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broken_symlink
12-29-2007, 04:38 PM
ok, so my brother has pretty much stopped playing the drums. I have been thinking about selling his kit and getting a new one for myself. He has a no name kit that sounds ok, but the sizes are all wrong for me. Its a 22, 12, 13, 16, and 14in snare. I have a taye original 20x16 14x14 12x9 10x8.5 and 14x5 snare. So basically i'm thinking about getting either a gretsch catalina club jazz or another taye set, maybe a prox series set with an 18in. bass. I've also been looking at the tourpro series. Its a little more expensive, but it has the slidetrack mounting system on the bass, which is what i'm used to from my taye set, plus the finishes are nicer. However, i'm really interested in the catalina club because its a mahogany set.
metal overlord
12-29-2007, 08:13 PM
Gretsch Catalina Club is ASAIN Mahagony. Not African. Not the real stuff. It's most mikely Luann wood, or other mahagony immitations. Real mahagony can be found in more expencive drum sets (Pearl Referance, Masters, Masterworks).
hyperdrummer
12-29-2007, 11:47 PM
I'm not being smart, but how do you know it's Asian mahogany, and not Phillipine or some south American mahogany?
I know it's not African Mahogany cause it's too light in color with less grain definition. But in reality, the little club kick drum is surprisingly powerful, and the rest of the kit sounds better than you'd expect.
The cheaper mahoganies can sound pretty good, even like a more expensive kit, if the bearing edges are nice and true, providing they don't use too much heart wood. The only draw back is they can be a little sensitive to different room conditions, but not near as bad as poplar.
metal overlord
12-30-2007, 12:32 AM
I'm not being smart, but how do you know it's Asian mahogany, and not Phillipine or some south American mahogany?
I know it's not African Mahogany cause it's too light in color with less grain definition. But in reality, the little club kick drum is surprisingly powerful, and the rest of the kit sounds better than you'd expect.
The cheaper mahoganies can sound pretty good, even like a more expensive kit, if the bearing edges are nice and true, providing they don't use too much heart wood. The only draw back is they can be a little sensitive to different room conditions, but not near as bad as poplar.
A guy at Guitar Center told me, I asked about it. Phillipine mahagony is the same as asain, can be light, grainy, and stringy. It was the good guy at Guitar Center, too. The guy who actually knows the differance between maple and birch.
GRUNTERSDAD
12-30-2007, 01:19 AM
I have a ProX set that I have had for 18 months or so, and I just bought a Gretsch Renown set. I love the Tayes, Birch and Basswood, but feel the Renown Maple sounds better. I won't say the drums are better since I think the Tayes are very well made and to use a cliche, the best for the money. Either way I think you will do OK. The Tayes are for sale, by the way.
hyperdrummer
01-09-2008, 03:06 AM
A guy at Guitar Center told me, I asked about it. Phillipine mahagony is the same as asain, can be light, grainy, and stringy. It was the good guy at Guitar Center, too. The guy who actually knows the differance between maple and birch.
I don't know how accurate this is, but wikipedia says that Gretsch is using Phillipine wood. I stumbled across this the other looking for something else actually. It's pretty cool cause you can look up a bunch of different drum companies info there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretsch_Drums
criz p. critter
01-09-2008, 07:04 AM
I don't know how accurate this is, but wikipedia says that Gretsch is using Phillipine wood. I stumbled across this the other looking for something else actually. It's pretty cool cause you can look up a bunch of different drum companies info there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretsch_Drums
Excepting of course their Purewood Renown kits that were of actual African Mahogany. Those were a limited run, though, less than 200 total kits made. Can't get 'em anymore. I've got one, myself, and am very happy with it.
hyperdrummer
01-09-2008, 03:40 PM
Excepting of course their Purewood Renown kits that were of actual African Mahogany. Those were a limited run, though, less than 200 total kits made. Can't get 'em anymore. I've got one, myself, and am very happy with it.
Yeah, we was referring to the club mod/jazz/etc. kits. The renown is in there as true African mahogany. You've got a killer kit man.
brotherbaker
01-09-2008, 03:46 PM
ok, so my brother has pretty much stopped playing the drums. I have been thinking about selling his kit and getting a new one for myself. He has a no name kit that sounds ok, but the sizes are all wrong for me. Its a 22, 12, 13, 16, and 14in snare. I have a taye original 20x16 14x14 12x9 10x8.5 and 14x5 snare. So basically i'm thinking about getting either a gretsch catalina club jazz or another taye set, maybe a prox series set with an 18in. bass. I've also been looking at the tourpro series. Its a little more expensive, but it has the slidetrack mounting system on the bass, which is what i'm used to from my taye set, plus the finishes are nicer. However, i'm really interested in the catalina club because its a mahogany set.
I know it's not apples/apples, but I have a Gretsch Renown maple kit & the church I play at has a Taye Studio Maple kit & I personally prefer the Gretsch over the Taye. It's just a feel thing for me & I am not real fond of the Taye hardware. The Taye set is VERY nice & a top notch kit & like Gruntersdad said, you cannot go wrong with either kit.
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