Technique in odd time signatures,,

[AjminSko]

So I had an epiphany the other day.
Seeing as I could use a bit of "fresh air" in my technique routine and really REALLY could use a bit of practice when it comes to odd time signatures I thought why not try a little combination....
truly a revolutionary thought, huh....
So I´m wondering if the good people on this board could give me a hint or a point in the right direction as to where I could find exercises, routines etc that cover paradiddles, single strokes and various sorts of technique exercises in odd time signatures?

Thanks

[jonescrusher]

Try 'Rhythm and Meter Patterns' by Gary Chaffee and 'Odd Time Reading Text' by Louis Bellson.

[AjminSko]

Thanks for the tip.
About the chaffee book though, that´s not so much a "rudimental or sticking book" isn´t that more focused on odd meters and reading?

[Babui]

Well isn't that what you were essential asking for? Technique shouldn't change, just your timing. It's not like you have to bounce your stick differently. If anything, look up those books jonescrusher suggested and apply them in different stickings and rudimental contexts that fit your needs.

[AjminSko]

Yeah but an exercise that challenges my "rudimental skills" and speed as well as odd time understanding.
Hmm maybe I´m not all that good at explaining..

[jonescrusher]

Well, as long as you already know the sticking patterns of the rudiments themselves, you can easily focus a given routine or page of reading in the book to whatever rudiment you wish to work on - for example, you might take a mixed meter page of reading and work through it alternating between paradiddles and doubles, on snare around the kit whatever.
It's an excellent and very challenging book, and does sound like what you're after.

[dea]

The Vic Firth site has a nice condensed article on odd time signatures. Sometimes, a concise article is all one needs. However, you'll need to make this decision yourself. Go to their site and search the educational section. I read the article and its very good.

[AjminSko]

Thanks alot for the tips and help.
I really appreciate it.
If you got any more suggestions or advice I´m all ears.

Thanks again
Cheers

[thebrza]

I started listening to parts in songs that I wanted to learn from. Break it down in some logical form (whatever works for you... sometimes I'll come up with a simplified version of a beat, and once I get the beat down, I'll add more to it and expand on it, rather than go from 0 to 100, I go in several steps)

I also realized that I was never tackling a song in its structural form... I realized that Jimmy Chamberlain (Smashing Pumpkins) would play the same or similar part in all the choruses and all the verses in a particular song, and then I realized other good drummers were doing this too. What I'm getting at is there wasn't this worry of trying to be too fancy, or mix up what you're playing to maximize how interesting it is. If you try too hard, it shows. Playing a simple part can be just as effective as ripping up your double kick with your arms flailing.

When I thought about how I, and some other drummers, often approached 4/4 and 3/4 stuff, it was always in a very logical mannger ("4/4 time. Okay, kick, snare, kick snare. Accent in the typical places"). I've been learning to think outside the box, and mix in playing with the guitars or actually complementing them, instead.