My Chanukah list needs work!

[805Drummer]

I've been checking out some snare drums for my Chanukah list, but I have to keep them around $200 (preferably under, around 150-ish, give or take). So, any suggestions?

I've already looked at these...which one do you think would be the best for the price?

http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionRegular/PorkPie/257424jpg.jpg
Pork Pie Little Squealer

http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionRegular/Yamaha/571275jpg.jpg
Yamaha Custom Birch

http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionRegular/Yamaha/256675jpg.jpg
Yamaha Mushashi Oak

http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionRegular/OrangeCountyDrumsandPercussion/572515jpg.jpg
OCDP Maple

I've read that the OCDP one isn't actually OCDP, but it's a Chinese crap snare that has the OCDP logo. Is that true?

Other drums I've looked at are the Pearl Firecracker, Pork Pie Acrylic, and several piccolos.

...And any other that you think would be good, in this general price range.

Thanks guys! You're help is GREATLY appreciated!!!

PS: I can't ask for anything used, because that's kind of against the spirit.

[Tuxido]

Can you try them before, or are you going to buy one based on looks ? because there is 3 different woods in what you chose so it really comes down to preference.

In those choices I would prefer the Musashi Oak

[805Drummer]

Can you try them before, or are you going to buy one based on looks ?

I can't try them before, but I'm not buying based on looks...that's what the purpose of this thread is.

I need to know the best snare for the price. Also, I would like it to be able to played as a main snare, not auxilary.

[Tuxido]

And are you looking for a side snare or main snare.
can you list the dimensions ?

The musashi would make a good snare in the 13" size but I think the 12" would be too small, sound wise and theres not enough place for brushes.

The yamaha snare looks like a 10" so to me, that would be too small for a main snare.

[805Drummer]

And are you looking for a side snare or main snare.
can you list the dimensions ?

The musashi would make a good snare in the 13" size but I think the 12" would be too small, sound wise and theres not enough place for brushes.

The yamaha snare looks like a 10" so to me, that would be too small for a main snare.

I'm looking for a main snare, and I'll use my PDP as the side snare.

The Mushashi sounds good--according to Guitar Center, it is "constructed in 7-ply oak and produces aggressive, bright, and remarkably loud sound."

But is there possible anything cheaper that sounds as good? I'm not saying the Mushashi isn't an option, but I'm sure there are more options.

Thanks!

[joshisaces]

What kind of sound are you looking for?

[Tuxido]

maybe wait and save up money, put the money you are going to get at chanukah aside so you can buy a snare you really like instead of one that is the "least worst" for the price.

The snare is like the hearth of the drum kit, so waiting and buying a good one is a good idea.

The musashi 13" is about 270$

[805Drummer]

maybe wait and save up money, put the money you are going to get at chanukah aside so you can buy a snare you really like instead of one that is the "least worst" for the price.

The snare is like the hearth of the drum kit, so waiting and buying a good one is a good idea.

The musashi 13" is about 270$

The 14" is $270. The 13" is $230.

And the thing is, we don't ask for money for Chanukah. So technically, I'm not losing any potential money if I don't ask for it...and as long as I get a snare I like, that's all that matters.

[joshisaces]

http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/full/Ludwig/633608259210376060.jpg

This one is $199.00

I played this and IMO it sounds really good.

[805Drummer]

What kind of sound are you looking for?

I'm going to try and describe it...let's see...powerful, punchy, with a nice ring (I don't dampen my snare anymore because I learned how to tune). I also want it to be fairly bright.

[805Drummer]

http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/full/Ludwig/633608259210376060.jpg

This one is $199.00

I played this and IMO it sounds really good.

Is that a vintage-sounding drum? The description on GC/MF was really vague. But the price looks good=D

[Tuxido]

Oh well if you can get the 13" musashi, I would get that, it has pretty much the sound you discribed.

Id disregard the yamaha custom birch since you want a main snare, and the OCDP also.

I don't really know about pork pie

[joshisaces]

Is that a vintage-sounding drum? The description on GC/MF was really vague. But the price looks good=D

When I played it, it was tuned low, and I usually crank my snare up SUPER tight, and I hate it when my snare is tuned low, but that snare sounded good when it was tuned lower than what I'm used to.

[805Drummer]

On other forums, they said the Pork Pie is really good. I'm not a member, so I can't ask them, but has anyone here tried it? 7x13 looks like a good size too...but right now, I'm leaning towards the Mushashi.

[joshisaces]

On other forums, they said the Pork Pie is really good. I'm not a member, so I can't ask them, but has anyone here tried it? 7x13 looks like a good size too...but right now, I'm leaning towards the Mushashi.

I have an idea. You should make a list of all the snares you are interested in, then take it to guitar center and have them bring out all the snares you want to hear. They'll probably let you play with the tuning, so tune it until you get a sound that you like. If you don't get that sound, then that snare won't work out for you. Eliminate all the snares you don't like, then narrow it down. If you have a $250 snare on your list that sounds the same and has the same quality as the $200 snare on your list, then get the cheaper one.

[Ironcobra]

The Musashi is only a few dollars away from a Yamaha Aluminum snare, which is really fantastic.

It's tricky buying a snare in this price range, because it's enough to put a serious dent in the bank, but cheap enough to leave you wanting an upgrade eventually. I would suggest saving until you can buy something in the $400+ price range.

[805Drummer]

I have an idea. You should make a list of all the snares you are interested in, then take it to guitar center and have them bring out all the snares you want to hear. They'll probably let you play with the tuning, so tune it until you get a sound that you like. If you don't get that sound, then that snare won't work out for you. Eliminate all the snares you don't like, then narrow it down. If you have a $250 snare on your list that sounds the same and has the same quality as the $200 snare on your list, then get the cheaper one.

That's a great idea, but I'm not so sure if I'll be able to go to Guitar Center before I need to have my Chanukah list done. I'll see if I can do that.

The Musashi is only a few dollars away from a Yamaha Aluminum snare, which is really fantastic.

It's tricky buying a snare in this price range, because it's enough to put a serious dent in the bank, but cheap enough to leave you wanting an upgrade eventually. I would suggest saving until you can buy something in the $400+ price range.

That Yamaha does look nice, but I'm not so sure if I want to spend more than 250 on a snare. I'd rather get a nice, relatively cheap snare, and a nice drumset to go along with it. For chanukah, the limit is around 200, and I want to save up to my a drumset myself.

[shoedaddy]

On other forums, they said the Pork Pie is really good. I'm not a member, so I can't ask them, but has anyone here tried it? 7x13 looks like a good size too...but right now, I'm leaning towards the Mushashi.

The Pork Pie PigLite acrylic (7X13) is a great snare. You should be able to get one for around $200. Great pop and crack. Has more body than acrylic normally has a reputation for as a drum material. Great as a main snare. I had one I used for awhile with a Tama Starclassic B/B kit I had, and it was perfect. Looks cool, too (not that it matters, right?). I had an Oak Custom snare, too, that I liked--not sure if the Musashi is the same line as that or not. If it is, you can't go wrong with that (but seems like it would be pricier).

[joshisaces]

The Pork Pie PigLite acrylic (7X13) is a great snare. You should be able to get one for around $200. Great pop and crack. Has more body than acrylic normally has a reputation for as a drum material. Great as a main snare. I had one I used for awhile with a Tama Starclassic B/B kit I had, and it was perfect. Looks cool, too (not that it matters, right?). I had an Oak Custom snare, too, that I liked--not sure if the Musashi is the same line as that or not. If it is, you can't go wrong with that (but seems like it would be pricier).

Yeah, I have that snare. It's nice.

If we're talking about the same one...?

http://www.pad-corp.com/image/PorkPieSnareAcrylic.jpg

[805Drummer]

Yeah, I have that snare. It's nice.

If we're talking about the same one...?

http://www.pad-corp.com/image/PorkPieSnareAcrylic.jpg

http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionRegular/PorkPie/429772jpg.jpg
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Pork-Pie-Acrylic-Snare-Drum-with-Black-Powder-Hardware-102659810-i1165949.gc

Is that it?

Plus, there's the Pork Pie Maple and the Pork Pie Big Black Brass (which is the same price as the Mushashi).

http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionRegular/PorkPie/560009jpg.jpghttp://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionRegular/PorkPie/413671jpg.jpg

[joshisaces]

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Pork-Pie-Acrylic-Snare-Drum-with-Black-Powder-Hardware-102659810-i1165949.gc

Is that it?

If you're talking about like, is that mine? no. it's a different one. I bought mine about 6 months ago, so I'm not sure if they carry it anymore.The acrylic you mentioned is good though.

Mine is 7" x 13"
That one is 6" x 14"

[bojangleman]

so your getting another new drumset?

is this the 3rd or 4th?

and whats wrong with the 2 you have now?

im agreeing with what people are saying...Save up...because you wont be happy if you dont spend a few extra bucks and get what you want...

trust me...

and you should know that too...

Alex

[805Drummer]

If you're talking about like, is that mine? no. it's a different one. I bought mine about 6 months ago, so I'm not sure if they carry it anymore.The acrylic you mentioned is good though.

Mine is 7" x 13"
That one is 6" x 14"

Oh...so that means it would have more depth and volume?

[805Drummer]

so your getting another new drumset?

is this the 3rd or 4th?

and whats wrong with the 2 you have now?

im agreeing with what people are saying...Save up...because you wont be happy if you dont spend a few extra bucks and get what you want...

trust me...

and you should know that too...

Alex

I only have one drum set, the PDP 805.

And the thing is, I just want to know the best snare in this price range. And what NOT to get, etc. I'm not looking for more criticism. If I can get something good for this price, why pay more? By the way, that WAS NOT a question.

[bojangleman]

ok...the 13" or 14" Yamaha Oak is what you described..its loud, good sounding, and its cheap..

and i thought you were using your pearl bass drum, and then all your pdp toms?

Alex

[joshisaces]

Oh...so that means it would have more depth and volume?

Well yeah. 7 inches is pretty deep.

Also, GC is doing 20% off on black friday so you could buy the yamaha for $184.00 not including tax though.

It's from 8am - 10am.

EDIT: it's actually friday, saturday, and sunday.

[805Drummer]

ok...the 13" or 14" Yamaha Oak is what you described..its loud, good sounding, and its cheap..

and i thought you were using your pearl bass drum, and then all your pdp toms?

Alex

So, you think the Musashi would be the best? Or were you talking about the Oak Custom?

And yeah, I'm using my Pearl bass drum until I care enough to buy new heads for my 805, because I've adjusted to the size, and would like to use it, but the stock heads have terrible feel.

[805Drummer]

Well yeah. 7 inches is pretty deep.

Also, GC is doing 20% off on black friday so you could buy the yamaha for $184.00 not including tax though.

It's from 8am - 10am.

EDIT: it's actually friday, saturday, and sunday.

Wait...20% off EVERYTHING?!!!

[joshisaces]

Wait...20% off EVERYTHING?!!!

oooop. soz. That was for last year.

[shoedaddy]

[IMG]

Is that it?



Yes, I had the orange acrylic 7X13, and it sounded great.

[805Drummer]

I'm still not quite sure...so the Musashi? Or what? Anything cheaper?

[Ironcobra]

I heard the Ddrum Maples are fantastic, dirt cheap too, under $150 I think.

[joshisaces]

I just checked and this year for black friday you can get 15% off any single item. So the Musashi would be probably around 190.

I'd say go to GC on black friday and get the Musashi for probably 200 because of the tax.

[805Drummer]

I heard the Ddrum Maples are fantastic, dirt cheap too, under $150 I think.

mmmm...that price tag is delicious...

but by "fantastic," do you mean "fastastic," "FANTASTIC," or "good for the price?" Is it better than the other ones mentioned here, like the Pork Pie Little Sqealer?

[bojangleman]

sorry...
yeah the Yamaha Mushashi Oak

Alex

[805Drummer]

Awesome! I'm asking for that, although with that price, I'm not sure if I'm gonna get it....

But here's my list so far:

Yamaha Musashi Snare Drum (Black Oak 6.5x13)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Yamaha-Musashi-Oak-Snare-Drum-101912608-i1137977.gc

Aquarian Classic Clear 14" Snare Side Drumhead (14")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Aquarian-Classic-Clear-Snare-Bottom-Drumhead-449304-i1141335.gc

Aquarian Superkick I Drumhead (24")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Aquarian-Super-Kick-I-Drumhead-449349-i1141444.gc

Sabian XS20 Medium Ride Cymbal (20")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Sabian-XS20-Medium-Ride-Cymbal-104327689-i1176694.gc

Zildjian Hickory Red Drumsticks (5A)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Zildjian-Hickory-Series-Red-Drumsticks-449749-i1275376.gc

Vic Firth SIH1 Isolation Headphones
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Vic-Firth-SIH1-Isolation-Headphones-101547305-i1137888.gc

As you can see, I'm asking for a SuperKick I for my 805 bass drum. Cool huh?

[joshisaces]

Awesome! I'm asking for that, although with that price, I'm not sure if I'm gonna get it....

But here's my list so far:

Yamaha Musashi Snare Drum (Black Oak 6.5x13)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Yamaha-Musashi-Oak-Snare-Drum-101912608-i1137977.gc

Aquarian Classic Clear 14" Snare Side Drumhead (14")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Aquarian-Classic-Clear-Snare-Bottom-Drumhead-449304-i1141335.gc

Aquarian Superkick I Drumhead (24")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Aquarian-Super-Kick-I-Drumhead-449349-i1141444.gc

Sabian XS20 Medium Ride Cymbal (20")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Sabian-XS20-Medium-Ride-Cymbal-104327689-i1176694.gc

Zildjian Hickory Red Drumsticks (5A)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Zildjian-Hickory-Series-Red-Drumsticks-449749-i1275376.gc

Vic Firth SIH1 Isolation Headphones
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Vic-Firth-SIH1-Isolation-Headphones-101547305-i1137888.gc

As you can see, I'm asking for a SuperKick I for my 805 bass drum. Cool huh?


Do not get colored drum sticks, although they may look cool. The color will rub off on your cymbals.

The headphones are sweet.

[805Drummer]

Do not get colored drum sticks, although they may look cool. The color will rub off on your cymbals.

The headphones are sweet.

Yeah, I get headaches every day from cranking up my Panasonics...although they are the coolest headphones ever.

http://www.audiocubes.com/images/panasonic_rphtx4.jpg

If I shouldn't get those sticks, what would be a good pair? I prefer 5A's, and it turns out, the sticks I use now are Steve Gadd sticks...what would be something similar?

[wloeb]

The Superkick I is a good choice but I think that you may be happier with a superkick II.
It has a fuller rounder sound. Which one do you have on your 22"?
Also Good choice with the Yamaha snare, much better than a low-end DDrum.
I think you need two more presents, it's not adding up to eight yet.

Wayne


Awesome! I'm asking for that, although with that price, I'm not sure if I'm gonna get it....

But here's my list so far:

Yamaha Musashi Snare Drum (Black Oak 6.5x13)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Yamaha-Musashi-Oak-Snare-Drum-101912608-i1137977.gc

Aquarian Classic Clear 14" Snare Side Drumhead (14")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Aquarian-Classic-Clear-Snare-Bottom-Drumhead-449304-i1141335.gc

Aquarian Superkick I Drumhead (24")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Aquarian-Super-Kick-I-Drumhead-449349-i1141444.gc

Sabian XS20 Medium Ride Cymbal (20")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Sabian-XS20-Medium-Ride-Cymbal-104327689-i1176694.gc

Zildjian Hickory Red Drumsticks (5A)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Zildjian-Hickory-Series-Red-Drumsticks-449749-i1275376.gc

Vic Firth SIH1 Isolation Headphones
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Vic-Firth-SIH1-Isolation-Headphones-101547305-i1137888.gc

As you can see, I'm asking for a SuperKick I for my 805 bass drum. Cool huh?

[bojangleman]

why dont you sacrifice some of those items and get the snare?

lol..im just wondering..

Alex

[805Drummer]

The Superkick I is a good choice but I think that you may be happier with a superkick II.
It has a fuller rounder sound. Which one do you have on your 22"?
Also Good choice with the Yamaha snare, much better than a low-end DDrum.
I think you need two more presents, it's not adding up to eight yet.

Wayne

Haha, I don't get one every night! Well, kind of, I do, but only small things, like sticks and stuff. Then we get 2 or 3 "big presents." ...but I also and asking for a 16" PST 5 China and a Drumdial.

Also, are you sure about the Superkicks? The one Yamaha Beech Custom at my school has a SK I, and I really like the sound of it...it has a low-end punch, just like the Aquarian site says. Or would the SK II sound better on my 805?

[wloeb]

Haha, I don't get one every night! Well, kind of, I do, but only small things, like sticks and stuff. Then we get 2 or 3 "big presents." ...but I also and asking for a 16" PST 5 China and a Drumdial.

Also, are you sure about the Superkicks? The one Yamaha Beech Custom at my school has a SK I, and I really like the sound of it...it has a low-end punch, just like the Aquarian site says. Or would the SK II sound better on my 805?

Well, I have a sk II on my 20" and I used to rum one on my 24" Maple custom. I play on another drummers 22" with a SK I and it sounds a little thin in comparison but it could be the tuning. Also I run an Emad I on my other kit and I like it at higher tunings but the EMAD 2 sounds fatter at lower tunings.

Summary: I like 2 ply bass drum heads at lower tunings and 1 ply at higher tunings
I have a feeling that you are going to tune pretty low.

Wayne

[joshisaces]

Yeah, I get headaches every day from cranking up my Panasonics...although they are the coolest headphones ever.

http://www.audiocubes.com/images/panasonic_rphtx4.jpg

If I shouldn't get those sticks, what would be a good pair? I prefer 5A's, and it turns out, the sticks I use now are Steve Gadd sticks...what would be something similar?

Vic Firth sticks are a buck at guitar center for black friday. I would think all 5A's would feel the same.

[Ironcobra]

mmmm...that price tag is delicious...

but by "fantastic," do you mean "fastastic," "FANTASTIC," or "good for the price?" Is it better than the other ones mentioned here, like the Pork Pie Little Sqealer?

Great snare, surprising price.

[Tuxido]

Don't waste your money on cheap cymbals like Xs20 or PST5....

Wait and get 1 good one. You won't need to upgrade afterwards and if you don't like it you can always sell it back and loose little money.

...or make you set look cool with lots of cymbals....

[805Drummer]

Don't waste your money on cheap cymbals like Xs20 or PST5....

Wait and get 1 good one. You won't need to upgrade afterwards and if you don't like it you can always sell it back and loose little money.

...or make you set look cool with lots of cymbals....

I know, I know, I know. But I'm desperate to replace my ride cymbal and hi-hats, and I need to ask for SOMETHING for Chanukah, because I probably won't get the snare (too costly). Would I be better off asking for a pro crash, like a 14" Studio AAX or A Custom? Or maybe even a pro splash...?

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

8o5, If you're getting the Musashi, make sure your snare head is a 13".

I own a Musashi, I've had it for nearly two years now and it's a fantastic bit of kit.

[joshisaces]

I know, I know, I know. But I'm desperate to replace my ride cymbal and hi-hats, and I need to ask for SOMETHING for Chanukah, because I probably won't get the snare (too costly). Would I be better off asking for a pro crash, like a 14" Studio AAX or A Custom? Or maybe even a pro splash...?

I wouldn't get a splash. Get hats or a crash. They're more important than an effect cymbal.

[mrchattr]

If it's not too late to throw out another snare to consider...

Tama Metalworks 13"x4" snare ($199) is my favorite snare ever, and I own a few that are way more expensive than that. It's smaller, but you can tune it lower if you want, or really, really freaking high, to the point where it pops like crazy. It really is just an amazing drum, I can't speak highly enough of it. It's loud, bright, cuts like crazy, and sounds good any way I've tuned it.

I just can't recommend this snare highly enough.

[805Drummer]

Well, I have a sk II on my 20" and I used to rum one on my 24" Maple custom. I play on another drummers 22" with a SK I and it sounds a little thin in comparison but it could be the tuning. Also I run an Emad I on my other kit and I like it at higher tunings but the EMAD 2 sounds fatter at lower tunings.

Summary: I like 2 ply bass drum heads at lower tunings and 1 ply at higher tunings
I have a feeling that you are going to tune pretty low.

Wayne

Alright, I guess I'll just go with the SKII. At least I can't go wrong with that. I'd like to keep all my heads Aquarian, so yeah.

8o5, If you're getting the Musashi, make sure your snare head is a 13".

I own a Musashi, I've had it for nearly two years now and it's a fantastic bit of kit.

The 13" classic clear was for my 805 Snare. I would buy heads later for the Musashi, or in this case, might be the metalworks.

I wouldn't get a splash. Get hats or a crash. They're more important than an effect cymbal.

If it's not too late to throw out another snare to consider...

Tama Metalworks 13"x4" snare ($199) is my favorite snare ever, and I own a few that are way more expensive than that. It's smaller, but you can tune it lower if you want, or really, really freaking high, to the point where it pops like crazy. It really is just an amazing drum, I can't speak highly enough of it. It's loud, bright, cuts like crazy, and sounds good any way I've tuned it.

I just can't recommend this snare highly enough.

Woah, looks like a great deal. It has the sound I want, a good price tag, it looks great, it comes with a gig bag, and an Evans Power Center Reverse Dot. But is the Musashi worth the extra 30 bucks?

[mrchattr]

Woah, looks like a great deal. It has the sound I want, a good price tag, it looks great, it comes with a gig bag, and an Evans Power Center Reverse Dot. But is the Musashi worth the extra 30 bucks?

I have never tried the Musashi. All I can tell you is that the Metalworks is my snare drum of choice, regardless of price, of the dozen or so I own. Well, that, and that I get compliments on how it sounds all the time.

[Ian]

Awesome! I'm asking for that, although with that price, I'm not sure if I'm gonna get it....

But here's my list so far:

Yamaha Musashi Snare Drum (Black Oak 6.5x13)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Yamaha-Musashi-Oak-Snare-Drum-101912608-i1137977.gc

Aquarian Classic Clear 14" Snare Side Drumhead (14")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Aquarian-Classic-Clear-Snare-Bottom-Drumhead-449304-i1141335.gc

Aquarian Superkick I Drumhead (24")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Aquarian-Super-Kick-I-Drumhead-449349-i1141444.gc

Sabian XS20 Medium Ride Cymbal (20")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Sabian-XS20-Medium-Ride-Cymbal-104327689-i1176694.gc

Zildjian Hickory Red Drumsticks (5A)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Zildjian-Hickory-Series-Red-Drumsticks-449749-i1275376.gc

Vic Firth SIH1 Isolation Headphones
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Vic-Firth-SIH1-Isolation-Headphones-101547305-i1137888.gc

As you can see, I'm asking for a SuperKick I for my 805 bass drum. Cool huh?

This looks like a fine list!

Out of all the snares listed in this post I would go for the Mushashi or the Pork Pie BBB. The OCDP is not a USA and while it would sound fine, it's not a great drum. I have been in many studios that have BBB/Black Beautys AND the 13" Mushashi for their clients to use, but if I'm using a studio that doesn't have them on hand I bring them. I would avoid acryllic if you do not have a large collection as I have found them to lack in versatility, same with picolos (metalworks). The Mushashi and Pork Pie are both extremely versatile in their own ways (they are TOTALLY different drums). I don't like the Little Squealers.

Also, just to be clear, deep drums do not make for more volume or a lower fundamental.

Either SK will suit you fine, but the coated will be more muffled.

Bang for buck I would definately go for the VF isolation headphones. I have two pairs and molded in-ears and I find myself using the $45 VFs as much as the $700 in-ears. They don't sound nearly as good (the speakers are downright crappy), but they isolate very well. If you can ask for a little more try to get some Ultraphones. Same drivers Sony uses but with better isolation.

The ride is fine, but I would hesitate to ask for a cymbal I hadn't heard. Also, inexpensive brass will sound inexpensive. A good ride is worth saving for/finding used. If you need a good cymbal in the sub $200 range I'd get a splash or a 16" crash. I've always felt 14" crashes sound tiny... but I play 20" and 21" crashes, so what do I know?

[805Drummer]

I have never tried the Musashi. All I can tell you is that the Metalworks is my snare drum of choice, regardless of price, of the dozen or so I own. Well, that, and that I get compliments on how it sounds all the time.

Sweet. I think I'll change to that.

So right now, here's my list:

Tama Metalworks Steel Snare Drum (4x13)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Tama-Metalworks-Steel-Snare-Drum-443203-i1168735.gc
4
Aquarian Classic Clear 14" Snare Side Drumhead (14")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Aquarian-Classic-Clear-Snare-Bottom-Drumhead-449304-i1141335.gc

Aquarian Superkick II Drumhead (24")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Aquarian-Super-Kick-II-Drumhead-449350-i1416133.gc

Paiste Alpha Thin Crash (14") ????????

Vic Firth SIH1 Isolation Headphones
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Vic-Firth-SIH1-Isolation-Headphones-101547305-i1137888.gc

Pacific Drums 800 Boom Stand
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Pacific-Drums-by-DW-P-D-800-Boom-Cymbal-Stand-100845239-i1137488.gc?source=4WFRWXX&CAWELAID=92204141

Subscription to Modern Drummer Magazine
http://www.moderndrummer.com

Zildjian Anti-Vibe Drumsticks (5A Nylon)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Zildjian-Anti-Vibe-Drumsticks-449711-i1275327.gc

Paiste PST 5 China Cymbal (16")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Paiste-PST-5-China-103037362-i1139955.gc

Drum Dial Drum Tuner
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Drumdial-Drum-Tuner-100860287-i1136239.gc

Apple iPod Nano (8 GB White)
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Apple-iPod-nano-4th-Gen-8GB?sku=249995


If you guys have any suggestions to change it, please tell me.

As for the Alpha, would that count as a "pro" cymbal?

[joshisaces]

Sweet. I think I'll change to that.

So right now, here's my list:

Tama Metalworks Steel Snare Drum (4x13)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Tama-Metalworks-Steel-Snare-Drum-443203-i1168735.gc
4
Aquarian Classic Clear 14" Snare Side Drumhead (14")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Aquarian-Classic-Clear-Snare-Bottom-Drumhead-449304-i1141335.gc

Aquarian Superkick II Drumhead (24")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Aquarian-Super-Kick-II-Drumhead-449350-i1416133.gc

Paiste Alpha Thin Crash (14") ????????

Vic Firth SIH1 Isolation Headphones
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Vic-Firth-SIH1-Isolation-Headphones-101547305-i1137888.gc

Pacific Drums 800 Boom Stand
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Pacific-Drums-by-DW-P-D-800-Boom-Cymbal-Stand-100845239-i1137488.gc?source=4WFRWXX&CAWELAID=92204141

Subscription to Modern Drummer Magazine
http://www.moderndrummer.com

Zildjian Anti-Vibe Drumsticks (5A Nylon)
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Zildjian-Anti-Vibe-Drumsticks-449711-i1275327.gc

Paiste PST 5 China Cymbal (16")
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Paiste-PST-5-China-103037362-i1139955.gc

Drum Dial Drum Tuner
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Drumdial-Drum-Tuner-100860287-i1136239.gc

Apple iPod Nano (8 GB White)
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Apple-iPod-nano-4th-Gen-8GB?sku=249995


If you guys have any suggestions to change it, please tell me.

As for the Alpha, would that count as a "pro" cymbal?

The 808 booms are super sturdy. good choice.
The pst5 china's are sick for price. They have a nice sound.
And, the metalworks snare is very poppy.

[805Drummer]

The 808 booms are super sturdy. good choice.
The pst5 china's are sick for price. They have a nice sound.
And, the metalworks snare is very poppy.

Thank you. I have an 800 boom right now, and it holds my ride on the boom, and my crash on a Pearl cymbal holder, all very sturdy. And I didn't want to get too nice of a china, because it seemed a bit too unnecessary. Plus, I'm glad to get more feedback on that snare. I think I'll go with it.

What about the Anti-vibe sticks and the Alpha thin/medium/rock crashes?

[joshisaces]

Thank you. I have an 800 boom right now, and it holds my ride on the boom, and my crash on a Pearl cymbal holder, all very sturdy. And I didn't want to get too nice of a china, because it seemed a bit too unnecessary. Plus, I'm glad to get more feedback on that snare. I think I'll go with it.

What about the Anti-vibe sticks and the Alpha thin/medium/rock crashes?

What's with these sticks. Is there some reason they're 12 bucks? Are they super strong?

Soz. I haven't owned one paiste my whole life.


..Ohh, and I think the metalworks snare comes with a bag.

[805Drummer]

What's with these sticks. Is there some reason they're 12 bucks? Are they super strong?

Soz. I haven't owned one paiste my whole life.


..Ohh, and I think the metalworks snare comes with a bag.

I dunno about the sticks, I've heard good things about them though.

And yeah, the metalworks comes with a bag and an Evans Reverse PowerDot head. Sweet deal, if it's a good snare. Apparently, it is.

[joshisaces]

I dunno about the sticks, I've heard good things about them though.

And yeah, the metalworks comes with a bag and an Evans Reverse PowerDot head. Sweet deal, if it's a good snare. Apparently, it is.

Yesh. it is. Vaters are also great sticks. One pair lasted me like 2 weeks once! They eventually got really light, and I couldn't use them anymore.

[bojangleman]

dude..lol

just get some Vater hickory 5A's....i use 5B nylon tip, and they last me forever...

seriously...the burden im in now is that i have to go buy some cheap crappy sticks to play at shows so i can break them and throw them out...

haha

Alex

[razorx]

Alphas are pro in my book.

[mrchattr]

Anti-vibe sticks have rubber in the core, which is supposed to absorb the force of your hit better than regular sticks do, thus making the impact on your hand and wrists less. They are aimed at guys like me, with wrist problems.

I have tried them twice. Both times, I woke up in agony that night from wrist pain, and had to wear my wrist braces the next two days. It could just be a coincidence, but considering that I only use my braces at most 2 or 3 times a year, and only once before that woke up from the pain, I'm not going to keep experimenting to find out.

[805Drummer]

This looks like a fine list!

Out of all the snares listed in this post I would go for the Mushashi or the Pork Pie BBB. The OCDP is not a USA and while it would sound fine, it's not a great drum. I have been in many studios that have BBB/Black Beautys AND the 13" Mushashi for their clients to use, but if I'm using a studio that doesn't have them on hand I bring them. I would avoid acryllic if you do not have a large collection as I have found them to lack in versatility, same with picolos (metalworks). The Mushashi and Pork Pie are both extremely versatile in their own ways (they are TOTALLY different drums). I don't like the Little Squealers.

Also, just to be clear, deep drums do not make for more volume or a lower fundamental.

Either SK will suit you fine, but the coated will be more muffled.

Bang for buck I would definately go for the VF isolation headphones. I have two pairs and molded in-ears and I find myself using the $45 VFs as much as the $700 in-ears. They don't sound nearly as good (the speakers are downright crappy), but they isolate very well. If you can ask for a little more try to get some Ultraphones. Same drivers Sony uses but with better isolation.

The ride is fine, but I would hesitate to ask for a cymbal I hadn't heard. Also, inexpensive brass will sound inexpensive. A good ride is worth saving for/finding used. If you need a good cymbal in the sub $200 range I'd get a splash or a 16" crash. I've always felt 14" crashes sound tiny... but I play 20" and 21" crashes, so what do I know?

I changed the ride to a 15" AAX crash. I've heard it on videos and on Sabian's website, and sounds great, even though I know it's a weird size. As for the headphones, I don't really care about the sound quality, because I'll just use it for drum covers...I already have a nice pair of headphones for music.

I'm gonna go for the superkick II, just because I've tried it more than the I, so it's more "tried and true." And I've heard the metalworks, and that's what I'm asking for. Sounds great.

Anti-vibe sticks have rubber in the core, which is supposed to absorb the force of your hit better than regular sticks do, thus making the impact on your hand and wrists less. They are aimed at guys like me, with wrist problems.

I have tried them twice. Both times, I woke up in agony that night from wrist pain, and had to wear my wrist braces the next two days. It could just be a coincidence, but considering that I only use my braces at most 2 or 3 times a year, and only once before that woke up from the pain, I'm not going to keep experimenting to find out.

Uhhh..that scares me. Maybe I should take those off my list...