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Jammin' Jamin 2112
12-23-2007, 08:28 AM
I've listened closely to Tom Sawyer from the Moving Pictures album. I'm writing out the drum part and am stuck at the drum solo at 2:31. I scanned what I wrote out. If I had drum notation software, this wouldn't be so sloppy. See attatchments and tell me what you think!
(Yes, I do have a lot of spart time)
Class A Drummer
12-23-2007, 08:37 AM
In that 7/8 section, im not so sure there is a tie there. I would have to check my book. Which brings me to a question, why not just buy the book? It comes with plenty of other songs to read from.
Latin Groover
12-23-2007, 10:01 AM
In that 7/8 section, im not so sure there is a tie there. I would have to check my book. Which brings me to a question, why not just buy the book? It comes with plenty of other songs to read from.
Because who wants to become a better musician through the art of transcription, i mean really! ;-)
Instead of relying on books, actually listen to the song, learn from the song. CD's aren't just music to fill in time on the bus, they are a well of information. Think of how much you could learn by buying one CD (jazz, funk whatever) and listening, really listening to that album, learning, transcribing. Listen to the way the parts are crafted, the way they all intertwine to form a crafted piece of sound. Or is it dissonant? Why? What where the musicians intentions for that do you think? Hear the way the musicians interact and play off each other. Spend time with that album so you know it, really know it. Listen like a musician, not a kid on a bus. Notice new things each time. Most people who play instruments don't listen like this. I think that is a strong factor between a musician and a kid on a bus with his ipod up full who also plays the drums.
Cause i know i would way rather travel that path than to be a drummer who buys books to copy, I'd rather be a musician. Wouldn't you.
Latin Groover
12-23-2007, 10:17 AM
Class _A I post to you a challenge! :-)
Find a song you like now and transcribe as much as you can of it, or better find a couple of tunes with ideas, grooves, sections you like and give em a shot. Transcribing really is a massive benefit to you as a musician.
I remember when i first started transcribing some things, like not just a groove but some passages, boy i felt i was so out of my depth. But by having to re-listen to bars again and again, to really listen to sections you can feel your hearing just improving. Picking up new little subtleties each time. It got easier to hear what was going on. And of course learn what you transcribe. But if it's licks remember to use them, not abuse them. They don't fit everywhere, unless your Gadd. He can use his licks anywhere and make them sound new and fitting each time, master.
So next time you want to do learn some Zep, Rush or whatever, don't turn too your books listen to the song, and learn. Music isn't supposed to be textbook easy, so unless you want to be the kid on the bus don't take the easy way out.
fourstringdrums
12-23-2007, 04:04 PM
In that 7/8 section, im not so sure there is a tie there. I would have to check my book. Which brings me to a question, why not just buy the book? It comes with plenty of other songs to read from.
Because transcribing songs yourself will make you a better drummer. Also just because there is a book with the transcriptions doesn't mean that the book doesn't have mistakes of it's own, even in the part you're citing.
Jammin' Jamin 2112
12-23-2007, 05:11 PM
In that 7/8 section, im not so sure there is a tie there. I would have to check my book. Which brings me to a question, why not just buy the book? It comes with plenty of other songs to read from.
I know the beats aren't tied but I thought you're supposed to write a tie on hi-hat openings
Class A Drummer
12-23-2007, 05:21 PM
I know the beats aren't tied but I thought you're supposed to write a tie on hi-hat openings
Hi hat open for me has always been a little "o" above the note and a little "+" above the note you use your left foot on. But i guess either way works.
Edit- oh btw caught a little mistake. I think. First bar with the hi hat instead of being straight 16th notes, is 1 8th note at the begining, followed by 14 16th notes. 1 2+3+4+ (if you are counting in 8th notes) or 1 +a 2e+a 3e+a 4e+a (if counting in 16th notes).
mind_drummer
12-23-2007, 06:07 PM
This is what I could retrieve from a midi file. I may not be accurate but It may help, I hope...
balboa
01-21-2008, 06:01 AM
i hear slightly open hi hat accents at the beginning. is that where your accents are?
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