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petgeh
03-24-2007, 07:40 PM
I play a lot of punk stuff and most punk drummers crash down on the ride. If i crash down on the ride, my hand always gets tired. Is it a technique problem and are there some exercises i can do?

KLittle123
03-24-2007, 07:55 PM
Punk drumming demands alot. Are you like super tight. Even if you're playing fast and hard you should be loose and pretty relaxed.

Styx
03-26-2007, 09:32 AM
What type of ride are you using? If it's anything like my Zildjian Z Custom you're going to find it difficult to crash without putting in a bit of effort and in a punk song I'd imagine that little adds up to alot. I'd suggest looking at purchasing a good crash\ride cymbal.Fantastic sound with less effort and no carpel tunnel syndrome.

Regards

Styx

h3r3tic
03-26-2007, 04:44 PM
What type of ride are you using? If it's anything like my Zildjian Z Custom you're going to find it difficult to crash without putting in a bit of effort and in a punk song I'd imagine that little adds up to alot. I'd suggest looking at purchasing a good crash\ride cymbal.Fantastic sound with less effort and no carpel tunnel syndrome.

Regards

Styx

Or he could buy a thin ride too.

Mr. Pasquini
03-26-2007, 04:46 PM
I would suggest a dream ride, but they may be too washy for punk...

sloppyn9ne
03-26-2007, 05:43 PM
I play a lot of punk stuff and most punk drummers crash down on the ride. If i crash down on the ride, my hand always gets tired. Is it a technique problem and are there some exercises i can do?

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wy yung
03-27-2007, 05:12 AM
I find these questions virtually impossible to answer. There is nothing I can say to advise you without seeing you in action. I will say this: If playing is causing you pain, there is something drastically wrong with your technique. I don't care what style you play. It should not cause physical damage.

My advice is that you seek out a fully qualified drum teacher/player. Let him see what you are doing and offer alternatives.

NUTHA JASON
03-27-2007, 10:06 AM
i play a lot of punk at gigs. i use my ride as a crash sometimes i admit. i also rideon my crashes. i find the punk sound demands riding on the crashes and not literally crashing the ride in 8ths. when i do play my ride heavily i almost let go of the stick as i strike the collar of the stick across the bow or even the edge of the ride to get maxumum sound. in this instance i use my wrist for the motion and the last three fingers (pinky, ring and index) to hold the stick in the back of my hnad. my pointer and thumb aren't even touching the stick just hovering a millimeter off it. this is the least tiring.

but the best advice i can give is to ride on a crash for a punk part.

j

petgeh
03-27-2007, 11:55 AM
Maybe the problem is my ride, becaus ei use a zildijan zxz rock ride. I think it's the heaviest zildijan ride.
My ride is pretty high and i hit it with the edge of the stick.
Thanks for the help!

wy yung
03-28-2007, 06:39 AM
Maybe the problem is my ride, becaus ei use a zildijan zxz rock ride. I think it's the heaviest zildijan ride.
My ride is pretty high and i hit it with the edge of the stick.
Thanks for the help!

Not saying this is your case, however:

I feel it is often easier for us to place blame on something external. i.e. "It is not me! It's my ride!" then it is to cope with our own faults. I personally feel that the cymbal should never make a difference. Unless it is sitting on a concrete slab and unmoveable. I too, have played very hard. It all comes down to relaxation and correct release in technique. As well as drumming I spent years studying martial arts weaponry. I never met a good swordsman who developed pain in his wrists. And a steel sword is far harder and heavier to weild than a miniscule little drumstick. Especially a long handled broadsword!

Anyway. Good luck.