Seeking hardware advice

[Tazdrummer]

I have been out of drumming for too long (15 years).

I am about to (hopefully.... if the bonus check arrives Friday) purchase some boom cymbal stands, a bass pedal, (and hopefully) a throne to complete my set.

I am, of course, on a budget.

I ran across this package (first link I found so I could illustrate) (http://www.musicstoreinc.com/index.php?content=itemshow&itemnum=gb4600) but it sounds like that is some lightweight stuff.

Is there any particular brand of hardware/model I should stay away from?

Any advice would be appreciated in regards to the stands and pedals.

(I am guestimating I will have about $200 to play with.... I got other plans for the throne, but thats another story).

[drum.lad]

hey man welcome to drummerworld although im new myself.anyway that pack looks good for your needs and it does not look flimsy or weak to me.all the major drum companies make good hardware maybe check out dw but i think the pack u have selected is good for a man who is on a budget and wants quality

[Tazdrummer]

hey man welcome to drummerworld although im new myself.anyway that pack looks good for your needs and it does not look flimsy or weak to me.all the major drum companies make good hardware maybe check out dw but i think the pack u have selected is good for a man who is on a budget and wants quality

I read a review someone put up that said it was too lightweight.

Thats why I figured I would ask around too.

Also, I am getting refamiliar with the brands and the equipment. I ain't sure if a bass pedal with a single chain drive is junk compared to a two chain pedal.

[fourstringdrums]

Gibraltar makes top notch hardware, and that hardware is double braced so it will hold up just fine for what you need. Complaints about the hardware being too lightweight and what not usually comes down to personal preference so I wouldn't put too much stock in it.

I have the REALLY light weight flat base Gibraltar Hardware and it's very sturdy. I wouldn't mount a ton of stuff on it, but that's because it's not meant for it. But the double braced stuff will be fine.

[Tazdrummer]

Gibraltar makes top notch hardware, and that hardware is double braced so it will hold up just fine for what you need. Complaints about the hardware being too lightweight and what not usually comes down to personal preference so I wouldn't put too much stock in it.

I have the REALLY light weight flat base Gibraltar Hardware and it's very sturdy. I wouldn't mount a ton of stuff on it, but that's because it's not meant for it. But the double braced stuff will be fine.

Hmmmm.... I am now more intrigued.

What about the bass pedal on that pack? Is a single chain good or should I get a double chain?

Right now, it is kind of between that Gibraltar pack or two PDP P/D 800 Boom cymbal stands, a Tama HP200 Iron Cobra Jr. Pedal with Footplate (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Tama-HP200-Iron-Cobra-Jr.-Pedal-with-Footplate?sku=449033) or a P120P Pearl PowerShifter or a PDP Single Pedal 450 for the pedal.

[fourstringdrums]

Hmmmm.... I am now more intrigued.

What about the bass pedal on that pack? Is a single chain good or should I get a double chain?

Right now, it is kind of between that Gibraltar pack or two PDP P/D 800 Boom cymbal stands, a Tama HP200 Iron Cobra Jr. Pedal with Footplate (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Tama-HP200-Iron-Cobra-Jr.-Pedal-with-Footplate?sku=449033) or a P120P Pearl PowerShifter or a PDP Single Pedal 450 for the pedal.

I would get the Gibraltar over the PDP. PDP makes good stands, but the Gibraltar is better IMO. For the pedal, a single chain would be fine for now. I believe a double chain as a slightly more powerful feel, but I'm not too experienced with the difference. The Pearl P120P is a great pedal, so you can't go wrong with that. I'm not familiar with Gibraltar pedals so I'd personally get the Pearl, but I'm sure either would be fine. The Pearl is more adjustable in that you can move the heel plate forward or back to alter the feel, so that's a plus. I'd personally stay away from the PDP. It's on the bottom of the list as far as I'm concerned. For about the same money or perhaps a bit more, the Gibraltar and Pearl will last longer and feel better.

[harryconway]

I just sold all of my old Tama double braced stands and replaced them with Yamaha single braced (600-light/700-medium series) stands. I'm not flying my cymbals 6' off the floor anymore, so I don't need the weight. But I am still gigging out a lot, so I need good quality stuff. All my Yamaha stands I've bought off eBay cost me in the range of $25-50 delivered. If you plan on a lot of tearing down and setting up, I think you'll find the Gibraltar stuff will become disposable, with time. I pretty much moved all my Gibraltar stuff along, what didn't fall apart. But if you're gonna set it up and leave it up, it should work just fine. As far as pedals go, get your feet on as many as you can. There are just so many good ones out there. I play the Yamaha Flying Dragon Direct Drive (single) and the Off-Set http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/hrconway/134-3415_IMG.jpg (double). Two completely different beasts and I love them both. Find the pedal that's right "for you". I was playing a Tama IC Jr. a few weeks ago, driving someone elses kit, and it was a good little pedal. I've had a DW 5000 double and a DW 5000A3 single, and the Tama Jr. felt very similar. But then it should, all those pedals are based on the Camco pedal.

[Just Drums]

Gibraltar makes top notch hardware, and that hardware is double braced so it will hold up just fine for what you need. Complaints about the hardware being too lightweight and what not usually comes down to personal preference so I wouldn't put too much stock in it.

I have the REALLY light weight flat base Gibraltar Hardware and it's very sturdy. I wouldn't mount a ton of stuff on it, but that's because it's not meant for it. But the double braced stuff will be fine.


I totally support this statement. I'm a big Gibraltar fan and have a ton of it in my shop. The flat base stuff is cool, light weight, and very sturdy (within reason). I used it on a Pork Pie kit I just built. Be sure to check out the pic links at the bottom of this page:

http://www.justdrumsonline.com/store/pc-1881-264-pork-pie-4pc-kit-in-white-marine-pearl-floor-model.aspx

Further more, I'm fairly certain the hardware you listed above, the Gibraltar 4600 series is obsolete and is now "Dixon" hardware. Gibraltar hardware starts at the 5600 series and goes up. The flatbase stuff is their 8600 series.

Feel free to ask me any questions you might have about their hardware. Hope this helps!!

[fijjibo]

I would go with the Gibraltar pack, their stands are top notch and not too pricy.

[Mendozart]

You also can't go wrong with Tama Roadpro series hardware. When I had my 80's Tama kit, I sold all the Titan series hardware and replaced it with the Roadpro stuff. Plus, they have alot of great clamps and accessories that work really well.
I forgot to add, do as Harry Conway said and go the ebay route. That's what I did, there's tons of good used hardware out there.