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finnhiggins
03-30-2007, 01:22 AM
BIG POST AHEAD WARNING!

This started out as a reply to the "Matrix" thread about Thomas Lang's concept on his new DVD. I think it's a badly-designed exercise, and I explained why over in that thread a little. But rather than just bashing, I think I should make this a bit more general and talk about exercise design: Why you should be doing it, and some things that I think objectively make practice exercises good or bad.

First up, what do I mean by exercise design: I mean literally sitting down and writing exercises out for yourself that you're going to practice. Why do it? There are lots of drum books on the market, after all.

My suggestion is that every great drummer does their own exercise design. That's why they're able to put their own books and teaching method DVDs out on the market: They just take the stuff they design for themselves and write it up tidily to sell. Now, that doesn't mean you shouldn't buy DVDs or books: it is great to see how other people have designed their exercises and take inspiration from that to do your own. But I don't think it's healthy to just practice religiously out of other people's books.

For my purposes I separate drum books into three types:

1) Personal books. This would be something like Bill Bruford's book, David Garibaldi's book, things like "West African Rhythms for Drumset", many of the marching/snare solo books etc etc. These are books that document one drummer's personal journey as a player and write up a lot of the stuff they've developed for themselves musically. Some are more about transcriptions - like Bruford or Garibaldi - some are about stylistic material like the Royal Hartigan african rhythms book.

2) Technical books. These would be things like Stick Control, Accents & Rebounds, Master Studies, Gary Chaffee's "Patterns" series or Gavin Harrison's two books on rhythm. These aren't so much about music as they are about developing facility, and for the most part they're pretty much definitive works - once a particular book does a certain aspect of technique/facility stuff right then it is pretty rare for another book to come along that does the same thing better. We're still using Stick Control, after all.

3) Material books. I'd tend to see these as being things like The New Breed or Syncopation which give you reading material that can be used to design your own exercises, although there are plenty of existing interpretations that can be used with either.

Now, of those books I tend to think that everybody should have the key books from #2 and #3. You need to go through Stick Control to get some control of the sticks. You need to have Syncopation handy so that you can use it as a tool in designing your own exercises. But the #1 books are, for me, totally optional and entirely up to your taste. If you get a book of that description and don't really think the results are hip then ignore it. My suggestion is that we should ALL be writing our own personal book, and that other people's books are just there for you to take inspiration from.

So what makes a good exercise? I reckon a good exercise is something that meets the following goals:

1) It works on something that you are currently unable to do. If you're just playing stuff that you can play easily then it's playing, not practice. Get gigs if you want to do this, they'll make you focus harder because there's an audience watching.

2) When played correctly it sounds musical to your ears. What you practice will come out in your playing, and if your exercises sound unmusical to you then you'll develop playing habits that you dislike and which make you unhappy.

3) It can be directly applied to a style of music that you're enthusiastic about listening to and playing. Otherwise... why bother?

If there are exercises written by other people that fit those criteria then by all means practice them. But if you want to sound like you, odds are you're going to need to start writing your own.

Now, I just want to get back to the Lang stuff for a minute. Lang's "Matrix" system is a particular class of exercise that's very common in music education: it's a combinations exercise. You take a certain number of things that can be combined, and you learn all the mathematical permutations. It's a very useful way of studying, because it gives you a defined workload and feeling of progress, and once you get good at studying permutations exercises they're ultimately quite quick to work through. Much quicker than learning thousands of unrelated transcriptions would be.

But Lang's stuff is also a sub-class of these exercises: it's a technically-derived "combine everything" exercise with no musical selection of combinations involved. You just take all the stickings and combine them with all the other ones, in lots of different note groupings.

I've seen a few of these kinds of systems in the past, and I do understand why people find these systems attractive. The idea of "learning to do everything" rather than just learning some stuff out of a book that somebody else thought was hip is rather appealing. But comparing the two approaches they're both rather lacking in important ways:

Option 1: Learn from books of pre-existing musical material, like "West African Rhythms for Drumset" or John Riley's jazz books.
Advantages: Material you're studying is actually musically structured and has an existing musical purpose. You know the material is all going to be of reasonably good value given the time put in.
Disadvantages: It's not your own material. If you go right through the book then you're only ever going to be a second-rate copy of whoever wrote the book for you, because it requires no original thought.

Option 2: Learn everything, create permutation-based systems for combining every pattern you can think of.
Advantages: You'll learn a lot of co-ordination and cover a lot of ground in detail, and you're not studying something that is some other guy's idea of musical playing so you're unlikely to come out a clone of another player in musical terms.
Disadvantages: You're not studying something that is anybody's idea of musical playing, instead cutting off your nose to spite your own face by practicing thousands of hours of material that not even YOU think sounds any good - you just think you have to do it because it's "part of the system".

So I'd suggest that the best approach is one that combines the advantages of both systems: You need to be practicing material that you believe is musically valid, yet which is not entirely something that somebody else has written for you. You can also use the powerful training benefits of combinations practice by creating exercises that combine patterns in a way that you find musical.

The difficulty with this third approach is that it actually requires thinking, opinions and a lot of consideration of the material you play. Effectively you have to write your own drum book and then be the first person to learn it all, which is a lot more work than just practicing. Practicing is just learning - duplication. Exercise design is where you get to be original and creative, or create facility to be spontaneously creative later when you're playing freely with the material you're studying.

There's no reason that this kind of practice can't lead to Lang-like technical results, too - it just requires Lang-like amounts of practice time to go with it...

I think a good template of all this is the system that Horatio Hernandez put together for himself and outlines in "Conversations in Clave" - which is a damnably hard book, if you ask me. That book blends a bit of both - it uses certain stylistic requirements (clave patterns) and then trains co-ordination by running rhythmic permutations against that. Sure, it's not going to cover every combination of hands and feet - but it will teach you enough permutations to play freely against a clave, while simultaneously helping you understand the rhythmic feel of resolving to different positions in the bar against the clave pattern.

Another good example would be the systems that Alan Dawson used to teach from the Ted Reed "Syncopation" book. Each system has a specific musical concept or sound, but it teaches you to play freely inside changing rhythms using that concept. It has musical thought put into constructing the systems, yet can be applied to lots of technical permutations.

I'm not suggesting that everybody go away and learn Conversations In Clave or read up on Dawson's methods, but just that they're a good template for a co-ordination book that we could all be writing for ourselves. I'm working on some stuff right now (attached) which is actually all based on technical/movement patterns and ostinato permutations - but I've tried to keep it all fairly anchored to a specific musical purpose that is interesting to me at the moment.

To explain, I was trying to work on a few things:

1) I wanted to develop more freedom in the particular feel dictated by the 1-bar-clave bass drum pattern shown on the ostinato sheet. It's a really common feel that shows up in latin styles and also heavily in Balkan marching music. I've been listening to a fair bit of balkan brass music lately, particularly stuff like Boban Markovic (get the album "Hani Rumba" if you can, it's really cool) and was really digging the feels they manage to build with just snare and bass drum. Really loose but really sick and intricate - it's worth checking out.

2) I've got some technical problems that need a bit of dedicated study of certain stroke combinations - sometimes when I have up strokes and down strokes with one hand falling in between full strokes in the other it causes some issues with the full strokes. I settled on a F-D-T-U-D-T-U-F (full-down-tap-up-down-tap-up-full) sequence as the best one to isolate the particular technical problem I was having, particularly when it is played with both hands in different displacements.

3) I want to keep developing my dynamic control in the bass drum, particularly while playing changing accents over it with the hands so I'm accenting in three limbs in a fairly independent kind of way.

So I decided I was going to build all of that into some material that I could use to work on all that stuff. Initially since it's too challenging I could split it up into individual exercises for each of the above points, but as I improve at each they unify into single exercises that can be practiced all at once.

What I ended up doing was writing a simple computer program (yeah, I'm a geek..) that took all the possible displacements of the FDTUDTUF stroke sequence in each hand and combined them every possible way in the left and right hand, played as a single-stroke roll. This gave me a whole pile of rhythms (outlining the accents), and since I'd made the program output to Lilypond .ly file format I could generate a MIDI file of those rhythms being played, as well as notation of them.

In a Lang-like system I'd just learn all of these over my ostinatos. But if you ask me that's a waste of time, because most of them sound crap.

So to bring some musical judgment into the exercise, I took the MIDI file and loaded it into Cakewalk Sonar. I put the MIDI file of rhythmic combinations on one track, then made another track which just contained a loop of my bass drum ostinato. After that I spent about an hour listening through all the one-bar groove phrases that came out of that and noting down which ones I thought sounded pretty hip. After going through the remainder a few times I settled on sixteen bars worth of stuff that I quite liked, and structured it roughly into the attached melody sheet.

So what I now have is a 16-bar exercise, any one bar of which requires the exact same series of strokes in each hand to play correctly. So I can use any bar of that as a dynamics and stroke technique exercise, helping me co-ordinate up and down strokes with one hand against full strokes in the other in a cleaner manner. That lets me sit down with a mirror and this material and be a technique geek.

Then once I've got comfortable playing any one bar of this exercise I can sit down and learn to play either of the ostinatos against it. They're just two of the eight possible accenting permutations (2^3), but they're easy ones and they each have a particular feel.

So by working on this stuff I develop dynamic technique in the hands and with the bass drum, and I improve my vocabulary in a particular style of playing in a way that I find musically sound. Obviously this kind of technique-derived rhythmic material only has a fairly limited set of possibilities musically, so I combine it with typical traditional snare drum patterns transcribed from recordings and use both to improvise over a particular ostinato.

I've been doing this for a week or two now, and I can feel my co-ordination and groove in this particular type of playing improving dramatically, plus it's helping sort out some nagging issues in my hand technique.

The way I've put the exercises together is very technology-centric, but basically it touches all the points I think that home-grown exercises should:

1) Is it challenging to you, and working on specific problems in your playing?
2) Is it musically valid, have you listened to the results objectively (without considering how difficult different patterns are) and decided whether they're something you like?
3) Can it be directly applied to playing music that you're enthusiastic about?

Permutations are a great way of dealing with #1, but to deal with #2 and #3 you also need to include some consideration of actual musical material and gather understanding of how different styles work. That comes from listening and transcription.

So my suggestions for exercise design to help you be more creative and interesting in the music you want to play:

1) Make them about a specific concept you find exciting. This could be a new idea of your own, or a concept you hear played on a recording that you want to expand on. Learn to read if you can't, and transcribe music that you like. You'll start seeing patterns, and these patterns will lead to conceptual ideas.

2) Read up, and use existing exercise systems as your templates for the exercises you design. Learn about Ted Reed/Syncopation based exercises. Learn about Gary Chaffee and his fatback combination exercises. Check out "The New Breed", check out Conversations In Clave etc. These systems actually work, and lots of drummers have used them - so if you can modify this approach to use in your own practice then it'll probably work efficiently too.

3) Edit. If you use a combination-based system make sure that all the combinations you're working on are actually musically interesting to you, and can be used in a way that you enjoy. Don't just blindly play through a billion combinations because they're there.

4) Apply. Try to make sure that the exercises you design are sufficiently grooving that you can actually play them over records and try to make them feel right, because it's the stuff beyond the notes that make something feel right stylistically as much as it is the patterns themselves.

5) Record the results. Check back in six months against the stuff you wrote up, and make notes on what worked and what didn't. What made it into your playing that you think is hip, what bad habits you think the exercise caused. Then keep all this in mind when you design future exercises.

komodo
03-30-2007, 01:39 AM
Took me a while to read but thanks very much! An can i just take this opportunity to also congratulate you on your educational website which i just looked at,good work *thumbs up*

Jeff Almeyda
03-30-2007, 02:42 AM
Ummm... What he said.

Seriously, I would have to agree with just about everything that my man Finn wrote here.

For me it boils down to two essential points:

Is the concept something that is musically appropriate to what I am trying to achieve?
Straight-ahead jazz guys shouldn't be wasting their time with double kick work, for example.

Does it address technical issues in a manner that promotes musicality? Can I actually play something musical or at least good-sounding while learning the technical component of the exercise?

One must also realize that technical exercises are just that, they are performed in order to learn/develop certain motions which are then applied in a musical setting. There are two distinct points of view on this: Guys like Bob Moses call technical practice such as doing paradiddles for an hour unmusical while guys like Joe Morello say that it's just practice and facility development and it really helps one to be able to express oneself when the time comes.

In the end, we all forge our own path and how we sound is a result of all of those choices we made over time. Some people will love us and some won't. We must have the conviction in our musical concept which allows us to forge our path with confidence.

LinearDrummer
03-30-2007, 03:08 AM
Man what a great post....Long :-) but very informative...

I don't have any desire to do all that foot stuff but I really want complete independence against my latin ostinatos....the samba came pretty fast but some others like the baiao and I think other is called tumbao have been a struggle....

So the matrix system approach with the hands against them peaked my interest....
I just don't have time to practice every permutation nor do I have the patience.....

BIG POST AHEAD WARNING!

What I ended up doing was writing a simple computer program (yeah, I'm a geek..) that took all the possible displacements of the FDTUDTUF stroke sequence in each hand and combined them every possible way in the left and right hand, played as a single-stroke roll. This gave me a whole pile of rhythms (outlining the accents), and since I'd made the program output to Lilypond .ly file format I could generate a MIDI file of those rhythms being played, as well as notation of them.

In a Lang-like system I'd just learn all of these over my ostinatos. But if you ask me that's a waste of time, because most of them sound crap.

So to bring some musical judgment into the exercise, I took the MIDI file and loaded it into Cakewalk Sonar. I put the MIDI file of rhythmic combinations on one track, then made another track which just contained a loop of my bass drum ostinato. After that I spent about an hour listening through all the one-bar groove phrases that came out of that and noting down which ones I thought sounded pretty hip. After going through the remainder a few times I settled on sixteen bars worth of stuff that I quite liked, and structured it roughly into the attached melody sheet.




This sounds VERY interesting...I want to learn more about this type of system and what software I need.....
.

jazzin'
03-30-2007, 07:00 AM
Very cool post Finn. I've been moving along this area for a while now. Taking old exercises given to me, whether by my teacher or by self directed book study and changing them to suit my pleasure. I think a lot of these came about from a small variation or something that was played which I thought 'Wow, that sounded great', and tried to develop it.

I was looking through the back pages of this forum a while ago and came upon a post of yours coincidently which had a huge amount of triplet combinations (do you remember that?). I had been writing out a lot of these at the time and I took all of those and have been working those into snare, bass, ride linear patterns along with stuff from Garibaldi which I changed from 16th funk into swing phrases. It's a lot of work but some truly amazing stuff has come of it, which is really a long study in itself. So, yes, I had been meaning to say thanks for those combo's for a while. Thanks.

I've also been moving away from the Joe Morello approach of playing straight rudiments and technique for long periods to the Bob Moses idea of being very selective about what I'm practicing and really focusing only on what I would use whilst playing. It's a great eye opener to do this and I would suggest it to everyone. It will rid you of a lot of extraneous material which can not only overwhelm you but bog you down in pointless fear based practice.

Phew, sorry for rant, again brilliant post Finn. Food for thought.

NUTHA JASON
03-30-2007, 11:03 AM
excellent post. there is so much material out there and each drummer you meet swears by this book or that DVD or that system. its useful to do as finn says and sort what you own into the three groups and then really evaluate where you want to go.

i saw a dog running in a park once with its owner. the boss was throwing a ball and the dog retreiving it. as they moved along however, they passed a family playing cricket and the dog wanted to get involved there, then there was a man walking a bitch and of course the dog let the ball roll to a stop while he investigated that out. Then there was an interesting smelling tree and then a butterfly. He even chased his own tail for a bit.

sometimes we drummers are like that dog.

i beleive it is the choice and amount of dedication to the choice of material that decides two things:

- whether we will be successfull at drumming at all. a jack of all trades and master of non so to speak. a dog who did not do much ball work.

- what drumming personality we will develop. intelligent choices that are resonably adhered to will give us facility and character as a drummer. if we spend long hours on syncopation then syncoptation will become natural for us and our playing will reflect that. if we study latin rhythms enough we are more likely to play in lating groups or come up with original latin fusions.

combine these two things and you get every shade of grey from joe bloggs the weekend warrior drummer with very basic skill and some one like dave weckl

j

Drums558
03-30-2007, 09:15 PM
WOW!!!
This thread is a example of why I come to this forum. Every once and a while there is a gem thread like this one.
Finn, your abilty to convey your thoughts on the internet is incredable. You are one VERY talented guy!!!!

On topic....
I have always found myself creating exercises when I practice, this was mostly due to a lack of focus and I would rarely develope my little creations fully. For a small period of time I started writing them down, but my lack of disipline hindered my developement.
The two things i've gained through the aging process is patience and disipline. I still create exercises that focus on problems i'm having with technique, but because i don't write them down they fade out of my practice routine after about three or four days.
Thanks for reminding me about that simple tool of pencil and paper. (Lilly pond and other software tools are still over my head)

Mike

bdub
03-30-2007, 10:27 PM
Great Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Drum-Head
03-30-2007, 11:06 PM
I wish Finn was my drum instructor... Your ways of explaining are very clear, easy to understand and motivating.

k3ng
03-31-2007, 08:46 PM
I think this should be stickied or something. Excellent stuff Finn. It's these kind of posts that make drummerworld's forums so rich with information.

DrumProgressive
04-02-2007, 12:07 AM
Just reading this topic truly expresses your devotion towards drumming. Finn, you amazed us once again. Thanks

Mediocrefunkybeat
04-02-2007, 01:53 AM
So when's the next plane to Wellington, Finn?

Christ, threads like this make me want to really learn to play the drums, rather than just play them.

finnhiggins
04-02-2007, 11:31 AM
So when's the next plane to Wellington, Finn?

Christ, threads like this make me want to really learn to play the drums, rather than just play them.

Believe me, you don't want to be on the next plane to Wellington. There's not much in the way of entertainment going here, other than going down by the end of the runway on a windy day and watching the pilots trying to avoid putting the wingtips in the sea...

That aside, thanks everybody for the compliments. The main thing that all the "learning to play" stuff I've done has given me is a realisation that it's really all no mystery. You just figure out what you want to do, pull it apart until you understand it and then put in some time every day trying to do bite-sized chunks of it. Do that and you'll get where you want to be. Do more and you'll get there faster.

That's not to say that teachers aren't useful: they can give you huge piles of tools that will help with doing all this stuff quicker. They'll teach you techniques that are much easier to understand with a living human being you can ask questions of, and who will give suggestions based on how you're responding to their answers. They'll teach you to read and transcribe, which is an essential skill if you want to start pulling apart the things you listen to. And they'll give you motivation and encouragement that you're actually picking things up at an acceptable rate - it's easy to give in because it doesn't feel from your perspective like you're making progress, even when you are on an objective measure.

But beyond that it really is just a question of deciding what it is you think is cool and working on it. In all honesty I find the whole issue of dealing with musicians considerably more difficult than learning to play. No paradiddle ever reversed into my car after a rehearsal...

gusty
04-02-2007, 11:57 AM
No paradiddle ever reversed into my car after a rehearsal...

haha
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Wavelength
04-02-2007, 01:07 PM
No paradiddle ever reversed into my car after a rehearsal...

Ruff luck... That would really be a drag, wouldn't it.

SickRick
04-02-2007, 01:56 PM
No paradiddle ever reversed into my car after a rehearsal...


It happened to me man.... it happened to me. That little sucker. Sits still like a statue, next thing you know he vomits all over my seat. I had played him over a tumbao ostinato first and over a samba ostinato second and he couldn't take the combination. At least that's what he told me later.

If you ask me, that son of a bitch just had eight beer and three tequila too many.

Now I only take the Pataflafla into my car - he just seems so much more steady.

jazzin'
04-02-2007, 04:28 PM
Ruff luck... That would really be a drag, wouldn't it.

Oh dear.....;)




hehehe

gusty
04-04-2007, 09:04 AM
good job to finn, wavelength and rick for the funny posts

mind_drummer
04-04-2007, 09:26 AM
Interesting thread Finn but I cant open you PDF file.

djp132
04-04-2007, 06:43 PM
Wonderful article Finn. In more ways than one for me. I'm not exaggerating when I say I was momentarily speechless after reading it (in a good way)!

I was going to make a video on this subject, but you went and covered more material in more relevant detail, and not only that, but made it immediately applicable.

I just learned two lessons: the one you wrote about, and how to make MY presentations that much more effective.

Thank you bro.

** bows respectfully at your wisdom **

Derrick

finnhiggins
04-04-2007, 10:47 PM
Derrick man, you don't have anything to learn from me. Your videos kick my arse, as does your hand technique... Plus my girlfriend thinks you're hilarious!

p.s: Hands off.