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Siddh
08-25-2008, 10:08 PM
My friend was telling me about this article he read in a drum magazine about how overtime, playing barefoot can cause serious damage to your feet.

I've been playing barefoot for about a year and a half. Should I be concerned? Should I start wearing shoes? Or is that article a bunch of lies?

Gyrefalcon
08-25-2008, 10:11 PM
Unless you, yourself read the article, and it cited many professional medical opinions you should just consider it hearsay.

Siddh
08-25-2008, 10:26 PM
Well, this doesn't seem like one of those, "Oh well my friend said..."

He even asked me if I wanted to check the article out.

metal overlord
08-25-2008, 10:34 PM
What is consittered barefoot?

Socks, no socks?

I were the boxing shoe thing or whatever.

Siddh
08-25-2008, 10:39 PM
Barefoot as in no socks, no shoes, no etc. Just your feet.

metal overlord
08-25-2008, 10:42 PM
Barefoot as in no socks, no shoes, no etc. Just your feet.

ahh ok.


Anyway, that sounds a bit strange.
I know a dude who's been drumming for 60 years barefoot and he is fine...

Garvin
08-25-2008, 11:06 PM
No.... I don't believe stuff like that for a second. You'd have to have horrible technique to really hurt yourself. Even then, if you are playing poorly enough to hurt yourself, then it doesn't matter what you have on your feet...

This is like the glove debate in a way. Use em' if you think they actually help, but don't tell me for a second that I should or shouldn't.

Shoes or gloves might help you from developing callouses depending on the style of music you are playing, or your technique, but if you know yourself and your body, you should develop your playing to keep from hurting yourself.

Class A Drummer
08-25-2008, 11:26 PM
Dude ive been drumming for close to ten years, most of the time barefoot (recently not so much) and i have had no trouble.

bonzolead
08-26-2008, 12:17 AM
I've been playing either with just socks or barefooted for over 30 yrs. never had a problem.
as a matter a fact played a outside gig yesterday barefooted still no problems.

the only problem is stubbing your toe on a cymbal or hi-hat stand trying to get behind your kit LOL

Bonzolead

kwolf68
08-26-2008, 12:17 AM
Until you see statistical evidence and peer-reviewed research then I would not be concerned. Just 'some article' doesn't mean anything, it could be any yokel spouting off about something he really doesn't know crap about.

caddywumpus
08-26-2008, 12:46 AM
Until you see statistical evidence and peer-reviewed research then I would not be concerned. Just 'some article' doesn't mean anything, it could be any yokel spouting off about something he really doesn't know crap about.

...much like the people on all of those OTHER drum forums floating around the internet. DW rules! Whoo!

Gyrefalcon
08-26-2008, 04:17 AM
I've been playing either with just socks or barefooted for over 30 yrs. never had a problem.
as a matter a fact played a outside gig yesterday barefooted still no problems.

the only problem is stubbing your toe on a cymbal or hi-hat stand trying to get behind your kit LOL

Bonzolead

And cracking a toe nail on the side post of the pedal (happened to me once).

k3ng
08-26-2008, 07:27 AM
And playing without a helmet can give you lockjaw.

mrchattr
08-26-2008, 03:35 PM
I never play barefoot. Hate it.
I've never had foot problems.

Therefore, not playing barefoot will lead to you not having foot problems, so playing barefoot must hurt your feet.

:-D

Drumsword
08-26-2008, 03:59 PM
I've been playing either with just socks or barefooted for over 30 yrs. never had a problem.
as a matter a fact played a outside gig yesterday barefooted still no problems.

the only problem is stubbing your toe on a cymbal or hi-hat stand trying to get behind your kit LOL

Bonzolead

I second that, I've been doing it 24 years. NO probs yet, although I did stub my toe and fall down stairs once.

slingerland755
08-26-2008, 04:12 PM
I second that, I've been doing it 24 years. NO probs yet, although I did stub my toe and fall down stairs once.

LOL,
That's funny guys. Kind of like this thread. Playing barefoot will not hurt your feet whatsoever (unless your an idiot of course).

bonzolead
08-26-2008, 04:23 PM
I never play barefoot. Hate it.
I've never had foot problems.

Therefore, not playing barefoot will lead to you not having foot problems, so playing barefoot must hurt your feet.

:-DIf you stub you toe or crack a toe nail LOL hey i'll play my drums with 6-inch platforms if I want I just prefer no shoes LOL.I'm not saying it's right or wrong everybody has their own preferences I just never had any problems.


Bonzolead

sticky.widget
08-26-2008, 04:32 PM
Cripes. One more thing to have to worry about. I had to immediately place it #4 on my list of things to remember not to do every day.

...sitting too close to the TV causes blindness.
...crossing your eyes too much will eventually make them stay that way.
...talking on your cell phone too much causes cancer.
...drumming barefoot causes serious damage to your feet.
...not buckling your seat belt makes it easier for the aliens to suck you out of the car.

Thanks for scaring me back into having to wear shoes behind my kit.

Drum-Head
08-26-2008, 06:11 PM
Actually what you heard is not BS, on the contrary of what many seem to think here. Go ask a podiatrist - you can (notice I did not use the verb "will") develop arch problems because there is nothing supporting the arch of the foot when playing barefooted. Some people who play hard even get bruises on the ball of their feet.

Just like one should use good technique with his hands in order to not hurt himself, the same goes for playing barefooted.

Drumsword
08-26-2008, 06:25 PM
LOL,
That's funny guys. Kind of like this thread. Playing barefoot will not hurt your feet whatsoever (unless your an idiot of course).

I resemble that remark ;)

kjsm
08-27-2008, 08:24 PM
Actually what you heard is not BS, on the contrary of what many seem to think here. Go ask a podiatrist - you can (notice I did not use the verb "will") develop arch problems because there is nothing supporting the arch of the foot when playing barefooted. Some people who play hard even get bruises on the ball of their feet.

Just like one should use good technique with his hands in order to not hurt himself, the same goes for playing barefooted.

fact
fact
f-f-f' fact
how many dissenters here can prove their thoughts more than the contrary?
zactly.

drumhead61
08-27-2008, 08:57 PM
Well, I am starting off right then, I already have the glorious priveledge of having nerve damage in both my feet and therefore will not matter if I play with shoes or not I will still hurt and who cares...I will play anyway just like I have to walk! BUT, if you do not want foot problems don't run barefoot on gravel, glass, or rocks!

rmandelbaum
08-28-2008, 02:06 AM
30+ years and I only wear socks, my feet are fine, well I mean on my feet ;-)

Deathmetalconga
08-28-2008, 02:20 AM
No.... I don't believe stuff like that for a second. You'd have to have horrible technique to really hurt yourself. Even then, if you are playing poorly enough to hurt yourself, then it doesn't matter what you have on your feet...

This is like the glove debate in a way. Use em' if you think they actually help, but don't tell me for a second that I should or shouldn't.

Shoes or gloves might help you from developing callouses depending on the style of music you are playing, or your technique, but if you know yourself and your body, you should develop your playing to keep from hurting yourself.

Agreed, it sounds silly. Walking or running puts much more stress on the feet than drumming.

Drum-Head
08-28-2008, 02:24 AM
Agreed, it sounds silly. Walking or running puts much more stress on the feet than drumming.

Your point doesn't make sens - your feet are supported with shoes when doing walking or running. Try running barefooted and you'll understand.

Again, podiatrists (who are doctors specialized in feet and lower leg issues for those who don't know) seem to have another point of view not based on just opinion like I seem to read in this thread. And please guys, don't come up with another conspiracy theory about the podiatrist lobby trying to get that out so they can earn more money ugh! I see that one coming...

Don't get me wrong, you can of course play barefooted, but don't overlook the fact that you can hurt yourself. Just like with hand technique, it's when one just "does it" thinking he is invincible or underestimating the strain that you can put on your body, that horror stories about pains and other problems occur.

PQleyR
08-28-2008, 02:33 AM
If it was bad for you, wouldn't it hurt in some way? Things that are bad for you generally do, but most people are very good at not noticing what their body tells them.

Deathmetalconga
08-28-2008, 09:23 AM
Your point doesn't make sens - your feet are supported with shoes when doing walking or running. Try running barefooted and you'll understand.

Again, podiatrists (who are doctors specialized in feet and lower leg issues for those who don't know) seem to have another point of view not based on just opinion like I seem to read in this thread. And please guys, don't come up with another conspiracy theory about the podiatrist lobby trying to get that out so they can earn more money ugh! I see that one coming...

Don't get me wrong, you can of course play barefooted, but don't overlook the fact that you can hurt yourself. Just like with hand technique, it's when one just "does it" thinking he is invincible or underestimating the strain that you can put on your body, that horror stories about pains and other problems occur.

You are right, running or walking barefoot is bad for the feet too (unless you are on grass or soft dirt all the time).

While I wouldn't rule out foot problems from drumming, it just seems like the feet and knees would be the least likely part to get hurt. I've never heard of foot problems from drumming from anyone - barefoot or shod. Back, shoulder, neck, hand, elbow, wrist, hip and finger problems are more likely and I hear about them all the time. Unless you're playing Terry Bozzio's set, your feet really don't move side-to-side much, they don't have to go to many different places and you're not putting much weight on the feet or moving them through an extreme range of motion. I would think repetitive strain injuries would be most likely to happen with the feet but I don't know if shoes would help or hurt that.

Wavelength
08-28-2008, 09:36 AM
The biggest risks of barefoot injury comes from playing heel up (maybe with an overly steep angle to boot), using excessive force, pounding the beater into the drum head and burying it there. This will transfer a lot of impact energy into a fairly small area of your foot, which can lead to bruises or even small fractures

I have to point, though, that the main reason for these injuries would be BAD TECHNIQUE, not the lack of shoes. Shoes can dissipate the shock a bit better and bad technique has less of an effect on your feet, but the shock will still transfer to your knees. So, play with proper technique and you'll be just fine in any clothing.

Foof
09-01-2008, 06:10 AM
I've been playing shoeless for over 40 years.Mostly with socks on,very little barefoot.I took some shoe/foot pads(foam & gel) & taped them to the pedal.Pain problem gone.

LM201
09-01-2008, 06:55 AM
I've never heard of such a thing. The only thing I've experienced is I have a lot of calluses on my feet from after two years of double bass on some bad pedals. Well not really bad, they were just DW 7000s that just scraped up my feet somehow.

beatsMcGee
09-04-2008, 07:07 PM
with refined techique and such, your feet should not be "pounding" on any pedals... infact with correct technique your foot doesnt leave the pedal surface completely (maybe slightly for heel-toe for fractions of a mili second at a time etc..). as far as your arches and such not being supported while your drumming really doesnt hold that much water to me beacuse your not exerting a significant amount of weight on your feet (again with proper technique) for your arches to be stressed.

its like worrying if your going to break your neck while your sleeping... sure it COULD happen--you could fall out of your bed at just the right angle and snap your neck--but is it likely and should you worry about it? No.

continue to play barefoot I say... the worse that could happen is you'll have to develope some callouses if your feet are to sensitive.

groovemaster_flex
09-07-2008, 06:51 AM
I dont believe it either. Unless my drum teacher came up to me and said, "You shouldn't go barefeet while playing drums" and then listed off thousands of professional drummers who said this and gave an explanation as to why, I wouldn't believe it. I play barefeet all the time, and I dont think it's affected my playing negatively in any way. As a matter of fact, sometimes I play barefeet live, but I always keep a pair of sneakers nearby, in case somebody breaks some beer bottles on the stage.

Drumyourfaceoff
09-18-2008, 06:38 AM
How about... It's just gross. Gross for your feet. Gross for the pedal. Nuff said.

jjmason777
09-18-2008, 08:58 AM
How about... It's just gross. Gross for your feet. Gross for the pedal. Nuff said.

Yea, you could get athletes foot if you share pedals. Oh, and don't sit on your throne without the seat on top!

crdirtRider856
09-18-2008, 10:22 AM
How about... It's just gross. Gross for your feet. Gross for the pedal. Nuff said.

Soooo you re sayin you never wash your feet? Or never clean your pedal?

Sharing pedals shouldnt be a problem either because if you re sharing a kit, you should be bringing your own pedal(and snare,sticks, and cymbals).

DamoSyzygy
09-18-2008, 10:52 AM
Playing barefoot is not a problem. The weight isnt even on your feet.

To be honest Id be a lot more concerned with running in shoes than sitting barefoot.

mallendion
09-18-2008, 08:48 PM
I play in socks or barefeet because that is how I live at home. Unfortunately it sounds like I may be at greater risk walking around without support on the hard wood and linoleum floors of Castle Endion than while sitting on the throne - drum or other. And the toe stubbings? Never has a drum kit done to my toes the damage inflicted by the average door frame or table leg!

I did have an instructor recommend wearing shoes while practicing once. However that was when I was starting out. I would sometimes take off my shoes while using his kit when I would begin stumbling on the faster base rythms. In retrospect I don't think the recommendation was because he was concerned for my health.

bonzolead
09-18-2008, 08:53 PM
Plain & simple,Myself i don't. get the same response on my bass & hi-hat pedals with my shoes on as when I do with my shoes off.the pedals play better with my shoes off.

Bonzolead

don strandberg
09-20-2008, 01:44 AM
I practice at home bare foot. And the feel is great. Kinda like tossing the condom out the window. lol. On jobs I were shoes. I suppose just to look respectable to the audiance.
Saying that. There are shoes I cant play a lick on. And some have great feel.

jazzkidding
12-30-2008, 06:33 PM
Socks in the winter and bare foot in the summer. The drumming socks I prefer are thick, because the thin ones get holes in them very quickly in the heel and ball area. I have considered very light running shoes, but I have not spent the time to look into that. I could not imagine drumming with street shoes. I would hate that feel of constriction when drumming.
The only problem I can think of is the unpleasant odour from their feet for some people.