Gadd Lick heeeelllllllllllllpppp

[Dr Drums]

Yo i need this solo WRITTEN, like with NOTES :
Steve Gadd - The Basic Paradiddle Groove
http://www.drummerworld.com/Drumclinic/Steve_Gaddbasic.html

if someone has this chart ill be so grateful

thanks alot!
-a

[Class A Drummer]

I have the chart. But i think it would better if you bought the entire book with it. I just finished the book. It really helped my playing abilities. It is called "Paradiddle Variations" in the book. The "solo" as you call it really consists of 3 grooves which you must learn (but they are all kinda hard to get down, and you have to be able to feel em to get them right).
I really suggest getting the book, not only does it have the paradiddle goove, but it also has Crazy Army, A huge 5 page solo, 50 Ways, A great Mozambique (i think its the thing he does in the late in the evening), and a good samba.

[johnhavart]

Which book are you talking about Class A ?

[Class A Drummer]

Oh yeah, guess i forgot to state which book it is, my fault.

Its called "Steve Gadd Up Close."

[Korompay]

For a PDF click: http://www.prodrum.hu/oktatonline.htm scroll down to 2006 november.
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o284/Korompay/Gadd01.jpg

[Class A Drummer]

For a PDF click: http://www.prodrum.hu/oktatonline.htm scroll down to 2006 november.
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o284/Korompay/Gadd01.jpg

good stuff, but there is one note out of place. I wonder if anyone will catch it.


Edit- my fault, there are 3, not one.

[SickRick]

good stuff, but there is one note out of place. I wonder if anyone will catch it.


Edit- my fault, there are 3, not one.

For a guy who is probably a gazillion years away from actually being able to transcribe that, this is a pretty dumb comment. I know it was meant as a joke. But from you it just didn't work.

Just made me think: "Class A again.... when will that guy ever learn?"

But anyway - very nice transcription right there. Worked on it for a couple of minutes today and it felt really good. Even if there is a wrong note in there or two it is still great stuff. BTW - I didn't step over a wrong one yet.

[millersc]

good stuff, but there is one note out of place. I wonder if anyone will catch it.


Edit- my fault, there are 3, not one.

Well, I don't have the book in front of me, but I do see two. Anyway, it doens't matter. If someone played it up to speed with the correct dynamics I hardley think anyone would notice. Great transcription. I do have the book and it's great and I recommend it to anyone who likes Steve Gadd's licks. There are plenty to keep you busy in that book.

[Korompay]

First bar, count four: the Up Close book is faulty (the 32nd note version, the 16th note version is O.K.), third bar, count two: my transcription is faulty, fifth bar, counts three and four: Gadd clicks the sticks together accidentally, my transcription is faulty again: no hi-hat with the backbeat in count four.
Nice catch by the way.....

[Korompay]

I made some corrections, hopefully it's O.K. now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFoigqf8_y0
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o284/Korompay/Gadd32th.jpg

[Class A Drummer]

For a guy who is probably a gazillion years away from actually being able to transcribe that, this is a pretty dumb comment. I know it was meant as a joke. But from you it just didn't work.

Just made me think: "Class A again.... when will that guy ever learn?"

But anyway - very nice transcription right there. Worked on it for a couple of minutes today and it felt really good. Even if there is a wrong note in there or two it is still great stuff. BTW - I didn't step over a wrong one yet.

Are you serious? Why was it a dumb comment? It wasnt a joke either. I actually think your comment was dumb. I wouldnt just go around saying things are wrong for fun. The thing is it wasnt completely correct and i was just putting it out there. Korompay did fix it well though.

[millersc]

Are you serious? Why was it a dumb comment? It wasnt a joke either. I actually think your comment was dumb. I wouldnt just go around saying things are wrong for fun. The thing is it wasnt completely correct and i was just putting it out there. Korompay did fix it well though.

I think what he is trying to say is that you come across bad. If you didn't have the book UP CLOSE in front of you (and probably me in that case) you wouldn't know if the transcription is 100% correct or not. Korompay did an excellent job transcribing it and either way, as I said before, I don't think anyone could tell the difference between the two when listening.

[SickRick]

I think what he is trying to say is that you come across bad. If you didn't have the book UP CLOSE in front of you (and probably me in that case) you wouldn't know if the transcription is 100% correct or not. Korompay did an excellent job transcribing it and either way, as I said before, I don't think anyone could tell the difference between the two when listening.

That is exactly what I was trying to point out. If you actually listen to Class A drumming that Gadd stuff you will hear after a second that he is a)not able to play that stuff and should focus on easier material and b)not able to transcribe it - so if he didn't have the book he wouldn't have realized that there are errors in the transcription.

From the point/level at which Class A is at, his comment was dumb. That is as if a tennis player who hits maybe around 1% of his services (if he is lucky) would tell Roger Federer how to serve.... The general terminus for that kind of action is dumb I think. That is why I made that remark.

[millersc]

I do applaud Class A for posting his drumming, because everyone starts out somewhere and it's good to get other people's takes on how you're doing. But, no one should have this attitude of talking down to other people when they do a transcription. You have to come across in a good way when trying to correct someone's mistake(s). Especially when it is very possible that they are a much better drummer then we are. I know I do. We also ought not to think better of ourselves then what we really are. Just my two cents.

[Class A Drummer]

That is exactly what I was trying to point out. If you actually listen to Class A drumming that Gadd stuff you will hear after a second that he is a)not able to play that stuff and should focus on easier material and b)not able to transcribe it - so if he didn't have the book he wouldn't have realized that there are errors in the transcription.

From the point/level at which Class A is at, his comment was dumb. That is as if a tennis player who hits maybe around 1% of his services (if he is lucky) would tell Roger Federer how to serve.... The general terminus for that kind of action is dumb I think. That is why I made that remark.

I have played it countless times and belive me, i have it memorized. I also then checked the book to make sure i was right in my accusations, which i was obviously by the later post transcription which was completley correct. If i was right, i cant seem to understand why it is dumb. And you dont know how good i am at playing it anymore, at the time i posted it which was like a year ago or 8 months ago or however, i was terrible at keeping time, and had just learned the groove. I am better at it now.

Its just simple critisism, there is no reason to make stupid comments about how my comment was bad if it was correct.

[SickRick]

I have played it countless times and belive me, i have it memorized. I also then checked the book to make sure i was right in my accusations, which i was obviously by the later post transcription which was completley correct. If i was right, i cant seem to understand why it is dumb. And you dont know how good i am at playing it anymore, at the time i posted it which was like a year ago or 8 months ago or however, i was terrible at keeping time, and had just learned the groove. I am better at it now.

Its just simple critisism, there is no reason to make stupid comments about how my comment was bad if it was correct.

At the time you posted your drumming you thought that it was good. At least you had a real attitude about it and that pi**ed quite some guys off. If you think that you're better by now or if you think that you have memorized it by now that is fine. If you still believe that that piece becomes any better if you leave that one HiHat on the 4 or if put in another HiHat somewhere else it just proves that you still haven't got it. It is an improvisation and you may believe it or not, but Steve Gadd might as well have played it just the way that Korompay transcribed it without it beeing any better or worse.

What I was trying to tell you is this (you won't get it anyway, but I'll try anyway): Sometimes - if it is totally obvious that a guy who is probably 100 times better than you are yourself (yes, there are some (few) better players than you) posts something like this - it is better to STFU and listen (or ask questions how to play that better because you might assume that a guy who can transcribe it can also play it and might teach you something about how to play it better) instead of making pointless remarks about a wrong note.

So the correct answer from you to Korompays post would have been:
"Great transcription man. I've been trying to play this thing for almost one year now but I still feel like I might improve on it. Got any usefull ways of how to break it down and practise it? Thanks. Oh, btw - I found that there are a few notes different from the way they are transcribed in the Up Close book - you might want to check into that."

Something like that would have been apropriate. But some guys just won't learn. And now - for the sake of my sanity:

Class A = ignore.

Thank you. ByeBye.

[millersc]

I have played it countless times and belive me, i have it memorized. I also then checked the book to make sure i was right in my accusations, which i was obviously by the later post transcription which was completley correct. If i was right, i cant seem to understand why it is dumb. And you dont know how good i am at playing it anymore, at the time i posted it which was like a year ago or 8 months ago or however, i was terrible at keeping time, and had just learned the groove. I am better at it now.

Its just simple critisism, there is no reason to make stupid comments about how my comment was bad if it was correct.

I understand what you mean here, with playing it and having it memorized. But you need to understand, reading something is much easier to work out then writing it. We all love to read a good book, but how many people write a good book that makes any sense? I agree with how Rick said you should've responded. I think that's the way to go. When you come across as someone so far above all this, like you're a pro or something, people don't respond well to that. That's what made Steve Gadd so great (when I went to a clinic). He was the most humble guy in the world. Even though the grooves were his, he said he stole them from everybody else. He never said to someone who talked about a groove wrong that they didn't know what they were talking about, even though, of everybody, he could. That's IMO is what to emulate. Being one of the greatest drummers ever, and being humble.

[KLittle123]

Anyone remember how much we loved Class A's Paradiddle Variation when he uploaded a video of it?

Sarcasm...just to let you know.

[millersc]

I applaud him for putting his playing up to the scrutinizing eyes on this forum; everyone has to start somewhere. But, don't come across that you know it all is my point. It's all in the delivery.