The 1 tune that defines death metal?

[jay norem]

Let's say that Abraham Lincoln was somehow brought back to life, and he came up to your house (or apartment), knocked on the door and, since you were home, you answered the door and there stands old Abe.
Abe asks you this question: "What is death metal?"
What song would you play for former-president Lincoln, and why?

[Jason Schenk]

War Ensemble - Slayer

Why? Because IMHO it's Death at it's finest!

[jay norem]

War Ensemble - Slayer

Why? Because IMHO it's Death at it's finest!

Wow. It certainly is impressive. These guys can play, very tight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnNwykfIWQw

[bballdrummer34]

Now you've done it.
2020202020

[caddywumpus]

Fly Me To The Moon. Without a doubt.

...is that what you were looking for, Mr. Norem?

[burnthehero]

"Hammer Smashed Face" by Cannibal Corpse.

Why? Because it's called Hammer Smashed Face.

[Ironcobra]

I think Cold hate, Warm blood by Crytopsy is death metal at its most extreme, if that helps.

[jay norem]

"Hammer Smashed Face" by Cannibal Corpse.

Why? Because it's called Hammer Smashed Face.

Yes, that is indeed a very good one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTpQOZcNASw

[jay norem]

I think Cold hate, Warm blood by Crytopsy is death metal at its most extreme, if that helps.

Yes it does help. It helps a great deal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMd8BN1Xt_8

[crdirtRider856]

One song will rip your face into little shreads of skin and flesh, along with bits of eyeball matter and cartilege(nose ring intact) and that is ----- Yellow, by Coldplay. Dont believe me? Play it at 300Db and let me know the outcome. Good luck! : P

[Nodiggie]

Let's say that Abraham Lincoln was somehow brought back to life, and he came up to your house (or apartment), knocked on the door and, since you were home, you answered the door and there stands old Abe.
Abe asks you this question: "What is death metal?"
What song would you play for former-president Lincoln, and why?

My prediction is, this is not going to turn out the way you intended it. lol

[Ironcobra]

Yes it does help. It helps a great deal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMd8BN1Xt_8

That's not the song, strangely.

Try this http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=PluKQiJ50iY&feature=related

[Drumsword]

Anything by Barry Manilow...............

[Derek Roddy]

Slayer isn't Death Metal......... As far as the "genre" is concerned.

That said.....I say that the band "Death" (any recording) would be a good start.
After that......Morbid Angel has released the most quality DM over the long haul.
Chapel of ghouls, Maze of Torment, etc....all great DM tunes.

A good place to start,
As these 2 bands....were 2 of the first.... who really started the genre .

Cheers.
D.

[kwolf68]

Death is a great place to start, but Id like to throw my hat into the ring for Obituary's "Dying" and "Find the Arise" ... two separate songs, but I love the way they fit together on the "Cause of Death" album.

My favorite death metal band by far is Obituary...I even liked their slower stuff like the CD "World Demise" which was awesome.

[Jason Schenk]

Slayer isn't Death Metal......... As far as the "genre" is concerned.

Yeah, I guess Slayer was thrash huh? Ok I'll change my vote to "Stripped, Raped & Strangled" by Cannibal Corpse.

[drumtechdad]

This one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJl5-82JarE)

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[turbinesaint]

Play him some Nile and tell him to watch George Kollias. That should be a pretty good definition for good ole Abe.

[driver]

You Suffer by Napalm Death

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=S_Bqt9uzKDY

[PQleyR]

I would have thought Mr Lincoln would know what death metal was.



*waits*

[Jsk36]

It all sounds the same, not much originality for metal now.

[Jsk36]

This one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJl5-82JarE)

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[rolander]

yeah slayer aren't death, they're thrash. sorry, don't mean to be whiny. war ensemble is a killer tune to play. i'd vote slit your gut's off cryptopsy's 'none so vile' even though my favourite track on that album is benedictine convulsions. but to me that whole album is just the best death metal i've heard. hammer smashed face is an old chestnut, great to play too. deicide, morbid angel, origin, and of course nile. derek roddy's stuff on nile's 'black seeds of vengeance' is amazing. i think tracks seven, multitude of foes, through to track ten are some of the most underrated dm tracks out there. not your usual lengthy, elaborate nile stuff, just straight, no bull death metal. check em out.

[jay norem]

yeah slayer aren't death, they're thrash.

Well, exactly. How can you define death metal really? Now, I could say that this is death metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2s6LZUdYaU

Don't see why anyone would have a problem with that. Would they?

[Nodiggie]

Well, exactly. How can you define death metal really? Now, I could say that this is death metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2s6LZUdYaU

Don't see why anyone would have a problem with that. Would they?

Nope, sorry Jay, but it didn't quite make me want to kill someone! lol

I have noticed this is becoming entertaining after all...lol

[jay norem]

Nope, sorry Jay, but it didn't quite make me want to kill someone! lol

I have noticed this is becoming entertaining after all...lol

Fair enough, Nodiggie. I may not know anything about death metal, but that doesn't stop me from having a lot of uninformed opinions about it. Anyway, I've heard all of the songs that have been posted here so makes me something of an expert, I'd think.
You could say that everything is death metal, couldn't you? After all, no less than Hume wrote:
"All ills spring from some vice, either in ourselves or others; and even many of our diseases proceed from the same origin. Remove the vices; and the ills follow. You must only take care to remove all the vices. If you remove part, you may render the matter worse. By banishing vicious luxury, without curing sloth and an indifference to others, you only diminish industry in the state, and add nothing to men's charity or their generosity."
See what I mean? Aw come on, don't you?

[Nodiggie]

Fair enough, Nodiggie. I may not know anything about death metal, but that doesn't stop me from having a lot of uninformed opinions about it. Anyway, I've heard all of the songs that have been posted here so makes me something of an expert, I'd think.
You could say that everything is death metal, couldn't you? After all, no less than Hume wrote:
"All ills spring from some vice, either in ourselves or others; and even many of our diseases proceed from the same origin. Remove the vices; and the ills follow. You must only take care to remove all the vices. If you remove part, you may render the matter worse. By banishing vicious luxury, without curing sloth and an indifference to others, you only diminish industry in the state, and add nothing to men's charity or their generosity."
See what I mean? Aw come on, don't you?

lol...thats very good...:)... I know nothing about death metal either...all I know is, when I listen to certain forms or "styles" of metal...some tunes make me want to hurt someone...that I suppose would be considered "Death Metal" lol.....

[jay norem]

Well if you're looking for music that makes you want to hurt someone here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ao8vIrzYto&feature=related

[Nodiggie]

lmao...thats too funny

[jay norem]

This one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJl5-82JarE)

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Fantastic! How can you go wrong with lyrics like these:

Torsos hang from their own intestines
Raped of all bodily extentions, stumps wreathing in a sludge
Like infection
Suffering through a Rancid amputation
A pulsating artery accomanied by some veins, slit with no restraint
Sacs of pus develop
My muscles tighten as I feel the rush
I look at your body starting gush

I slice through the limb,
a human dissection portions of half-eaten flesh in my mouth
starting to chew your now bleeding stump

I will swallow your pus your own rectal slime
I'll force you to drink
Vessels explode as needles injected
Uncontrollable
My brain tormented
Slit from head to toe, die through the torture
Disease engulfs you
Internal rot
Fresh cut wounds, beginning to clot
Ripping through flesh is what I do best
Tear off an arm
Amputated neck
Eyes removed, cranium smashed
Decomposing remains, severed in half
Dying slowly never to rest, nerves are quivering as I trip
Removal of life on the blade of my knife
Inserted in your spine, smashing through bone
Feel my hell, I feed on fright
Rape the limbless cadaver

[Nodiggie]

so, did we declare a winner? lol

[jay norem]

so, did we declare a winner? lol

Yeah, well I'm going with "Rancid Amputation." Okay, maybe I need to think about this some more...

[bballdrummer34]

Interstellar Space

Just turn it up real loud. You'll see what I mean. he

[m1ck]

Anything by Dethklok. (If melodeath counts.)

Bloodrocuted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UosmKd1krWU

Go Forth and Die
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRQFWVqbKBw

Just search Dethklok for more.

[brittc89]

Interstellar Space

Just turn it up real loud. You'll see what I mean. he

I second that. When I listen to that album, sometimes I wanna do horrible things to people

[The Colonel]

I think metal is inspired by Tolkien more than anything else...


If goblins had iPods, they'd be pillaging to metal.

[lochday]

Well, exactly. How can you define death metal really? Now, I could say that this is death metal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2s6LZUdYaU

Don't see why anyone would have a problem with that. Would they?

Epistrophy Death metal?!
May be.
After all Ben Riley's a great DM drummer and he can be heard on the vid of this great Monk tune...
LOL

[m1ck]

...
If goblins had iPods, they'd be pillaging to metal.

LOL! Vikings, too.

I was in the Air Force during Gulf War I, and while I didn't work anywhere near aircraft, it was commonly reported that metal was the music of choice when the pilots were gearing up for bombing runs.

I went to a cage fight a while ago, and most of the fighters made their entrance to metal selections.

I expect that ol' Abe would have some follow-up questions upon his initial education. You'd have to explain like this: "Mr. President, you remember when General Sherman burned Atlanta to the ground and then marched to the sea, destroying everything in his path? Well, think of death metal as the theme song for that."

Death metal - music to burn cities by.

[bobdadruma]

I have often thought about this. Gene Krupa Is one of the many drummers that I study and learn from. Anyway, Here goes. If a contemporary metal drummer could go back in time with his kit to Gene Krupa's wood shed in let's say, Oh, the mid 1930s. How long do you think that it would take before Gene was sitting behind the metal drummers kit trying to see how fast he could play his bass pedals? Trying the numerous cymbals, Smashing! Thrashing! And just plain havin fun! I can see Gene in my mind know, Young Gene, Blasting away at lighting speed playing more drums than he had ever seen before in one room! Wouldn't that be cool. I mean when the metal drummer explained the future of drumming to him. I think that he would be out of his mind with excitement.

[LM201]

I think Cold hate, Warm blood by Crytopsy is death metal at its most extreme, if that helps.

I like old Cyptopsy. Have you heard their new CD? Sounds like a terrible Hardcore band(no offense to some people!)

If there was one song I'd choose it would be...
I want to hold your hand- The beatles, or
Maddening Disdain- Arsis

[stasz]

As funny as this whole thread is (I certainly got more than a couple good laughs) I got the point. Take a step back and see... Epistrophy is not death metal. Epistrophy is called jazz. It's called that because that's what jazz is, and jazz is not death metal. Everything makes sense and fits together. My official contribution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ack63JT_nrE

[m1ck]

... My official contribution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ack63JT_nrE

Dude, that's a very cool jam. Pity you can't see the drummer. I even see a guy swatting a doumbek in the back!

[lochday]

As funny as this whole thread is (I certainly got more than a couple good laughs) I got the point. Take a step back and see... Epistrophy is not death metal. Epistrophy is called jazz. It's called that because that's what jazz is, and jazz is not death metal. Everything makes sense and fits together. My official contribution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ack63JT_nrE

This thread IS funny and enjoyable at the same time. And we are learning a couple of things. BTW I thought your official contribution was Epistrophy, but it was not. How wrong was I! IHa ha, it was classical second line dixieland, wasn't it?

[prempex]

I'd tell Abe to listen to Manic Demise by Malevolent Creation, King Roddy would know this one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrR57c00Cbc

sorry about the videoclip. im not much of a fan of Bam Margera, but thats all i could find with decent audio.

[murphinelli]

Fantastic! How can you go wrong with lyrics like these:

Torsos hang from their own intestines
Raped of all bodily extentions, stumps wreathing in a sludge
Like infection
Suffering through a Rancid amputation
A pulsating artery accomanied by some veins, slit with no restraint
Sacs of pus develop
My muscles tighten as I feel the rush
I look at your body starting gush

I slice through the limb,
a human dissection portions of half-eaten flesh in my mouth
starting to chew your now bleeding stump

I will swallow your pus your own rectal slime
I'll force you to drink
Vessels explode as needles injected
Uncontrollable
My brain tormented
Slit from head to toe, die through the torture
Disease engulfs you
Internal rot
Fresh cut wounds, beginning to clot
Ripping through flesh is what I do best
Tear off an arm
Amputated neck
Eyes removed, cranium smashed
Decomposing remains, severed in half
Dying slowly never to rest, nerves are quivering as I trip
Removal of life on the blade of my knife
Inserted in your spine, smashing through bone
Feel my hell, I feed on fright
Rape the limbless cadaver

If these are typical lyrics of death metal....Lord save us. I take back all the negative things I've ever said about hip hop lyrics. If kids are listening to this death metal music these days...they need help. This is disgusting. This is not music.

[Tutin]

Anything by Dethklok. (If melodeath counts.)

Bloodrocuted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UosmKd1krWU

Go Forth and Die
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRQFWVqbKBw

Just search Dethklok for more.

If Melodic DM was allowed I think Carcass would win with anything from Heartwork.

Otherwise, I think Derek hit it on the head with Morbid Angel, they're like the kings. Death are good too, but I think MA take the trophy.

T

[schist]

If these are typical lyrics of death metal....Lord save us. I take back all the negative things I've ever said about hip hop lyrics. If kids are listening to this death metal music these days...they need help. This is disgusting. This is not music.

Excuse me?

Who are you to judge a whole genre as not being music based on the tongue-in-cheek lyrics to a song from one death metal band? Not every DM band writes lyrics about gore, you know. There are, for instance, bands with esoteric lyrical themes (Decrepit Birth, Origin), lyrics about environmental/world issues (Gojira) and metaphysical/fantasy lyric themes (Psycroptic). Hell, there are even Christian death metal bands (Mortification, Scourged Flesh)!

Seems to me like you're just another everyday moralist fundie seeking to restrict people's freedoms. If the kids wanna listen to death metal music, let them. If they wanna listen to hip-hop music, let them. There are far more horrific things in the world today than people making death metal/rap music, you know.

[Ian Williams]

Glen Benton - Deicide.

[TheGroceryman]

ha, you know whats funny, 2 days after i read those lyrics from jay norem and from reading this whole thread, i got a really nasty nightmare in which a whole room of people were desecrated by one man, and i was running for my life when i woke up. probably why i was never into death metal...to each his own i guess.

[zambizzi]

Pour Some Sugar On Me - Def Leppard

[franklinj]

I think I would say Crystal Mountain by Death or Pursuit Revised by Malevolent Creation.

[Tutin]

Glen Benton - Deicide.

Thread ends here. Glen Benton is a tune.

[7DaysToTheWolves]

Thread ends here. Glen Benton is a tune.

Amen to that, couldn't have said it better.

[The Colonel]

But let's push on some.

[metal overlord]

Behemoth - Conquer All
Arsis - We are the nightmare
Opeth - Heir Apperant
Cannibal Corpse - Hammer Smashed Face



Oh and the whole Slayer isn't death metal thing.
Their music is thrash, their lyrics can be consittered "death" lyrics, I geuss.

[stasz]

Dude, that's a very cool jam. Pity you can't see the drummer. I even see a guy swatting a doumbek in the back!

I love it!! It's even better with the whole band setup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO9R1NBCyMM&feature=related) and not just at a border's like the video from my original post. And there is a percussionist in the band too.

[LM201]

Behemoth - Conquer All
Arsis - We are the nightmare
Heir Apperant - Opeth
Hammer Smashed Face - Cannibal Corpse


Oh and the whole Slayer isn't death metal thing.
Their music is thrash, their lyrics can be consittered "death" lyrics, I geuss.

Oh my God. I love you

[jay norem]

You guys all seem very positive and quite serious about the music, and I do appreciate your contributions to this thread.
Question: why do you think that a lot of people who know nothing about this kind of music have the image of it being stupid and violent and mainly played by dumb-ass mouth-breathing morons?
Of course I understand why someone would find those "Rancid Amputation" lyrics offensive, but I don't think that this band is advocating a hellish scenario like that taking place in the local shopping mall.
Also, it seems to me that the musicianship displayed in death metal, at least on a technical level, far surpasses that of the ability of the guys who play in, for example, Coldplay, a band that I find sickening to the extreme.

[7DaysToTheWolves]

You guys all seem very positive and quite serious about the music, and I do appreciate your contributions to this thread.
Question: why do you think that a lot of people who know nothing about this kind of music have the image of it being stupid and violent and mainly played by dumb-ass mouth-breathing morons?
Of course I understand why someone would find those "Rancid Amputation" lyrics offensive, but I don't think that this band is advocating a hellish scenario like that taking place in the local shopping mall.
Also, it seems to me that the musicianship displayed in death metal, at least on a technical level, far surpasses that of the ability of the guys who play in, for example, Coldplay, a band that I find sickening to the extreme.

Because it's the stupid kids who walk around in Slayer shirts at school who are bombing their classes and are constantly put in the principle's office. I guess that's what the world views the metalheads of today as.

[jay norem]

Because it's the stupid kids who walk around in Slayer shirts at school who are bombing their classes and are constantly put in the principle's office. I guess that's what the world views the metalheads of today as.

Interesting. So it's the juvinile delinquents? Well, it's got to be more than that really. After all, some of these metal drummers are quite highly regarded musicians, with chops to burn. That shows dedication and accomplishment.
And we all know that grinding loud hardcore fast stuff is accepted as an offspring of punk, and punk is almost mainstream these days.
No, I think it's the lyrics. I think it's the whole conceit of the Viking/barbarian blood-lust bottom-of-hell imagery of the lyrical content that puts this kind of music in the place it is. Let's face it, those amputation lyrics aren't at all uplifting.
But of course I'm a 55 year old jazz drummer and I don't really get it. But I very much appreciate the skill it takes to pull that music, those licks and those beats, to pull all that off. And I hope that the people who listen to this music, those kids who wear the T-shirts, appreciate it as well. Because there's some really impressive stuff going on in there.

[metal overlord]

Because it's the stupid kids who walk around in Slayer shirts at school who are bombing their classes and are constantly put in the principle's office. I guess that's what the world views the metalheads of today as.

I were my bands shirts proudly (mostly) everyday out of work.
But I was never "that" kid during school, or school now.

I dont bomb classes because I know if I don't make it big I need something to fall back on.
I mean, sometime I can get pissed beyond pissed, but normally...I try to avoid that.

[jay norem]

I mean, sometime I can get pissed beyond pissed, but normally...I try to avoid that.

Okay, M.O. now we're talking. What do you get pissed off about? Seems to me that this is what you need to be writing lyrics about, not stuffing corpses into furnaces, see what I mean?

[metal overlord]

Okay, M.O. now we're talking. What do you get pissed off about? Seems to me that this is what you need to be writing lyrics about, not stuffing corpses into furnaces, see what I mean?


Well, I'm not much of a song writer lyric wise.

I get pissed at ignorant people, people who make fun of me (those people normally get a fist to the face though), racist people, people who think their better than anyone else...and so on.

But yea, I see what you mean.

[jay norem]

I get pissed at ignorant people, people who make fun of me (those people normally get a fist to the face though), racist people, people who think

Excellent. Don't put the fist to the face. Put the words on the paper! And put that crazy ass music you cats play to the lyrics!

[metal overlord]

Excellent. Don't put the fist to the face. Put the words on the paper! And put that crazy ass music you cats play to the lyrics!


THANK YOU!

I had just started to write lyrics for my very first orginal song that I wrote by myself, and I'm going to call it "Fist to the Face"! But...I don't have any clue what it should be about...

I just recently joined a new band (I've gone through 3 so far), and this ones the best.

I made rules for myself:
Like the music
Like the guys

these guys fit both, hopefully they'll like my song!

Anyway, I only hit people that push me too far. They deserve it.

[jay norem]

Anyway, I only hit people that push me too far. They deserve it.

So stop hitting people and start writing, my friend!
I'm sorry to say this, but hitting people is stupid.
How about metal music setting an example for non-violence? Can you imagine that? Take all that anger and channel it into something positive. And then, play the hell out of it!
You cats are smart enough to work up those remarkable blast-beats. So you're also smart enough to put a more positive message across. Imagine, say, The Beatles playing metal! Well, maybe that's going a bit too far. See, I'm an old guy.

[Tutin]

So stop hitting people and start writing, my friend!
I'm sorry to say this, but hitting people is stupid.
How about metal music setting an example for non-violence? Can you imagine that? Take all that anger and channel it into something positive. And then, play the hell out of it!
You cats are smart enough to work up those remarkable blast-beats. So you're also smart enough to put a more positive message across. Imagine, say, The Beatles playing metal! Well, maybe that's going a bit too far. See, I'm an old guy.

Hitting people isn't stupid. People driving you to hitting them is stupid. I'm not advocating violence, just saying that no matter how hard you try to keep your cool, there'll be a point where you can be driven to use it.

But yes, you can totally use stuff like this positively. Here's a good example from my man Dez.

http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858496602

[metal overlord]

There are a few songs about positive stuff, and their all pretty good.

But, Tutin is right. People can keep their cool, but if they push you to the breaking point, it's hard to keep cool.


Anyway, how would you write a "positive" metal song?
Thats the point of metal, anger, hatred. Positive metal would be wierd (but maybe, premote non-violence?).

[Ian Williams]

Thread ends here. Glen Benton is a tune.

Thanks, mate!

Ian

[m1ck]

You guys all seem very positive and quite serious about the music, and I do appreciate your contributions to this thread.
Question: why do you think that a lot of people who know nothing about this kind of music have the image of it being stupid and violent and mainly played by dumb-ass mouth-breathing morons? Of course I understand why someone would find those "Rancid Amputation" lyrics offensive, but I don't think that this band is advocating a hellish scenario like that taking place in the local shopping mall.

I think these bands know their audience and find mischievous humor in offending everyone else. I suspect that murphinelli's response, above, is exactly what they were hoping to provoke with the Rancid lyrics.

And really, the sound of extreme metal IS primal, raw and dark. It carries an intense energy that a lot of people just don't feel or respond to, and the guys that play it know this better than anyone. It's a subculture of people with the "Highway to Hell" mentality; they understand each other and as for the people who don't - the more offended they are, the better. So in a sense - to answer your question - the image they have is of their own making.

Also, it seems to me that the musicianship displayed in death metal, at least on a technical level, far surpasses that of the ability of the guys who play in, for example, Coldplay, a band that I find sickening to the extreme.

It's cool that you're open-minded enough to acknowledge this, regardless of whether you actually "get it" - and no one expects you to, if you don't. But you are right - metal in all it's incarnations can be highly demanding of musicianship. Some of the most legendary guitarists and drummers have sprung out of the metal scene. Critics say "it's just noise" - but try to play it like the pros. It's hard.

Grip Inc. - Curse of the Cloth (groove metal, with Dave Lombardo on drums)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfvHBeBSM24

And yes, a lot of popular music is insipid.

[Ian Williams]

Fellows,

1 more tune: King Diamond - Mercyfulfate.

All the Best,

[Ian Williams]

The Dark, Sinister and Heavy style it began with Black Sabbath....War Pigs.

All the Best,

[Alex949]

Rapture by Morbid Angel....Actually, anything off Covenant for that matter

[aruration]

There are a few songs about positive stuff, and their all pretty good.

But, Tutin is right. People can keep their cool, but if they push you to the breaking point, it's hard to keep cool.


Anyway, how would you write a "positive" metal song?
Thats the point of metal, anger, hatred. Positive metal would be wierd (but maybe, premote non-violence?).

Why dude? It doesn't have to be always about a hatred song
For example Gojira, as schist said previously their songs are "envirometal friendly".
Is anything about saving the enviroment not positive?

[m1ck]

Who says metal can't be positive? Here, this is one of the most positive songs I've heard in a long time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y39JehmZO4

[aruration]

HAHAUAHAUAHAUAHAUAHA

An anthem to beer yes! \m/

[metal overlord]

Why dude? It doesn't have to be always about a hatred song
For example Gojira, as schist said previously their songs are "envirometal friendly".
Is anything about saving the enviroment not positive?

Well, I probably could write positive stuff, but i've been stuck on the "hate" train for a while.
You can't really teach an old og new tricks. It's like if Dimmu Borgir started writing about how wonderful and great god is. It wouldn't be right or fitting for me.

I will give it a try though, just to see how it might work out.

[Tamascb10]

Theres this band called Through The Eyes of The Dead, they're basically a Cannibal Corpse ripoff, but they definetly ARE death metal.

[aruration]

Well, I probably could write positive stuff, but i've been stuck on the "hate" train for a while.
You can't really teach an old og new tricks. It's like if Dimmu Borgir started writing about how wonderful and great god is. It wouldn't be right or fitting for me.

I will give it a try though, just to see how it might work out.
Yeah that's true.

Anyway, let us know how it'll turn out.