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ENRICO
02-15-2009, 10:50 PM
HI , I really need help with this!!!!!

I am going to buy a custom built kit ; the company give me the option to choose the wood tipe. I thougth that I was't going to be difficult , basically : birch or maple were my primary options .

but they offer : birch , maple , ash , mohany , oak .and the posibility to combine woods and choose the number of plies for each shell.

the sound I want : like birch , but with a little more low end and proyection , and loud as possible!!!

I have been playing for 12 years and I did a lot of reserch , but there are some things that I could't find:
what's the difference in sound if one wood tipe is in the middle , exterior or inner plies : some say that the harder wood should be in the middle (like in the yamaha phoenix ) and other that the harder sholud be in the inner plies to increase the high frecuences.
what's the difference between a drum constructed of two woods like these: 1- AAABBB
2- ABABAB

right now I am thinking about a 6 ply birch/ mohany without reinforcemente rings ,


but, please tell me your opinion /experience

Wavelength
02-15-2009, 10:53 PM
Get thin birch shells, then mic them up and run them through a PA system. All sorted!

razorx
02-15-2009, 10:57 PM
birch/bubinga. There ya go.

ENRICO
02-15-2009, 11:01 PM
Get thin birch shells, then mic them up and run them through a PA system. All sorted!

lol, but I want them to sound the way I want without mics ,

really , any suggestion?

ENRICO
02-15-2009, 11:02 PM
birch/bubinga. There ya go.

thanks for the advice , but they don't offer bubinga

trkdrmr
02-15-2009, 11:05 PM
If the mahogany is santos or Honduran mahogany, birch/mahogany would work the same way as birch/bubinga.

drumtechdad
02-15-2009, 11:35 PM
If I were going to buy a custom kit, I'd want to wait until I was experienced enough to be able to answer this question for myself.

razorx
02-15-2009, 11:46 PM
If I were going to buy a custom kit, I'd want to wait until I was experienced enough to be able to answer this question for myself.

me tooo. I played mahogandy/basswood shells for a few years and wen i decided to get new drums i went with birch/basswood and was slightly disapointed that there wasn't a huge sound difference. Now when my dad got his maple drums with way bigger sizes i was like oh wow!

trkdrmr
02-15-2009, 11:49 PM
me tooo. I played mahogandy/basswood shells for a few years and wen i decided to get new drums i went with birch/basswood and was slightly disapointed that there wasn't a huge sound difference. Now when my dad got his maple drums with way bigger sizes i was like oh wow!

Problem is, Philippine mahogany and basswood are both very soft, Asian Birch is *slightly* harder, but you still have basswood.

The Mahogany he has in South America is roughly as dense (or denser) than bubinga. And if it's birch from the Americas or Scandinavia, it's much harder than Asian birch.

Compare *any* Asian birch kit to a Sonor Scandi birch kit and you will hear the difference.

harryconway
02-16-2009, 12:47 AM
If I were going to buy a custom kit, I'd want to wait until I was experienced enough to be able to answer this question for myself.
I'll second that. Parts of the puzzle you haven't told us. What type of music do you play and what sizes are you getting? You may want to explore mixing woods this way, a maple kick and oak toms. Research the Pearl Reference kit, and the Masterwork series, for example. Your drum builder should have basic information to give you as well, otherwise, I'd look for a different drum builder.