Ripped off...

[Mr. Pasquini]

F'n book I bought the other day, first book I've ever purchased and I'm really f'n pissed. Some fun groove book but it doesn't teach ANYTHING. No multiple strikes per and it tells you which limb to use for what... I'm really mad, there aren't any interesting rhythms, either. It's all in 4/4! I'm really pissed... $24... you think the place will take it back? The guy recommended it to me... I'm just so mad...
Please don't say $24 isn't much money, that helps me none.


Anyone wanna recommend a not too difficult book, that has some semi complicated rhythms... just a low intermediate groove book? Thanks in advance.

[fijjibo]

Take a deep breath.....


seriously, take the book back and voice your disappointment.


Book wise, try getting Tommy Igoe's groove essentials book and maybe the DVD too.

[jayp]

My teacher recommended me "A Funky Primer" this book is awesome for beginner to intermediate exersises, I only paid 12$ for this book and would recommend it to ANYONE the possibilities are endless! check it out and if you decide to pick it up, let me know what you think of it? Also of course stick control, and I just picked up some reading material, "The art of bop drumming" by john riley witch seems like it should be some great reading.

[mikei]

F'n book I bought the other day, first book I've ever purchased and I'm really f'n pissed. Some fun groove book but it doesn't teach ANYTHING. No multiple strikes per and it tells you which limb to use for what... I'm really mad, there aren't any interesting rhythms, either. It's all in 4/4! I'm really pissed... $24... you think the place will take it back? The guy recommended it to me... I'm just so mad...
Please don't say $24 isn't much money, that helps me none.


Anyone wanna recommend a not too difficult book, that has some semi complicated rhythms... just a low intermediate groove book? Thanks in advance.
Easy dude, that isn't much money!!!

Just kidding. I would try to take it back, but most books and DVDs are not returnable.

You might be SOL.

[WYdrummer09]

Two books i'd highly reccomend are...

The Funky Beat by: David Garibaldi

&

The Code of Funk by David Garibaldi


(The Code of Funk is a bit of a challenging book, it places you as Garibaldi, and you learn step by step, how to play what he plays, and then you sit in with the band on the cd and play. It's pretty challenging near the end, but i've also learned many cool grooves from it.)

[NUTHA JASON]

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1001 DRUM GROOVES
By Steve Mansfield
STAR RATING:
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WORDED RATING:
Very useful as a groove and beat resource and a site reading exercise to boot.
TARGET AUDIENCE:
Beginner onwards
PUBLISHED BY:
Cherry lane music company
DESCRIPTION:
No jokes … there really are 1001 drum grooves in this book neatly organised by genre. Rock and funk (40 pages), blues and jazz (31 pages), ethnic (10 pages), afro-Cuban and Caribbean (20 pages). Sometimes the variation between one and another are slight though but all in all this book is a fantastic resource.

[kung_f00]

F'n book I bought the other day, first book I've ever purchased and I'm really f'n pissed. Some fun groove book but it doesn't teach ANYTHING. No multiple strikes per and it tells you which limb to use for what... I'm really mad, there aren't any interesting rhythms, either. It's all in 4/4! I'm really pissed... $24... you think the place will take it back? The guy recommended it to me... I'm just so mad...
Please don't say $24 isn't much money, that helps me none.


Anyone wanna recommend a not too difficult book, that has some semi complicated rhythms... just a low intermediate groove book? Thanks in advance.

What book did you buy? $24 seems like a TON for your regular run-of-the-mill intermediate drum book.
Jason suggested a great book, as did jayp. Funky Primer is an easy read, and I think it'll help you out a lot. I'm also a big fan of the Rick Considine book "Rudiment Grooves for Drumset". It's good it you're looking for a groove book, and even better if you want to strengthen your rudiments.

[DestinationDrumming]

I think if you do take it back do so with a polite explaination and a bit of humour. If you go in all guns blazing you'll get nowhere - my own experience has taught me that!

See if they have the books Nutha, jayp, and WYdrummer09 have recommended. Most shops I know will be much more likely to go for a swap than a straight refund and this time open them and have a look for yourself! (Unless they're shrink wrapped of course, in which case ask they shop assistant to open them)

Good luck

[brittc89]

Wait, didnt you look through it before you bought it? If you did and still just got it because the guy said it was good, I dont really have any sympathy for you. And I personally doubt the store will take it back, unless you had some guarantee that you would be satisfied by it with them, but I bet thats not the case. Maybe if it was a local shop you could have some lenient return policy luck, though.

[Mr. Pasquini]

Wait, didnt you look through it before you bought it? If you did and still just got it because the guy said it was good, I dont really have any sympathy for you. And I personally doubt the store will take it back, unless you had some guarantee that you would be satisfied by it with them, but I bet thats not the case. Maybe if it was a local shop you could have some lenient return policy luck, though.

I looked at the first few pages and it explained that it had a different notation system, I figured it was more complicated than it looked and the guy said it was a "good book" with "good grooves"... which it isn't. It uses Swiss notation, if anyone's ever heard of that... I really should have taken my time, I just figured if the guy that had given me good advice before said it was great, then I should probably listen to him. I think he assumes I'm far less advanced than I am.. though I'm no great drummer I can hit the high hat and the bass drum both at once...

[Just Drums]

Sorry bro. Did I miss the name of the book?

Some books can seem deceptively simple at first but can be very useful. Realistic Rock, The New Breed and Stick Control come to mind. Great books but you might not "get it" by just thumbing through them. You have to try them and apply the exercises......

[Mr. Pasquini]

World-Beat & Funk Grooves (it's a Mel Bay book) is the name of the book, I'm just really not finding anything that seems applicable (let alone particularly difficult). Maybe I'm stupid and I'm just not looking at the right stuff.

[kung_f00]

World-Beat & Funk Grooves (it's a Mel Bay book) is the name of the book, I'm just really not finding anything that seems applicable (let alone particularly difficult). Maybe I'm stupid and I'm just not looking at the right stuff.

Actually, no.. I checked out the book on Amazon, and I read the excerpt in the introduction, it says that "many of these are linear arrangements", which more-or-less means that they're written so that each limb hits at a different time. And actually, I'm a big fan of linear drumming -- true, to most guys who are used to seeing overlapping notes and whatnot it looks strange, but if you give it a chance, linear grooves are pretty fun. One of my favorite linear grooves comes from Mike Clark, and to this day I still try and fit it into new grooves that I'm creating.

Of course, if linear grooves aren't your thing, you're probably not going to enjoy the book and should look into returning it. Linear drumming is kind of.. 'avant garde', or better yet.. an acquired taste. If you'd rather look for more straightforward grooves, you probably won't find them in that book. Hope that helps.

[Mr. Pasquini]

I guess I just didn't understand the concept. Guess I'm just a big dummy *shrug*

I'll try to work through it just because I have it, maybe I will acquire a taste.

[Class A Drummer]

Future sounds by Dave Garibaldi. Its a dry book in my opinion, but if you really get to work with it, im sure it will help you out alot.




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[Beginer]

F'n book I bought the other day, first book I've ever purchased and I'm really f'n pissed. Some fun groove book but it doesn't teach ANYTHING. No multiple strikes per and it tells you which limb to use for what... I'm really mad, there aren't any interesting rhythms, either. It's all in 4/4! I'm really pissed... $24... you think the place will take it back? The guy recommended it to me... I'm just so mad...
Please don't say $24 isn't much money, that helps me none.


Anyone wanna recommend a not too difficult book, that has some semi complicated rhythms... just a low intermediate groove book? Thanks in advance.

I started learning like four months ago, so maybe i dont know much.. i dont even have a teacher.. but one night i couldnt sleep, so i started writing down some beats and i dont think theres something better in books than you can find on the net or invent yourself in this case..

sorry.. happy i cant spend money on such things..

[radiofriendlyunitshifter]

you think you were ripped off? i payed $3.50 for three cold slices of cheese between a cold hamburger bun yesterday at the national zoo.

(after waiting 10 minutes for them to make it)

anyway, did you return the book, or have you going through the lessons?

[Mr. Pasquini]

sorry.. happy i cant spend money on such things..

Don't try to make me feel insignificant, it's a waste of your breath. Literature is a method to learn, you can't think of everything, and there's no reason to overlook books in order to help you develop as a musician. I've played music for a long time, it takes a while to swallow your pride but you have to accept that you can learn from a lot of different people. It's closed minded to not try to learn from others.


you think you were ripped off? i payed $3.50 for three cold slices of cheese between a cold hamburger bun yesterday at the national zoo.

(after waiting 10 minutes for them to make it)

anyway, did you return the book, or have you going through the lessons?
I'm going through it, I've decided it's alright independence practice.

[brittc89]

I started learning like four months ago, so maybe i dont know much.. i dont even have a teacher.. but one night i couldnt sleep, so i started writing down some beats and i dont think theres something better in books than you can find on the net or invent yourself in this case..

sorry.. happy i cant spend money on such things..

Youll never advance like that, sorry, its just the truth.