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thelimpingtoad
09-04-2009, 08:21 PM
http://www.amazon.com/New-Breed-II-Gary-Chester/dp/0793500044
I never realized there was a sequel to the New Breed. Has anyone used it? Is it any good?
Also... i saw that they now sell the New Breed with a cd? What's on the cd? is it something worth having or is it just bs to add $?
I think i might pick up the New Breed II if you guys have used it at all and think its worth my time (i've played through a lot of the first book with almost all the systems and thought it was amazing)... I keep meaning to break out the first book and worth through some more of it again but just never got around to it. I think i have it sitting near my practice kit at home.

dairyairman
09-04-2009, 08:50 PM
i didn't know there was a sequel either. did you read the customer reviews on amazon? those people seem to think it's pretty difficult and not for beginners or even intermediates. i'm tempted to get it myself just to see if i can play anything in it.

Three
09-04-2009, 09:30 PM
I have the first one with the CD.


The CD contains an interview with Gary Chester talking about the concepts of New Breed. I think I've listened to it about once - if I remember rightly, everything he says in the interview is written in the book anyway - almost word for word at times.


No idea what's in the sequel book though, I've never bothered with it as there's more than enough material in the first one to keep you going for eternity!

thelimpingtoad
09-04-2009, 09:37 PM
there's more than enough material in the first one to keep you going for eternity!
Yeah.. no kidding... that's why I was intrigued by a sequel and wanted to see if anyone else could elaborate exactly what might be in it.
When i said i worked through most of it... i mean i've used all the systems at least one or two ways with all the exercises... but obviously you could just keep doing it with all 4 limbs and stuff..
So no point to the CD but anyone know of the second book?

FunkyJazzer
09-04-2009, 11:13 PM
It's very much in the same vein as the first one, but...more difficult? It looks at other styles such as jazz and some odd time stuff too. Looks fantastic.

Gretsch09
09-04-2009, 11:36 PM
What kind of stuff is in the first New Breed? I'm looking for a book to increase my left foot independence so I can incorporate more polyrhythms.

spleen
09-04-2009, 11:43 PM
For me, the CD is a real gem because of the nostalgia. It contains a previously unreleased audio recording of Danny Gottlieb interviewing Gary, one of the most prolific drummers of all time (check out his discography: http://www.gary-chester.com/discography/extended.html ). Of course, we lost Gary quite a while back, so I think it's kind of cool to "eavesdrop" on a studio legend who's hanging out, talking about drumming.

spleen

Toby_Jackson
09-05-2009, 05:17 PM
New Breed 2 is the most difficult book I've ever encountered. It's flat-out ridiculous in some places. The concept is still the same - systems + melodies - but it gets you reading THREE DIFFERENT MELODIES AT THE SAME TIME. Mindboggling stuff, but if you're a coordination freak, this is definitely the book for you.

thelimpingtoad
09-10-2009, 01:51 PM
What kind of stuff is in the first New Breed? I'm looking for a book to increase my left foot independence so I can incorporate more polyrhythms.

New Breed will do that for you... if practiced properly. The concept is that they give you a set of "systems" that use 3 limbs for the pattern.... then they give you pages of "melodies" which should be played with the 4th limb. So you could play systems with hands and right foot then perform the melodies with the left foot. :)
This book is greate for increasing all around independence.

New Breed 2 is the most difficult book I've ever encountered. It's flat-out ridiculous in some places. The concept is still the same - systems + melodies - but it gets you reading THREE DIFFERENT MELODIES AT THE SAME TIME. Mindboggling stuff, but if you're a coordination freak, this is definitely the book for you.
Awesome... I'm totally going to get it sometime. New Breed was my favorite drum book of all time so I think the sequel would be good to get.

Gretsch09
09-18-2009, 02:10 AM
Oooo I'm excited to get New Breed 1! Sounds cool!

Davo-London
09-28-2009, 09:38 AM
Buyer beware.

It's extremely difficult.

My old tutor had NBII and it would challenge him.

Davo

samthebeat
10-05-2009, 03:07 AM
Oooo I'm excited to get New Breed 1! Sounds cool!

dont do it, it will ruin your life as in you if you ever want to finish it you will have to give up all fun stuff like playing computer games, girls, and telivision. hahah