesting, the overall feel of the song was too similar to the original, so we binned it. From a drummers POV, a shame really, but if it doesn't benefit the band, it doesn't get in.

[keep it simple]

Well, hey guys - new here - but not new to drumming or drum forums.

Thought I'd throw in a clip of a good old Weckl cover. . .

Compliments, critiques, angry insults ;) welcome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKoa52yeWcFirst off, a big warm welcome to the forum. Very nice skills. Interesting light hats. The whole feel of the first section is very similar to stuff I'd do with a project 3 piece of mine many years ago. I really like it from 3 mins onwards though where you really get into your stride. Great stuff, especially the snare roll work. Overall, way too taxing for an old never been rocker like me these days. Put a big smile on my face.

[Pollyanna]

Difficult to put into text but essentially; kick & snare flam at the same time - kick - LR - kick - kick.

Ta, even if it makes my head spin :) "Wild thang! You make mah head spin!" :) Never mind, no call for the big tom things with my crew.


We throw the Zoom into the middle of the floor & hope for the best. It's just a practice referance tool. You'll hear the key player in the recordings we're doing in a couple of weeks time.


Looking forward to that. There were hints of a Doors-ish guitar/organ riffing combo. I'm sure it will sound great once he's got himself sorted out.

Those Zooms are a riddle, aren't they? As with any small recorder, no matter what you do, it's impossible to get the mix just right and the drums always seem to be higher in the mix than they sounded in the room :( I keep asking if I'm too loud and the answer is always no.

The best result is if it's on the opposite side of the room and raised on a mic stand. Preferably everyone is closer to it than me, but our keys player seems to have claimed the corner to my right.


I did a "Ginger" tom style version a few months ago ... although the drum parts were vastly more interesting, the overall feel of the song was too similar to the original, so we binned it. From a drummers POV, a shame really, but if it doesn't benefit the band, it doesn't get in.

I prefer bands playing their own versions of covers so that works for me. Good for you to choose the best drum part for the band rather than the best drum part. It can be hard to give up those pet lines!

[bobacwrd]

Well, I'm not new to this site, but I just don't post alot either. I thought I would put something out on this thread for grins and giggles. This is my band Medium Density. We are from SoCal and we play originals and some choice selected covers. I would say the music is in the vain of progressive rock or fusion. I have attached some vids for your viewing that we did about a year ago in my rehearsal studio. The video was shot using a surveillance camera with a wide angle and not much in the way of micing so I apologize for the quality but it's good enough to get the point across. hope y'all like them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrtgjdnn8mI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1lhmY_Bsiw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTrCB_rin4A&feature=related

[keep it simple]

Well, I'm not new to this site, but I just don't post alot either. I thought I would put something out on this thread for grins and giggles. This is my band Medium Density. We are from SoCal and we play originals and some choice selected covers. I would say the music is in the vain of progressive rock or fusion. I have attached some vids for your viewing that we did about a year ago in my rehearsal studio. The video was shot using a surveillance camera with a wide angle and not much in the way of micing so I apologize for the quality but it's good enough to get the point across. hope y'all like them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrtgjdnn8mI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1lhmY_Bsiw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTrCB_rin4A&feature=relatedMighty superb playing Bob. Faultless DS rolls and great skills all round. Your style & talent match the material perfectly. A real prog drummers playground.

[bobacwrd]

Mighty superb playing Bob. Faultless DS rolls and great skills all round. Your style & talent match the material perfectly. A real prog drummers playground.

Well I must say a very warmfelt thank you for the kind words. I am glad you enjoyed them.

[MJSbass]

Well, I'm not new to this site, but I just don't post alot either. I thought I would put something out on this thread for grins and giggles. This is my band Medium Density. We are from SoCal and we play originals and some choice selected covers. I would say the music is in the vain of progressive rock or fusion. I have attached some vids for your viewing that we did about a year ago in my rehearsal studio. The video was shot using a surveillance camera with a wide angle and not much in the way of micing so I apologize for the quality but it's good enough to get the point across. hope y'all like them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrtgjdnn8mI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1lhmY_Bsiw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTrCB_rin4A&feature=related

Loved the second video the most - but I enjoyed all of them a bunch. Very nice playing!
Long live fusion!

[Thaard]

New drumvid. In 9/8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzc5l1oVGSY

[keep it simple]

New drumvid. In 9/8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzc5l1oVGSYReally nice relaxed feel you had going there, and yes, solo was excellent.

P.S. is that a part lathed duo crash I see there, just to the right of your rack tom?

[Thaard]

Really nice relaxed feel you had going there, and yes, solo was excellent.

P.S. is that a part lathed duo crash I see there, just to the right of your rack tom?

Thats the el sabor hand-crash that Jojo Mayer uses. Its awesome!

[keep it simple]

Thats the el sabor hand-crash that Jojo Mayer uses. Its awesome! Sabian, right? It's incredibly similar to the Duo crash of the same make. See mine below, far left;

[Thaard]

Sabian, right? It's incredibly similar to the Duo crash of the same make. See mine below, far left;
Yep, It's nice since you can crash it with your hands for when you are playing brushes for example. I see you have a nice selection of cymbals there :P.

[Pollyanna]

KIS, that cymbal selection is a work of art. I wish I knew about the hand crash earlier; that would have been perfect for me but I don't have room for an extra cymbal because the band aims to play in compact places.

Thaard, you know I'm impressed with your playing so just ditto my previous comments. Have you tried creating alternative versions of these tracks to turn them on their heads? I think you'd find that an interesting exercise - a Copeland version, a Ringo version, a Blakey version, a Gadd version etc.

[Thaard]

KIS, that cymbal selection is a work of art. I wish I knew about the hand crash earlier; that would have been perfect for me but I don't have room for an extra cymbal because the band aims to play in compact places.

Thaard, you know I'm impressed with your playing so just ditto my previous comments. Have you tried creating alternative versions of these tracks to turn them on their heads? I think you'd find that an interesting exercise - a Copeland version, a Ringo version, a Blakey version, a Gadd version etc.

Well, yes. Mostly I make my own versions and grooves for the playalong-tracks(to some purists dismay). I think I'll try to cover some more well known songs and stuff, but I'm abit unsure of which. If you got any requests, let me hear'em. I'll probably do Highway Star with Deep Purple pretty soon, since It's one of the first songs I learned on the drums. Other suggestions are welcome :)

[Fishnmusicn]

I'd like to see you do Highway Star, love that song. Nail those fills man... in your way of course...

Fishnmusicn

[NilsM]

My playing:

Click (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0ZM2KyxeGo)

kinda hectic, I'm working on getting a more relaxed feel. on the drums

[wnameth]

www.myspace.com/callthecavalry

posted a thread a while about about it, thought id stick it hear for simplicities sake... im drumming on the first to tracks: Coda and Sycamore.
let me know what you think!

-Wes

[Wavelength]

I tested out my band mate's drum mic set and improvised this little ditty. I'm still working on the horns...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132062/Pylon%20of%20force.mp3

[larryace]

Here's a few more tunes from my band Blue Bizness recorded live in Dec. 2008. This is the band that only works maybe 4-6 dates a year.

[freebirdgdw]

Forgot about this thread! heres my metalcore/hardcore band Plagues (http://www.myspace.com/plaguesofficial). Only one track up at the min but another should be up over the next few weeks :)

[Fishnmusicn]

Here's a few more tunes from my band Blue Bizness recorded live in Dec. 2008. This is the band that only works maybe 4-6 dates a year.

Nice playing Larry, great harp player, you guys sound like a fun band. Would like to see you playing along the river in the summertime.

Fishnmusicn

[Mattiadrummer]

Hello my friends,I want show you some videos, thanks for the watching


Demo song,sorry the video is lost :-(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RKq-Vk_HAA

Drumsolo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGpDeaBekpU

Funk minus drum+drumsolo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lESAc...eature=related

Tommy Igoe's minus drum groove (I hope groove!!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7qUy...eature=related

Bad experiment whit my macbook,Sound Of Muzak...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg9nU...eature=related

State of Mind by Raul Midon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ndDr...eature=related

Italian Pop Song (LOL)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LvG3...eature=related

Something's Missing John Mayer Drum cover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0F6PQdd5h8

Very stupid Bic pen groove :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPbPW...eature=related

Rehearsal in London whit one of my bands
Slow songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jCLw0Z7JvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awJsU...eature=related

Funk songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DG18...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xceuw...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnsjr...eature=related

Blues,Shuffle songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2P-...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNkia...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOETYKLUVMo

...thanks...

Mattia :-)

[A-customs]

Well, I'm not new to this site, but I just don't post alot either. I thought I would put something out on this thread for grins and giggles. This is my band Medium Density. We are from SoCal and we play originals and some choice selected covers. I would say the music is in the vain of progressive rock or fusion. I have attached some vids for your viewing that we did about a year ago in my rehearsal studio. The video was shot using a surveillance camera with a wide angle and not much in the way of micing so I apologize for the quality but it's good enough to get the point across. hope y'all like them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrtgjdnn8mI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1lhmY_Bsiw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTrCB_rin4A&feature=related

Nice Playing, Love the selection of material.........Is that a A custom 22" ride you playing????

[jazzbeat]

Hello

My videos inside:

http://www.myspace.com/vytisvainilaitis

W

[Pollyanna]

Hello

My videos inside:

http://www.myspace.com/vytisvainilaitis

You have a great gig, Vytis. Terrific band and Jurga is a sensational frontwoman and vocalist. For some reason my connection is running slow so I only got to check out Living Like You Said, but that's Favourited now :)

[Pollyanna]

Here's a few more tunes from my band Blue Bizness recorded live in Dec. 2008. This is the band that only works maybe 4-6 dates a year.

Larry, for someone who often speaks of the joys of playing simply you're a pretty flashy drummer in my books :) Those little fills 50 seconds and 2 mins into Love and War were very cute and worked great. Noted!

What cymbals are you using? Very clean hats and ride.

[larryace]

Thanks Polly. That is the one of the rare songs we do in this band where I play almost anything but a straight beat. I've never heard any version of that song whatsoever, the guy who sings it (in my band) just brought it in and I made that part up with nothing to "go on". Those fills you mentioned...if I didn't play them, it'd leave a big hole in my mind. Yes I advocate simple, but it's really not, it's just an attitude where you keep a solid beat for the singer and soloists to weave around, (which is 95% of the song usually) don't steal their spotlight, but there's always nuances, ghosts, set ups, dynamic build ups, support figures for the soloists, and tasty figures at transition points and any other necessary places.

Maybe instead of calling it simple playing it should be coined anti-unnecessary playing. I try to only play things that are absolutely necessary and vital, they have to serve a definite purpose, otherwise I keep it straight. (with ghosts and feel, but still a reliable "straight" backbeat) I won't do something just because I can fit it in. That's ametuer, indulgent and "show offy" stuff in my book.

My ride cymbal is a 21" Sabian hand hammered raw bell dry ride (HHRBDR). So far my #1 choice of ride until something unseats it. I love that cymbal. Good ping, good shoulder sound, nice bell. People say you can't crash it, but I do. (not real hard, it is a thick cymbal) It has a different crash sound, definitely imperfect, but that's the appeal.
The hats..the top is just a 14" Zildjian A Custom medium weight brilliant finish, the bottom is a 14" Sabian XS20 "rock" hat. It's not considered a "top of the line" cymbal, but I don't care, I like the sound of it. It's the "cheapest" piece on my kit, but it works nicely with my A Custom on top.

[keep it simple]

Larry, for someone who often speaks of the joys of playing simply you're a pretty flashy drummer in my books :) Those little fills 50 seconds and 2 mins into Love and War were very cute and worked great. Noted!

What cymbals are you using? Very clean hats and ride.Agrrhhhh, still can't play Larry's stuff on my notebook. I'll have to wait until my PC returns from the repair shop. Larry, flashy? Can't wait.

[jazzbeat]

You have a great gig, Vytis. Terrific band and Jurga is a sensational frontwoman and vocalist. For some reason my connection is running slow so I only got to check out Living Like You Said, but that's Favourited now :)

Thank You!!! Hope You'll enjoy other videos too!

[Pollyanna]

Thanks Polly. That is the one of the rare songs we do in this band where I play almost anything but a straight beat. I've never heard any version of that song whatsoever, the guy who sings it (in my band) just brought it in and I made that part up with nothing to "go on". Those fills you mentioned...if I didn't play them, it'd leave a big hole in my mind.

I love working out drum parts without hearing the original. It's great to play a song as though you were in there when the original was being worked out.

Yes I advocate simple, but it's really not, it's just an attitude where you keep a solid beat for the singer and soloists to weave around, (which is 95% of the song usually) don't steal their spotlight, but there's always nuances, ghosts, set ups, dynamic build ups, support figures for the soloists, and tasty figures at transition points and any other necessary places.

Heh, you do a lot of that stuff. You're a much "drummier" drummer than you let on. If I was in the audience I'd be checking you out a lot of the time :) The older I get the more I'm embracing the unadorned ostinato - very "undrummy". I would have hated my current style when I was young but now ...

I'm an Ostinato girl (http://www.purelyrics.com/index.php?lyrics=fhjpacrk) in the Ostinato world
Drumming plain leaves no stain
They can play their licks, all those tricks
Imagination for me, but no strain.

:)

Maybe instead of calling it simple playing it should be coined anti-unnecessary playing. I try to only play things that are absolutely necessary and vital, they have to serve a definite purpose, otherwise I keep it straight. (with ghosts and feel, but still a reliable "straight" backbeat) I won't do something just because I can fit it in. That's amateur, indulgent and "show offy" stuff in my book.

Yeah, I find that ghosts can help keep things trucking. Love the little hats in The Bell Has Tolled. Smooooth

My ride cymbal is a 21" Sabian hand hammered raw bell dry ride (HHRBDR). So far my #1 choice of ride until something unseats it. I love that cymbal. Good ping, good shoulder sound, nice bell. People say you can't crash it, but I do. (not real hard, it is a thick cymbal) It has a different crash sound, definitely imperfect, but that's the appeal.
The hats..the top is just a 14" Zildjian A Custom medium weight brilliant finish, the bottom is a 14" Sabian XS20 "rock" hat. It's not considered a "top of the line" cymbal, but I don't care, I like the sound of it. It's the "cheapest" piece on my kit, but it works nicely with my A Custom on top.

Ta Larry. They sounded so clean I was thinking Paiste but the ride was cleaner than I would have expected and wondered if you had a little tape on it. Whatever, it's a very clean and crisp array of cymbals you have. The whole kit sounds lovely as does the whole band. A very enjoyable blues outfit you have there!

[keep it simple]

Here's a few more tunes from my band Blue Bizness recorded live in Dec. 2008. This is the band that only works maybe 4-6 dates a year. Hey Larry, just got my computer back from the repair shop so I finally get to hear your stuff. Love it, all of it, a lot. Nice drum sound, skillful playing, superb execution with some really tasty touches here & there. I'd love to be propping the bar up at one of your gigs. I'd be as happy as a pig in mud.

[larryace]

Geez Andy thanks man!
I'm flattered by your kind words.
Let's hear some more of your stuff!

[keep it simple]

Geez Andy thanks man!
I'm flattered by your kind words.
Let's hear some more of your stuff!No problem Larry, I meant every word. BTW, I'm mixing more of my crap this weekend so I'll post something in the week.

[aydee]

Here's a few more tunes from my band Blue Bizness recorded live in Dec. 2008. This is the band that only works maybe 4-6 dates a year.

Nice tight & controlled playing Larry! Me liked very much.

Your drums sound great too...very organic.. I liked the band, but your guitarist kinda lost me with his solo on the Build me a Woman tune.. It seem to go from very bluesy to some very strange places.... I dunno, maybe I'm in a strange mood today.

[keep it simple]

I dunno, maybe I'm in a strange mood today. No Abe, you're just strange. Me too. Being strange is a great place to be.

[aydee]

No Abe, you're just strange. Me too. Being strange is a great place to be.

When you're strange
Faces come out of the rain
When you're strange
No one remembers your name

[keep it simple]

When you're strange
Faces come out of the rain
When you're strange
No one remembers your nameCompletely correct brian. My, you look wet!

[larryace]

Nice tight & controlled playing Larry! Me liked very much.

Your drums sound great too...very organic.. I liked the band, but your guitarist kinda lost me with his solo on the Build me a Woman tune.. It seem to go from very bluesy to some very strange places.... I dunno, maybe I'm in a strange mood today.

Thanks man...About the drums, single ply 10 mil heads, no muffling. (Coated emp on the snare) Abe, the guitarist doesn't know his scales. He can play the hell out of rhythm chords, he really is a fantastic rhythm player in my mind, but when it comes time for him to play lead it's usually 1 of 3 things: brilliant, strange, or pretty bad. It all depends on his level of nervousness. That night was a good one for him, he played some brilliant solos in a few other tunes, the Build Me a Woman solo was a strange one. At least it wasn't one of his cringing type bad leads ha ha. I love it, I put my playing up and the guitarist gets critiqued! It doesn't add up in my mind that a guy who plays rhythm so tastefully can't play lead. Actually he can, it's a nervous issue thing that bites him (and us, ugh). But he still won't learn scales and feels his way around. Sometimes he's on, sometimes not.

[aydee]

He can play the hell out of rhythm chords, he really is a fantastic rhythm player in my mind, but when it comes time for him to play lead it's usually 1 of 3 things: brilliant, strange, or pretty bad.

Aha.. I was right! Yea, sometimes its a bridge too far to go from solid comping to actually having to step up front and say something musically. The funny thing was that he started so sweet and true....

Love the sound of your drums.

PS- kickbutt harp playing.


...

[Pollyanna]

I love it, I put my playing up and the guitarist gets critiqued!

Well done, Larry. Mission accomplished for the accompanist :)

When Ive posted things people remarked on our singer. That's a better result than, "Weell ... the drums in X part lost the groove, played too loud in Y part and that fill leading to the bridge didn't work etc"

Agree with Abe that every piece your kit sounds great - if if he is a kinda strange, wet guy :) Your snare is especially tasty.

Good pickup about that solo. I'm so used to our guitarists playing somewhat odd, untogether solos I'm starting to see that as normal. IMO, if a musician can't be sure of a decent solo in a tune then they should work out a melodic solo to play instead. Not that anyone listens to me *sigh*

[larryace]

Again, thanks guys for the kind words, but I want to hear what you didn't like so I can sink my teeth into some real critique. I'm unoffendable so feel free to fire away.

[Pollyanna]

Again, thanks guys for the kind words, but I want to hear what you didn't like so I can sink my teeth into some real critique. I'm unoffendable so feel free to fire away.

Larry, there were microtiming errors here and there but I didn't feel in a position to say so because you play cleaner time than I do. I also expect you would be acutely more aware of them than I am.

[keep it simple]

Again, thanks guys for the kind words, but I want to hear what you didn't like so I can sink my teeth into some real critique. I'm unoffendable so feel free to fire away.Hmmm, difficult one that Larry. The problem here is, you're very good. Everything you play compliments the song really well. Of course, each one of us might play the song with a slightly different feel, maybe a change of fill here or there, but what's the point? If you bend to preference, then the playing wouldn't be Larry.

[larryace]

Larry, there were microtiming errors here and there but I didn't feel in a position to say so because you play cleaner time than I do. I also expect you would be acutely more aware of them than I am.

Bull! Your perceptions have nothing to do with how well you play!
I'd love to hear anything that didn't sit right with you, no matter what it is!
We're family! If you can't say it, who can?
Thank you guys for the respect your showing me, but really, I'm not looking for that. I want honesty!

[keep it simple]

Bull! Your perceptions have nothing to do with how well you play!
I'd love to hear anything that didn't sit right with you, no matter what it is!
We're family! If you can't say it, who can?
Thank you guys for the respect your showing me, but really, I'm not looking for that. I want honesty!Nope, I just listened to the whole thing again and there's truly nothing I'd change. You do a great job, get used to it! It's "real" music and you put in a great performance. Even your unscripted beat deviation on the jungle number works for me. That's the sort of performance I learn from, not seek to change. That's as honest as honest can be from me Larry. Believe me, if it was crap, or there was anything I'd change, I'd say so.

[Pollyanna]

Bull! Your perceptions have nothing to do with how well you play!
I'd love to hear anything that didn't sit right with you, no matter what it is!
We're family! If you can't say it, who can?
Thank you guys for the respect your showing me, but really, I'm not looking for that. I want honesty!

Bull back atcha! :) Okay, listening back now to I'm Gonna Build Me a Woman. You're getting pretty jazzy in your old age, aren't you? Lots of light dexterous stuff going on.

But I felt things didn't quite gel during the guitar solo - like your backbeat was a tad heavy for the guitar, which was quite sweet and mellow. Meanwhile there's old Mack Truck Lazza still roaring down the musical freeway. Later, you went for a monster fill in one of the harp solos that was ok, but not at the standard you maintained during most of the song. Otherwise it was a succession of really enjoyable sounds and grooves. I played the song out of duty so I could offer feedback but was soon just listening for pleasure.

Not sure I fully endorse the attitude expressed in the lyrics, tho :)

[larryace]

I can't believe you would say theses things to me Polly. Too jazzy? Mack Truck? Crappy fill? WTF? How dare you!

I'M KIDDING! Lighten up Francis! I'm being snarky!
Actually my real feeling on your critique is:

Thank you!

Now there's something I can use!

I take it you think the dexterious stuff was too much. Fair enough. I think a straight backbeat to that song would be too bland considering the bass player. The bass player in that band is very basic, and he plays very unconfidently, so it leaves a lot of room to stretch out, and on that song I interject some offbeat stuff, because he plays very strait with no frills and just doesn't use much space. If he were a busier player, I wouldn't be as busy on that song.
In my other band it's the opposite. That guy plays lotsa notes and I can't do too much with him.
Somebody always has to "stay home" in the rhythm section and the bass player in Blue Bizness, Dick, doesn't have a car, if you will pardon the bad metaphor. He is an anti spotlight kind of player, kinda timid actually. So my drumming is free to take more chances than with most other bass players I know.
Will definitely rethink the dynamics during Mikes guitar solo. His leads are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get (unlike Zig the singer/guitar/slide/harp player's leads. He's easy to read and can repeat leads. Mikes leads are like snowflakes, no 2 alike). Hard to predict beforehand where Mike will go, so I don't waver. Perhaps I will try to feel him out better in the future.
The 16th triplet snare/tom fill around the kit at the peak of the harp lead...is one of my more over the top tom fills that I rarely do, but I think it's a good place for it. Maybe too many notes though. (I play like 24 notes and a crash in about 2 seconds). Maybe I can cut it in half, start it later to leave a little more space. It may come off better. See that's what I'm talking about. Imagining it, I think that would sound better for sure, cutting that fill in half. Thanks Pol!
See that wasn't so hard.
And yea, that's one of our most politically incorrect songs.
Thanks again Pol. I value your perceptions. Muuuah!

[Pollyanna]

I take it you think the dexterious stuff was too much.

You take wrong. I just noticed that your playing in this collection is a bit more ornate than in the last one. I like jazziness and jazzy sounds and textures a lot, especially in structured music. It's one of the frustrations I have with jazz - the sounds, textures and feels are so wonderful, but then it so often noodles on and on and on ...

I like your approach a lot in this music.

Fair enough. I think a straight backbeat to that song would be too bland considering the bass player. The bass player in that band is very basic, and he plays very unconfidently, so it leaves a lot of room to stretch out, and on that song I interject some offbeat stuff, because he plays very strait with no frills and just doesn't use much space. If he were a busier player, I wouldn't be as busy on that song.

In my other band it's the opposite. That guy plays lotsa notes and I can't do too much with him.
Somebody always has to "stay home" in the rhythm section and the bass player in Blue Bizness, Dick, doesn't have a car, if you will pardon the bad metaphor. He is an anti spotlight kind of player, kinda timid actually. So my drumming is free to take more chances than with most other bass players I know.

Ah, bass / drum relationships. Our bassist likes to stretch out. If he plays more runs consistently I'll be trying to catch them but for now I'm the one who stays home, doing the cooking, the ironing and putting antiseptic on the kids' scrapes.


Will definitely rethink the dynamics during Mikes guitar solo. His leads are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get (unlike Zig the singer/guitar/slide/harp player's leads. He's easy to read and can repeat leads. Mikes leads are like snowflakes, no 2 alike). Hard to predict beforehand where Mike will go, so I don't waver. Perhaps I will try to feel him out better in the future.

Okay, you're off the hook :) Our soloists do that to me too. Like when I posted that swing version of Summertime our piano player's solo was so small and timid that even the few simple, very quiet comping snare notes I played sounded like overplaying.

Adjusting like that and not sounding like an apology is tricky. You lay down the first backbeat or two - bam! bam! - and then realise the soloist is getting all tinkly on you. If you drop waaay down straight away it can easily sound lame (no no! I was actually just playing some big kicks to lead in - I meant to do that, it was a plot device!). Gradually easing down is an option but I really don't know what's best. What do you think?


The 16th triplet snare/tom fill around the kit at the peak of the harp lead...is one of my more over the top tom fills that I rarely do, but I think it's a good place for it. Maybe too many notes though. (I play like 24 notes and a crash in about 2 seconds). Maybe I can cut it in half, start it later to leave a little more space. It may come off better.

It seems a little too quiet - an element of dropout to my ear. No big deal; it definitely didn't sound bad. You play very well, so I have to be pedantic to critique. Something a bit catchier might hit the spot more but no one is going to feel pain if you keep playing the fill the same way.

Just listened again to Jamming in the Jungle. I can't find fault in it. I just listened to the song, not the drumming, and waited to see if anything jarred. Nothing did. BTW, I quite like your bassist - I've heard a lot of blues bassists take that Noel Redding Rock of Gibraltar role. Looks like you're turning into his Mitch Mitchell :)

[bobacwrd]

Nice Playing, Love the selection of material.........Is that a A custom 22" ride you playing????

Sorry for taking so long to respond to your words, and I thank you for them. I don't get on this forum as much as I'd like, do to time constraints but to answer your question the ride is a Sabian 22" Paragon. I like the thickness, sound and ping I get from that cymbal. I also use nylon tips for that same reason (The Ping).

[bobacwrd]

Sorry for taking so long to respond to your words, and I thank you for them. I don't get on this forum as much as I'd like, do to time constraints but to answer your question the ride is a Sabian 22" Paragon. I like the thickness, sound and ping I get from that cymbal. I also use nylon tips for that same reason (The Ping).

In case anyone was listening here are a couple more vids.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNbvSPkFVUM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCmTv3frRLs&feature=related

[witchcraftery]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yl2kwD3M-g

:)

[Wavelength]

Some non-Kumu videos this time. The three first ones are older videos shot with a camcorder and recorded with two mics. The last one is new and it was shot with a digital camera...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edmxTWUKk7g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41NVK-c_x2E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCTQyThkFWY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwqghiHfdug

[jordster1991]

Hey this is my new band and i want some opinions on our original song
http://www.youtube.com/user/jordster.../1/BgrhXclgiJM
thanks
Jordan

[yesdog]

Hey this is my new band and i want some opinions on our original song
http://www.youtube.com/user/jordster.../1/BgrhXclgiJM
thanks
Jordan
Hey jordster1991, Why don't you start a thread of your own instead of stomping on everyone's threads. They started there own thread so people can listen to them. Not you.
Just some friendly advice.