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BsHollywood
06-25-2007, 05:11 AM
Okay, So I was checking this stuff out on guitarcenter.com, and it has some great reviews. They all say you only need one per drum, and it takes out all the ringing and such. Does anyone have experiance using these? Yes, I am a beginner, and i know tuning is the key to good sounding drums, but humor me. Thanks.
Wavelength
06-25-2007, 05:26 AM
Does anyone have experiance using these?
Moongel does what it promises to do.
Alex H
06-25-2007, 03:48 PM
I just picked up some of these last week along with a new bass drum beater and I'm really impressed with them. While you're correct in saying that tuning is the key, these things really help. Not only that, but they (I think) give you a few more possibilities tuning. For example, if you like to tune high but hate the ringing...moongel. I would definitely reccomend getting some. Besides, they're less than 10 dollars, if you don't like them, you haven't lost a whole lot.
voldak
06-25-2007, 04:51 PM
Moon Gel is definitely worth the purchase. I like the ringing of my snare for live performances, but for recording moon gel does the trick.
drumtechdad
06-25-2007, 06:26 PM
The best thing is it's infinitely adjustable. You can use multiple pieces or cut them up for smaller ones. You can also place them where they do the most good (and least harm). This is unlike the sound control rings such as those from Aquarian and Remo, which often do too much.
As mentioned before, the better you tune the less you'll need them. Also, if you're playing out unmiked, leave the muffling off (and out of your bass drum)--your drums will carry MUCH better that way. If you're being miked, then try and make the engineer happy. ;-)
SilverPearl
06-25-2007, 06:31 PM
or if your snare has an adjustable internal muffler you could just tighten that.
The best thing is it's infinitely adjustable. You can use multiple pieces or cut them up for smaller ones. You can also place them where they do the most good (and least harm).
this has been my experience in the studio- they can give you exactly what you need; I've even hung half a MG off the rim so that only a tiny bit touched the head and it was perfect.
If you absolutely need to muffle, Moongel is your best option, IMO
drumbandit
06-25-2007, 06:52 PM
Their versibility makes them a good (and affordable) buy, just because as everyone else has said, you can make them smaller and put them basically anywhere.
Tom
Wavelength
06-25-2007, 07:27 PM
or if your snare has an adjustable internal muffler you could just tighten that.
Yeah, if you like that dead sound and unnatural feel... Internal mufflers are devil's inventions.
drumtechdad
06-25-2007, 11:32 PM
Yeah, if you like that dead sound and unnatural feel... Internal mufflers are devil's inventions.
Different situations require different sounds from your drums.
When playing out unmiked, you let your drums resonate as much as you want; it helps them project through the mix.
On the other hand, if you're in the studio or miked-up live, you'll need to tone down the upper harmonics coming from your drums. (Try listening to one of your drums from 1-2" away--that's what a microphone hears.)
You may disapprove, fine. But it's the engineer who's going to make your drums sound good--or not--in the final product.
I'm old enough to remember when nearly all drums (toms, too) came with internal mufflers. Nothing devilish about them; if you don't like what they do you leave them disengaged.
Since internal mufflers somehow became frowned upon by those on-high, we've had a whole mini-industry devoted to muffling drums after the fact develop. Weird.
IDDrummer
06-26-2007, 12:13 AM
Their versibility makes them a good (and affordable) buy
Tom
lol - I'm going to guess you meant versatility, since versibility isn't really a word!
(No need to respond, I'm just razzin' you.)
BsHollywood
06-26-2007, 12:22 AM
So I went out and bought them today. It was pretty much an instant orgasim for my snare, the toms on the other hand, helped a little, but could be better, I have to mess with it more. Im sure they probably would sound better if I messed with the tuning now? Or maybe I need another set?
drumbandit
06-26-2007, 12:42 AM
silly me. versatility is a word, something with many uses my dictionary says. but not what i said.
Tutin
06-26-2007, 02:22 AM
Yeah... Get moongel...
dharma bum
06-26-2007, 02:32 AM
When you play gigs in different rooms, there's always acoustic differences. Moongel is great because you can tune the drums to resonate, but if it's too much in a particular room, you can slap 'em on and you're off to the races. I always carry them, and use 'em most of the time in some way. Remember, if they lose stickiness, just rinse 'em. They'll last forever.
Aquamaroon
06-27-2007, 01:27 PM
What about using some tape instead? Sure is cheaper.
jordison266
06-27-2007, 03:14 PM
I've used it on toms in studio situations and it really can make the drum sound completely dead.
However, on bigger drums such as floor toms and kicks, i think it could probably work quite well but i've always found gaffa tape works beast for me to be honest as it takes out the ringy overtones and sustain but still lets the drum breathe, also, its like £5 for a huge roll of the stuff.
Cheers
Geoff_fry01
06-27-2007, 05:03 PM
tell you whats cheaper if you live in the UK..
go into Wilkinsons store... go to exit where plastic Egg machines are with kids toys inside.. pay 20p (really 20P) for a sticky toy... ta da.. out pops a moongell.... sadly they are shaped like butterflys or birds etc, but they are flat (about old 50p sized) and work as well as moongel.. infact I am pretty sure they are made from exactly the same material....
or get a good job and buy moongel :)
G
voldak
06-27-2007, 08:03 PM
get a good job and buy moongel :)
G
or look under your couch cushions...it's not that much money :)
georgeman
06-28-2007, 03:33 AM
there has been a members name that is for everything.
tama
ironcobra
...
and
is there a reason my sister can't be around it
-george
The Gare
06-30-2007, 01:34 AM
I have used Moon Gels for a coupls of years now. I ALWAYS use them on my snares. I usually tune up high and tight and htey take that ring out no problem. They are easy to move around and re-usable. I have never really had to use them on toms, but they would work well. Actually, I cant remember the last time I did not use a MG on my snare?
So yes, get some!
That Guy
06-30-2007, 02:11 AM
I can't speak from experience because I never used it. I have heard rumors that they can leave a nasty sticky film on the head, and within time the head can break down where it is placed.
Just what I heard.
Pocketman
06-30-2007, 02:20 AM
[QUOTE=That Guy;329037I have heard rumors that they can leave a nasty sticky film on the head, and within time the head can break down where it is placed..[/QUOTE]
That sounds more like duct tape LOL.
I've used them for years when working with a sound man. They're easier to use than anything else I've seen for some quick muffling.
That Guy
06-30-2007, 02:24 AM
Like I said... "I have heard rumors." I guess you haven't experienced it. OH, also... heard the problems seem to occur more with coated heads.
The Gare
06-30-2007, 08:37 PM
Those rumors are untrue, at least in my experience. I have used them for at least 3 years, almost exclusively on my snare, and never have had them break down a head or leave any residue. Well worth having in your toolbox.
fourstringdrums
06-30-2007, 10:20 PM
I used to use them, but not so much any more. I try to tune to where I don't need them. I always figure that any unpleasant overtones or extra ringing won't be heard out front. When I did, they did exactly what they said they'd do.
I don't know if I'm the only one, but I've found that the last few batches of Moongel that I used weren't as sticky and didn't stay on the head as well.
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