To rivet or not to rivet - THAT is the question!

[kenwardc]

Hi Folks

<Note to self: This is gonna sound so lame>
I have one or two numbers where (when I use my electronic kit) I use the Hi-Hat to give a sort-of "sizzling" sound - like a mushy hi-hat? With my new Pearl kit and using the Pearl eliminator hi-hat, I'm finding it a little difficult to keep the volume down when half-opening the hats to produce that same sound.

So... thinks - perhaps I will buy a rivet ride cymbal.... Is this the right thing to do or am I just jumping from the frying pan into the flames?

Any advice sincerely appreciated here.

Cheers
Chris

[tamadrummer132]

rivets in a ride will make it sizzle, but before you decide to go drill a couple holes into your brand new k custom ride,

get a piece of duct tape.

put like 5-6 dimes under it, and put it on your cymbal. This is a fake way to rivet, if you like it. go for it.

[murphinelli]

rivets in a ride will make it sizzle, but before you decide to go drill a couple holes into your brand new k custom ride,

get a piece of duct tape.

put like 5-6 dimes under it, and put it on your cymbal. This is a fake way to rivet, if you like it. go for it.

and you'd put duct tape on your k custom ride? :-(
i'd use some electrical tape, but not duct tape. removing duct tape residue is not fun.

you can also make a fake sizzle with ball chains. can get these at a hardware store. attach one or two chains to the top of the cymbal holder and extend them down almost the full length of the cymbal. this is a good temporary sizzle.

[tamadrummer132]

i didnt get any residue when i did it..

[kenwardc]

I like the idea of the ball chains. Nice one - I'll get some - thanx!

[The popes love child]

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/bobgatzenquicktimps13.mov
Watch the second tip about a 1/3rd the way into it, "Sizzle your cymbals without drilling holes."

[Steamer]

Just for the heck of it I slipped out to the local hardware store tonight after reading this thread and bought and made a single line ball chain set up to try with my new 22" K Dark Medium Ride.Works pretty nice. Adds a further enhanced 60's K element to the overall ride cymbal sound without drilling holes.

Thanks for the tip guys.

[Rickk]

Just put rivets on my Zildjian sweet ride a few weeks ago, and I love it, best thing I could have done, really easy to do also, the rivets were a few bucks I put 6 rivets in, but you need a sharp bit.
I did use the removable chain type rivets, but the sound is as different as night and day.

Hope this helps.

Rick

[Steamer]

Glad it worked out with full on rivets in your new Zildjian sweet ride Rick. Love the sound of rivet cymbals always have. Was looking for just a taste of sizzle with my 22" Zildjian K dark medium ride with the option too on certain gigs of having a real clean sound so the ball chain idea was just the ticket when that sound is desired and thanks again to those who brought it up on the forum. Like the abilty to be able to have a touch of sizzle or not to the ride sound in my case both for various live gigs and recording projects.

[jazzin']

and you'd put duct tape on your k custom ride? :-(
i'd use some electrical tape, but not duct tape. removing duct tape residue is not fun.

you can also make a fake sizzle with ball chains. can get these at a hardware store. attach one or two chains to the top of the cymbal holder and extend them down almost the full length of the cymbal. this is a good temporary sizzle.

The latter is the way to go if you want to check out a sizzle sound. You'll find it works as well as getting rivets put in. As Murph said, go to your hardware store and they have lengths of chain which you can buy for maybe a dollar at most for the length you need. Just get the small ball chain, wrap it 'round or in between two felt pads and you've got yourself a sizzle ride!

[jazzin']

I did use the removable chain type rivets, but the sound is as different as night and day.

Hope this helps.

Rick

Yes, the actual drilled rivets is more subtle and slightly smoother (3 to 6) but if you don't want to drill holes in your cymbal the chain does work very well and has a nice sound. Check it out.

[Steamer]

Like I said jazzin' I did and i'm sold on it. Pretty cheap too at 75 cents a foot and at a total expense of a whooping $1.50 for a couple of ft. I carefully measured and cut a single line from it for my 22" dark medium ride and made up a top loop and added a couple of connectors that would make it easy to slip off and on the top of the cymbal stand. No drilling of holes which I had no interest in doing and i'm getting a nice effect I can add or remove in a couple of seconds based on the musical situation.