The new Paragon

[spartacus1989]

http://www.sabian.com/sabiantalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=19&threadid=11826&enterthread=y

I can't wait until it hits the UK stores!
I don't know when I'd use it but the new DIAMONDBACK CHINESE looks and sounds incredibly individual!

[zambizzi]

http://www.sabian.com/sabiantalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=19&threadid=11826&enterthread=y

I can't wait until it hits the UK stores!
I don't know when I'd use it but the new DIAMONDBACK CHINESE looks and sounds incredibly individual!

That is pretty cool, I'd like to hear one. I've always been intrigued by the Paragon line. I'm sure it has been asked, but what is unique about Paragons compared to other Sabian series?

I played a Paragon ride recently and while it sounded great, I wasn't able to distinguish what makes it a Paragon, exactly.

[Just Drums]

That is pretty cool, I'd like to hear one. I've always been intrigued by the Paragon line. I'm sure it has been asked, but what is unique about Paragons compared to other Sabian series?

I played a Paragon ride recently and while it sounded great, I wasn't able to distinguish what makes it a Paragon, exactly.

That's easy - Neil.

;-)

My rep brought the DB China by the other day. It was interesting. It was like a sizzly (is that a word??) china. Remember the old Zildjian Swiss Knocker Chinas? Like that. What's old is new again.

[fourstringdrums]

Hmm, interesting. I wonder if Neil is going to put that in his setup.

[nhzoso]

That is pretty cool, I'd like to hear one. I've always been intrigued by the Paragon line. I'm sure it has been asked, but what is unique about Paragons compared to other Sabian series?

I played a Paragon ride recently and while it sounded great, I wasn't able to distinguish what makes it a Paragon, exactly.


Here ya go,

Handcrafted from pure SABIAN B20 bronze, Paragon offers subtle looks and powerful sounds. Created using automatic AA-style hammering and an innovative mix of sound-defining features from three SABIAN series, AA, AAX, and Hand Hammered, Paragon defines a new, closer relationship between power and musicality in cymbals that are dynamically responsive, highly durable, and effective in a wide range of applications."

[sticksnstonesrus]

"Coming to store near you...located next to the most convienient loan agency so you can process financing quickly and easily"

Gotta love new equipment on the street...

[stasz]

That is pretty cool, I'd like to hear one. I've always been intrigued by the Paragon line. I'm sure it has been asked, but what is unique about Paragons compared to other Sabian series?

I played a Paragon ride recently and while it sounded great, I wasn't able to distinguish what makes it a Paragon, exactly.

Designed in collaboration with Neil Peart to his specifications. Although some say that they're just Neil's name on a cymbal, I think that in themselves they are a unique line of cymbals.

I have seen a lot of drummers using his cymbals lately, though. Chris Pennie uses one of the original 2 chinas and Kris Myers uses the hi-hats.

[zambizzi]

That's easy - Neil.

Of course, whatever was I expecting? :)

[Joe P]

The Diamondback is a very strange chinese cymbal. It has very little attack, but is very sensitive. The way Neil used it in Armor and sword is to kind of "buff up" his 19" Chinese in "Armor and Sword". He plays it right-side up (gasp!) and taps it gently with the tip of his stick.

Listen to "Armor and Sword" on the recent Rush album "Snakes and Arrows". You can hear the Diamondback Chinese played on the upbeats of the beginning, with the 19" Chinese played on downbeats.

[danander11]

That is pretty cool, I'd like to hear one. I've always been intrigued by the Paragon line. I'm sure it has been asked, but what is unique about Paragons compared to other Sabian series?

I played a Paragon ride recently and while it sounded great, I wasn't able to distinguish what makes it a Paragon, exactly.

I can only speak to the Paragon Ride.... (Which I have and use).

The main thing I see differently than other rides I have used is the way the cymbal is constructed.. It seems to have a thicker bow (between the bell and midway out), than other rides, then it thins out towards the edge.. It is a versatile Ride that offers a number of different sounds if you will take the time to find your way around it.. For what I am playing now, I wanted to stay away from a strictly "rock" ride... I spent a few hours in a Guitar Center store in Tucson on my last visit to the states and went through almost all of their rides looking for something that would work, staying away from the Paragon because of it's size... the guy finally talked me into trying it, and I bought it on the spot.

I would still like a ride that is a bit more "airy" than the Paragon, but this cymbal covers all bases well.. One of the churches that I play at is in a school gym so the sound is terrible in there., and to me, the Paragon seems a bit harsh.. However, other drummers that come out seem to like it and say that it suits my style very well.. (not sure if that's a compliment or not).

Just my $0.02

[TopCat]

So it's a china with rivets in it. What's so revolutionary about that?

[stasz]

So it's a china with rivets in it. What's so revolutionary about that?

But it's a china with rivets in it that Neil Peart made.

[TopCat]

But it's a china with rivets in it that Neil Peart made.

You just blew my mind

[spartacus1989]

Neil Peart was using the china a hell of a lot in the Snakes And Arrows tour. He must really love his new China!