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yesdog
08-08-2009, 02:24 PM
I Just wanted to say I think one of the best educational tools for practice is recording yourself with or with out drumless tracks or loops. I have been playing drums for 30 years
and have recorded with alot of bands. but this is the first time i have actually recorded my self for practice. it really makes you here all of your inperfections like falling behind or going ahead of the beat. it only works when using a click. It uncovers alot of things obout drumming I had now idea how much i would rush though a drum fill. or have your tempo get
slow when playing softly(dynamics). I think everyone who whants to get an honest oppinion of your playing record your self with a click track and play a groove and maybe 1 fill that last for a bar of time. its amazing on how think somthing sounds until you hear it.
I have been practicing this for about 3 months and my band is so much tighter and i am in the pocket. So if you want to improve your timing and get a deep pocket. I highly recomend
adding this to your practice routine. I feel it is vital for young amd intermediate drummers to do this.

2bsticks
08-08-2009, 02:56 PM
Could not agree more. A real ear opener. I use the Zoom H2 recorder. Great little device.

yesdog
08-08-2009, 03:16 PM
I had some mad money stashed. I bought a nice behringer 8 channel mixer and a samson
7 piece drum mic kit i also use mxcraft 4 recording software. i am still trying to get things dialed in.

Nick G.
08-08-2009, 03:25 PM
whats the best way to record yourself on a limited budget?

jameswadewilson
08-08-2009, 03:45 PM
I run the Vdrums straight into the mike in to a laptop and record using the free Digital Audio Workstation Audacity. It's pretty good audio software and the price is great.

You may have good luck using a cheap webcam mike or headset mike run into a PC for acoustic drums. The quality won't be great, but it should be able to tell you a lot.

First time I recorded myself I almost stopped playing! :)


whats the best way to record yourself on a limited budget?

audiotech
08-08-2009, 04:48 PM
I run the Vdrums straight into the mike in to a laptop and record using the free Digital Audio Workstation Audacity. It's pretty good audio software and the price is great.

You may have good luck using a cheap webcam mike or headset mike run into a PC for acoustic drums. The quality won't be great, but it should be able to tell you a lot.

First time I recorded myself I almost stopped playing! :)


Can you run the line level from the V drums which should be about -20 to -10DB into a mic level input that will accept a -60DB signal? Normally you'll get distortion from input overload, unless the signal is attenuated.

Dennis

jameswadewilson
08-08-2009, 04:56 PM
I kind of wondered about this - the input has a little microphone icon and will work with a headset microphone (passive microphone, no power to amplify it) just fine yet I can plug a line level mp3 player or the Vdrums at medium volume in and it has no problem.

How does it know? :) May these inputs just accept a very large range...

Can you run the line level from the V drums which should be about -20 to -10DB into a mic level input that will accept a -60DB signal? Normally you'll get distortion from input overload, unless the signal is attenuated.

Dennis

Gunnarsen
08-09-2009, 08:41 PM
i have a question about recording myself with audacity.
when i open an mp3 file i want to play along to and just record my drumming, the recorded stuff is always too fast (an no, im not speeding it up!!). mp3 file is at 44100 aswell as the recording and project frequency.
does anyone know what the hell i'm doing wrong?

jameswadewilson
08-10-2009, 01:01 AM
You open the mp3 in Audacity and play it back and it plays back too fast? There is a playback speed control in Audacity, maybe that's the problem?

When I used Audacity to play back an mp3 while I recorded the drums along with the mp3 then played it back I found that the drums were about a quarter second displaced. I'm pretty sure that my playing wasn't that far off... :)

There are latency adjustments for this, but I didn't feel like fooling with learning this at the time and just ran an mp3 player through the brain's Mix In then just recorded the brain's Master Out with Audacity.

You can find out how to set up Audacity properly on their forums, I've just never taken the time.


i have a question about recording myself with audacity.
when i open an mp3 file i want to play along to and just record my drumming, the recorded stuff is always too fast (an no, im not speeding it up!!). mp3 file is at 44100 aswell as the recording and project frequency.
does anyone know what the hell i'm doing wrong?

Sera
08-10-2009, 05:49 PM
First time I recorded myself I almost stopped playing! :)

It's really remorable situation. When you actually hear and realize first time how your comping wonders everywhere, dynamic is what it is and all other little annoyances...

I think that my "evolvement" really started when I saw and hear me playing first time - but it doesn't diminish the emotional pain of that particular moment.

ermghoti
08-10-2009, 06:09 PM
It's really remorable situation.

Really?

http://bp2.blogger.com/_YT0dgFc-qWA/R_TdvivetnI/AAAAAAAAFHc/1MqrnsVT_NQ/s320/remora1.jpg


:D

Gunnarsen
08-10-2009, 09:43 PM
i'm importing the mp3 file, playing it back while recording my drumming on a new track.
the problem is not that my recorded drumming is displaced from the beginning, but the recorded track is played back too fast (my drumming is faster than the mp3 audio track), even though the project rate, the rate of the mp3 file and the rate of the recorded track are all at 44100hz...
but i guess i have to ask on the audacity forums to find out how to set it up.
thank you anyway!


You open the mp3 in Audacity and play it back and it plays back too fast? There is a playback speed control in Audacity, maybe that's the problem?

When I used Audacity to play back an mp3 while I recorded the drums along with the mp3 then played it back I found that the drums were about a quarter second displaced. I'm pretty sure that my playing wasn't that far off... :)

There are latency adjustments for this, but I didn't feel like fooling with learning this at the time and just ran an mp3 player through the brain's Mix In then just recorded the brain's Master Out with Audacity.

You can find out how to set up Audacity properly on their forums, I've just never taken the time.

dairyairman
08-10-2009, 09:56 PM
all i can say is it can be done, because i have definitely done exactly what you're talking about with audacity and it's worked fine for me. i don't remember having to go through any special setup to get it to work either.

Pollyanna
08-11-2009, 04:33 PM
My only problems with Audacity are:

1) I've forgotten how to record from the sound cars, and

2) I can never get those VST plugins to work, even after installing the VST bridge.

But it's a fantastic program for a freebie.

keep it simple
08-11-2009, 04:52 PM
whats the best way to record yourself on a limited budget?

As introduced by 2bsticks, get yourself a little Zoom H2 recorder. I use one for band practices & they're superb. For the price of one decent mic, you get a full blown 24 bit recorder with 4 built in mics in one portable package. You can edit, bounce, convert wav to mp3, record stereo or surround and burn cd's straight from your pc without any interface or software issues. There's one big advantage above mic's, desk, etc apart from setup & portability, it records you exactly how you actually sound. There's no adjustment, it tells the truth!