Good examples of Phrasing

[ryanlikealion]

Posted a thread on phrasing and comping a few months back abd got some excellent replies.

One more question i'd like to ask on the subject of phrasing is:

Where can i hear the best examples of phrasing in a piece of music?

Not talking just jazz music but anything - rock, latin, soul, funk.

Just looking for a few starting points (i've realised that im not listening to enough music lately!), as i want to become very competent at phrasing and find listening can be a very good way of learning.

[davidr]

The intro to Queens of the Stone Age - Song for the Dead.

[Wavelength]

Posted a thread on phrasing and comping a few months back abd got some excellent replies.

One more question i'd like to ask on the subject of phrasing is:

Where can i hear the best examples of phrasing in a piece of music?

Not talking just jazz music but anything - rock, latin, soul, funk.

Just looking for a few starting points (i've realised that im not listening to enough music lately!), as i want to become very competent at phrasing and find listening can be a very good way of learning.

Have you really understood what phrasing means? Basically, it means the interpretation of musical material. Whenever you're playing, you're phrasing. The same musical material can be phrased in many different ways; change of dynamics, orchestration, rhythm and timbre changes the phrasing. For example, you can phrase eighth notes straight or shuffled -- and the shuffle can be further phrased in triplets, dotted eighths and sixteenths or anywhere in between.

That being said, you shouldn't be looking for "best examples of phrasing", but rather "best examples of different ways of phrasing". Listen to some bossa nova, then some samba, then some Cuban son and rumba, then some "modern" straight eighth jazz, then some uptempo bebop, then some 50's rock & roll, then some 2000's metal... They're all going to be different in phrasing, and you need to hear and understand the differences.

[davidr]

Have you really understood what phrasing means? Basically, it means the interpretation of musical material. Whenever you're playing, you're phrasing. The same musical material can be phrased in many different ways; change of dynamics, orchestration, rhythm and timbre changes the phrasing. For example, you can phrase eighth notes straight or shuffled -- and the shuffle can be further phrased in triplets, dotted eighths and sixteenths or anywhere in between.

That being said, you shouldn't be looking for "best examples of phrasing", but rather "best examples of different ways of phrasing". Listen to some bossa nova, then some samba, then some Cuban son and rumba, then some "modern" straight eighth jazz, then some uptempo bebop, then some 50's rock & roll, then some 2000's metal... They're all going to be different in phrasing, and you need to hear and understand the differences.

Phrasing is making phrases. A good musical phrase is one that makes sense like a good sentence. I is a self-contained section of music which is coherent in itself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrase_(music).

[Wavelength]

Phrasing is making phrases.

It also means the interpretation of said phrases.

[denisri]

Hi
A very good book on Phasing/Soloing..which one can develop his/her own style of phasing after mastering concepts phase presented is Motivic Drumset Soloing by Terry O'Mahoney...The book contains are less a year of study....put together by a very smart person and great drummer..Also ckeck out Robert Kaufman's books on the Art of Drumming. All great books. Denis

[larryace]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, you may not agree with what I think is a good example of phrasing. Wave nailed it, all music is phrased, one way or another. Is it a good way of phrasing it or is it a bad way of phrasing it? Totally subjective, depending upon the interpretation of the listener.