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brady
05-11-2009, 05:05 AM
I recently joined a band that occasionally does the Buddy Holly song 'Peggy Sue'. I was wondering if any of you experts out there knew how to play this correctly. I've heard that it's just paradiddles on the toms but I think I hear it as sextuplets. I could be wrong... I could fake my way through it using doubles, but I would like to take the time to play this song correctly. Has anyone played this before or transcribed it? I'm a little lost on this one.
GRUNTERSDAD
05-11-2009, 05:20 AM
Having just listened to the song I'm sure its singles. But if you can do doubles or para's and make it sound original it really doesn't matter. I'm listening to very few accents so I would concentrate on that and not the sticking.
http://www.jango.com/music/Buddy+Holly?l=0
brady
05-11-2009, 03:02 PM
I thought it was singles...I had only heard that it was paradiddles. If it is, they're really smooth.
So it is in sixteenths then? It's hard for me to hear it correctly. I have been working the accent part of it; which basically seem to move from one tom to another. Or more correctly, from/to the snare with the snares off according to a video clip I saw. But I couldn't make out the sticking by watching it...too fast.
bermuda
05-11-2009, 03:29 PM
It is 16ths done as paradiddles, needless though they seem for that. Don't forget that drummers who took lessons were very schooled as to sticking - as if they'd end up in marching band - so I guess it's not so unusual. Refer also to Ringo playing L rrL rrL rrL on Get Back, which has a certain feel you don't get with R rlR rlR rlR (right hand on 8ths.)
Bermuda
larryace
05-11-2009, 03:46 PM
I 2nd the 16th note paradiddles. I saw an old video and it showed Jerry Allison (I think that's his name) playing paradiddles on that cut. Although you could play singles and no one would be the wiser, but paradiddles are just so cool.
brady
05-11-2009, 04:14 PM
It is 16ths done as paradiddles, needless though they seem for that. Don't forget that drummers who took lessons were very schooled as to sticking - as if they'd end up in marching band - so I guess it's not so unusual. Refer also to Ringo playing L rrL rrL rrL on Get Back, which has a certain feel you don't get with R rlR rlR rlR (right hand on 8ths.)
Bermuda
Oh man!! I just drew my first response from Mr. Bermuda!! Sweet!! Truly a privilege... I love your work, sir.
Thanks for the input! Now I just need to get my singles nice and clean up to that speed...
Chazz
05-11-2009, 04:20 PM
I remember an old interview with Buddy (recorded of course)
or maybe the a Documentry on tv...
this song was played using "double paradiddles'
T.Underhill
05-11-2009, 05:11 PM
He's playing the snare (mostly) and tom here. With paradiddles!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQiIMuOKIzY
mrchattr
05-11-2009, 07:51 PM
The song, as Berumda and others have said, is played with paradiddles. Supposedly he originally played a straight beat to the song, and then Buddy heard him warming up with paradiddles and asked him to play that part instead.
The rumor is that the song was originally called Mary Lou, but Jerry asked Buddy to change it to Peggy Sue after a girl that had dumped him and he wanted back...and that he would only play the paradiddle part if Buddy agreed, so he did. I don't know if the part about him only playing the part if the name change is true, but I will tell you this...Jerry married Peggy Sue, who took him back after hearing this song.
larryace
05-11-2009, 10:45 PM
T Underhills video link proves it was single paradiddles, right? That's what I'm seeing/hearing...
larryace
05-11-2009, 10:46 PM
The song, as Berumda and others have said, is played with paradiddles. Supposedly he originally played a straight beat to the song, and then Buddy heard him warming up with paradiddles and asked him to play that part instead.
The rumor is that the song was originally called Mary Lou, but Jerry asked Buddy to change it to Peggy Sue after a girl that had dumped him and he wanted back...and that he would only play the paradiddle part if Buddy agreed, so he did. I don't know if the part about him only playing the part if the name change is true, but I will tell you this...Jerry married Peggy Sue, who took him back after hearing this song.
I love those behind the scenes stories
brady
05-11-2009, 11:29 PM
I love those behind the scenes stories
So Buddy didn't change the lyrics because Sam Beckett suggested he change it from 'piggy suey'? *
* (Obscure Quantum Leap reference.)
Yeah, I love the story behind this song too. And I'm such a huge fan of Buddy Holly, which is why I really want to play this sing as perfectly as I can.
RogerLudwig
05-14-2009, 02:30 AM
According to the Idiot's Guide to Drumming, it was straight single paradiddles: RLRR LRLL RLRR LRLL, etc. played on a snare with the wires off. The author also says the Hal Blaine copied the beat for Tommy Roe's Shiela
I also read, where I can't remember, that it was a combination of single, double and triple paradiddles. I'll see if I can dig out the reference.
bobdadruma
05-14-2009, 02:43 AM
I've always used paradiddles. I put some double paradiddles in on some nights. It depends on how well I'm playing that eve. I've been playing the song for many years now. That is what works for me. keep in mind that I started out in drum and bugle corps.
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