View Full Version : Kick Drum Mic Stand Issue
GrimmReefer
05-22-2009, 09:13 PM
Hello,
I am having an issue with live micing of my kick drum. I am sure I am not the only one but i am hoping someone here has found a solution that would work.
I have the normal type stands for the kick mic. I have the one with 3 legs and the one with the solid metal base. Both boom stands. The problem is the boom itself. No matter how i set it up, the boom shoots out away from the drum. One bump from the lead singer or guitar player and the mic shoots out of the kick and is history until i at least the end of that song.
I guess my first idea is to get one of those mic stand goosnecks. Question is, are they sturdy enough to stay in place and hold the mic so its not resting on my port hole. This idea would at least allow me to put the stand safley next to my kick and wrap the gooseneck around the edge.
Just looking for some input here. Any ideas are welcomed.
Thanks,
MykeyInChains
05-23-2009, 01:31 PM
I had a similar issue to you, although I managed to find a small "desktop" mic stand for a couple bucks at the local music store. Something like this: http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Musicians-Gear-Low-Profile-Die-Cast-Mic-Stand?sku=451037 . Well, this did away with the huge height of a normal stand, and you can easily put a mic boom on it, but yes, the boom is much too long. So I considered cutting the boom off, but I use a Shure Beta 52, which is a very heavy mic. It would easily topple the mic stand with no counterweight at all. I took a normal heavy base off of the normal height mic stand and put it on the short "desktop" stand and that enabled the base to stay firmly planted on the ground. The threads are identical on the bases. I am planning on cutting the boom off where I need in the upcoming days to streamline the setup. I'll keep you posted. That is the best, cheapest solution I have come up with.
If you have some skills, you can make an internal mic mount.
Then you have no problems, unless your lead singer sits in your kick drum :)
Bram
Deathmetalconga
05-24-2009, 08:01 AM
Booms are overkill and inviting someone to trip on them. I think desktop mics are best for this. I used to have an internal bass drum mic and now I have rigged up one of those LP claws on the bass drum hoop and I keep my Shure Beta 52 pointed at the bass drum. So, I have no footprint at all!
Numberonefan
05-24-2009, 05:28 PM
A decent idea for no footprint would be http://www.kellyshu.com/ . I have not tried one in real life but we played around with one in the store. It’s a good idea that seems to work.
I think the traditional table top mic stand put’s the mic further into harms way. When the kids did a local TV show the sound guy used this type seen here.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1948035&id=50755017063
A short boom stand off to the side works well for us set up like this.
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=382766585&albumID=962494&imageID=14280235
Is this how your setting yours up?
Or out front like this?
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=382766585&albumID=343826&imageID=2677179
I also have a modified version of the table top stand that works well.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2050733&id=50755017063
GrimmReefer
05-26-2009, 03:59 PM
Thanks so much guys for the responses. Here is what i am currently using.
http://www.guitarcenter.com/On-Stage-Stands-MS7311B-Kick-Drum-Amp-Mic-Stand-100021051-i1171139.gc
This is something I was thinking of trying. http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-MUS-6576-LIST?SRC=D0401BZ0HAMS0000&utm_source=bizrate&utm_medium=feed&
This would allow me to tuck the base of the stand next to my kick and out of the way and have the gooseneck wrap around the head and place the mic in the port hole.
Does anyone have experience with one of these? Do the goosenecks move around while playing? (go limp? for a lack of a better word)
Thanks again,
Meat the beat
05-26-2009, 05:03 PM
Easiest way is to either just use the straight part of your stand onto the mic clip or just angle the boom so its parallel with the front head and tuck the base around the side of the drum. Depends on how you wanna mic it tho... If you do us it inside get an internal mount & be done with it for good.
timmdrum
05-27-2009, 11:05 PM
A decent idea for no footprint would be http://www.kellyshu.com/ . I have not tried one in real life but we played around with one in the store. It’s a good idea that seems to work.
It does work, beautifully. I got one about a week & a half ago. I'm about to post a new thread about it.
bonzolead
05-27-2009, 11:34 PM
I had a similar issue to you, although I managed to find a small "desktop" mic stand for a couple bucks at the local music store. Something like this: http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Musicians-Gear-Low-Profile-Die-Cast-Mic-Stand?sku=451037 . Well, this did away with the huge height of a normal stand, and you can easily put a mic boom on it, but yes, the boom is much too long. So I considered cutting the boom off, but I use a Shure Beta 52, which is a very heavy mic. It would easily topple the mic stand with no counterweight at all. I took a normal heavy base off of the normal height mic stand and put it on the short "desktop" stand and that enabled the base to stay firmly planted on the ground. The threads are identical on the bases. I am planning on cutting the boom off where I need in the upcoming days to streamline the setup. I'll keep you posted. That is the best, cheapest solution I have come up with.
I had the same same issue until I changed to a desktop stand like Mykey suggested.
Keep Swattin,
Bonzolead
canada_rokzz
05-28-2009, 07:21 AM
Here is my "Best of Both Worlds" solution (wow that sounds like Van Haggar lol)
http://www.progearwarehouse.com/Yorkville-ms-108 (http://www.progearwarehouse.com/Yorkville-ms-108)
It has an adjustable boom with length and height adjustment, and I run my mic sideways so I have virtually no footprint as well... You can get the mic well inside through a 4" hole
http://www.apexelectronics.com/images/products/accessories/ms-108.jpg
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