weckls new tuning technique

[moe.ron]

i recently found a video with weckls new tuning technique and decided to try it. unfortunately i can't seem to get my drums to sound anywhere close to his. i assume its because he has a maple custom or absolute and i have a birch stage custom but i would think the idea would be the same. my question is do you think i don't quite have the knack for this tuning yet or is there that huge of a difference? mind you his tom sounded nice deep and round while mine sound either dead or higher pitched.

[Wavelength]

What is this new tuning technique you're talking about? Or are you referring to the age-old Youtube video clips from his "How to" DVD series?

[moe.ron]

the one where he gets the head just above the wrinkle point. i say new as in not his old mullet/recording custom days

[d.c.drummer]

it seems to me head type would be very important

[Casper "DrPowerStroke" Paludan]

the one where he gets the head just above the wrinkle point. i say new as in not his old mullet/recording custom days

Okay, if "above the wrinkle point" is the gist of it, you still need to consider
1) even tuning on all lugs. It is not enough to turn all lugs equally, you must listen to them and fine tune them all in concert.
2) the difference between bottom and top head. If your batter is fixed just above the wrinkle point, then you can play with the reso head until you get constructive interference.
3) Some people say you should listen to the shell before putting on heads and tune around that tone because the shell will itself provide tone. I pay much more attention to the first two points.

Hope this helps, DPS

[moe.ron]

yeah i evened them all out to my ears anyway but they still don't sound that good. maybe i just need to readjust my ears to listen alittle better

[Muckster]

Keep in mind that you are hearing his tom through a properly miked and mixed video for optimum sound.

There are just too many factors: heads, type of drum, room etc.. Just try to tune the head as evenly as you can until is sounds good to you. Drum tuning is not that complicated. Every drum has its own limitations.

[Wavelength]

Keep in mind that you are hearing his tom through a properly miked and mixed video for optimum sound.

Actually, in that particular video you're hearing the tom au naturelle -- of course it's not close miked for the tuning example.

[Muckster]

Actually, in that particular video you're hearing the tom au naturelle -- of course it's not close miked for the tuning example.

I didn't say the tom was close miked. The "finished" video is mixed for optimum sound.

[massaf]

I've heard that Weckl uses DrumDial, can anyone confirm this?

[Drum-Head]

i assume its because he has a maple custom or absolute and i have a birch stage custom.

Birch Stage Custom? Never heard or seen that at Yamaha. The only birch I am aware of is for the finishes of the now gone SC Nouveaus and SC Advantage. But to answer you question, there will be a big difference from what you hear on his videos and what you will obtain with you kit.

[moe.ron]

not all birch but its the original sc standard birch and flakata i think

[Drum-Head]

not all birch but its the original sc standard birch and flakata i think

It's only one outer ply of birch if you have a gloss finish - this does nothing for the sound, it's only so you get a nice finish.

[moe.ron]

matte finish i thought it had one outer ply and a few inner plies as well. anyway i can tune my steve jordan snare to sound great...do you think if i had a professional kit i'd be better at tuning? i can get the toms to sound good but i can never find a method i can always repeat to make sure i get the same sound all the time without experimenting for hours.

[Drum-Head]

The matte finishes have an outer ply of oak essence, not birch. But back to the real problem here. I know it's not easy, and that it does take patience and time, but just continue fiddling around with the tunning whilst following the Drum Tunning Bible (home.earthlink.net/~prof.sound/) method. Read this carefully.

[moe.ron]

yes indeed it takes a lot of patience, i just can't seem to find the sweet spot.