heel technique?

[drummer girl09]

I'm not really sure where to post this thread at, but I have a question. I know the sliding technique for the bd. I use that. But I'm not sure that I fully understand on the heel technique. Can you either explain or give me the deffinition of it? Sorry if this is a stupid question. :/

[ermghoti]

Heel down, heel up, heel-toe?

[drummer girl09]

How many are there? How complicating is this? O.o

[mind_drummer]

If I understand your question right, what you're probably talk is the striking technique using the heel instead of flat foot. It mean you land your heel on base of the pedal board while keeping your toe up. The technique is mostly used with the heel-toe which is called heel-toe technique, its the combo of the heel technique but after you hit with heel then you slam your toes on the board giving a double stroke kind like.

[MattRitter]

I'm not really sure where to post this thread at, but I have a question. I know the sliding technique for the bd. I use that. But I'm not sure that I fully understand on the heel technique. Can you either explain or give me the deffinition of it? Sorry if this is a stupid question. :/

Hi, Drummer girl09

It sounds to me like you might need some basic definitions and instruction on common bass drum methods. As most people on this forum already know, I produced a DVD a few years ago on bass drum technique. It explains "heel down," "heel up," and a hybrid of the 2, which I call "Unburying The Beater" (strange name, but it makes sense when you see the video!). In the process, other topics such as drum positioning are also covered.

Click on the link below my name at the bottom of this message, and you can read all you want to know about the DVD I produced. If you think it might be helpful to you, I encourage you to get yourself a copy. I generally try to avoid playing salesman, but I'm mentioning this because I sincerely think the video might be just what you're looking for. After all, it's for drummers like you that I made the video in the first place!

In any case, best of luck with your drumming!

Matt Ritter
Bass Drum Techniques For Today's Drummer
www.UnBuryingTheBeater.com

[drummer girl09]

Thanks Matt. Then what is the thing that people debate on what John Bohnam uses on Good Times, Bad Times. Or just on any song. It was the slide technique and somethin else related to the heel.

[GrooveSlave]

Buy Matt's DVD. I highly recommend it. I've been working with it for about a month. I'm having to retool my technique a bit, but I'll be smokin' in the long run.

Thanks Matt.

[MattRitter]

Buy Matt's DVD. I highly recommend it. I've been working with it for about a month. I'm having to retool my technique a bit, but I'll be smokin' in the long run.

Thanks Matt.

Thanks, GrooveSlave! Keep me posted on how you make out with the techniques! Best of luck!

Matt Ritter
Bass Drum Techniques For Today's Drummer
www.UnBuryingTheBeater.com

[MattRitter]

Thanks Matt. Then what is the thing that people debate on what John Bohnam uses on Good Times, Bad Times. Or just on any song. It was the slide technique and somethin else related to the heel.


Hey, Drummer girl09

There has always been a lot of debate about Bonham's foot technique in "Good Times, Bad Times" because no one is completely sure how he did it. The available footage of him does not show his foot very clearly. So the mystery continues! However, in my DVD, I demonstrate my own version of how to play a rhythm like the one in "Good Times, Bad Times." From what little I have seen of Bonham's foot in various videos, I think perhaps he used a technique similar to the one that I demonstrate. Again, I'm not sure. No one is. But it's sure fun to think that he might have used a technique similar to my own!

Best of luck with your own bass drum journey!

Matt Ritter
Bass Drum Techniques For Today's Drummer
www.UnBuryingTheBeater.com

[Deltadrummer]

Hey, Drummer girl09

There has always been a lot of debate about Bonham's foot technique in "Good Times, Bad Times" because no one is completely sure how he did it. The available footage of him does not show his foot very clearly. So the mystery continues! However, in my DVD, I demonstrate my own version of how to play a rhythm like the one in "Good Times, Bad Times." From what little I have seen of Bonham's foot in various videos, I think perhaps he used a technique similar to the one that I demonstrate. Again, I'm not sure. No one is. But it's sure fun to think that he might have used a technique similar to my own!

Best of luck with your own bass drum journey!

Matt Ritter
Bass Drum Techniques For Today's Drummer
www.UnBuryingTheBeater.com


Matt,

I have several recordings of Zep; but have never heard GTBT live. But he often did the triplet thing at the end of Black Dog, perhaps at a slower tempo because I can actually do that; but GTBT is hit or miss. Do you now if there is a recording of him doing this live?

[MattRitter]

Matt,

I have several recordings of Zep; but have never heard GTBT live. But he often did the triplet thing at the end of Black Dog, perhaps at a slower tempo because I can actually do that; but GTBT is hit or miss. Do you now if there is a recording of him doing this live?

Hey, Ken!

Nice to hear from you as always. The GTBT version I'm familiar with is simply the studio album version. I can't recall if I've ever seen or heard a live version. Since I can't remember, it probably means the answer is no! I'll tell ya what, though - I've seen a ton of cool Bonham footage up on YouTube. Just yesterday, I saw a solo clip of him playing a segment from Max Roach's "The Drum Also Waltzes"! I couldn't believe it!

By the way, slightly off topic, but still related to famous drummers' techniques: My friend who studied with Gladstone said that the double stroke technique was sort of a stick drop for the first note followed by a little pull of the fingers for the second note. So, basically, it WAS like open/close. Now we know. Thought you'd be interested to hear this.

Hope you've been well.

Matt Ritter
Bass Drum Techniques For Today's Drummer
www.UnBuryingTheBeater.com

[drummer girl09]

Thanks for the replies and such. I am interested in your DVD, Matt. I will buy it one day, but not very soon unfortunatly. I can't buy it right now. But I do hope to buy it period. Thanks again for your time to answer my questions. Have a great weekend. =]

[acidfreak11]

if u go to drumclinic at the home page and scroll down, derick pope made a great video showing heel-toe technique that might be what your looking for

[drummer girl09]

if u go to drumclinic at the home page and scroll down, derick pope made a great video showing heel-toe technique that might be what your looking for



What's the actual site? On here?

[jotte]

Hi!

Here is a great tutorial showing the the bassdrum heel doubble stroke technique, step by step.

Learningdrum Education Start (http://www.learningdrum.com/drumeducation.html)

Choose module: Technique, in the left menu.
Choose chapter: Bassdrum, in the top menu.
Choose scene: # 4 Doublestroke Rocking Feet, in the bottom menu.

If you have any question about the tutorial you can post them at
the Learningdrum Drums And Percussion Forum (http://www.learningdrum.com/forum_eng/index.php)

All the best!

/ Jotte