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Drummer95
03-04-2007, 12:44 AM
Im able to do fast doubles but i cant seem to get triplets. Do you guys have any advice or suggestions on how to go about it? Sorry if this has been asked before but I searched and couldnt find it.

Gravy
03-04-2007, 12:52 AM
I'm not sure about this, but I'm pretty sure you can combine heel-toe (for the first two hits) and the constant release technique (for the third one) to get a triplet. I haven't tried it, but I'm pretty sure it could work.

SEVNT7
03-05-2007, 01:14 AM
Down, Tap, Up. Moeller...Later..T

Class A Drummer
03-05-2007, 01:35 AM
Check out youtube and do a search for the swivel technique. That kinda brings out a triplet feel. Also, check out Tim Waterson's DVD Trailor, it shows him doing triplets.

ermghoti
03-05-2007, 01:47 AM
My instructor has started me on the slide/swivel, and I find I can easily (relatively, I mean, as I suck) get triplets by bouncing three times on my way up the pedal. Very difficult to explain, though. Your using a little forward, kicking-type motion, to take some of the effort away from lifting and dropping your foot. He decribed it like trapping a bouncing ball by sweeping down at it when it's on the way up.

skippy
03-05-2007, 04:50 AM
i was just doing this earlier. i was trying to figure a way to get good solid triplets on it and i came up with a heel toe sort of thing where i went from heel up tp heel down to get the first hit and then on on to the toe back in to heel up and then just did a regular heel up kick. so all in all it went:

heel up to heel down
heel down to heel up
regular heel up kick.

i hope this helps.

k3ng
03-05-2007, 04:53 AM
I think the best crack at this would be the swivel technique. I don't do the swivel myself, but you can check out Tim Waterson for some awesome swivel technique.

I do triplets on the bass using ordinary triple bounces. Takes alot of control, but I'm getting it quite ok.

mr_hayward_99
03-05-2007, 08:20 AM
i use constant release

like skippy said its that kind of motion.

if you want to learn how to do it watch steve smiths video history of the us beat (the technique disk) - he explains it here

but in all honesty technque is a means to an end yoyu might find using either of the techniques here will suit you better at playing multiple hit strokes

hope this helps

skaman
03-05-2007, 09:39 AM
I'm not sure about this, but I'm pretty sure you can combine heel-toe (for the first two hits) and the constant release technique (for the third one) to get a triplet. I haven't tried it, but I'm pretty sure it could work.


Very logical explenation! This must work!

f4phantom2500
03-06-2007, 10:03 AM
I was experimenting with a heel toe/slide combo thing, and using my DW5000 on my DTXpress bass trigger I was able to play that pattern that Jojo Mayer plays in that one video, but I think that trigger's too bouncy so that may have been causing some of the hits...but it worked lol. Anyway, on an acoustic drum kit using a crappy pedal I was able to do a solid triple multiple times (haven't mastered it, but it was very solid when I was able to do it) using this technique. Basically you do a heel toe double stroke then pull your foot back to go into a slide, and you catch the pedal in the middle on its way back up to go into the slide; the pedal I was using then was very steep so it was hard to finish the slide, so I may have been able to do a quad on a good pedal. So:

Stroke 1: heel on back of pedal
Stroke 2: toe on front of pedal
Stroke 3: toe in middle of pedal (catch on pedal's way back up)
Stroke 4: toe on front of pedal (slide from middle)

Work on it, I know it worked on my DTXpress, I wanna see if other people can do it on normal kits with good pedals, or if it was just that the bass trigger was too bouncy on my DTXpress. Again, if your pedal's steep it will be significantly more difficult, at least in my experience, to execute the 4th stroke than on a less steep pedal, but you should at least be able to do a triple stroke.

Ultimately, I wanted to develop this technique into a continuous motion, but I don't have the time, nor an acoustic kit, with which to practice sufficiently. I came up with this idea myself, so if anybody has any suggestions or anything please feel free to throw them my way.

EDIT: I always had to do this in a sock because shoe or barefoot brought too much traction between my foot and the pedal.

da cheese walks
03-06-2007, 01:34 PM
I can do a triplet....but honestly i dont have a clue how!?

I just started doing loads of doubles excersises,gettin my feet worked up,and then playing beats...now i can do it in certain beats,but not on its own....

what i kinda do is use the top of my foot,heel up,and pushing twice to do a double like usual,and then pushing my foot forward then,to go for the triplet....

ive also tried doing quads this way,by using the same technique,and then pushing my foot back down with my heel down.....it can get confusing!But its great....

f4phantom2500
03-06-2007, 05:38 PM
I can do a triplet....but honestly i dont have a clue how!?

I just started doing loads of doubles excersises,gettin my feet worked up,and then playing beats...now i can do it in certain beats,but not on its own....

what i kinda do is use the top of my foot,heel up,and pushing twice to do a double like usual,and then pushing my foot forward then,to go for the triplet....

ive also tried doing quads this way,by using the same technique,and then pushing my foot back down with my heel down.....it can get confusing!But its great....

Are you talking about a slide? That's what it sounds like, but I just want to be sure.

=J=
03-06-2007, 08:32 PM
I just use heel toe and leave the first heel stroke a bit longer and the second comes naturally from the rebound then the third is the toe stroke.

SEVNT7
03-07-2007, 06:15 AM
I just use heel toe and leave the first heel stroke a bit longer and the second comes naturally from the rebound then the third is the toe stroke.
Yes. Down, Tap, Up. Moeller (for feet) using the concept of constant rebound. Down=heel, Tap=ankle only(heel down) Up= toe. Later....T

da cheese walks
03-07-2007, 03:55 PM
Are you talking about a slide? That's what it sounds like, but I just want to be sure.

I dunno really....its not so much a slide as basically tapping and shuffling my toes.....maybe could be considered a slide?haha!It works how i do it anyway!

another good thing to do is learn songs that you can fit a triplet into....yknow?for instance i learned "Fire"(Hendrix) with my band...but every so often i jam on the beat,and fit triplets an stuff in.....it can help if its in a beat...

Casper "DrPowerStroke" Paludan
03-08-2007, 03:49 PM
I prefer singles on my peddle, more interesting that way. Silly, I know....

Diaz
03-09-2007, 02:53 AM
If you can bust out the 32nds, which you should be able to with a single pedal then just space it out a little more for 3 kicks real quick... It's hard but after a little it'll come more naturally

KLittle123
03-09-2007, 03:59 AM
Just play 3 notes in a row and keep doing that, throw it in until you become acquainted wiht 3 notes like you learned 2 notes.

Drummer95
03-11-2007, 08:12 PM
Thanks guys for the responses. I will check out some of the videos and such mentioned here. I really just use the slide technique for achieving my fast doubles and im not that great at the heel-toe. So im just going to parctice a lot and i will get back to guys if I have any more questions.

EB