Keller shells

[bojangleman]

i was lookin around at places like AMDrumparts.com and Precisiondrum.com and lookin at all the shell sizes and prices... and my question is would it be a smart decision to order exactly what i want from them or buy something like it that is already to go? cause i want a 24" - 20" bass, but i cant get that really with out going custom. like i said, does anyone know anything about them and would it be a good choice?
thank ya!


Alex

[hawk9290]

Keller shells are high quality indeed, and most custom drum shops use keller shells, as well as formerly DW. Making drums is a challenge though, I would recommend doing some reading on the ghostnote forums, and checking out the tutorials on the drum foundry website

also, there are a lot of resources floating around the forums here. Just make sure you know what you are getting into before trying it on your own. If you do it right, it will give you a great feeling though.

[harryconway]

What exactly is your project? You want a 24x20 kick and what? A whole drum kit to match, or are you looking to build a monster kick to match an already existing drum set?

[bojangleman]

ok thanks, dont mean to brag or nothin. but me and my dad are really handy men, and my uncle is a carpenter..haha

Keller shells are high quality indeed, and most custom drum shops use keller shells, as well as formerly DW. Making drums is a challenge though, I would recommend doing some reading on the ghostnote forums, and checking out the tutorials on the drum foundry website

also, there are a lot of resources floating around the forums here. Just make sure you know what you are getting into before trying it on your own. If you do it right, it will give you a great feeling though.

yea...24x20 kick,13x9 tom, 16x16 floor, 18x16 floor. i want to get that. thanks and im kinda looking at a 26x20 kick too...but i dont know which to choose between those 2 kicks.

What exactly is your project? You want a 24x20 kick and what? A whole drum kit to match, or are you looking to build a monster kick to match an already existing drum set?

Alex

[harryconway]

Having "custom" drums made, expensive because you are paying for labor, somebody's cost of running a business and profit. Plus materials. DIY, cheaper(much) because "you" are the labor, you're not a business, and you're making the kit for yourself (exit profit). If you and family are "handy", you can save a boatload of cash. Ghostnote is a drum builders website. Check them out. http://www.ghostnote.net/GNWeb/georgeinterview.htm

[bojangleman]

ok thanks a bunch man!...

Having "custom" drums made, expensive because you are paying for labor, somebodies cost of running a business and profit. Plus materials. DIY, cheaper(much) because "you" are the labor, you're not a business, and you're making the kit for yourself (exit profit). If you and family are "handy", you can save a boatload of cash. Ghostnote is a drum builders website. Check them out. http://www.ghostnote.net/GNWeb/georgeinterview.htm

Alex

[bojangleman]

and another thing...probably a noob question, but those sizes i posted..would it be better to go with 6 ply or 8 on the toms...i was gonna go with 8 on the bass but what bout the toms?

thanks :)
Alex

[dom]

be sure to check out ghostnote. Just because your uncle is a carpenter doesn't mean he can build a good drum. Read up on ghostnote to the point where you can clearly explain how to do a snare bed or cut edges to him. If he is a dummer then you will be in luck.

My uncle is a carpenter too, and i just assumed he would know what i was talking about and ended up haveing to waste a bunch of shop time reading up on how to cut the bed and edges.

6 ply shells are going to give you a deeper overall sound and 8 ply shells are going to be more focused and just a little higher pitch. Both and it takes someone with a good ear to tell the diffrence. 8 will be stronger then 6 but if you take care of your stuff that shouldnt be a problem. Just pick the sound you want at go from there.

Read up on ghostnote you will learn alot and it will really crack you up sometimes too

[Madwatch]

yea...24x20 kick,13x9 tom, 16x16 floor, 18x16 floor. i want to get that. thanks and im kinda looking at a 26x20 kick too...but i dont know which to choose between those 2 kicks.
Alex

That would be a sweet set! The 24x20 would be way cool... but if you step up to the 26 I would recommend staying with a 14 or 16in depth if its going to be your main kick drum. The 26 will sound huge even with a 14in depth but as you go up its going to be extra boomy... unless thats what your after. I also have a 28x20 and its great but I dont use it for my main bass since its so big and boomy. You can always put something in it to control overtones but then whats the point of the extra deep kick other than looks... which is OK to if thats what your after.

[bojangleman]

ok thanks. naw he isnt a drummer..he just builds furniture.haha...yea...ive been reading and will keep reading up on it...and if i went with the 6 ply would it need reinforcement rings?

be sure to check out ghostnote. Just because your uncle is a carpenter doesn't mean he can build a good drum. Read up on ghostnote to the point where you can clearly explain how to do a snare bed or cut edges to him. If he is a dummer then you will be in luck.

My uncle is a carpenter too, and i just assumed he would know what i was talking about and ended up haveing to waste a bunch of shop time reading up on how to cut the bed and edges.

6 ply shells are going to give you a deeper overall sound and 8 ply shells are going to be more focused and just a little higher pitch. Both and it takes someone with a good ear to tell the diffrence. 8 will be stronger then 6 but if you take care of your stuff that shouldnt be a problem. Just pick the sound you want at go from there.

Read up on ghostnote you will learn alot and it will really crack you up sometimes too

Alex

[bojangleman]

yea..im kinda going for the boomy sound..but not too boomy...i think the 24x20 will work well

That would be a sweet set! The 24x20 would be way cool... but if you step up to the 26 I would recommend staying with a 14 or 16in depth if its going to be your main kick drum. The 26 will sound huge even with a 14in depth but as you go up its going to be extra boomy... unless thats what your after. I also have a 28x20 and its great but I dont use it for my main bass since its so big and boomy. You can always put something in it to control overtones but then whats the point of the extra deep kick other than looks... which is OK to if thats what your after.

Alex

[hawk9290]

you would not need rerings, however you might want to go with 6 ply on the toms and 8 ply on the kick.

[bojangleman]

ok thanks...that helps alot! :)

you would not need rerings, however you might want to go with 6 ply on the toms and 8 ply on the kick.

Alex

[Mendozart]

Bojangleman,
I see you posted over at Ghostnote. I was going to tell you about them, but a couple guys already mentioned it. There's alot of good info there. Just a little heads up, they can be a little vulgar at times, but it's all in good fun. There's some really good builders there.

[bojangleman]

haha, ok thanks. yea..im looking forward to the results.

Bojangleman,
I see you posted over at Ghostnote. I was going to tell you about them, but a couple guys already mentioned it. There's alot of good info there. Just a little heads up, they can be a little vulgar at times, but it's all in good fun. There's some really good builders there.

Alex

[crazyhorse]

Vulgar? Bah... we're a perfectly fine group of insane people =)

[bojangleman]

haha...nice...oh yea..and crazyhorse. like the sig!...hahaha


Alex