My mystery Zidljian?

[LtCakes]

Hey, so I was examining an old cymbal that i got ages ago from someone's beginner set. Anyway upon close examination i noticed it said:


"some turkish writing
Avedis
Zidljian Co
Genuine Turkish Cymbals
Made in USA"

Its a 14in crash and thats the only inscription on the cymbal. Does that mean its just a shoddy beginner crash? Thanks for your help!

[Class A Drummer]

If you could possibly post a picture of it, im sure it will help with the identification :)

[IDDrummer]

No, it's not a beginner crash, it's an A Zildjian. Good stuff.

[LtCakes]

Hey, thanks for your help so far, I hope these pictures will help some more. I couldnt get a picture of the "Avedis Zildjian Genuine..." its so small and it wont show up with my crappy webcam.

[bontempi]

does it sound gong-ish with too long sustain ?

i had an avedis zildjian like that but paid it veeeery cheap a while back in a shop. it was a 2nd hand.

can't help you though

[badlydubbedsean]

Doesn't look like the bronzy finish of the planet zs or the zbt/zxts.

definately an a zildjian, my ride looks like that i think

[tamadrummer132]

that might be half a hi-hat. is it heavy?

[KCMcC]

Try to get an in focus picture of the whole thing

rest your camera on something and use the timer so your hand doesn't wiggle it.
Get a picture of
1. The top
2. The bottom
3. A head on view of the profile (like if you were looking at it from the edge
4. Zoomed in on the Avedis Zildjian & Co. Logo.

There are folks out there who can probably tell you alot about it if you do that.

EDIT:

Sorry, hadn't read the part about the webcam. Borrow a decent camera if you can.

[cjl71178]

It looks like an older "A" series Zildjian. Better pics would def. help though.

[LtCakes]

Hey. Thanks for the help everyone, here's some more pictures. Tell me if you need more. I tried to take a picture of the "Avedis Zildjian Co..." but even with this digital camera it wont show up, its so faint. I took a closer look at the cymbal and realized that the outer edge (outer 1" of the cymbal) sort of curves down a bit more steeply than the rest of the cymbal. You can see it in the overhead pictures. Is this typical? I kind of get the feeling this may be the bottom of a pair of hi-hats which would bum me out since I was told it was a crash. But hey since it was for free, i guess its alright. Thanks again for the help all.

[LtCakes]

doh.. okay here are the pictures

[fooleeze]

Kinda looks 60s or 70s to me, the hammering is a little unique, with that spiral-looking pattern. Were you able to get any close-ups (clear) of the stamp? Is there any sign of any ink logos?

[LtCakes]

Hey, there wasnt a sign of any remnants of ink. I couldnt get a close up of the engraving, it wont show up on my camera. You guys have any suggestions for how I could get a picture of that?

[fooleeze]

See if your camera has a 'macro' setting, usually depicted by a small flower symbol on the camera, used for up-close photos. Works well if you stay at least 10-12 inches away from the object.

[Rando]

The way the bottom edge is worn, I'd say it's a hi-hat half. (Like tamadrummer132 says.)

[hawk9290]

bears extreme resemblance to an old Zildjian A series hihat I use, so that probably your answer. Given the way the underside of the cymbal is worn, its a bottom hat Zildjian A series from quite some time ago.

[LtCakes]

Hey. Yeah when I took a close look at it i figured it could the bottom to a pair of hats. So would this be worth anything without the top half? Here are some pictures of the inscription.

[Skitch]

Yeah,

It appears to be a hi hat cymbal made in the late 1970s or early 1980s. There is no serial number so that eliminates it form being made in the last 10 years or so. The hammering looks like a New Beat Hi hat. What you could do is take it to a store which has a pair of New Beats and kind of compare it to those cymbals. You could do the same comparison with a 14" Thin Crash, but one of those may be difficult to find, unless you go to a Guitar Center (uuugh!).


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[mind_drummer]

Here something to answer everything about dating Zildjian

http://www.classicdrummer.com/archives/vdmarchives/GearArticles/ZildjianTimeline1.pdf

http://www.classicdrummer.com/archives/vdmarchives/GearArticles/DatingZildjianCymbals%20.pdf

[fooleeze]

I'm actually going with earlier 70s, but yeah. . . 70s. And he's right about it being half of a set of hats.

Half of a set of hats can sell for anywhere from $50 - $80 depending on the condition and weight. Lighter ones would be worth a little more in most cases (as they are a little harder to come by).

[thumper]

I think that it may be a (bottom) hihat cymbal, judging from the irregularity of the post hole . It's not quite keyholed, but it definately has some unusual wear, probably from bouncing around on a hihat stand. Hopefully there are no hairline cracks....