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jerry
12-12-2008, 12:34 AM
OK THEN
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF USA CUSTOM GRETSCH .I JUST ORDERED A KIT WITH 8X10 8X12 9X13 14X14 AND 16X16 TOMS . 16X22 KICK AND A 6.5 X14 SNARE 20 LUG IN ANTIGUE MAPLE GLOSS.EXPENSIVE YES BUT WOW I THINK THEY WILL BE AWESOME.SHOULD BE HERE FEB. OR MARCH .WILL DO PICKS.DOES ANY ONE OUT THER PLAY THEM ? AND HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM?

GRUNTERSDAD
12-12-2008, 12:39 AM
Well my avatar says it all about Gretsch, and we'll expect photos when they are arrive. Let me say nicely that typing in all caps will bother some people on this forum. Just a thought.
Remember photos on receipt please. Thanks and welcome.

jerry
12-13-2008, 01:07 AM
sorry no more all caps for me .but what about my Gretsch drums guys ? what do you think?

AlexM
12-13-2008, 01:20 AM
I'm more impressed with mine everyday. Sound good in a wide range of tuning, and very easy to tune at that. Two words, Remo Ambassidors.

tbmills
12-13-2008, 01:34 AM
is this the same dude as last time. i thought we talked about this.

LTNINGFan
12-13-2008, 01:37 AM
I really like the looks of Gruntersdad's double bass kit in another thread. Very nice :)

GRUNTERSDAD
12-13-2008, 02:50 AM
Someone stole my second bass drum.. I don't have a double bass, sorry.

Ian Williams
12-13-2008, 03:24 AM
Some Gretsch pictures. Cindy Blackman + Tony Williams, on drums.

All the Best,

trkdrmr
12-13-2008, 03:43 AM
Some Gretsch pictures. Cindy Blackman + Tony Williams, on drums.

All the Best,

I have a poster (from drumbum.com) of Tony and that yellow kit in an 80's Gretsch ad. (discontinued)
http://store.drumbum.com/media/tony-williams-poster-sm.jpg

oops
12-13-2008, 03:57 AM
Why did I think Tony was playing a big yellow DW kit in that picture?

Anyway, I'm interested in buying into the Gretsch Renown series. We'll see if it happens.

LTNINGFan
12-13-2008, 04:01 AM
Someone stole my second bass drum.. I don't have a double bass, sorry.

AAHHH!!!! When did that happen?

Ian Williams
12-13-2008, 04:08 AM
Someone stole my second bass drum.. I don't have a double bass, sorry.

No worries, here is one for you...my friend.

Cheers,

GRUNTERSDAD
12-13-2008, 04:19 AM
AAHHH!!!! When did that happen?

I think Drumsword has the double bass Gretsch. But I will accept all donations.

LTNINGFan
12-13-2008, 04:29 AM
I think Drumsword has the double bass Gretsch. But I will accept all donations.

Yes, you are correct sir. Sorry for the mix-up. Long day indeed.....

Drumsword, if youre out there, nice double bass Gretsch kit, lol!!!!

jerry
12-13-2008, 06:18 PM
thank you fellow drummers .i do appreciate the feed back.pics when i get my kit .loved the picture of Tony and his drums .my drums will be antique maple .in 8x10,8x12,9x13,14x14,16x16,toms 16x22 kick 6.5x14 20 lug snare.also i am having them put coated ambasador heads on tops and bottoms of all toms and base drum for a change .should be interesting to tune.any suggestions on tuning ?

Naigewron
12-13-2008, 07:04 PM
Why ask for advice and opinions on a kit you've already ordered? Just curious :)

jerry
12-13-2008, 08:02 PM
Why ask for advice and opinions on a kit you've already ordered? Just curious :)
no opinion on tuning

harryconway
12-14-2008, 06:31 AM
Gretsch......hmmmmm. Name sounds familiar.

jerry
12-14-2008, 04:19 PM
Gretsch......hmmmmm. Name sounds familiar.

nice kit man .thank you for that mine are being built as we speak for delivery in feb. or march will post pics.

GRUNTERSDAD
12-14-2008, 04:23 PM
Gretsch......hmmmmm. Name sounds familiar.

Harry how old is that set? I remember my old Gretsch with the tuning lugs on the bass, and the drum key holder built into the snare shell.

harryconway
12-14-2008, 10:53 PM
That would be 70's era, Stop Sign Badge #1.

GRUNTERSDAD
12-14-2008, 11:03 PM
Thank you Sir......muchly

Drums558
12-14-2008, 11:07 PM
Nice kit Harry.

My favorite kit to date was a Gretsch USA Custom. (Square badge) You cant go wrong with these drums.

Mike

jerry
12-15-2008, 08:55 AM
Awesome kit Harry
Thank you .i see in the background there is another Gretsch kick drum.another kit?

trkdrmr
12-15-2008, 09:02 AM
That would be 70's era, Stop Sign Badge #1.

That's a pretty finish that other companies might just wrap. What's the official color name.. like Citrus or orange nitron?

harryconway
12-15-2008, 11:15 AM
That's a pretty finish that other companies might just wrap. What's the official color name.. like Citrus or orange nitron?
Not quite sure what the "official" name was. It's a Jasper/Fibes shell, with a vintage "honey/amber" lacquer. Back 10 years ago (or so), my buddy Lenny "made" this kit. Fibes had bought jasper. Lenny wanted a Gretsch kit (big Charlie Watts fan) this color, only Gretsch wasn't making it any more. Fibes was. He had all (or most of) the Gretsch parts already. He just needed the right color shells. $1300 later, he had a brand new Fibes kit. Several man hours after that, he had Jasper shells dressed with Gretsch hardware. Murphy's law, Gretsch produced this finish again, for a while. But still, you don't get 70's era Stop Sign badges. And as far as I can tell, both Fibes and Jasper are "dead in the water" again. Awesome kit Harry
Thank you .i see in the background there is another Gretsch kick drum.another kit?
I'll tell Lenny you said that. That kick in the shadows is a 20" Luddie clear maple 3 ply. Part of a 20, 12, 14 kit.

aydee
12-15-2008, 11:28 AM
Gretsch......hmmmmm. Name sounds familiar.

Harry, where did that come from? Did you always have that kit?

harryconway
12-15-2008, 12:10 PM
Harry, where did that come from? See post #26 for the short version of a long story. Did you always have that kit? No, but I've known Lenny for 13+ years. Lenny's so much more "interesting" than I am. I figure I'd start posting pictures of some of "his" kits. Being he's computer/camera illiterate. This was just the kit he had set up "Saturday". He's got 10 or 12 (or so).

aydee
12-15-2008, 02:10 PM
See post #26 for the short version of a long story.

Dyslexia, here I come. Sorry about that, Harry.

Lenny's so much more "interesting" than I am.

......I doubt it.

KONA
02-01-2009, 07:36 AM
Harry how old is that set? I remember my old Gretsch with the tuning lugs on the bass, and the drum key holder built into the snare shell.

I bought a Gretsch (Round Badge) kit new in 1969 and it had tuning lugs and a drum key holder in the snare too.

This is one of only two photos I have of the kit and both photos show the new Premier 2004 snare drum I traded away my Gretsch for. But I do remember that cool drum key holder in the snare.

The kit (without cymbals - but included pedal, hatstand and cymbal stands) cost me under $1,200 in 1969.

KONA
02-01-2009, 08:07 AM
thank you fellow drummers .i do appreciate the feed back.pics when i get my kit .loved the picture of Tony and his drums .my drums will be antique maple .in 8x10,8x12,9x13,14x14,16x16,toms 16x22 kick 6.5x14 20 lug snare.also i am having them put coated ambasador heads on tops and bottoms of all toms and base drum for a change .should be interesting to tune.any suggestions on tuning ?

That will be one hell-of-a-shellpack when it comes! I love that finish. Just before I bought my Renown shellpack I contacted the Canadian Gretsch Rep. and he sent me a "ring" of sample shellpack sections (about 2x3") with various finishes. The Nitro Celluloss finishes are absolutely stunning!

Can't wait to see your photos.
That finish hardens with age too.

Your Antique Maple Nitro Cellulose Gloss finish !

KONA
02-01-2009, 09:16 AM
thank you fellow drummers .i do appreciate the feed back.pics when i get my kit .loved the picture of Tony and his drums .my drums will be antique maple .in 8x10,8x12,9x13,14x14,16x16,toms 16x22 kick 6.5x14 20 lug snare.also i am having them put coated ambasador heads on tops and bottoms of all toms and base drum for a change .should be interesting to tune.any suggestions on tuning ?

Well, maybe try tuning them like Bonham did. He used coated heads top & bottom and tuned his drums very high pitch on the reso heads (all the drums), but not enought to spoil the resonating tone of the drum. I would say just play around with it. Make sure all your heads are seated properly and try the "Bonham" approach. Hey - if you don't like it you can always back em off and start over. I tried that with my Renouns and I really liked the result. All the drums had a nice full - not ringy - tone. However, I now have em tuned JAW. with studio rings on all of them.........now that's "Killer" with my Evans G2 Clear heads.

Hope that helps.

Artstar
02-01-2009, 10:05 AM
U.S. Gretsch are Nitro finishes. Renown and New Classic are polyurethane I believe, and made by NewSound/Taiwan.

U.S. Gretsch also have Gum/Maple 5mm shells by Keller with VSS integrated.

Renown are normal 100% maple. New Classic are actually an awesome diversion of the Gum/Maple but with graduated thickness, unlike the U.S. Customs.


Regarding the U.S. Customs, I think it is an absolute positive that Keller is making the shells.

KONA
02-01-2009, 11:10 AM
U.S. Gretsch are Nitro finishes. Renown and New Classic are polyurethane I believe, and made by NewSound/Taiwan.


Yes - I know the Renown finish is not the same as the USA Custom (Nitro Cellulose) finish. And I don't know how my Renown finish will stand up in the long run. The finish on my drums still looks pretty nice. However; I don't think the Renown finish is anywhere as labor intense as the USA Custom Nitro Gloss finish. I mean have you seen the Making of Gretsch Drums video? No wonder they only turn out less than 20 drums a day!

Artstar
02-01-2009, 11:09 PM
Yes - I know the Renown finish is not the same as the USA Custom (Nitro Cellulose) finish. And I don't know how my Renown finish will stand up in the long run. The finish on my drums still looks pretty nice. However; I don't think the Renown finish is anywhere as labor intense as the USA Custom Nitro Gloss finish. I mean have you seen the Making of Gretsch Drums video? No wonder they only turn out less than 20 drums a day!


I know Kona. I was'nt saying the others are any less quality or anything. In fact, I for one, don't think the Nitro is any better than the best Poly multi coats. I've seen them up close and all that, and it is'nt any deeper, etc.. than a Starclassic, Masters, DW, Yamaha etc...

Yes, I've seen the video, and actually was'nt too impressed with the people in the factory. They are cool drums, literally modern day antiques and I like that Keller shell ALOT, but it just seemed they had some people in there that needed a job., ya know? With the exception of a couple of them. That's o.k., just not to my pre-conceived notion.


Now, have you seen pics of the Tama factory and workers? THOSE PEOPLE I would prefer WAY before the DW people or Gretsch people to make my multi thousand dollar kit. That's just my opinion, and how I feel about it.

KONA
02-02-2009, 08:21 AM
I know Kona. I was'nt saying the others are any less quality or anything. In fact, I for one, don't think the Nitro is any better than the best Poly multi coats. I've seen them up close and all that, and it is'nt any deeper, etc.. than a Starclassic, Masters, DW, Yamaha etc...

Yes, I've seen the video, and actually was'nt too impressed with the people in the factory. They are cool drums, literally modern day antiques and I like that Keller shell ALOT, but it just seemed they had some people in there that needed a job., ya know? With the exception of a couple of them. That's o.k., just not to my pre-conceived notion.


Now, have you seen pics of the Tama factory and workers? THOSE PEOPLE I would prefer WAY before the DW people or Gretsch people to make my multi thousand dollar kit. That's just my opinion, and how I feel about it.


Fair enough.



Yes - the Tama drums are beauties. I especially like their lacquer finishes and the snare drums. I will look at the factory video. I tried and the link I had didn't work.

Do you have a link to the Tama Factory video - I'd love to watch it.

I hear you regarding your comment about the workers in the Gretsch Factory. Don't know what's up with that. But, that being said - they still seem to put out some awesome Custom drums. I would love to drop into the facotry and have a look some day.

There are many brands of drums out there I'd love to own, I just don't have the time or $$ in one life time to do that. I just happen to have a little history with Gretsch drums so that's where my head and heart is right now.
But, again mate - those Tama drums are pretty nice alright.
And - I almost bought Yamaha Oak Customs when I was shopping for my kit, but I settled on the Gretsch. Those Yamis are georgeous drums too. I like Taye as well. I gotta tell ya - I like any nice looking/sounding drum !

Cheers,

Kona

mattyg@@
02-04-2009, 11:39 AM
FIRE CRACKERS AT NIGHT, AFTERNOON DELIGHT

Artstar
02-05-2009, 11:41 AM
Do you have a link to the Tama Factory video - I'd love to watch it.
Cheers,

Kona

Here is the flash site and info. I'm a Sonor guy and love Gretsch drums, but would rather have these dudes watching over my stuff ANY DAY! Go look at the people in the Gretsch factory, or DW, and then compare to these militant dudes. Ask yourself. Which crew would you rather build your car or house? There is no question.

http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/usa/Inside_TAMA/factory_001.html

http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/usa/Inside_TAMA/division.html

KONA
02-08-2009, 12:31 PM
[QUOTE=Artstar;535684]
Yes, I've seen the video, and actually was'nt too impressed with the people in the factory. They are cool drums, literally modern day antiques and I like that Keller shell ALOT, but it just seemed they had some people in there that needed a job., ya know? With the exception of a couple of them. That's o.k., just not to my pre-conceived notion. QUOTE]

Artstar.
I watched the video "The Making of That Great Gretsch Sound" again very closely and I have to say the people (all of them) that are involved in making the drums in that video look like they know what they're doing and I'd be happy to have them make my "multi-thousand dollar drums."

Fred Gretsch points out that "the people in the video that are building (cutting, sanding, lacquering, polishing, and testing) the drums" are people that have been with the company for 5,7&10 years - they like what they do and are good at it. I for one am impressed with how they build those drums in the Ridgeland factory.

By the way - It looks like they're building the 125yr Rock Legend shellpack in that video.

Cheers,

Kona

b4z
02-08-2009, 07:04 PM
I've got a gretsch renown double bass kit that i've never played.....wait it's actually a triple bass drum kit, that i've never played. I don't have pics unless you want pics of cardboard boxes with renown written on them. LOL.

trkdrmr
02-08-2009, 07:06 PM
I've got a gretsch renown double bass kit that i've never played.....wait it's actually a triple bass drum kit, that i've never played. I don't have pics unless you want pics of cardboard boxes with renown written on them. LOL.

What are you saving it for???

KONA
02-09-2009, 12:57 AM
I've got a gretsch renown double bass kit that i've never played.....wait it's actually a triple bass drum kit, that i've never played. I don't have pics unless you want pics of cardboard boxes with renown written on them. LOL.

What are you saving it for???

To echo trkdrmr.

b4z
What's the point of a remark like that? Keep it to youself man.....I M O.

Unless you want to crack open the boxes and show us your drums??

Cheers,
Kona

b4z
02-09-2009, 01:55 AM
okay,

here's the most scintillating drum pics you've ever seen.
stored in my garage 3 renown 22x18 bass drums.

b4z
02-09-2009, 02:01 AM
But seriously,

The lower box which has the 22X18 w/ mount will be sold.
I will have (2) 22X18 virgins.
I am still in the process of buying cymbals and hardware and when it is mostly
complete we'll put it on a oriental rug on the concrete pad by the garage and take some pics. still have to find a mostly sound proof room to play it in.
the current plan is to spray open cell foam the attic and put everything up there.
Only probelm is i have to take the hoops off the bass drums to get them through the
attic pull down stairs.

KONA
02-09-2009, 03:23 AM
The Renown 1822 bass drum with the Evans EMAD is pretty nice. There are lots of comments on the Renowns out there on the "web" and most of them are positive. They seem to be holding well with most mid-to-upper end kits I've found.

trkdrmr
02-09-2009, 03:29 AM
The Renown 1822 bass drum with the Evans EMAD is pretty nice. There are lots of comments on the Renowns out there on the "web" and most of them are positive. They seem to be holding well with most mid-to-upper end kits I've found.

I played on a Gretsch kit that was so equipped two weeks ago in Seattle. The sound was excellent. In fact, it was insanely great for the price!

KONA
02-09-2009, 04:54 AM
I played on a Gretsch kit that was so equipped two weeks ago in Seattle. The sound was excellent. In fact, it was insanely great for the price!

Do you know of any good drum retailers in Seattle?
I'm not far away (Vancouver Island) and I'd like to line up "drum-shop-tour" to Seattle one of these days.

trkdrmr
02-09-2009, 04:59 AM
Do you know of any good drum retailers in Seattle?
I'm not far away (Vancouver Island) and I'd like to line up "drum-shop-tour" to Seattle one of these days.

Donn Bennett drum studio in Bellvue. Stop there, and be humbled by drum kits of the masters on display! Buddy Rich, Hal Blaine, Carmine Appice, Alan White, a kit signed by Ringo etc...

The American music, Music 6000 and guitar centers aren't bad either.

KONA
02-09-2009, 05:36 AM
Donn Bennett drum studio in Bellvue. Stop there, and be humbled by drum kits of the masters on display! Buddy Rich, Hal Blaine, Carmine Appice, Alan White, a kit signed by Ringo etc...

The American music, Music 6000 and guitar centers aren't bad either.

Thanks for that - I'll be sure to check them out when I'm in the area.

mrpantsuit
05-30-2011, 04:52 PM
hey hope i'm on the correct thread here.
a mates mate is thinking of selling his US Customs, he says they're from 2007... 20, 12, 14 and a 14" snare, the badge is the standard square badge, and it reads 'since 1883'..
They have the silver seal and the blue/red/white tags on the inside, the color is Millennium Maple.
Can anyone give me any info on recently made Gretsch drums?
And does this info point towards it being a real USA Custom kit?
I cant play'm as they're in a different state. Any help would be much appreciated..
cheers.

Skulmoski
07-19-2011, 07:47 AM
I just got my USA customs last week from Maxwell Drums and I am very happy with them; even with the stock heads. Savanah Sunset: 14" snare, 12" tom, 14" floor tom and a 20" bass drum (with a 16" floor tom on order). I took some photos last week and I post a bit later. I haven't been doing much other than play those drums!

I reasoned that these drums will be with me for another 20 years, so I bought what I wanted. This has been my "mid-life opportunity"!

GJS

p.s. I also picked up a couple of Spizzichino ride cymbals at the same time

audiotech
07-19-2011, 07:53 AM
I just got my USA customs last week from Maxwell Drums and I am very happy with them; even with the stock heads. Savanah Sunset: 14" snare, 12" tom, 14" floor tom and a 20" bass drum (with a 16" floor tom on order). I took some photos last week and I post a bit later. I haven't been doing much other than play those drums!

I reasoned that these drums will be with me for another 20 years, so I bought what I wanted. This has been my "mid-life opportunity"!

GJS

p.s. I also picked up a couple of Spizzichino ride cymbals at the same time

I'm very anxious to see the pictures. Those are great sizes.

Dennis

KONA
07-19-2011, 08:30 AM
I bought the kit you see in my Avatar in May this year (ordered in Feb - arrived in May).
18/12/14 in Champagne Sparkle (DropG Badge of course). I'm very impressed with the tone and look. Everything about them is great. I have a matching finish snare (RB) 125thAnniversary 4.5x14 I use with the kit. They are so easy to tune and have an incredible tuning range. You would maybe not think so with the small BD and toms. But, imagine an 18" floor tom and you understand that you can make that 18 rumble if you want. OR - tune it high = it all works for me.

Skulmoski
07-19-2011, 01:47 PM
I'm very anxious to see the pictures. Those are great sizes.

Dennis

Thanks!

I will post soon; however, I am pushing to finish up at work tomorrow so that I can begin a 16 day summer holiday in Ireland tomorrow night. I will post in August when I return.

GJS