Paiste Signatures

[DaveyBoy]

Im looking for some good cymbals, bright and versitile, and i've heard these are good.

Anybody got any exparience with them? Or recomend any other Paiste cymbals.

Thanks
Dave

[hateplow]

I use them. They are fantastic and very musical. They are orchestral-like, in that they are kind of "heavy".
They have the best ride cymbals available, IMO.
Check out sound files at www.paiste.com

[PineyplayParadiddles]

I've used them many times and they are fantastic sounding cymbals. I love the dark crip hihats and the 18" mellow crash.

[Velimor]

The only one I have experience with is the 21" Dry Heavy Ride. It's a great ride if you're playing rock or metal, but it really doesn't do softer stuff well, in my opinion. But if that's what you're looking for, then it's a good choice. The sound files on Paiste's website are very very close to how it actually sounds.

[-tarek-]

Paiste Signatures are great. AMost of my cymbals are Paiste Sigs. I'm not one of those drummers who stick to one brand and line of cymbal, because sound is more important than aesthetic to me. I pick each cymbal by sound and try all brands I can, but I almost always end up taking home a Paiste Sig. I have 4 crashes, 2 splashes, a ride, hats, and a china all from the Signature line (china is a 2002 though) and they all sound beautiful. The crashes and splashes are very bright and shimmery, crisp attack with brilliant overtones. The rides are rides, they're made not to crash well, meaning they keep an articulate tone at all volumes, and they are definitely my favorite. Try the 22" Dark Metal ride, it's phenomenal. They are very good cymbals and the sound files on paiste.com are actually pretty accurate. I reccomend them.

Go to their website and check them out.

Danney Carey of Tool uses Paiste and their drum tracks are mastered to sound as they do in real life, not an overly produced sound. So Tool is a pretty accurate sound source as well.

[drumr0]

I have played them for many years in many different types of music from country to heavy metal, they have always performed very well. I recommend them highly.

[Thrash Drummer]

I have 1 Paiste sig crash and 2 splashes, they are great cymbals. The splashes are crisp and bright, and the crash is just great in every aspect. The sigs are made from b15 and not cast, which drives some people away, but they sound incredible.

[cdrums21]

I have played the same set of Paiste signature cymbals for the past 13 years. I have a 17" heavy crash, an 18" heavy crash, 22" dry heavy ride, a 20" heavy china and 14" sound edge hi-hats. I love the sound I get from them. They are bright, cutting and they're there, then gone with not a whole lot of sustain. I just got a comment from a drummer at a recent show that said my cymbals sounded great. They are durable as well (at least the "heavy" line ) as indicated by how long I've had the same ones. I'm a pretty hard hitter as well. I don't think you can go wrong with Paiste signatures. I love them. I've also played a friend's "fast crash" and 10" splash from the signature line and they sounded awesome. Velimor is right about their sound files on the website. They are very, very close to the actual sound. Check it out and see what you think.

[Norske]

I have two kits and play mostly 60's, 70's, and 80's classic rock. The sound I'm looking for in my cymbals is what I heard in that era. I play nothing but Paiste. My main kit is all Signature series, oops, except for the hi hats which are Paiste Traditionals, and my second kit is Paiste Alphas and PST5s. Even the lower priced Paiste lines sound really good compared to other cymbals in their price ranges. I think the Alphas are really nice cymbals in their own rite.

Lots of people say that the Paiste Sigs are too expensive for them, but I bought some of mine used on eBay, and paid a lot less than some of the used Zildjians were going for. And with today's pricing, even new ones are not much more than new Zildjians.

The primary reason I got into buying Paiste was their brightness. In my opinion there is nothing like them. And you can always change over one at a time, like I did. Once I got the first one, I had to have more!

[Ruok]

Forgive me for being a bit negative, but I never was a fan of the Paiste Signature line overall. I'm actually quite amazed that they are so popular. To me, the Paiste 2oo2s sound much better to my ears and cost less too.

[zambizzi]

Forgive me for being a bit negative, but I never was a fan of the Paiste Signature line overall. I'm actually quite amazed that they are so popular. To me, the Paiste 2oo2s sound much better to my ears and cost less too.

I agree with you, entirely. I owned a few signature crashes and the 14" sound edge hats...after a while I just couldn't stand the sound of them anymore. They just sounded cheap to me.

I recently replaced some older cymbals w/ 2oo2's and I absolutely love them. They're warm, yet bright...they just feel good to play. I also picked up a 21" Dark Energy Mark 2 ride...(which is a "new" signature, yes) - and it's my new favorite ride.

Signatures just sounded very tinny and non-musical to me...the hi-hats being the worst (IMO).

[Ruok]

I agree with you, entirely. I owned a few signature crashes and the 14" sound edge hats...after a while I just couldn't stand the sound of them anymore. They just sounded cheap to me.

I recently replaced some older cymbals w/ 2oo2's and I absolutely love them. They're warm, yet bright...they just feel good to play. I also picked up a 21" Dark Energy Mark 2 ride...(which is a "new" signature, yes) - and it's my new favorite ride.

Signatures just sounded very tinny and non-musical to me...the hi-hats being the worst (IMO).

We're definitely on the same page about the Sigs. Whenever I hear the sigs on recordings, I'm always thinking how much better the cymbals would have sounded if only they were 2oo2s or even some other line of cymbals. Not that I couldn't find some good sounds in the Sig line, but overall, they don't do much for me.

[Norske]

Obviously that's why they make differnet cymbal lines, guys, to appeal to a variety of different tastes!

[evans_69]

i use paiste signature full crashes and love them ,, but i bought a pair of 14" sig soundedge hats and they are not nice IMO... they do sound tinny and sheety .. i think 2002's and signatures mixed together is the way too go, pick and choose what sound you like ....i find paiste to be a rock cymbal though and i may be wrong but i think the crashes are very one dimensionel bright cutting .... thats why i own a set of zildjian mixed with sabian aswell cause i find them a bit more versatile .. :D ...... i recommend again to go try some out if poss.. hope you find what your looking for.

[toolhead07]

I have been hearing from a few sources that sigs are not very durable and seem to crack sooner then you would think. One guy said he went through 4 in a year which seems ridiculous to me. Since paiste are not cast, I wanted to know if they really are durable. I don't want to spend a lot of money on a cymbal that isn't going to last.

[Fur drummer]

If you want bright sounding cymbals then Signatures are for you. I love mine. I have 16 and 17 inch fast crashes that sound sweet. I'm In the process of changing all my cymbals from Zildjian Ks to Paiste Sigs. I think Signatures are cool and give me the sound I want. If you live near a drum or music store that sells them you should go and try them out.

[razorx]

I have been hearing from a few sources that sigs are not very durable and seem to crack sooner then you would think. One guy said he went through 4 in a year which seems ridiculous to me. Since paiste are not cast, I wanted to know if they really are durable. I don't want to spend a lot of money on a cymbal that isn't going to last.

are paistes really cast? i find that hard to believe!

[Fur drummer]

I have been hearing from a few sources that sigs are not very durable and seem to crack sooner then you would think. One guy said he went through 4 in a year which seems ridiculous to me. Since paiste are not cast, I wanted to know if they really are durable. I don't want to spend a lot of money on a cymbal that isn't going to last.

I have heard that also but so far I have not had a problem with mine. Knock on wood.

[nickg]

i've had an 18" Signature Power Crash in my setup since they first came out. it's probably my favorite sounding cymbal.

but you can't go wrong as far a versatility with the 2002, especially since they expanded their line even more with everything from paper thin crashes up to 24" crashes.

[Jeremy Bender]

Here's a link to a video on how they're made. I believe they are cast, then rolled into a thin round sheet, then onto the rest of the manufacturing process... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2370470637215857883&q=paiste&total=38&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

[ihitdrumz]

Forgive me for being a bit negative, but I never was a fan of the Paiste Signature line overall. I'm actually quite amazed that they are so popular. To me, the Paiste 2oo2s sound much better to my ears and cost less too.

Ive used Paiste 2oo2 hats and cymbals for a while now. And not being negative either, but they suit my main style more than the Signatures. They have a nice variety on the line, and can certainly take a heavy beating.

[Jeremy Bender]

I primarily own 2002's all from the early '80s. I just recently bought a 20" Sig. Dry Heavy Ride. It definitely sounds as described. The Signature alloy is a change in sound from the 2002's to be sure. I'm thinking about a Sig. Full Ride next since I want something with a little more wash and less pingy. Any suggestions for a variety of Sig. rides?

[stillgroovin]

I play the Sig 20in Bright ride. Beautiful clean crisp sound. In addition I also have the 18in full crash that I love.

[sticky.widget]

Let thine own ears be the final judge....

I've never restricted myself into thinking that my cymbal lineup needed to be all the same brand or family...erego my Zildjian K-Light hi-hats, Paiste crashes, and Wuhan Chinas. I also threw in a 19" Rude thin crash...just because the sound fit something I was looking for.

That being said, I absolutely love my Paiste Signature full crashes. They have just the right blend of projection and decay.....for me.

After testing I-don't-know-how-many rides, I've also settled on the 21" Paiste Signature Dry Heavy Ride. Man, that thing just sounds sweeeeeeet. And the bell..perfect.

Getting the fiscals approved through Finance, however (a.k.a. my better half) is another story.

Anybody have a good retort to the "Don't you think you have enough cymbals" line of questioning? None of mine seem to work anymore....

Cheers!

[Jeremy Bender]

You can never have too many snare drums or too many cymbals. Tell her you're investing in foreign precious metals. Tell her they're what guys buy instead of shoes. Please let me know if this works, I'm not brave enough to try it myself !

[schist]

Paiste Signatures are the only cymbals you'll ever need. :P

[ermghoti]

What what?
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[aydee]

I agree with you, entirely. I owned a few signature crashes and the 14" sound edge hats...after a while I just couldn't stand the sound of them anymore. They just sounded cheap to me.

I recently replaced some older cymbals w/ 2oo2's and I absolutely love them. They're warm, yet bright...they just feel good to play. I also picked up a 21" Dark Energy Mark 2 ride...(which is a "new" signature, yes) - and it's my new favorite ride.

Signatures just sounded very tinny and non-musical to me...the hi-hats being the worst (IMO).

And I agree with you and you.

I find it hard to get rid of my 17" PAISTE 2002 crash, even though the poor thing is completely surrounded by deliciously evil ZILDJIAN A- Customs

( oh, and the signature hats are pretty good... )

[dhan]

I have some for sale if you are interested!

[tomtom]

I have been hearing from a few sources that sigs are not very durable and seem to crack sooner then you would think. One guy said he went through 4 in a year which seems ridiculous to me. Since paiste are not cast, I wanted to know if they really are durable. I don't want to spend a lot of money on a cymbal that isn't going to last.

In my 30 years of playing; 35 crashes, one set of hi-hats broken. All Paistes (Sig, 2002, Rude, 3000, 602, Sound Creation). I once broke a Sig 18" mellow crash AND a Sig 16" fast crash on the same gig. I got them brand new earlier that very same day. Back in ´94 I switched to another brand; I´ve broken ONE 8" splash since. Go figure...

[awe_1]

I love my Paiste signatures. When you learn to play them properly its like your surrounded by translucent glass or something. If that makes any sence. But you have to learn to play them properly (dynamics.)

[hwy145]

Paiste signatures are, in my opinion, an acquired tatste. Granted, I love them, but many don't. They have a certain refinement, and some may find it unappealing. They are almost eq'd to my ears, because they lack a certain midrange that most Zildjians and Sabians have. They don't have the metallic midrange "clank" that I hear in the other brands. I've gotten so used to their sound, that I find most other brands obnoxious up close (not so bad far away or in a mix). I absolutely love mine, but their not for all...

[H20]

"I love my Paiste signatures. When you learn to play them properly its like your surrounded by translucent glass or something. If that makes any sense. But you have to learn to play them properly (dynamics.)"

I think that's exactly right. I have 10, 16, 17, 18 sigs, 14 dark crisp hats, 20 Giant Beat and a 24 2002. The signatures are all especially nice, but heavy. It takes a bit to get the knack of hitting them in different ways to get the sound you want out of them. But they are beautiful--very bright, glassy, and real nice sustain. I love them--wouldn't play anything else, and I've tried just about everything else out there. The 2002 and Giant Beat lines are also very very nice as well, but the Signatures are my favorites.

[Solaris]

The Full Crashes in particular are very sweet sounding cymbals. They're loud but musical and have a real glassy edge. There's something about them that says "hit me again!"

I also have a Sig. Reflector 20" Dry Ride, and it's incredibly versatile. Perhaps a little lacking in ping for some of the more heavier stuff I play, but it has an absolutely killer bell.

[lewisn27]

i have played the mellow crash (i don't know what size) in my drum lessons, i didn't think that much of it. It sounded ok if you hit it gently but if your a hard hitter i'd give it a miss

[RobertM]

Paiste Signatures are fantastic. I've been playing Signatures since 1989 and they've never let me down. My fast crashes (15", 16", 18") are, in fact, from '89 and still in great shape. The 13" heavy hats are the best in my opinion: extremely articulate and cutting. I also have 6", 8", and 10" splashes, 21" Dry Heavy Ride, the new 22" Stewart Copeland Blue Bell Ride (to be framed on the wall--ha!), and a 16" Thin China. All great, great cymbals--the best in clarity and brightness. I almost bought some 15" Dark Energy hats but held back--too expensive!

If you are going to play jazz or anything like that, then I have to confess that we must cross over to Zildjian, Sabian, Bosphorus, or Agop. Despite my love of Paiste Signatures, their tone is very limited--they do not do "dark" very well. Even the Traditionals are too bright.

For rock or anything in that genre, though, the Signatures are fantastic.

[ChickDrummer:)]

I just got some Paiste Signature Sound Edge Hi hat's and I simply love them! The sound is wonderous! I am so glad I held out for the higher end and now they are in my living room!
So, what does that Stewart Copeland sound like???
I am sold on the Signatures!!!
:)

[nickg]

i've been a Paiste diehard for years. the first Paiste i got was a 2002 18" Medium back in the late 70's and then i got 2002 Sound Edge hats. after that it was just another Paiste after another. now i've used nothing else since the mid 80's. my 18" Power Crash is the only Sig i own, but it's my favorite crash by far.

i love Paistes for two reasons:
they sound great
and
they ain't zildjians!!

[Eliminator]

I love Paiste's and want to get a Sig 18" full crash, are these good?, from listning to the Samples on the paiste site they sound dam good.

[Solaris]

The 18" Full Crash is birght, shimmering musical and a pleasure to play. It's my main crash and also my favourite. I'd highly recomend it to anyone wanting a modern cymbal for rock pop or metal.

[drumr0]

I also have an 18" Signature full crash and it is my favorite for sure! I also have a 16" Sabian AAX stage crash and I like it alot, but I catch myself hitting the Signature quite a bit more. Great cymbals no doubt!!

[MonteChristo]

I would agree on the idea of a mixture of 2002 and Signature pies. I've got a nice mix. 2002 heavy hats, 16" and 18" crashes. Signature 17" full and 18"power crashes and a Dimensions dry ride. I pretty happy with the variety of voices these provide.



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