Trick Bass Drum Pedal

[medeskisoul]

Does anyone else have a Trick bass drum pedal out there? If so, is anyone experiencing problems with the clamping system not holding the pedal securely to the bass drum hoop?

My last ditch effort, before sending it back, is to use industrial grade hook and loop Velcro on the base plate to help it "lock into" the carpet. Does anyone have any suggestions to aleviate this problem.

[don't get me wrong it is an amazingly efficient pedal. I just wish I could get it to stay in one place.]

note: also have Taye spurs on my kit and they seem kind of "meak". Didn't know if this had an effect on the pedal slippage.

[Scotty C]

Thats crazy, I have been contemplating a set of the Trick double pedals. They seem super smooth...pricey though....But I have wondered about the clamp system. let me know if you get it figured out....I may just got the route of DW 9000's. I need the clamping portion of the pedal to be solid as a rock! Hope it all works out!

[bermuda]

Seems like there's a few threads on this already (do a search) but I'll chime in again - I have and endorse the Trick pedals, and I absolutely love them!

I know the clamp looks like it shouldn't hold... but it does. If you want to drag the kick around by the pedal, maybe it's not for you, but it does stay put.

Bermuda

[gmrakich]

Had that problem. Glued a small piece of rubber to my bass hoop and that solved the issue. I had a ton of the little rubber dealies that used to attach to kick hoops for that reason. Drm makers stopped putting those on for some reason.

Hey Bermuda, you still use the stock beater.? I went to a Danmar maple long shaft and it feels great.

[medeskisoul]

I do LOVE the Trick pedal SO much! I got to thinking and I did place some velcro on the bottom, but it wasn't the big hook kind. So, the first couple dates the pedal was amazing and stayed put no matter what [you actually have to play less to get the same effect of a "regular" pedal] Anyway, back to the story. I started moving things around a bit and THEN the pedal started dancing all over [I play with my foot slightly to the left of the board to avoid the beater hitting my foot, thus sometimes pushing the pedal to the side (to the right)]

SO... I think the large hook Velcro will do the Trick. Axis has large hook Velcro on theirs and you can get a hernia from pulling them up. I DON'T want to get rid fo this pedal. Threw the Iron Cobra on when the Trick was slipping and it was a world of difference. I felt like I had to stomp the pedal to get it to react like the Trick.

Going to the store today to get some large hook Velcro. I'll let you all know how it works. Thanks for the responses!

[Legacyrik]

Seems like there's a few threads on this already (do a search) but I'll chime in again - I have and endorse the Trick pedals, and I absolutely love them!

I know the clamp looks like it shouldn't hold... but it does. If you want to drag the kick around by the pedal, maybe it's not for you, but it does stay put.

Bermuda

So there you have it, you are lying..... ;)

[n2xlr8n]

I've not seen a close up of the Trick clamping system, but you might consider this:

On many BD pedals, I've found that the "heel" end of the floor plate will stick up. What I do to alleviate (not remedy) this is to adjust the front BD feet. I like my BD to be at least 1/4" off the floor, but the height must approximately match front to rear. Try this, and see if your clamping system holds better.....or you could just add velcro.

I agree with medeskisoul; the velcro on my DW9000 use to make me worry about breaking the maple hoop if I remove the pedal while it's attached to the drum, so I unfasten it first these days.

SRJ

[sticksnstonesrus]

Surprised I am on the good reactions to the Trick DP (PRO1-V, I'm assuming). I tried this one out during the shopping phase and felt like it was sloppy and had a lazy return. Wound it up tight and still couldn't get half the reaction as the Axis. Looks great, well-built; just didn't seem to play as I thought it would based on it's (1) feel, (2) price, and (3) advertising pitch (trickdrums.com).

Couldn't say I even got close to the hoop attachment, but it seems like the spring loaded system just wouldn't hold up for heavier feet....especially those that don't foot the pedalboards perfectly in line. Yes, the Axis does have the velcro patches which hold unbelievably well but I'll take the back breaking peel-maneuver to remove it from the stage-carpet over trying to deal with a pedal that moves during the show...every day, twice, and on Sunday.

IF you are a compatible drummer with the PRO1-V, than finding a way to isolate the heel from moving could be just a velcro sticky strip (or more) on the base. I don't see why that wouldn't work.

[bermuda]

Hey Bermuda, you still use the stock beater.? I went to a Danmar maple long shaft and it feels great.

I don't really like the feel of their beater, not quite enough oomph, and I don't know if adding a weight ring helps... I try not to use those.

I like the regular DW beater, the regaular Ludwig plastic & felt beater, and the Purseound Speedball is quite nice. Good footprint, nice oomph, although I did remove the weight.

Bermuda

[medeskisoul]

Surprised I am on the good reactions to the Trick DP (PRO1-V, I'm assuming). I tried this one out during the shopping phase and felt like it was sloppy and had a lazy return. Wound it up tight and still couldn't get half the reaction as the Axis.

They make a replacement spring for the Tricks that adds some Uph! That is what I use and the return is great. Plus I feel like it is easier to operate with less tension.

The only thing Axis is losing on, in my book, is the ability to adjust the pedal to your playing style. That is why I fell in love with the original Cobras and why I like the Tricks. Plus, I really want direct drive pedals.

p.s. I am beginning to wonder if there is a Love/ Hate realtionship between drummers and their bass pedals.

[sticksnstonesrus]

They make a replacement spring for the Tricks that adds some Uph! That is what I use and the return is great. Plus I feel like it is easier to operate with less tension.

The only thing Axis is losing on, in my book, is the ability to adjust the pedal to your playing style. That is why I fell in love with the original Cobras and why I like the Tricks. Plus, I really want direct drive pedals.

p.s. I am beginning to wonder if there is a Love/ Hate realtionship between drummers and their bass pedals.

The one I tested was "new". Without having replaced the spring, I guess it could be better. It just felt overall, sluggish.

I thought the Axis was, and is, the most versatile pedal on the floor. The AL-2 has more screws to adjust something than a mixing board. If you choose to use the sonic hammers, you get the ability to adjust the forward distance of the beater head AND the angle in which it stirkes. Personally, I found the hammers very heavy and chose to go with some off-name brand beater which is much lighter. IMHO, the Axis remains the coup-de-gras of pedals...but that is me and I do very much respect that everyone plays a different tune, sort of speak. Secondly, I would definitely say that the Axis takes some getitng used to. It doesn't feel like a traditional chain or strap drive pedal, but it does work for me.

Andy