Defining moments in music

[metal overlord]

What do you think are the most difining moments in music? Could be from any genre, or anything like that.


Mine would be:

Los Angeles, 1981. A man called James H. read the newspaper.

^^
Meaning a young James Hetfield was reading the newspaper and say "Drummer willing to do anything to be in a band".
And that drummer, was Mr. Lars Ulrich.



Also

When Geezer Butler saw the hooded ghostley figure at the end of his bed on that faithful Sunday evening.

^^
Thats how they got the name "Black Sabbath"

[TheGroceryman]

When gregorian chant was invented in the Middle Ages. Basically set the precedent of all music to follow. Or how about when religion was invented, cause thats what spurred the beginning of music.

[Muckster]

The invention of the electric guitar.

[lochday]

The first time humans discovered they could sing and actually sang, perhaps before they started to speak...Another defining moment is when the first musical instrument was devised.

[jay norem]

Pythagoras, around 400 B.C.

[Nodiggie]

Hmmm....

How about 1300 ish. The "Tabor" was invented with a single snare strand. Sick back beats soon followed...lol

[divingdrummerdean]

The first time humans discovered they could sing and actually sang, perhaps before they started to speak...Another defining moment is when the first musical instrument was devised.

...which was...the drum. ; )

[trkdrmr]

When Gene Krupa helped create a 20" floor tom and helped bring drumming into the forefront.

[GRUNTERSDAD]

The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show.

[Nodiggie]

The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show.

Great music but I have a difficult time understanding their lyrics.

Oh....who am I kidding I went deaf years ago.....lol

[LeeLovesSabian]

Keith Moon Passing out onto his snare, during Won't Get Fooled Again.

[Class A Drummer]

When John Bonham did the bass drum triplets in good times bad times.

When Neil Peart did that Last 2 bar Fill in YYZ during the drum/bass trade off solos.

[Bonz0]

When DW made the Double Bass Pedals =)...Hi everybody im new here

[doorstilend]

Keith Moon Passing out onto his snare, during Won't Get Fooled Again.


Absolutely i wonder what kind of drug did he take

[trkdrmr]

Absolutely i wonder what kind of drug did he take

Moon was an alcoholic. Likely, he blacked out. When he died, he was taking medication that was supposed to help with his alcoholism.

[aydee]

The invention of the electric guitar.


Very insightful, sir.

[jay norem]

I'd say when Charlie Parker figured out how to reharmonize "Cherokee." Pretty defining, that.

[805Drummer]

When the word "music" was added to the dictionary.

[Chazz]

F. M. Radio
The British Invasion
Midnight Special
Don Kirshners Rock Concerts
California Jam - when Ritchie Blackmore smashed the Camera with his Strat!
Woodstock
Beatles at Shea Stadium
and there's more....

[stasz]

When a young Kenny G first picked up the saxaphone... the rest, as they say, is history.

[Pocketman]

Beethoven wirting the Ninth Symphony while deaf

Slaves are allowed to play music in Congo Square, New Orleans

The emergence of Louis Armstrong, America's most important singular musician

The Benny Goodman Orchestra (with Krupa) plays the Palomar Ballroom

Charlie Parker and Dizzy create bebop

Elvis goes on Ed Sullivan

The Beatles on Ed Sullivan

MTV (I mention this as defining, not good)

The ability to share music via downloading

[trkdrmr]

MTV (I mention this as defining, not good)


Yeah, MTV nosedived around 1989 when they started veering away from a music video only format. Maybe it was a little before that, but I used to like it when it actually showed rock and top 40 videos. MTV's original concept did redefine the music scene, but alas, fell to corporate mentality and slid into the abyss of reality shows and rappers.

[Deathmetalconga]

Pythagoras, around 400 B.C.

Very true. One person, one simple discovery that led to Western melodic organization. He found that if you cut the vibrating length of string in half, the sound waves doubled in frequency, the basis for the octave. Not a huge mystery and someone was bound to have discovered it eventually (maybe Eastern musicians did and thought little of it) but that was clearly a defining moment.

[Deathmetalconga]

African slaves adapting their music in the New World

The Spanish and Portuguese generally let their slaves make and play indigenous instruments, unlike the more uptight English and American slave traders and owners. Jazz probably never have evolved if American slaves would have been allowed to keep their native instruments - the influence of the original African music would have been too strong to permit something as radically different as jazz to evolve, so I think.

[doorstilend]

when humans created a thing called "blues"

[Deltadrummer]

When the first caveman banged two rocks together and found out it was a good way to pick up chicks.

When the Indians divided the string, millennia before Pythagoras; right Abe?

When Shakespeare wrote A Midsummer Night's Dream. (and found out it was a good way to pick up chicks.)

When a hedge trimming accident produced the first male castrato.

When Bach realized harmony was math, and idea he borrowed from Rameau; but no Frenchman could ever come up with an idea that good.

Two words: Free jazz.

[aydee]

when humans created a thing called "blues"

The use of the flattened 5th..

When the first caveman banged two rocks together and found out it was a good way to pick up chicks.

Thank you for not saying cavemen "picked up the rocks & banged the chicks", Kenny, that would have been rude.

When the Indians divided the string, millennia before Pythagoras; right Abe?

I didn't know that.. Geometry, Math.. I thought that was the Greeks & the Arabs..respectively..?


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[Mr. Pasquini]

1993 when I first picked up a violin.

[lochday]

.... When Bach realized harmony was math, and idea he borrowed from Rameau; but no Frenchman could ever come up with an idea that good.

Two words: Free jazz.

Bach and the Golden Number ...

[trkdrmr]

Let me see if I can add a few.

1. Sing sing sing- Gene Krupa
2. West side story suite- Buddy Rich
3. When the leavee breaks/Moby Dick- John Bonham
4. Purdie shuffle- Bernard Purdie
5. 50 ways to leave your lover- Steve Gadd
6. Don't stop Believeing drum track- Steve Smith
7. Brother to brother-Mark Craney
8. Moving Pictures- Neil Peart
9. Hot for teacher- Alex Van Halen
10.The police- Stewart Copeland

[Dystisis]

Pythagoras, around 400 B.C.
Agreed, I'd say this is probably the biggest one if we consider the last few thousand years... For european/western culture at least.

Before that, the invention of drums, the beginning of organization/categorization.

[Ian Williams]

-> Ray Manzarek - The Doors, who wrote and played the basslines on a keyboard bass, keeping it melodic and precise.

-> Rock N' Roll a mixture of Blues + Boogie Woogie with tempo.

-> Myself, for the first time playing the drums:
It's a long way to the top (if you wanna rock n' roll) and Live Wire...AC/DC - High Voltage.

Cheers,

[Deltadrummer]

I didn't know that.. Geometry, Math.. I thought that was the Greeks & the Arabs..respectively..?


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The Vedic tribes were dabbling in this type of geometric cosmogony hundreds of years before that. My Indian philosophy teacher in college argued that the Greeks got their diatonic scale from the Indians, and that the imperfection of musical mathematics resulted in the necessity for the creation of the gods. If music, or anything were perfect, there would be no need for a god.

There was a lot written back in the 70's about the Vedic tribes, and some authors even argued that they made their way even to Ireland. So in that sense, the roots of western culture are Indian, not Greek. That's why our languages have Sanskrit roots.

[Ironcobra]

When people were started becoming concerned with lyrics and videos rather than what the music sounds like.

Not really a good thing.

[GRUNTERSDAD]

Right On I.C.....................

[TheGroceryman]

When Bach realized harmony was math, and idea he borrowed from Rameau; but no Frenchman could ever come up with an idea that good.

could you explain? I'm really curious how harmony is math.

[Ian Williams]

When people were started becoming concerned with lyrics and videos rather than what the music sounds like.

Not really a good thing.

Good on you, mate.
I miss those 4-5 member bands that really made music, long time ago...Now is just show business and commercial propaganda.

[doorstilend]

-> Ray Manzarek - The Doors, who wrote and played the basslines on a keyboard bass, keeping it melodic and precise.

-> Rock N' Roll a mixture of Blues + Boogie Woogie with tempo.

-> Myself, for the first time playing the drums:
It's a long way to the top (if you wanna rock n' roll) and Live Wire...AC/DC - High Voltage.

Cheers,



right on mate that Vox Continental he played sounded amazing

[jay norem]

right on mate that Vox Continental he played sounded amazing

Actually it was a Fender "Key-Bass."

[Deathmetalconga]

When people were started becoming concerned with lyrics and videos rather than what the music sounds like.

Not really a good thing.

People developed instrumental music in conjunction with singing, dancing, worship, celebration, festivals, parades, feasts competitions etc. For music to exist separately from those things is unheard of in some socieities. In some countries, like India, popular music doesn't really exist separately from movies (maybe that's changed some).

This whole Western norm of "you're the audience so you sit there and stare and us while we play music" is not too common, I think. Good thing or not, people often see music as part of something larger, including a video, dance, song, etc.

[Guz2]

When Tony Iommi crushed one of his fingertips here in my hometown, Birmingham.

[doorstilend]

Actually it was a Fender "Key-Bass."


he used many keyboards and the vox was one of them

[trkdrmr]

When Tony Iommi crushed one of his fingertips here in my hometown, Birmingham.

Yikes... when/how did that happen? Was he playing at the time?

[metal overlord]

Yikes... when/how did that happen? Was he playing at the time?

I think he worked at a steel mill.
He only has 4 fingers and can still be a god at guitar.

[trkdrmr]

I think he worked at a steel mill.
He only has 4 fingers and can still be a god at guitar.

That is amazing. I always looked to him as a rock God... but 4 fingers???? Even more amazing.

[Deltadrummer]

Actually he cut the tips off his fingers middle and ringer fingers the last day he worked at a sheet metal factory. He was just set to join the band. So rather then give up guitar, he made little plastic tips for his fingers, used a lighter sting and de-tuned down a third to e flat. That down tuning is considered to have given Black Sabbath a darker more sinister sound. Now everyone is drop tuning down to d and c.

[Deathmetalconga]

Yikes... when/how did that happen? Was he playing at the time?

There is a Black Sabbath tribute band called Bit of Finger. Another is called Pissed at Ringo.

[trkdrmr]

There is a Black Sabbath tribute band called Bit of Finger. Another is called Pissed at Ringo.

hahaha...that's just...not ....right.... XD

[Citizen Insane]

When Joe Strummer saw the sex pistols live.

[Drifter in the Dark]

November 20th, 1969: James Brown and his band, including Clyde Stubblefield on drums, recorded "Funky Drummer" at King Records studios in Cincinnati, Ohio. The song helped lay the foundation for hip-hop, rap, and drum 'n bass, and has become one of the most-sampled pieces of music in history.

[Dan Lane]

Registered just to add this:

When Kenny Clarke decided he'd try playing time on the ride cymbal.

[Ian Williams]

Drum solos by:

Ian Paice ~ The Mule, Made In Japan / Deep Purple.

John Bonham ~ Moby Dick, The Song Remains The Same / Led Zeppelin.

Ginger Baker ~ Toad / Cream.

[Ian Williams]

When The Sex Pistols ,played their polemic song God Save The Queen, aboard a boat navigating on the river Thames...police everywhere!!!

Another controversial song was Anarchy in the U.K.

When Venezuelan singer Ali Primera (he sang protest music against politicians) died in an car collision. The local government in charge by the time around 1980, was blamed on murder...remains a cold case.