Hybrid rudiments and rudimens on the kit

[robertondrums]

I'm Interested to know of any interesting ideas anybody has with rudiments around the kit. Or any strange ways of linking things together. I'm experementing a lot with solo concepts and creative ways of playing like odd timing, metric modulation and such like. I would be more than willing to exchange any ideas of my own with anyone that is interested.

[BWT hooligan]

Yeah, man. I was kind of wondering about this stuff myself. What i realized though is that apparently any rudiment can be played on the entire set and there are sooo many ways to do that. Some things sound better than others. Actually, the faster you play rudiments the better they sound, in my opinion.

My strategy is to take a certain pattern or a rudiment and practice it in a certain way with certain accents on bass drum or hats. The most challenging rudiments to play that way would be the longer stroke rolls since it is extremely hard to move them around the set.
I have learned a lot of things this way and significantly improved my techniques in general.

[jonescrusher]

Well, presuming by the fact that you're an advanced clinic player you're familiar with the rhythm scale concept, ie. playing a rudiment through all time values from whole notes through to 64ths. This alone should provide you with enormous creative opportunities in taking rudiments around the kit. When you reach a stage where you can orchestrate the rudiment on any voice whilst moving fluidly between time values with added dynamics and accents, you'll be cooking.

[robertondrums]

Yeah, man. I was kind of wondering about this stuff myself. What i realized though is that apparently any rudiment can be played on the entire set and there are sooo many ways to do that. Some things sound better than others. Actually, the faster you play rudiments the better they sound, in my opinion.

My strategy is to take a certain pattern or a rudiment and practice it in a certain way with certain accents on bass drum or hats. The most challenging rudiments to play that way would be the longer stroke rolls since it is extremely hard to move them around the set.
I have learned a lot of things this way and significantly improved my techniques in general.
Thanks for the post dude. I'm trying to take some snare drum solo's that I've seen like Jeff Queen's tribute and disect them and see if I can apply them to the kit. I find this to be very challenging as the solo's were designed for the snare. I tend to just slow dvd's down and pick out the odd rudiment or riff here and there and try to incorporate my own ideas into them. This is the best way to learn in my opinion because you pick up your own technique and uniqe way of playing things.
Thanks for the post

[robertondrums]

Well, presuming by the fact that you're an advanced clinic player you're familiar with the rhythm scale concept, ie. playing a rudiment through all time values from whole notes through to 64ths. This alone should provide you with enormous creative opportunities in taking rudiments around the kit. When you reach a stage where you can orchestrate the rudiment on any voice whilst moving fluidly between time values with added dynamics and accents, you'll be cooking.
Cheers man, I've have experimented with this type of thing before and found it very interesting. I must admit though there is always room for improvement.
Thanks

[franklinj]

If you can break up the doubles found in a lot of rudiments and play them with your feet, you can come up with some pretty ridiculous sounding fills.

Take a six stroke roll: RLLRRL RLLRRL
If you play the right hand doubles with your right foot instead of your hands and move the fill around the toms, it becomes a pretty interesting lick. This can be applied to nearly any rudiment.

[robertondrums]

If you can break up the doubles found in a lot of rudiments and play them with your feet, you can come up with some pretty ridiculous sounding fills.

Take a six stroke roll: RLLRRL RLLRRL
If you play the right hand doubles with your right foot instead of your hands and move the fill around the toms, it becomes a pretty interesting lick. This can be applied to nearly any rudiment.
Ye, thanks man. I have tried some of this stuff before but I will try and incorporate some of this into my playing a bit better and try and perfect this technique.
Thanks a lot man.
By the way love the moving image. Made me have a good old fashioned belly laugh. Hahahahaha