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jeffdadrummer23
06-12-2008, 09:11 PM
Any suggestions for semi-beginer jazz books?

Class A Drummer
06-12-2008, 09:13 PM
Advanced Techniques for the modern drummer by Jim Chapin. That was the first book i ever looked at when starting jazz, and its absolutley amazing.

Muckster
06-12-2008, 09:38 PM
Advanced Techniques as mentioned above is mandatory.

"Studio / Jazz Drum Cookbook" by John Pickering

mind_drummer
06-12-2008, 10:04 PM
The only book coming into mind is "The Art of Bop Drumming" from John Riley

blade123
06-12-2008, 10:08 PM
Art of Bop Drumming

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Clayton_C
06-12-2008, 10:28 PM
As said before, The Art of Bop Drumming by John Riley.

At amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Art-Bop-Drumming-CD/dp/089898890X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213298904&sr=8-1

bballdrummer34
06-13-2008, 12:24 AM
As said before, The Art of Bop Drumming by John Riley.

At amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Art-Bop-Drumming-CD/dp/089898890X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1213298904&sr=8-1

Ditto
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jeffwj
06-13-2008, 06:41 AM
Joel Rothman's Jazz Bible of Coordination is very good.

http://www.steveweissmusic.com/product/1490/general-drumset-methods

Jeff

caddywumpus
06-13-2008, 06:04 PM
Art of Bop Drumming is great! The Chapin book is a not-so-close 2nd, IMO, but would work. The Art of Bop Drumming has some great text and explanations that Chapin doesn't.

gusty
06-14-2008, 04:26 AM
I'll 6th Art of Bop Drumming.

Wavelength
06-14-2008, 07:42 AM
Learn the basics with "Bop Drumming", then hone your skills by working on Ted Reed's "Syncopation".

KLittle123
06-14-2008, 08:00 AM
Jared Falk...


hardy har.

mhanon13
06-14-2008, 09:42 AM
I'd say get both of them... Jim Chapin's book and John Riley... both of them will help ya... i gues.. $15-25 for each book is nothing compared to the knowledge you may get if you dedicate a lot of time to it..

good luck mate!

Class A Drummer
06-15-2008, 12:31 AM
I'd say get both of them... Jim Chapin's book and John Riley... both of them will help ya... i gues.. $15-25 for each book is nothing compared to the knowledge you may get if you dedicate a lot of time to it..

good luck mate!

well said. Thats a great attitude to have if you really wanna enjoy drumming.

Deltadrummer
06-15-2008, 01:19 AM
There you go. :)

I would say that the Chapin book is more abstract and is good for working on independence. The Reed syncopation book is good for working on reading; but of course there are 1017 ways to go through that book for independence. What Riley is doing in his book is putting it in a musical context, "How do these ideas relate to musical structure/form?" "How can you use them melodically?" "How does it relate to what the other guys in the band are doing?" So if you go through John Riley's book and all you get out of it is, "I can play page 29!" you haven't really gotten much out of it.

caddywumpus
06-15-2008, 02:07 AM
There you go. :)

I would say that the Chapin book is more abstract and is good for working on independence. The Reed syncopation book is good for working on reading; but of course there are 1017 ways to go through that book for independence. What Riley is doing in his book is putting it in a musical context, "How do these ideas relate to musical structure/form?" "How can you use them melodically?" "How does it relate to what the other guys in the band are doing?" So if you go through John Riley's book and all you get out of it is, "I can play page 29!" you haven't really gotten much out of it.

Yeah, the Riley book is full of great independence-building exercises that borderline on being musical by themselves. The best way to learn about jazz and "when to play what" is by listening to the masters. Also, play the comp examples from the Riley book while listening to CDs. You'll learn to hear what works and what doesn't.

Deltadrummer
06-15-2008, 03:26 AM
Yeah, the Riley book is full of great independence-building exercises that borderline on being musical by themselves. The best way to learn about jazz and "when to play what" is by listening to the masters. Also, play the comp examples from the Riley book while listening to CDs. You'll learn to hear what works and what doesn't.

Yes, Riley takes you into thinking about it musically and listening to/playing with recordings so the next step is playing with actual, real musicians. :)

KLittle123
06-15-2008, 03:58 AM
I always liked Modern Jazz Drumming by Jack De Johnette, it's got oddles of text, but I don't know, Riley's book is good.