I've narrowed it down (somewhat)

[Tamascb10]

So, I'm now down to:

A Yamaha Oak Custom (red oak laquer)
22x18
10x8
12x9
16x16
14x5.5
For $1635

A Unix Birch kit (in Gold sparkle to black satin oil with black hardware)
22x18
8x8
10x8
12x10
16x16
For $1810

A Tama Starclassic Performer (red sparkle fade to black)
22x18
10x8
12x9
16x16
14x6
For $1250

Tama Starclassic B/B (red sparkle fade to black)
22x18
10x8
12x9
16x14
14x6
for $1600

Gretsch Renown Maple (cherry burst)
22x18
8x7
10x8
12x9
14x14
For $1300

Pearl Masters MCX (black stain)
22x18
10x8
12x9
16x16
For $1500

A Mapex Pro-M (red fade to black)
22x18
8x8
10x8
12x9
16x16
For around $1500 (I don't remember)
So, that's what i've narrowed it down to. I love the sound of all these kits, but I've never heard a Unix kit. I'm kind of leaning toward Unix, because he seems really good, and I get everything I want. I like the sound of both maple and birch, too.

[bojangleman]

Unix......the extra dollar is worth it, being stave. he does wonderfull work. you wont regret it.

Alex

[jayp]

Deffinatly go w/ unix, I was about to ask Frank what he would charge for a bop set, 18X14 12X8 14X14 with a natural to honey amber fade.

Franky??

[columbus]

I have a renown maple and love it, but i would go with the unix kit. you cant beat custom stave shells

[fourstringdrums]

Definitely go for the Unix if it is within your budget above all others.

[Michael G]

Woah people don't automatically jump the unix train.

Stave is a very different type of drum, it may or may not be to his liking.

[fourstringdrums]

Woah people don't automatically jump the unix train.

Stave is a very different type of drum, it may or may not be to his liking.

Judging by his choices, that probably won't matter to him. His choices are all over the place when it come to wood. Maple, Birch, Oak... As it seems like he'd like and appreciate a variety of different things, Unix would give him the best bang for the buck in a unique and custom product.

[JRH7]

Unix hands down. I would take a stave kit over any of the other kits.

[metal overlord]

I'm going to say Unix. For one, he's custom. Two, it's in your own custom color with your hardware (you told me all about this). Three, he makes amazing drums.

[Tamascb10]

Well, will the Unix kit sound better than lets say a Starclassic Performer? Because the only "main" differance is the fact it's a stave kit, which I don't think should change the sound much.

Same with the Renown and MCX, mainly not much differance exept shell disign (silver sealer vs whatever Pearl's was).

The B/B sounded very good, too. The B/B has tone, punch, attack, warmth, a nice ring, and a good balance of everything you want in a drum set.

The Oak Custom was nice. I loved the grain on it. The bass was amazing. But the toms didn't sound any better than an MCX/Renown/ B/B.

I've never played a Mapex kit, though.

[Tamascb10]

Judging by his choices, that probably won't matter to him. His choices are all over the place when it come to wood. Maple, Birch, Oak... As it seems like he'd like and appreciate a variety of different things, Unix would give him the best bang for the buck in a unique and custom product.

I love how you worded that, haha. I like many differant woods, each one has a unique charactaristic that I like and think sounds good.

[Class A Drummer]

Id say Gretsch Renown or Pearl Masters. Those are two of my favorite lines of drums. The sound on both of them are just so fantastic.

[Tamascb10]

Id say Gretsch Renown or Pearl Masters. Those are two of my favorite lines of drums. The sound on both of them are just so fantastic.

I think your one of the first people to take one of those over the Unix kit.

Anyway though, I agree with you. They do sound great.

[Class A Drummer]

I think your one of the first people to take one of those over the Unix kit.

Anyway though, I agree with you. They do sound great.
One reason for that is that ive never tried a Unix before.

[fourstringdrums]

One reason for that is that ive never tried a Unix before.

I'd say 99% of us haven't. Because he's custom, you either start with a snare or a full kit.

Those of us who really like Unix do so because of what we know of his construction and how staves sound.

[Tamascb10]

I'd say 99% of us haven't. Because he's custom, you either start with a snare or a full kit.

Those of us who really like Unix do so because of what we know of his construction and how staves sound.


Yeah, I'm still leaning towards that kit. It's in my budget, and he makes some amazing stuff. Sure its $210 more than the starclassic B/B, but what differance is that going to make?

[fourstringdrums]

Yeah, I'm still leaning towards that kit. It's in my budget, and he makes some amazing stuff. Sure its $210 more than the starclassic B/B, but what differance is that going to make?

Not a whole lot. You will be getting some that is EXACTLY what you want, is unique, and is helping out a fellow drummer running a small business.

[Big_Philly]

I'd go for either the Unix or the Starclassic B/B.

[Tamascb10]

I'd go for either the Unix or the Starclassic B/B.

That's actually my two favorites. The thing is, One sounds amazing, and the other is exactly what I want, unique, and has an unbeatable price for a custom drum.

[ZDrums24]

I have never tried stave drums, so I'm really unsure as to the advantages to the Unix drums.
Among the big name drums, I would lean towards the Starclassic performer (My dad and I each have one and we love them). I am a big birch fan because I find it very versitle and it has a beautiful sound when it comes to high energy music (which is what I seem to be playing a lot lately). They project a little better than maple due to the balance of the tone being a little higher.

[Tamascb10]

That's true. I like the punch and attack of birch. Makes wonderful, powerful bass drums.

[Ozzy Biz]

Well, will the Unix kit sound better than lets say a Starclassic Performer? Because the only "main" differance is the fact it's a stave kit, which I don't think should change the sound much.

Same with the Renown and MCX, mainly not much differance exept shell disign (silver sealer vs whatever Pearl's was).

The B/B sounded very good, too. The B/B has tone, punch, attack, warmth, a nice ring, and a good balance of everything you want in a drum set.

The Oak Custom was nice. I loved the grain on it. The bass was amazing. But the toms didn't sound any better than an MCX/Renown/ B/B.

I've never played a Mapex kit, though.

Well, the different shell construction will change the sound much more than the difference timber makes between any of the ply kits you mentioned. You think about the difference in sound between a 3 ply ludwig and a Sonor Phonic. HUGE difference sonically, in attack, warmth, timbre, volume, etc. Stave drums are quite different when compared to ply drums; they are very 'full' sounding, fat, and 'in your face' (I'm not too good at sound descriptions...). Try myspace.com/metrodrums and listen to the soundfiles there. The kit is a Rose Gum stave kit, I think in 22x18, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 14x6.5 and 10x6 sizes with coated G2s, and the recording hasn't been Eq'd, although I think it might have a little compression.
For the record, I'd have Frank make you a kit. I haven't seen anything that looks like it could better a Unix kit, and that's not taking prices into account.

[Tamascb10]

Well, the different shell construction will change the sound much more than the difference timber makes between any of the ply kits you mentioned. You think about the difference in sound between a 3 ply ludwig and a Sonor Phonic. HUGE difference sonically, in attack, warmth, timbre, volume, etc. Stave drums are quite different when compared to ply drums; they are very 'full' sounding, fat, and 'in your face' (I'm not too good at sound descriptions...). Try myspace.com/metrodrums and listen to the soundfiles there. The kit is a Rose Gum stave kit, I think in 22x18, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 14x6.5 and 10x6 sizes with coated G2s, and the recording hasn't been Eq'd, although I think it might have a little compression.
For the record, I'd have Frank make you a kit. I haven't seen anything that looks like it could better a Unix kit, and that's not taking prices into account.

The way you discribed that seems to me thata stave shell + birch is going to sound amazing. Thanks for posting that...

[Tamascb10]

Ok, So far i'm still leaning towards Unix. Although I just played an MCX and loved it, but defitnetly NOT a big fan on the ISS mounting or whatever that is.

[metal overlord]

Ok, So far i'm still leaning towards Unix. Although I just played an MCX and loved it, but defitnetly NOT a big fan on the ISS mounting or whatever that is.

I agree with the ISS, it's not all that great. But I'de take the Unix, it's totally custom, and it's awesome!

[Tamascb10]

Well, I found a slight problem with the Unix kit. Well, I "prefer" maple over birch, but do to price, I have to settle for birch. That's my problem, It's better to get what you what until you can afford a kit you want (Unix bubinga kit).


So, I've been looking at kits that will last as long as I need them to (Till I can afford a Unix bubinga kit, which will be a while).

Here is a few kits I've been looking at:

http://www.musicgoround.com/gear/inventorydetails.asp?id=569527

http://www.massmusic.net/shop/?shop=1&cart=8004950&cat=251&
(it's the special addition one)

Plus all the others mentioned

[pasta]

How much is the Unix bubinga?

[Tamascb10]

How much is the Unix bubinga?

I don't know, didn't ask.

[bojangleman]

what kit do you have now? and how much more is the maple then birch? and why not just not buy a kit now, and that will be that much more money you have to get the unix kit. you would save a whole bunch of money.

Alex

[Big_Philly]

So, I've been looking at kits that will last as long as I need them to (Till I can afford a Unix bubinga kit, which will be a while).



If that's the case, don't spend so much. You can get cheaper kits of very good quality if it's just meant to be a temporary thing. Save some $$$ and you'll be closer to the bubinga stave kit already. Also, ask how much it costs...

Cheap kits of good quality are the Tama Superstar, Sonor Force 3007 (if you're into maple) and Mapex M-birch.

[Tamascb10]

If that's the case, don't spend so much. You can get cheaper kits of very good quality if it's just meant to be a temporary thing. Save some $$$ and you'll be closer to the bubinga stave kit already. Also, ask how much it costs...

Cheap kits of good quality are the Tama Superstar, Sonor Force 3007 (if you're into maple) and Mapex M-birch.

Actually, I was thinking to get a nice (but not overly nice) kit, then resell it. Like a Pearl Masters MCX (I found a good used one) the Gretsch Renown (It would be really hard to re-sell a kit like that though) or maybe another kit. But so far, I really really REALLY LOVE the Mapex Saturn Special addition 7 piece. I've played a 5 piece saturn and it was amazing, same with the Tama B/B!

[Tamascb10]

what kit do you have now? and how much more is the maple then birch? and why not just not buy a kit now, and that will be that much more money you have to get the unix kit. you would save a whole bunch of money.

Alex

what?


-stupid 20 characters-

[bojangleman]

dude....im tryin to help you out. my bad for not putting it where "you" cant understand it. here. lets try this.. what i was saying is dont get a kit now. save that money up, so you can get the Unix kit faster. cause if you blow all that money on a kit now. you wont sell it for the amount you paid. and you didnt answer my question. what kind of kit do you have now.

what?


-stupid 20 characters-


Alex

[Tamascb10]

dude....im tryin to help you out. my bad for not putting it where "you" cant understand it. here. lets try this.. what i was saying is dont get a kit now. save that money up, so you can get the Unix kit faster. cause if you blow all that money on a kit now. you wont sell it for the amount you paid. and you didnt answer my question. what kind of kit do you have now.




Alex

Oh, I didn't to insult you if I did. I just didn't understand so I put "what" there, and That wasn't 20 characters so I just made it so I could post.

Anyway, I that's why I was looking at used/cheaper kits, But I don't really want to wait and buy the Unix kit. Because that'll take forever.

Right now I have a Starclassic Bubinga. People are going to ask "why are you looking at new kits if you got something like that?!?!" But the fact is, my parent baught it for me. And they said that if I don't practice/take care of it They'll take iut away from me. And I really didn't listen, and now It's my dad's kit. It may sound like I don't deserve a new kit some may say, but between everything going on I had no time. Plus my band broke up, which led to no more band practice. Wow that was alot to say, but yeah.

[bojangleman]

aight man, its cool!
this is what i think you should do(or what i would do). dont buy a kit now. cause the Unix kit is what..2 grand?. so if you go buy the other kit as a "temperary" kit, you more then likely you wont be able to sell it for what you paid. then that is that much more money you dont have to go for the Unix kit(or for any other kit)and from those links, those sets were $1200 or so. so wait a few months, save up another $800+ and get your Unix kit.

btw. shame on you for not practicing on your Tama..haha. cause that kit is really amazing sounding! and do you still have access to it? if so, show him that you do deserve it by practicing alot..etc..

Alex

[Tamascb10]

aight man, its cool!
this is what i think you should do(or what i would do). dont buy a kit now. cause the Unix kit is what..2 grand?. so if you go buy the other kit as a "temperary" kit, you more then likely you wont be able to sell it for what you paid. then that is that much more money you dont have to go for the Unix kit(or for any other kit)and from those links, those sets were $1200 or so. so wait a few months, save up another $800+ and get your Unix kit.

btw. shame on you for not practicing on your Tama..haha. cause that kit is really amazing sounding! and do you still have access to it? if so, show him that you do deserve it by practicing alot..etc..

Alex


I still can play it, I can't gig with it, go anywhere with it or that kinda stuff.

But the Mapex kit was $2,190 for the special addition, wich is cheaper than all the same pieces seperate!

[bojangleman]

shoot, if it was that much, and you were considering it, just put that down on the Unix kit.
haha. and if you like the maple sound, and the birch. have like every other plank of wood maple, then birch, maple, birch...so on...haha..i dont even know if that is possible...but would be cool..haha

I still can play it, I can't gig with it, go anywhere with it or that kinda stuff.

But the Mapex kit was $2,190 for the special addition, wich is cheaper than all the same pieces seperate!

Alex

[rendezvous_drummer]

Yamaha Oak Custom. I haven't tried Unix before, but I have tried most of the other ones. I'd go with the Yamaha first personally then the Tama B/B second.

[Tamascb10]

shoot, if it was that much, and you were considering it, just put that down on the Unix kit.
haha. and if you like the maple sound, and the birch. have like every other plank of wood maple, then birch, maple, birch...so on...haha..i dont even know if that is possible...but would be cool..haha



Alex



Take the saturn over the Unix kit? Well, it's like $500 more than the Unix kit (the birch one on my list, not the bubinga one). And it's maple/walnut.


But maple, then birch is possible, Pearl Masterworks =D
but that's overkill, too expencive

[bojangleman]

no. if you were going to buy the Mapex for a temperary kit for 2 grand. why not just go ahead and buy the Unix set. and what i meant by the maple then birch is, a stave is constructed of alot of pieces of wood. haha but you got say(just a estimate) 1, 2" wide maple, then 1, 2" wide birch, then 1, 2" wide maple, then 1, 2" wide birch. and so on.

Take the saturn over the Unix kit? Well, it's like $500 more than the Unix kit (the birch one on my list, not the bubinga one). And it's maple/walnut.


But maple, then birch is possible, Pearl Masterworks =D
but that's overkill, too expencive

Alex

[Tamascb10]

no. if you were going to buy the Mapex for a temperary kit for 2 grand. why not just go ahead and buy the Unix set. and what i meant by the maple then birch is, a stave is constructed of alot of pieces of wood. haha but you got say(just a estimate) 1, 2" wide maple, then 1, 2" wide birch, then 1, 2" wide maple, then 1, 2" wide birch. and so on.



Alex


The Unix is birch though, the Mapex has more pieces, and it's maple/walnut

[Unix]

Ok couple things here:

Unix Birch drum or Maple are the same price.
Bubinga with a satin finish would be almost the same price.

And third, you may not like this but, I think you better go with Tama or pearl. You see in yours search you compared many plys shell company with 1 stave shell company. If you would have look over many stave company it would be differents. If you choose a stave kit, it's because of the sound you searching for... if it's only for a matter of look, I can achived the same look with plys shell and it will cost less.

Just to let you know I also do ply shells kit too.
Don't choose stave because people tell you to do so, but because that is what you want. Be your own judge. Stave are different and may not fit everyone.

[bojangleman]

you do ply too? awesome. you make your own?

Ok couple things here:

Unix Birch drum or Maple are the same price.
Bubinga with a satin finish would be almost the same price.

And third, you may not like this but, I think you better go with Tama or pearl. You see in yours search you compared many plys shell company with 1 stave shell company. If you would have look over many stave company it would be differents. If you choose a stave kit, it's because of the sound you searching for... if it's only for a matter of look, I can achived the same look with plys shell and it will cost less.

Just to let you know I also do ply shells kit too.
Don't choose stave because people tell you to do so, but because that is what you want. Be your own judge. Stave are different and may not fit everyone.

Alex

[Unix]

Snare shell for now. But soon the entire kit.

[Tamascb10]

Ok couple things here:

Unix Birch drum or Maple are the same price.
Bubinga with a satin finish would be almost the same price.

And third, you may not like this but, I think you better go with Tama or pearl. You see in yours search you compared many plys shell company with 1 stave shell company. If you would have look over many stave company it would be differents. If you choose a stave kit, it's because of the sound you searching for... if it's only for a matter of look, I can achived the same look with plys shell and it will cost less.

Just to let you know I also do ply shells kit too.
Don't choose stave because people tell you to do so, but because that is what you want. Be your own judge. Stave are different and may not fit everyone.

I've been looking into your kits because your kits are pieces of art, they are goergous. Even when you havent painted them yet, you can't even see the staves! I'm not looking into your kits because I've been told that staves are better, as I said, your kits are even better than the highest DW, at 1/3 of the price, on a better set.

[Tamascb10]

Wait, how much would be a bubinga kit with my sizes, color, and hardware? Because I have a really good feeling in where this is going...

[Unix]

I've been looking into your kits because your kits are pieces of art, they are goergous. Even when you havent painted them yet, you can't even see the staves! I'm not looking into your kits because I've been told that staves are better, as I said, your kits are even better than the highest DW, at 1/3 of the price, on a better set.


I am not complaining or trying to avoid your business at all. All I said is stave are different.
I am pleased to know that you like my work.

[Unix]

Wait, how much would be a bubinga kit with my sizes, color, and hardware? Because I have a really good feeling in where this is going...

Just a tinny bit under 2K. And now you are talking of a different ball game...
I know your fade would be middle to bottom , but that is an exemple of Bubinga with fade.

[fourstringdrums]

Just a tinny bit under 2K. And now you are talking of a different ball game...
I know your fade would be middle to bottom , but that is an exemple of Bubinga with fade.

*whistle* Beautiful Frank. I almost thought it was Tuxido's kit for a second but then I remembered he got Birch, not Bubinga, and I think his fade goes the opposite way.

[Tamascb10]

Just a tinny bit under 2K.

Ok, so, if you know how happy I was right now (I just went bouncing around the house) you'd probably...well, love yourself? I don't know. But a 6 piece bubinga kit, made by you, with black chrome and my color, under $2k? First of all, thats cheaper than a maple/walnut Mapex Saturn, which was the kit I was leaning towards the most. You are amazing, I'm so pleased. I'm out of words...

[Unix]

*whistle* Beautiful Frank. I almost thought it was Tuxido's kit for a second but then I remembered he got Birch, not Bubinga, and I think his fade goes the opposite way.


Tuxido kit as your are in the way but like I told you, the wood need to be season in the shop for at least a week or 2. Wait to see the kits next week. I have 5 to build.

[Unix]

*whistle* Beautiful Frank. I almost thought it was Tuxido's kit for a second but then I remembered he got Birch, not Bubinga, and I think his fade goes the opposite way.

Oh and by the way next week I am sending you some sample color for you to choose.

[fourstringdrums]

Oh and by the way next week I am sending you some sample color for you to choose.

Ok sounds great Frank.

Yes I remember you telling me about the tempering, I just forgot how long ago he placed his order. Apparently it was only 4 days before me.

But regardless of whose shell that is, it's a beauty. Is that center stripe inlayed or is it painted?

[Tamascb10]

Ok, so much for saving up on a Unix bubinga kit, eh? It's way under by budget (it was 2200-), so I geuss that's the kit I'm going to decide on.


But, im not "great" with finishes, would a satin finish look good with a gold to black fade on it?

[razorx]

Ok, so much for saving up on a Unix bubinga kit, eh? It's way under by budget (it was 2200-), so I geuss that's the kit I'm going to decide on.


But, im not "great" with finishes, would a satin finish look good with a gold to black fade on it?

Have you seen the kit that unix is making that looks like the tama warlord drums? There is a thread about it, I think it is called unix goes warlord.

[Tamascb10]

Have you seen the kit that unix is making that looks like the tama warlord drums? There is a thread about it, I think it is called unix goes warlord.

Yeah, it's nice. Is that a satin finish?

[Unix]

Yes it is a satin finish, but why would you want to cover the Buninga with gold paint. A hi gloss finish cost $500.00 more. And another thing for the pricing or other details, please PM me, I don't wanna do business in the public room.

Thank you...