polyrythems

[drummingman]

does anybody know of any really good books for learning polyrythems on the drumset? something that starts at a beginner level and goes up to an advanced level?

[*JOHN FAVICCHIA *]

I used- pete magadini books as well as Gary Chaffee's books. Also the advanced section of my Elements book can help as well

[PinkZepplin]

Rhythm not Rythem


Poly-Rhythm

and i can't think of any books off of the top of my head

[FunkyJazzer]

I just bought Peter Magadini's book "Polyrhythms: A Musician's Guide".

It's a good book, and it addresses all different musicians, not just drummers. So they're just written out so you could practice them anywhere. I think this is a better starting point than learning how to apply polyrhythms to a drum set before you actually understand how they work. So yeah, that book's good. I think he HAS written a book on how to apply them to the drumset though...

Good luck,
Lloyd.

[drummingman]

I just bought Peter Magadini's book "Polyrhythms: A Musician's Guide".

It's a good book, and it addresses all different musicians, not just drummers. So they're just written out so you could practice them anywhere. I think this is a better starting point than learning how to apply polyrhythms to a drum set before you actually understand how they work. So yeah, that book's good. I think he HAS written a book on how to apply them to the drumset though...

Good luck,
Lloyd.
i also have the book "polyrhythms: a musicians guide" but i really did not find it that helpful because he does not really break down how the notes fall against each other very well. he just puts the examples and we have to try to figure it out from there.

[jeffwj]

I used- pete magadini books as well as Gary Chaffee's books. Also the advanced section of my Elements book can help as well

John,

Is your book out? If so, where can I get a copy?

Jeff

[mr_hayward_99]

feature drummer

gary chaffee - sticking and meter patterns

[ThisSpitefulSnake]

You can listen to Meshuggah too. The drummer (Tomas Haake) is insane with polyrythms and odd timing. I've been playing to their songs for quite a while now and I can play odd times and polyrythms well.

[drummingman]

the hardest part for me is knowing what determines where the notes fall when playing a polyrhythm. also, knowing how to break them up into further subdivisions other then the basic starting point is something that i really dont know how to do.
are any of you guys drum teachers that live in virginia that really understand polyrhythms? if so i would like to talk with you.

[Jeff Almeyda]

the hardest part for me is knowing what determines where the notes fall when playing a polyrhythm. also, knowing how to break them up into further subdivisions other then the basic starting point is something that i really dont know how to do.
are any of you guys drum teachers that live in virginia that really understand polyrhythms? if so i would like to talk with you.

I don't live out there but one big help for me was downloading a polyrhythmic metronome online.

There are free and shareware versions out there that work for Mac or PC. You just set one rate for one number (say 7) and the other ( say 2) and you can now hear what 7: 2 sounds like. Mine can go up to 19 with up to 4 voices simultaneously.

Dennis Chambers used a similar mechanical device called the Trinome which taught him this stuff. It's no longer made so use a software version.

Just google it and it'll come up.

[drummingman]

i was not able to find a free version to download.

[FunkyJazzer]

i also have the book "polyrhythms: a musicians guide" but i really did not find it that helpful because he does not really break down how the notes fall against each other very well. he just puts the examples and we have to try to figure it out from there.

Well he does talk about ratios etc which can get a bit confusing. But if you can grasp that, then learning which notes "fall" where is a bit of child's play. However, I do agree that's it's not the most helpful book in the world, I was a bit disappointed.

[Jeff Almeyda]

i was not able to find a free version to download.

Here's a shareware one which is free if you only use it for 10 min at a time. If you like it you can buy it for 14 bucks

http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/FractalTuneSmithy/

And here's Metropolis. A totally free one for Mac (This is what I use):
http://www.beausievers.com/