Slowest Metal Ever

[Thrash Drummer]

The band is swallow the sun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNBmB87C910
The drummer must be bored out of his mind..I know I would be.
Anyway I thought I'd share, its a good band is your into that dark sounding stuff.

[Drunkie]

Thats a pretty good song.

Yeah, is a bit slow. And he's probably bored. But its relaxing to go from what he's probably being doing to slow. Give him some time to chill. If you know what i mean.

[voldak]

I love Doom Metal. :) Swallow the Sun is a good band. If you are really into very very slow metal, check out "Teeth of Lion Rule the Divine" EXTREMELY slow metal. Even slower than Swallow the Sun. Also Sunn 0))) I'm not too familiar with them, but they are slow (i don't think they have drums though)

[Velimor]

I'm not a huge doom metal fan, but the song was pretty good. Reverend Bizarre and Mournful Congregation are my favorite doom metal bands, the latter being very sloooooooooooow.

[fourstringdrums]

How do you count this? I'm having a really hard time finding the one, unless it's just too slow for my brain :)

*edit* Oh god, this style of singing is even worse in a song this slow.

[maddrummr]

i wonder how hard his throat hurts after one concert.

[Velimor]

I can respect that. Personally, I like growling, but much of the time I like a combination of growling and clean singing better. Bands like Folkearth, Falkenbach, and Menhir use clean singing a good portion of the time, but when the song calls for aggression, they growl. It all depends on the context. I wouldn't want to hear, say, Pungent Stench, using clean singing. It just doesn't sound right with grindcore. But I love a good power metal band, where a large emphasis is placed high-pitched singing much of the time.

Anyway, back to doom metal. To anyone who doesn't like growling, but likes what they heard in Thrash Drummer's video, Reverend Bizarre doesn't employ any growling. They're a little older school and have some Sabbath-y moments, but an excellent band.

[fourstringdrums]

It figures there would be some negative response to growling on a non-metal forum. First, I'll admit that he isn't the best vocalist I've heard, but this is the only time I've heard the band, and I could picture him sounding good in the studio. Second, growling, screaming, etc require talent and practice to sound good and to do it properly without damaging the vocal cords.



This is singing. Maybe not the kind you like, but it is a style of singing.

One question I've always had is why singers in metal bands like this even bother writing lyrics. You can't understand a word they say. He could be growling about rainbows and sunshine and we'd never know.

[Velimor]

One question I've always had is why singers in metal bands like this even bother writing lyrics. You can't understand a word they say. He could be growling about rainbows and sunshine and we'd never know.

The songs and lyrics still have meaning, even if the listener can't understand.

Though it helps to have a copy of the lyrics to read while you listen ;)

[LiveGoat]

Cookie Monster can croon! The Melvins were already doing this in the late eighties. And Sabbath in the early 70's

--LG

[TopCat]

Cookie Monster can croon! The Melvins were already doing this in the late eighties. And Sabbath in the early 70's

--LG

Bingo.

Not really my bag, but a good band nonetheless.

EDIT* Ok, Larlev, your posts are just narrow-minded nonsense. Like so many other arguments on this forum, to like this music is purely subjective. For you to make a statement like 'If you are going to sing...sing....no talent whatsoever in the vocals' is just letting everyone else know how ignorant you really are.

I mean, why would anyone like something you didn't think was good? hm?

It's just another form of artistic expression, some guy comes here to share his love for it and you shoot him down. Way to go pops.

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

Ya, I was going to mention the Melvins and even Type O Negative already has this down. Their stuff is much better in my opinion.

[el_frenko]

Cookie Monster can croon!

hahahaha!!

i was going to say "chewbacca on ketamine", but i think your's is better :)

[hawk9290]

How do you count this? I'm having a really hard time finding the one, unless it's just too slow for my brain :)


it took me a while to figure it out, but i think its 4/4
Between each crash (listening to his ride notes) I get sixteen beats, and the snare is on 5 and 13, so its just very slow sixteenth notes. The bass drum notes that slow make is hard to figure out, and i think i heard some triplets in there which makes it all the worse, but i'm counting 4/4 to it and its all working out.

[fourstringdrums]

it took me a while to figure it out, but i think its 4/4
Between each crash (listening to his ride notes) I get sixteen beats, and the snare is on 5 and 13, so its just very slow sixteenth notes. The bass drum notes that slow make is hard to figure out, and i think i heard some triplets in there which makes it all the worse, but i'm counting 4/4 to it and its all working out.

I think he has a displaced (right word?) backbeat in there that makes it feel like something else as well. I think that's what confused me the most.

[kung_f00]

I wasn't big on that particular video, but I checked out some others, and I really liked Descending Winters. I think one of the advantages of playing to the slower tempo (for the drummer) is that he can add more to a fill. For metal, yeah, it's slow.. but it's still pretty damn good.

However, I've never really considered keyboardists to be metal. :P

[That Guy]

However, I've never really considered keyboardists to be metal. :P

Anything goes these days and I think its cool. Now, music did have that older hair-band Europe who had a keyboardist, and some people considered them to be metal, I'M NOT ONE.

*sings*.. its the final countdown.

Oh god, thats gonna be in my head all day.

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

However, I've never really considered keyboardists to be metal. :P

Hah.. Keyboards were widely used in metal of the 90s. The keyboard player for Manson was my favorite member of the band when I was into them years ago. Nine Inch Nails?

[Thrash Drummer]

I think keyboardists fit in certain styles of metal..
In my opinion keyboardists sound best when they add symphonic parts to the song, like all of dimmu borgir's stuff. The only other thing they should be able to do in metal is blinding solos at the speed of light. (Children of Bodom). Other than those things.. nothing seems to fit the genre.

I like bands that have the effects of a keyboardist.

[secondXheartbeat]

Keyboards are always fun, if used properly and without campy effects.



As for the band, I'm not a HUGE fan of doom but I can respect them as musicians and the drummer sounds very creative.

[jonescrusher]

This makes me want to dig out my old video tapes of Noisy Mothers, which some UK cats might remember from the 90's. One sticks in my mind of footage of Dream Theater (!) at Ronnie Scott's (!!) with guest vocals from Barney of Napalm Death (!!!) covering Metallica's Damage Inc. (!!!). Awesome Vocals, awesome growler.

[metalheadeza666]

Yeah, is a bit slow. And he's probably bored. But its relaxing to go from what he's probably being doing to slow. Give him some time to chill. If you know what i mean.


too true =]
i know that i deffinatley appreciate a break during a set

takes a level of appreciation really doesn't it? i definatley like the track, but i couldn't help but feel a little, for want of a better word, frustrated listening to it, waiting for the band to break off into a more upbeat part, oh well

peace

[Acronomic]

This band is great! I don't think they are magnificent live yet, but their studio work is just incredible. I enjoy the drumming as well.

[moe.ron]

my favorite slow metal of all time is soundgarden's 4th of july no growling just perfection

[MSUMetal]

Speeking of slow (I haven't listened yet) anyone else notice on one of their other video's it's called "Don't Fall Asleep?" I thought it was kinda funny...

[mofle]

THIS is slow.

Sunn 0))) Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KkUfg0Pdek&mode=related&search=)

[Anchein Vouivra]

Sunn 0))) freaks me out, damn nightmarish music. I've heard they do shows in cathedrals that must be some kind tortured experience to live specially when they play with twisted guests such as Merzbow, Jazzkammer or Peter Rohberg.

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

Sounds like one of the songs from 'White 2'. Bass Aliens perhaps? I have that album and I used to like it a lot. I've still got it somewhere, maybe I'll break it out again.

[mofle]

Sunn 0))) freaks me out, damn nightmarish music. I've heard they do shows in cathedrals that must be some kind tortured experience to live specially when they play with twisted guests such as Merzbow, Jazzkammer or Peter Rohberg.

They played in a cathdral near where I live in Norway. I regret that I never got to see them...
It would have been a creepy experience...

[Mr. Pasquini]

My favorite doom metal band is The Sword... They're supposed to be in the studio recording a new album but that could just be speculation. They're a lot different than these guys.

[volume_3]

Speeking of slow (I haven't listened yet) anyone else notice on one of their other video's it's called "Don't Fall Asleep?" I thought it was kinda funny...

Ha i noticed that too, made me chuckle.

Sunn O))) are great, really haunting stuff.

I watched the video... it was good, uptil the point where the guys starts to "sing".

I really like metal music, im a big fan of bands like Pelican and Isis, etc, but this is just a bit boring for me.

[mikei]

That singer ruined it for me.

My god, why do people think that type of singing is cool?

I do think that from a drumming perspective, it would be tough to keep good time that slow. Hard to get into the groove

[TheGroceryman]

THIS is slow.

Sunn 0))) Live

Can you even legitemately call that music? Pff... i cant.

[radiofriendlyunitshifter]

good thing he brought that second bass drum.

[brittc89]

Can you even legitemately call that music? Pff... i cant.

I was having trouble really finding the appeal of that as well.

[crdirtRider856]

Wow, a little too slow for me but I could listen to it. I know this thread hasnt had a post in almost a year but whatever. Check out the bands- Kyuss, St fightis, or Crowbar, my favorite doom rock band, pretty cool drums too

[burnthehero]

Those guys must be really depressed.

[FourOnSix]

I listened to 3 sun 0))) videos and waited for them to actually start playing something...


...needless to say, I was disapointed. IT sounds like a 7 year old with a half stack. There was a trombone and a keyboard in the background. But all I could hear was

BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,BLAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAA,BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, BLA, BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, BLA, BLA, BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA....


I can't imagine anything more annoying. I feel like this isn't even actuall music, just noise that gets played at guantanamo bay as a form of torture.

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

Still listening to White 2 over here and still loving it. It's fantastic, takes the Eno concept of ambient backgrounds to the new generation. Brilliant.

[Fett2oo5]

wow, um.....
To each his own I guess. I couldn't get past 2 minutes of it, I didn't like it.

I really tried to give it a shot, I listen to a very wide range of music, but I just couldn't listen to it any more, sorry.

@ fourstringdrums : it's difficult to count what he is playing because he isn't staying in time, he is fluxuating the tempo to much.

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

Fair enough! It's everyone to their own. Listening to something like Brian Eno's 'Neroli' gives you a good basis on which to build into newer bands like Sunn, but the principles are largely the same. It's not really designed as 'music' to be 'listened' to as such, but more as a means to invoke an emotive state. If you approach it from that point of view, it makes more sense; but that doesn't mean you like it.

[Class A Drummer]

Good time keeping hahaa. Definitley not my type of music but i guess others like it.

[Gyrefalcon]

Personally I am into the more sludgy side of doom (especially the ones without the crap lyrics).


For all of those who say that Sunn O))) and similar isn't music, you should check out some of John Cage's writings and music, he gives much the same perspective on music, but from a classical instead of metal background.

[crdirtRider856]

I listened to 3 sun 0))) videos and waited for them to actually start playing something...BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA,BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, BLA, BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, BLA, BLA, BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA....
I can't imagine anything more annoying. I feel like this isn't even actuall music, just noise .

I appreciate your opinion(or the worse"in all due respect") but I dont think you need to take this much space or effort to say how much you dont like something. Music is music, even if its rap or hip-hop. If you hate it that much then just give a simple "thumbs down", or a Fett 2oo5 type response thats all that is needed, and a little bit more respected, Thanks

[crdirtRider856]

Those guys must be really depressed.

They might be, or they might not be. Personally I dont find this music deppresing at all. I wont say its the best example of doom rock, but its not the worst. To be honest, one of my favorite bands is Opeth, they have incredibly deppresing and foreboding lyrics, but their music has a way of lifting my soul, on the other hand-my all-time favorite band Porcupine Tree, has incredibly relevant lyrics but still doesn t exactly "lift my spirit". I guess music is the one thing left in this world that gives the listener the choice, and discretion, to take it for what it means to the individual listening. Oh yeah, I love Tool so much that I cant even listen to them anymore, too much self-destruction and confusion there. Right now I cant subject myself to 'em. But I still love their music!

[FourOnSix]

I appreciate your opinion(or the worse"in all due respect") but I dont think you need to take this much space or effort to say how much you dont like something. Music is music, even if its rap or hip-hop. If you hate it that much then just give a simple "thumbs down", or a Fett 2oo5 type response thats all that is needed, and a little bit more respected, Thanks

I don't like to state opinions without backing...

[crdirtRider856]

I don't like to state opinions without backing...

OK , so what are you saying? < I > will not deliberately put something out with a long strand of AAAA's and BLAAAAH's without at least an explanation of what I feel is wrong with what I am posting "my opinion" on. I respect your taste, just not your reply...seems like a typical youtube-type comment. Its cool though, I guess.....DRUM ON!

[jonescrusher]

[QUOTE=crdirtdider856;454405.seems like a typical youtube-type comment. I[/QUOTE]


Some here are just typical Youtube commenters....

[CopperBomb]

Not heard the band and I can't watch the vid at work, but as far as doom metal bands go, no-one has mentioned Candlemass. I really like their stuff, especially songs like Sorcerer's Pledge & Through The Infinite Halls Of Death. Besides that, I can't say I've really gotten into other doom metal bands.

On the vocal side of things though, it is, as has been said, each to their own. Personally I like a good bit of Grindcore. It's more the whole feel of thin thing rather than what the songs are trying to say (and to be honest, half the lyrics are nonsense anyway, but who cares - it's fun)

I always remember an interview with Napalm Death back when Lee Dorian was the 'singer' and he openly admitted to just making grunting sounds as they played too fast for him to put any words in! I used to show that video to all my mates like "look at this - how silly is that?" and it ended up growing on me.

[Mr. Pasquini]

I wish I had taken the time to read through this before, I like sun O)) quite a bit (though I personally don't have any of their music). I am really digging the video where Malefic of the band Xasthur (Xasthur is a killer black metal band) enters the stage, killer stuff; dark as hell.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hxp304tivas

[FourOnSix]

OK , so what are you saying? < I > will not deliberately put something out with a long strand of AAAA's and BLAAAAH's without at least an explanation of what I feel is wrong with what I am posting "my opinion" on. I respect your taste, just not your reply...seems like a typical youtube-type comment. Its cool though, I guess.....DRUM ON!

the blaaaahhhs were the best textual representation of the noises coming from my speakers...

What's wrong with what I am posting "my opinion" on, is exactly what I said it was, the long rediculous stacked octaves that i assume is supposed to be the melody. I hard;y think that anything I typed would qualify as a typical youtube comment, as you put it. but like you said, it's all about the drums in the end. (which that video had none of. sorry had to sneak that in there ha)

[Fett2oo5]

To be honest, one of my favorite bands is Opeth,

Opeth! Nice choice.

[crdirtRider856]

Opeth! Nice choice.

Yeah, I love every cd that they ve released but when I found out that Martin Lopez had left, I was a little dissapointed to say the least. Max is good, but hasnt really impressed me like Martin. I ll most likely warm up to the new lineup though. After all Mikeal Ackerfeldt is just a genius when it comes to arranging. I met him at Sounds of The Underground, and he was actually alot funnier and "jovial?" than I expected. Just seemed like a pretty cool guy. That made me like Opeth even more.