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ToPrAle
04-12-2007, 11:40 AM
Hi ! all!

I found this tune in my hd. i recorded it last year! it is Exuinox, i tryed to use a different approach in each part of this tune , as you 'll ear i'm playing in a "modern" way expecially in the fills

Let me know what you think!

Enjoy

Alessio

ToPrAle
04-16-2007, 12:33 PM
umm... ok i guess you didn't liket it! :(

drummersgroove
04-16-2007, 02:57 PM
That was great! Quite busy playing, but it was all musical and tasteful - so that's fine with me!! Your kit sounds stellar, with playing to match. Love it, great job.

Drummer Karl
04-16-2007, 04:06 PM
umm... ok i guess you didn't liket it! :(

What? Are you kidding? lol
That was absolutly great music. Yeah, feels busy, especially in the beginning but it is still tasteful and it never sounds too busy or so. And yes, I love the modern touch, the fills give this tune a bit more spice. On which books/schools are you working or did you work?

Good work man, by the way...what cymbals did you use?

Karl

ToPrAle
04-16-2007, 06:43 PM
What? Are you kidding? lol
That was absolutly great music. Yeah, feels busy, especially in the beginning but it is still tasteful and it never sounds too busy or so. And yes, I love the modern touch, the fills give this tune a bit more spice. On which books/schools are you working or did you work?

Good work man, by the way...what cymbals did you use?

Karl
Hi KArl!!

tnx for the comm.. hehe i used a sabian hhx evolution crash 16'' on my right a manhatan ride 20" on my right and my fierce ride 22" on my left! :D . now i'm mostly playing, i studied and read tons of books.. without finding "my book" now i'm woriking again on rudiments...its always a great thing to do ! i developed some exerceises that fit for me in a various areas of drumming as fills, polyrhithm, groove and improvisation, when i need something special for a gig i concentrate on that (you can't do all). just, yesterday i played with a funk band and i was like 3 mouth that i'm playing just jazz, i was a little afraid then i played acouple of grooves 2 or 3 days before the gig i also took a look to some pages from the David Garibaldi book and the Advanced funk studies just to check out if i was able again to play with "funk". i use to think about drumming as a personal area with "personal " ideas and method, a took little by little pieces of ideas from all the book and great drummers, i'm trying... it's just the beginning... In conclusion i beleive that, as all the great drummers develop their own sound with their own ideas, every other drummer should do the same after a while!

Thanks for the Good question Karl ! !

Ciao!

ToPrAle
04-16-2007, 06:46 PM
Hi KArl!!

tnx for the comm.. hehe i used a sabian hhx evolution crash 16'' on my right a manhatan ride 20" on my right and my fierce ride 22" on my left! :D . now i'm mostly playing, i studied and read tons of books.. without finding "my book" now i'm woriking again on rudiments...its always a great thing to do ! i developed some exerceises that fit for me in a various areas of drumming as fills, polyrhithm, groove and improvisation, when i need something special for a gig i concentrate on that (you can't do all). just, yesterday i played with a funk band and i was like 3 mouth that i'm playing just jazz, i was a little afraid then i played acouple of grooves 2 or 3 days before the gig i also took a look to some pages from the David Garibaldi book and the Advanced funk studies just to check out if i was able again to play with "funk". i use to think about drumming as a personal area with "personal " ideas and method, a took little by little pieces of ideas from all the book and great drummers, i'm trying... it's just the beginning... In conclusion i beleive that, as all the great drummers develop their own sound with their own ideas, every other drummer should do the same after a while!

Thanks for the Good question Karl ! !

Ciao!




i forgot.. HEhe


I'm studing with a great techer here in Milan, the 15th may i'll be in boston to attend the Berklee college of music! Awesome Place!!!

And what about you? r u studing in germany? where? what?



Ciao

Ale

gretsch223
04-16-2007, 07:11 PM
nice playing man! very sophisticated playing yet tasteful.

Drummer Karl
04-16-2007, 07:20 PM
Thanks for the response!! Congrats to your place at berklee...but haha, I still don`t know right about this place. Is Berklee a drummers college? A special school for drummers??
Don`t know exactly...



And what about you? r u studing in germany? where? what?


hehe, at the moment I`m working on Jack DeJohnette`s Comping book. I have to say that I am still on the first page. Why? Well, not because I am a lazy drummer =D
I like to build up methods how to develope sound, musicality...how to expand excercices, simply: What can I do with ONE excercice? The same with rudiments...and others.
I love to discover more things and learn more but I also like to work with what I have. There are thousands of methods, thousands of variations in different styles...playing it in different time sigs as well...as triplets, later as quints etc.

haha, that is cool...lol and I`m normally studying at a music school in a small town in the middle of Germany...but if I get my A-levels I`ll go to university, maybe to Hamburg or Cologne or so. And one I`m going to go to the USA. NYC, visiting some of you...hehe, and also going to Kansas City and knocking on Zack`s and Bobby Watson`s door. :-D

We`ll see...

thanks,

Karl

ToPrAle
04-16-2007, 07:26 PM
Thanks for the response!! Congrats to your place at berklee...but haha, I still don`t know right about this place. Is Berklee a drummers college? A special school for drummers??
Don`t know exactly...




hehe, at the moment I`m working on Jack DeJohnette`s Comping book. I have to say that I am still on the first page. Why? Well, not because I am a lazy drummer =D
I like to build up methods how to develope sound, musicality...how to expand excercices, simply: What can I do with ONE excercice? The same with rudiments...and others.
I love to discover more things and learn more but I also like to work with what I have. There are thousands of methods, thousands of variations in different styles...playing it in different time sigs as well...as triplets, later as quints etc.

haha, that is cool...lol and I`m normally studying at a music school in a small town in the middle of Germany...but if I get my A-levels I`ll go to university, maybe to Hamburg or Cologne or so. And one I`m going to go to the USA. NYC, visiting some of you...hehe, and also going to Kansas City and knocking on Zack`s and Bobby Watson`s door. :-D

We`ll see...

thanks,

Karl



yEAH MAn!! it's crazy!!! we have to pay attentio or our brain will blow!!! i saw the Dejonette Book !! but i have some question about.. damn!..now i have to go to the reharsal!!

Ok i'l post later!!! se ya Man!!!!

ps: go to hamburg!!!

:D

caprisun3484
04-17-2007, 05:33 AM
that was really impressive sound pretty elvin to be honest with you

ToPrAle
04-17-2007, 01:16 PM
that was really impressive sound pretty elvin to be honest with you


tnx ! is it sound pretty elvin?! really? Why? for the ride cymbal?

:D

Drummer Karl
04-17-2007, 10:48 PM
yEAH MAn!! it's crazy!!! we have to pay attentio or our brain will blow!!! i saw the Dejonette Book !! but i have some question about.. damn!..now i have to go to the reharsal!!

Ok i'l post later!!! se ya Man!!!!

ps: go to hamburg!!!

:D

hahaha...yeah, it is indeed. =)
Well, today my teacher and I just worked out some more variations...out of JUST one excercice!! I mean, if you look on those excercices: They are just triplets. Nothing more. Not Jazz triplets....normal triplet excercices. We also tried them in 16th notes and he showed it in different styles. Oh man, we can do so much with it...we just have to turn on our brain. lol

It is great...and I`ve got so many ideas...oh and yes, it was my plan to go to Hamburg. :-)

PS: what was your question?

Karl

Sirwill
04-17-2007, 11:29 PM
Very nice job. I did not think it was that busy. It gave the tune some new flavor. And I enjoyed its taste.

caprisun3484
04-18-2007, 03:27 AM
tnx ! is it sound pretty elvin?! really? Why? for the ride cymbal?

:D

no just like the patterns are like his and also there's a Coltrane verison of this song

ToPrAle
04-18-2007, 04:07 PM
hahaha...yeah, it is indeed. =)
Well, today my teacher and I just worked out some more variations...out of JUST one excercice!! I mean, if you look on those excercices: They are just triplets. Nothing more. Not Jazz triplets....normal triplet excercices. We also tried them in 16th notes and he showed it in different styles. Oh man, we can do so much with it...we just have to turn on our brain. lol

It is great...and I`ve got so many ideas...oh and yes, it was my plan to go to Hamburg. :-)

PS: what was your question?

Karl


Yes i worked in different ways the jim chapin book! firt time all straight no swing eights note straight. then again with swing feel, the 3d time with the cymbal doubling the time and the 4th with the lesft at double time ... it's crazy !! check this out i'll change one frase into another !!! :D
my questinion ok.. i have his book and i read the firsts pages, i did it a while ago... so i remember that he uses numbers near the triplet figures... what does it mean ?! is it the number that build i frase for example RRLLR it would be a 5?

Tnx!
Ciao!!!

ToPrAle
04-18-2007, 04:08 PM
Very nice job. I did not think it was that busy. It gave the tune some new flavor. And I enjoyed its taste.


Thank you for the comment!! :D

ToPrAle
04-18-2007, 04:09 PM
no just like the patterns are like his and also there's a Coltrane verison of this song


YEs ! it's supposed to be a coltrane version! :D is'n it a colrane tune? is it?

caprisun3484
04-19-2007, 05:30 AM
YEs ! it's supposed to be a coltrane version! :D is'n it a colrane tune? is it?

yea well i thought like someone else might have played this song and i like didn't know about it or something, just wanted to be safe