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Crydevil
07-28-2007, 12:20 AM
Hi guys, it's been long since i posted on this forum (not that i've actually made lots of posts :P, maybe 2 or 3 :D), but now i have a little problem with my new Ludwig snaredrum, and what better place to go and ask a question about drumming? :D

Here's the encounter of the snare before the problem began: the snare sounds absolutely FANTASTIC, OMG !!!
The first hit gave me thrills down my spine :D
It's like John Bonham on How The West Was Won :P

And then here's the problem:
I do too many rim-shots, so the lugs get loose very often, which brings it out of tuning.
And thats not really something u need during a show or something.

So my question is:
How do i solve this problem without too much modification or anything like that? :P
And changing the way i hit my snare would be a though job for me :P
But is it even normal that the lugs come loose after hitting some rim-shots.

Please dont blame me for doing this though :P we all know they sound SO POWERFUL :D

Well, anyway thx alot in advance,
Greetz, Steven Miller (Meuleman in Dutch)

PreppieNerd
07-28-2007, 12:31 AM
Someone makes special tension rods that don't detune easily. I don't remember the company though.

mikei
07-28-2007, 12:33 AM
I play lots of rim shots as well. My Supraphonic stays in tune pretty well.

What heads are you using?

It is an amazing sounding drum isn't it??

Crydevil
07-28-2007, 12:37 AM
Yeah man, absolutely right, the sound is freaking AMAZING, it's the best snare on earth, and now it's Ludwig forever ! :)

But i use a Remo Emperor X on the batter side :).

Thx for the replies till now :D
Steven Miller

Steady Freddy
07-28-2007, 12:39 AM
That's a common problem. You can use Lug Locks to keep the tension rods from backing out. They're small plastic squares that press down over the top of the rods and keep them from backing out.

I usually have an Evans torque drum key preset to the snare's batter head tension and use it to tension the rods up between songs.

Hope that helps.

Mendozart
07-28-2007, 12:49 AM
I had the same problem with my Supraphonic 402 and my local drum shop (West Coast Drums) gave me some tension rods that have a urethane strip on the threads. They work great. I only use them where I hit rimshots. I don't know who makes them though.

ermghoti
07-28-2007, 01:34 AM
http://www.tightscrew.com/

Mendozart
07-28-2007, 02:18 AM
http://www.tightscrew.com/

Those would be the ones.

rockinrider
07-28-2007, 02:58 AM
..... You can use Lug Locks to keep the tension rods from backing out....


Here's the link for Lug Locks:

http://www.luglock.com/luglock.htm

Since I'm so poor and cheap, I made my own. I cut them from plastic milk or soda bottles:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w302/rockinrider_photos/Drums/luglock2.jpg http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w302/rockinrider_photos/Drums/Luglock1.jpg

I press them over the top of the lug with the long flat side against the inside of the hoop.

These really work! lol

Crydevil
07-28-2007, 01:56 PM
Thanks for all your help guys, i'll be sure to check it out at my nearest music shop :D

BellsOfRhymney
07-30-2007, 12:31 AM
Every hit is a rimshot on my SuperSensitive ..nothing changes, maybe cause I don't hit hard.