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schnitz
09-17-2005, 08:13 PM
This guys one of the best metal drummers out there. Crazy fills, AMAZING db chops, and fits well with the music. I really think he is one of the best drummers out there.

A7X
09-17-2005, 09:28 PM
I do agree he's really good, and A7X just happens to be my favourite band. I wouldn't says hes the best, but he has awsum chops for sure; listen ot beast and the Harlout and about 3/4 through you and ull hear his fast hands and in Blinded in chains about 2:50 through he shows off a bit of the rudiments he can play with his feet.

I mainly like the Rev cause hes fills just fit so nicely into the songs, it ither compliments the guitar, bass or the vocals. The Rev also sings harmony while he plays, and doing that in A7X's songs wouldn't be easy.

He's not the best but i think one of the most tasteful, and i also believe he dosent show all his talent in his songs, he could probably bust out a crazy solo if he wanted.

Drummer_Boy
09-19-2005, 01:08 AM
I was listening to about an hour ago, Avenged Sevenfold, and thought he was pretty cool and the rest of the band wasn't doing as good as him. Oh well. I liked the song, and the drumming was nice.

A7X
09-19-2005, 05:31 AM
Acually i think the guitarist in the band are pretty incredible, IMO just as good as Joe and Steive Via. I know synster went to a music school and if u listen there new CD City of Evil there's some insane guitar on it.

Digital
10-28-2005, 04:22 AM
The drumming on Bat Country is just amazing

A thunder of Coxy
10-28-2005, 07:25 PM
I think he triggers his bass drums by the sound of it and I doubt at live shows he would play exactly the same as it (studiomagic).

A7X
10-29-2005, 12:54 AM
Why wouldn't he play it the same live? do you mean it would just sound different?

Zirar
10-29-2005, 04:00 AM
You can use triggers live, I've seen many drummers do it - espically on the kick drum. It helps keep the sound consistant from night to night on tour. I've also herd that at one point in time Vinnie Paul was triggering all of his studio sounds for live use.

wowzer77
11-11-2005, 11:50 PM
So how many of you know of the drummer of Avenged Sevenfold? The Reverend. He deserves to be on this site in my opinion. He's really good. And very underrated.

Johnny_Stacks
11-12-2005, 02:21 AM
I love the reverend. But if you try to search him on the internet you can find close to nothing on him. and i do think he is an extremly underrated drummer also. i still dont see why people have not taken notice of him. hes amazing. i would love to see some solos of him on here!!!

- John

TicTac
11-13-2005, 08:34 PM
Hell yea he needs be. hes amazing. hands down, hes over looked. I agree, you try searching ANYTHING on him and u get nothing. Its crap. He deffinitly should be looked at and talked about.

Foog
11-13-2005, 10:22 PM
oh god..i hate avenged sevenfold..i think the reverend has gotten just as much recognition as he deserves.

XNIRVANAX
11-14-2005, 12:11 AM
i saw them live he is pretty good and even if you dont like avenged which im not really a fan he is underrated i cant spell

The Rev #2
11-15-2005, 08:30 PM
Hello ppl, I totally agree with the other guys, except that one dude. The Reverend is my favorite drummer hands down. He's SO underated, its rediculous. He needs rccoginition, and he needs to be on here.

zildjian_dude101
11-15-2005, 08:42 PM
The Rev is right up there with my favorite drummers. hes amazing. and im completly obsessed with avenged sevenfold. i have all thier albums. he doesnt just have speed either. hes got technique, like Mike Portnoy. Avenged Sevenfold is influenced by Dreamtheater by the way. says so on their bio.

The Rev #2
12-02-2005, 01:53 AM
I've said it a million times. The Rev is just awsome. Period.

ZipZero55
12-30-2005, 04:22 AM
avenged sevenfold is def one of the most influential bands in the metal area right now..THE REV makes the band i think. he really just completes the sounds and he can play crazy fills...only thing i hope on the next album he plays more solos and maybe some change up parts i mean the last one was good, but his drumming was probably crazier on the first....or maybe it was just different but whateva it was awesome non-the-less

Jaymasta
12-30-2005, 10:17 AM
He is a great drummer I love his drumming in Bat Country hes insanely fast!

CartersChops
01-03-2006, 05:40 AM
at first i thought it was all studio magic with him, then i saw him live and he hit every single note dead on. i think his drumming portreys the definition of "feel" for a metal song. a7x is incredable, i wouldnt put the guitarist on the same level as vai, he is amazing tho.
hands down, the rev is THE up and comming drummer on the metal scene.

CartersChops
01-03-2006, 11:29 PM
the guitarists are ok...they mostly play catchy stuff... the singing for a7x now makes me cringe. it seems like he had a cold when he recorded that album...

by the way if u want to see some seriously kickass guitarists you should check out children of bodom and dragonforce.
haha i dont think the guitarists are quite on par with alexi of bodom, but they certainly are amazing at what they do.
the vocals made me cringe at first, then i realized they were incredably unique and mix flavors of balls to the wall metal, hardcore, metalica, Guns n roses. he has a pretty insane range too, not many people can sing that high.

zildjian_dude101
01-05-2006, 07:40 PM
One of my favorite bands. I think the drummer is the main attraction, but the guitarist does display some amazing talent. The singer isn't that bad, but sounds better when he screams. He can't scream now though because he had throat surgery.

giant_mtb
01-08-2006, 05:46 AM
Avenged Sevenfold's drummer. Most people might know their song Bat Country from MTV's TRL, which was recently the number one video. He is a very good drummer on all their CD's (Sounding the Seventh Trumpet, Waking the Fallen, and City of Evil). He's very creative and is excellent with his feet not only in speed, but rudimentally and rythmacally.

Anyone know his real name? I only know the stage names of A7X.

MSUMetal
02-21-2006, 07:48 AM
I've gotten into Avenged Sevenfold recently, and I must say I agree with you on how he puts the double bass in at some parts it sounds really sweet. Although far from my favorite drummer and band, they're both quickly rising on my list.

wontgetfooledagain
03-03-2006, 03:35 AM
Based on "Bat Country" I think this drummer (stage names are the dumbest things in the history of music) is nothing more than a person who can play fast beats on a bass and has bad snare sound. Whatever happened to groove?

tambian89
03-03-2006, 04:16 AM
Anyway: I happen to think the Reverand is just another Hardcore drummer. I don't feel he has brought anything new to the genre, and I don't think he is that good at hardcore drumming. He doesn't display any knowledge of other types of drumming (like jazz). Plus I think Avenged Sevenfold is the most ridiculous band in existance (who would give themselves stage names like that?)

- Marc

tambian89
03-03-2006, 04:19 AM
Based on "Bat Country" I think this drummer (stage names are the dumbest things in the history of music) is nothing more than a person who can play fast beats on a bass and has bad snare sound. Whatever happened to groove?

This guy is totally right; I hate his snare sound too!!!! The Reverand has no sense of grooves - Avenged Sevenfold are talented musicians separately (you can tell just by listening to them), but when they perform as a band, I hate it.

- Marc

wontgetfooledagain
03-03-2006, 04:32 AM
This guy is totally right; I hate his snare sound too!!!! The Reverand has no sense of grooves - Avenged Sevenfold are talented musicians separately (you can tell just by listening to them), but when they perform as a band, I hate it.

- Marc
And I'm not even a drummer...though I was at one time.

A7X
03-04-2006, 12:26 AM
Plus I think Avenged Sevenfold is the most ridiculous band in existance (who would give themselves stage names like that?)

- Marc

Just thought i would throw this out here, the reason for the weird stage names is becaue they were tired of people bothering them, calling them adding there emails etc. So they decided to make fake stage names... simple concept really, i don't think they were trying to be "cool" or unique. Just my 2 cents

Mr. Bananagrabber
03-04-2006, 05:45 AM
He doesn't display any knowledge of other types of drumming (like jazz). Plus I think Avenged Sevenfold is the most ridiculous band in existance (who would give themselves stage names like that?)

- Marc

Well he's not in a jazz band, so its unlikely to be immediately obvious if he can play any jazz. And there are definately bands with much more ridiculous gimmicks than dodgy stage names. coughslipknotcough

IronCobraPTW
03-05-2006, 12:25 AM
Avenged Sevenfold's drummer. Most people might know their song Bat Country from MTV's TRL, which was recently the number one video. He is a very good drummer on all their CD's (Sounding the Seventh Trumpet, Waking the Fallen, and City of Evil). He's very creative and is excellent with his feet not only in speed, but rudimentally and rythmacally.

Anyone know his real name? I only know the stage names of A7X.

his name is Jimmy Sullivan
hes a very talented drummer but hes not incredible but i do have to say his drumming fits the music quite well plus as many have said he is quite underrated cause you hear everyone talking about travis barker but the rev can take him to town and back again so i hope he gets the recognition he deserves

Stu_Strib
03-15-2006, 04:15 PM
No we are talking! This guy is great. Too bad he doesn't have 17 pages of discussion thread like some other guy that I've been known to criticize.

This is INTERESTING use of doubles and blasts and big tom fills. He is very musical, flamming across multiple drums and lots of dynamics. His drumming is very very very good! It is refreshing for someone to play this kind of music to give it some space and not just bash away with running 32nd notes and double stroke snare riffs for 3 minutes straight.

The Middle of "Beast and the Harlot" has serious chops.

My one complaint would be the heavily engineered drum sound on his bassdrums.

jollymosher
03-15-2006, 04:21 PM
yeah, but because of the stage name he uses u cant find any info on this guy. its like calling himself "dude"

smoggrocks
03-16-2006, 01:15 AM
i just heard this band for the first time this past weekend, and must say i was impressed. i thought they had a good and unique sound, diverse tunes, and definite talent. i think they're coming around here soon, so perhaps i'll check 'em out.

always nice to hear of newer bands that are going beyond the same 'ole, same 'ole.


geez, i am really killin' time at work if i'm on page 14 of this section...

tambian89
03-17-2006, 05:32 AM
Hey Tambian89 i think your opinion hardly matters in a situation. Just letting your experience speak for it self. Granted that you can learn alot in a few years, there is still a lot of drumming knowledge that takes many years to gain. A drummer is a unique person and has the right to show it through their drumming. They have their own right to learn whatever they want, they have the right to play how good they want, and they have the right to incorporate what types of music they want. I think The Reverend plays pretty good.
Given the fact that his drum parts are not all the same and they fit the music. I think next time you say something about a drummer you should listen very closely to all their music before you judge them.

Ok: My opinion hardly matters......how? That's pretty rude of you to say; I did nothing to really attack him or you. Are you saying that because I've been drumming for just over 2 years, I have no right to express my opinion? Send me a person message if you have something against me or something like that.

I have listened to Avenged Sevenfold, and personally I don't like them. I have looked at the drum parts, too. In terms of creativity, everything the Reverand has played has been done before. In fact, Blake Richardson of Between the Buried and Me seems to do a better job than the Reverand does; Richardson is able to play in not only a more appealing manner, but has a better sense of grooves, as they are far more interesting.

Of course I realize a person can do whatever they want; I myself do it in my own band. I just think that the Reverand doesn't seem to incorporate other styles into his drumming, and his so-called "grooves" have been done before (listen to ...And Justice For All by Metallica, whom "A7X" cites as one of their main influences). Instead of attempting to encompass a wide array of styles, he sticks to typical hardcore grooves. I hardly consider him a bad drummer - he plays his style well - but I feel he gets far too much recognition, and is highly over-rated. His drumming is good, however, it is not a superior as everyone views it; he isn't that good where he deserves this recognition. When he can bring something new to Hardcore music (which Blake Richardson has done), then I will consider as great as everyone else seems to consider him until then, I don't.

- Marc

mlehnertz
03-17-2006, 09:38 PM
After being beaten over the head with tune on the local radio for the last two weeks I've been dying to bash this tune and FINALLY I can. What is up with the sound of his drums? The snare drum sounds completely awful. Bass drum(s) are poorly tuned as well. I also think that he's so busy trying to show off his chops that his kicks aren't on time. I also think he's not very clean in his playing.

There I feel better.

The drumming on Bat Country is just amazing

mlehnertz
03-17-2006, 09:41 PM
Yes! Yes! I love it. I'm glad I'm not alone in my dislike of this stuff.

This guy is totally right; I hate his snare sound too!!!! The Reverand has no sense of grooves - Avenged Sevenfold are talented musicians separately (you can tell just by listening to them), but when they perform as a band, I hate it.

- Marc

theduke86
03-18-2006, 10:43 AM
This is a jazz drummer's opinion after listening to the whole newest album.....
Drummer in question is very very good- great time, great part selection, nice touch for the music. Good technique, too. Not my style, but objectively speaking his playing is great and he's got a lot of stuff going. Keep on rockin' Reverend.
edit: I also think he's the tightest and most technically accomplished in the band... You can tell by his time. He carries that group, I think. Much like Travis Barker carries Blink.

Stu_Strib
03-18-2006, 11:30 AM
I quite like the oomph in his snare drum. It's refreshing to hear something other than ultra-high pitched crakin' snares for once.

He could stand to have a little more snare sound and a little less "snares off" sound I suppose.

mlehnertz
03-18-2006, 06:06 PM
Are we listening to the same tune Stu? Bat Country? Good God man, if you thought the DW snare sound was bitchin' in the "baby drummer" thread, how can you like this snare sound?

I quite like the oomph in his snare drum. It's refreshing to hear something other than ultra-high pitched crakin' snares for once.

AvengedDrummer
03-18-2006, 06:28 PM
Its not possible to judge this this drummer by the song bat country. Their second CD waking the fallen, has amazing drumming throughout and I am blown away every time I listen to it.

Alk3fan
03-18-2006, 07:26 PM
hrmm.. Avenged Sevenfold. personally, i love these guys. guitarists do a great job playing in their songs, interesting, staying in key, harmonizing riffs. the singer has a very unique voice and stays in key. the drumming is very creative and very technical while still fitting to the music. I saw these guys live.. and i do have a complaint. while his drumming is spectacular, he barely hits his drums, like tapping at some points. at some points you couldnt even here some of the drums, expecially the snare. and his snare drum sounds the same live too, im not a big fan of it. and if you look in modern drummer at the pacific drum ads with him in it, he is holding the stick between his fingers, he actually plays like that alot live, he does excessive stick twirling, which is the reason for the weird grip on the stick. but you gotta hand it to these guys, fact is they are good musicians that create good music, just not to everyones preferences.

averypoordrummer
03-18-2006, 08:19 PM
i must first say that i hate avenged sevenfold, really not my thing.

however, i have a lot of respect for them because they are extremely good musicians

AND i think that the reverand is absolutely awsome

Stu_Strib
03-18-2006, 08:31 PM
Are we listening to the same tune Stu? Bat Country? Good God man, if you thought the DW snare sound was bitchin' in the "baby drummer" thread, how can you like this snare sound?


Actually I was just going off the whole album. I personally think Bat Country isn't the best song on there (but I do see why it was the main single).

Listening to it again (bat country, actually all the songs sound like the same snare), yeah, I like it a lot. It has a nice dry woody sound too it. The only snare sounds I really don't like are those high pitched twangy snares (the piccolo's). Or like a lot of the R&B guys who tune their snares so high it chokes all the tone out of it and all you get is CRACK CRACK CRACK CRACK sound.

I like the Revs snare because it has beef. Of course it loses the nice snare response, but who cares. He just smashing the hell out of it anyway! Most of that sound is probably from Protools anyway. It sounds heavily engineered, since I've never heard a snare sound that way naturally.

CheeseCake
03-18-2006, 09:47 PM
I especially love the song "Sidewinder".

A7X
03-18-2006, 11:46 PM
I especially love the song "Sidewinder".

Yes Sidewinder, Wicked end and Betrayed are my favs.

burnthehero
03-21-2006, 12:06 PM
That's it. I think I'm going to buy "Waking The Fallen" tomorrow so I can finally hear what all this hype is about.

cdawg_2010
03-22-2006, 04:30 AM
i enjoy listenin to the guy, I think hes really good. He prolly doesnt have that many videos anyway of him just drumming tho. i like all his snare and double bass work, and i think he has great fills

the.tree
03-22-2006, 05:36 AM
I don't listen to much avenged, but this guy does seem good. From the videos they're whole band is incredible at what they play. But then again I haven't researched hundreds of drummers so I ca't really compare him to much, but he's obviously talented.

drummerern
03-23-2006, 07:05 AM
he's fast, technical, and something rarely found in metal drummers...tasteful, he' doesn't overplay the music. i'm not all that into metal, but i'll admit it, i have all 3 avenged sevenfold cd's on my ipod. this guy is a good drummer, and i think he deserves to be put on the site.

DogBreath
03-23-2006, 07:12 AM
Hey guys, just another reminder that the purpose of this topic is to talk about drummers, and each thread is to talk about a specific drummer. Not to insult each other, not to say how much better someone else is, and not to bash or troll. Posts that need to be deleted will be, and "repeat offenders" will be escorted to the door. Thanks.

Bernhard
03-24-2006, 08:22 AM
1. there is no site who respects you more
2. there are many rules everywhere, but we have only one: don't bash drummers for their playing, even when you think you're better
3. no, in this way, there's NO free speech.

Bernhard

Samf
03-25-2006, 05:55 AM
A-Men Bernhard

It is amazing to me to read post about other drummers on sites. It is no wonder very few log in and share info with us. When in rare cases they do join in the tune changes and everyone who threw rocks is now flowering them with "your the best" posts after banging on them.

These guys allow this site to post their vid's and clinic stuff that is a tremendous help to all of even though there are some that act like idiots.

The Rev is a kid who has spent time mastering what he does. To some it may seem basic but he does it in time and clean. Look at all the posts on DB, hand speed and it is obvious that this kid has put in the time, practice, and hard work to get to this level.

You are right he is no Gadd, Smith, Rich, or Lang to name a few but neither we they at his age. Rev if you ever log on props kid (yeah kid i am 42) for your dedication and effort it shows in your playing. I like what you do only at my age you won't see me in the front row with my lip stapled to my eye-brow, but I will listen on my Ipod.

A7X
03-25-2006, 06:25 AM
The Rev seems like one of those drummers you hear that sound like they could bust out some really kool technical stuff if you went to there house and listened to them practicing, and messing around. Think about it, do you bust out all your sweetest technical fills and odd time beats? Probably not unless the style of music you play requires it, and even if it dose you probably don't play to the LIMIT of your abilities, well not live anyways. It's not like he's going all out on there Cd's, he's playing what he feels fits in best and what not. I recall a interview of him talking about the drumming on "City of Evil", how he doesnt care if it impresses everyone or not, just if his band likes it.

This goes for a lot of drummers i hear, and people seem to judge there skills just based on a cd, which i think is a bit far-fetched. Just my 2 cents tho!

tambian89
03-27-2006, 05:55 AM
I find "The Reverand's" drumming to be a little repetitive; I feel the same way about Avenged Sevenfold's songs. I can tell that "The Reverand" is a pretty talented musician, but I cannot really understand what it is that makes everyone feel he is so amazing. I have heard many better drummers of the same style, so really, what is the "X" factor that makes "The Reverand" so great? Your thoughts?

- Marc

A7X
03-28-2006, 12:51 AM
Yes there are many drummers in genre of music that are just as good or better. I think the "X" factor for me would be his style for lack of a better word. You know he has awsum chops, but he doesnt bust them out every fill, he spends time thinking what would fit best and what would compliment the other instruments, he knows when to play and when not to i guess you could say. I also think you can tell hes holding back in his playing, which is mature and not often a strong point in his genre.

It's kinda of funny, you hear all these metal drummers that show great chops, and have great independence over their limbs, but they don't inspire as many people to start playing as the Rev dose. I believe it's because when he dose decide to display his chops, it has more of a shock value then these other guys do, simply because he doesnt do it every song. (I'm not saying all other metal drummers only play fast repetitive fills either) So i guess in conclusion he's just very tasteful player that plays for the music and not just himself. IMO :)

tambian89
03-28-2006, 12:59 AM
I see..............Personally, I think his fills are ok, but just ok. I'm still waiting for the song where "The Reverand" can bare all his skill, so as to really impress his fans (thought that does not include me). Dave Lombardo shocked his fans with the Slayer song "Silent Scream"; at the time, no one had gone over 200bpm for the sheer amount of time Lombardo did in that song. I think it is a skill when a drummer can create great fills out of nowhere, and can make them interesting. One thing I don't understand is that, if the guitarists don't hold back, why should "The Reverand" ? The drums are just as audible as the guitars and vocals (the bass is the only instrument that cannot be heard very clearly), so I think he should let loose.

- Marc

A7X
03-28-2006, 01:51 AM
Well, he plays a drum solo at most of their shows, but that would be mostly crowd pleaser stuff. He recorded "Waking The Fallen" in 2 weeks, and "Sounding The Seventh Trumpet" the band recoded without a click. I recall a interview of the Rev saying almost all of "Waking the fallen" was made on the spot, they only had general ideas of the songs and he just threw in whatever and it turned out pretty good!

Personally i never got the hype with Lombardo. Though i've only listen to a few of Slayers songs and have only herd his clip on drummerworld which was ok, but it didn't me give the "aw" reaction i was expecting. He's still a great drummer tho, just not the kind im into.
I'm more of a Benny Grebb kinda guy.

Just wanted to add, i don't think his fills are amazing or blazing fast, just tasteful!

tambian89
03-28-2006, 04:15 AM
Listen to "War Ensemble" or anything off of Seasons in the Abyss. Lombardo's drumming is ridiculously fast, and very creative; trust me, if there is one respected metal drummer, it is Dave Lombardo.

- Marc

A7X
03-28-2006, 04:38 AM
I just listened to "War Ensemble" Hmm, I'm sorry but i still don't get it. It wasn't that fast really... i can think of an Avenged Sevenfold songs just as fast with the same amount of chops off the top of my head.Checl out "Darkness Surrounding"(recorded without click) has pretty kool breakdown on the drums about 1:30 into it and "Remissions" and "Eternal Rest" are just as quick. Again i don't think this is amazing drumming, but it's just as good as "War Ensemble".

I don't want this to turn into "my band is better then yours" kinda thing, I'm just telling ya what I think.

rendezvous_drummer
03-28-2006, 07:09 AM
Listen to "War Ensemble" or anything off of Seasons in the Abyss. Lombardo's drumming is ridiculously fast, and very creative; trust me, if there is one respected metal drummer, it is Dave Lombardo.

- Marc
right on man, Dave Lombardo is the best metal drummer that i've heard, and guess what.....SLAYER IS COMING TO VANCOUVER JULY 13TH!!! So if im not in Europe, i'll be seeing Dave Lombardo and the greatest metal band! As for The Reverand, i don't mind his drumming, he is alright but i hate his snare sound. That has nothing to do with his drumming, but he is good, are people considering him a metal drummer though???

rendezvous_drummer
03-28-2006, 07:11 AM
I like Beast and the Harlot though, a real catchy tune.

dLesage
04-03-2006, 02:12 AM
ahhhh yes, I see this thread and I'm finally convinced to actually make an account and make my own post, instead of just reading posts by everyone else.

Whatever the case, I need to start by admitting I'm a bit biased because I absolutely love A7X's music. However, if the drumming wasn't tasteful, I would absolutely hate it. As a musician in a band, he fits his drumming into the song VERY well instead of trying to show off his amazing skill. Which he still does a fairly decent job of anyways. A7X's songs are very well put together, something I can only HOPE to pull off someday in the future, which is still highly unlikely. They are all very skilled at what they do.

I'm listening to a live version of "Beast and the Harlot" right now. I've seen many amazing drum solos, videos, etc (my favorite is still benny greb's montreal one :D ) yet this still impresses me. And now that I've said all this, I must admit I'm not a huge fan of songs with very random beats. I prefer my songs to be catchy, instead of trying to show off technique and losing certain parts of musicianship (imho). My 2 cents.

-Dave

secondXheartbeat
04-03-2006, 03:52 AM
Stu I don't think his snare is that engineered. I've gotten a similar sound by cranking up a Remo Renaissance head on my old yamah Power V steel snare and a RemO on top of it. Not the EXACT sound, but pretty close.

I'm not saying that Rev secretley uses Yamaha snares and RemOs, I'm just saying that that "beefy" sound can be achieved without ProTools.

J.Christ
04-23-2006, 04:04 AM
For those who asked about the members of Avenged Sevenfold's real names, I apologise in advance if someone already posted them... but here they are..
M.Shadows (Vocals) - Matthew Sanders
Synyster Gates (Lead Guitar) - Brian Haner, Jr.
Zachy Vengeance (Rhythm Guitar) - Zachary Baker
Johnny Christ (Bassist) - Johnathan Seward
The Reverend (Drums) - James Sullivan

drummer625
04-24-2006, 03:38 AM
He is definatly one of the best drummers right now and every 1 in avenged sevefold is really good...they are just an awesome band

soundstream03
05-11-2006, 11:19 PM
I am not sure if anyone has replied to the "what is his name" question, but if you dont know yet, The revs name is Jimmy Sullivan.
Mike

osamasgoat5467
05-12-2006, 10:57 PM
I do agree he's really good, and A7X just happens to be my favourite band. I wouldn't says hes the best, but he has awsum chops for sure; listen ot beast and the Harlout and about 3/4 through you and ull hear his fast hands and in Blinded in chains about 2:50 through he shows off a bit of the rudiments he can play with his feet.

I mainly like the Rev cause hes fills just fit so nicely into the songs, it ither compliments the guitar, bass or the vocals. The Rev also sings harmony while he plays, and doing that in A7X's songs wouldn't be easy.

He's not the best but i think one of the most tasteful, and i also believe he dosent show all his talent in his songs, he could probably bust out a crazy solo if he wanted.

Listen to it about 30 seconds into the song too. The whole thing is amazing.

YamahaDrummerAus
05-20-2006, 09:13 AM
I think his bass drum doesnt sound THAT great. The Snare is great and his ride cymbal!!!! WOW!

T-1000
05-21-2006, 12:53 AM
Tambian, dude, though I don't particularly like this band (I really dislike M. Shadow's sense of melody - seriously, all his tunes are ripped off, and when they aren't they're just directionless), you can hardly deny that 'the rev' is a bit special.

Absolutely watertight playing, extremely fast (so what if he wasn't the first to go over 200bpm; Thomas Lang wasn't the first to use 4 way independance - does that mean he's not any good at it!!?), very creative, I'd argue, actually playing patterns on the db, instead of mindless blasting.

I still think Blake Richardson is extremely good also, but, asides from that neat carribean-sounding groove on 'Laser Speed', he doesn't stike me as displaying any obvious jazz, or latin chops, and why should he? Blending genres can be, I think, a somewhat lazy way of trying to be creative. Making a fusion of jazz, metal, african, country, folk, krautrock, celtic, electronica may be original, but would probably sound pretty crap.

It's actually harder to be creative WITHIN your genre (in this case, metal/hard rock) than to cut and paste stereotypical patterns from other genres onto your songs. If you see what I mean, I think it's better to invent a nice groove in a rock song than to borrow a pre-existing groove from a genre other than rock for use in a rock song.

drummerstar101
05-23-2006, 03:59 AM
ive been listening to them lately and i really think they have got loads of talent ...they have great guitar/drum solos and well im no good at righting reviews or anything but or describing how good bands are and such so its best u listen to them instead of take my word for it.
well i think thats it

post here if u agree /disagree with me

millerdakiller
05-23-2006, 05:50 AM
I think they're kind of over-rated. They're definately talented, but I've heard people call thier guitarists the next vai and I laughed. They write some pretty good pop-metal songs, that are fun to sing. They're drummer has some pretty good chops, but it's metal drumming so most of it just sounds like really fast rolls, althought he does have a few cool blurta licks. They have this one song that goes into an acoustic latin jam at the end, I thought that was neat, and at the same time gimmicky. But still fun. They're alright I guess is what I've so elaborately conveyed.

metalheadeza666
05-23-2006, 09:04 PM
No way are A7X overated! Anyway, I bought Avenged's "City Of Evil" bout month ago and it hasn't left my CD player since. The Reverend does a great job, especially on "Blinde in cahins" where he plays a fill on the snare and mimicks it on the double bass, I'm not saying that I'm amazed about what a super tecnical drummer he is cause he's not really, (but still more technically advanced than Lars Ulrich, but tha's another story), but it's a good effect and he suits A7X down to the ground. Yeah, I think Avenged are really good, I wouldn't call them Pop Metal either, it's metal, just don't know exactly what type. meh.

beatsMcGee
05-23-2006, 09:08 PM
i think they are alright, kinda have a different sound then you hear on mtv nowadays, but their drummer def has talent, hes got some pretty nice chops. i like the sound of his drums..

Beyer
06-01-2006, 06:48 AM
I think The Rev is a very under-rated drummer. I must disagree that he is sloppy. I would like to suggest listening to the drum solo in Beast and the Harlot and listen to his rapid drumming in the song Darkness Surrounding. He ties the fast beat of the snare with the double bass very smoothly and he should be recognized by the rapid beat of his snare during their songs, especially Darkness Surrounding.

IRAKdrums
06-04-2006, 07:29 PM
ya seriously johnny christ(the rev) is amzin he def should be on this site

Bernhard
06-04-2006, 08:27 PM
ya seriously johnny christ(the rev) is amzin he def should be on this site

What's his name???

You say Johnny Christ?

I have the name Tholomew Plague in my books.

Or did they change often??

Bernhard

averypoordrummer
06-04-2006, 08:47 PM
ya seriously johnny christ(the rev) is amzin he def should be on this site

actually its jimmy sullivan

wontgetfooledagain
06-04-2006, 09:53 PM
Isn't Johnny Christ the stage name of their bassist?

chops4kicks
06-06-2006, 02:08 AM
Anyway: I happen to think the Reverand is just another Hardcore drummer. I don't feel he has brought anything new to the genre, and I don't think he is that good at hardcore drumming. He doesn't display any knowledge of other types of drumming (like jazz). Plus I think Avenged Sevenfold is the most ridiculous band in existance (who would give themselves stage names like that?)

- Marc

This is the stupidest comment I've seen on this forum. He brings great fills with uniqueness and flare to genre not just constant buzz rolls down the line. And who says you have to know about jazz to be a good hardcore drummer. Roy Haynes is one of the best jazz players out there and i don't see him busting out 32nd note double bass beats, because he plays JAZZ not hardcore. The Rev plays whats good for the genre which most of the time doesn't have anything to do with jazz.

tinker_190
06-06-2006, 08:21 PM
I wanna know where some of you guys saw A7X live, because when I saw them, The Rev didn't even bust out 15-20% of what is on the albums. He simplified all the fills and beats.

masonni
06-06-2006, 09:51 PM
I like the band a lot, and I think this guy is talented, but let him earn his wings. I think he over plays the double bass thing. It doesn't fit every song. And I think he needs to sell a few more platinum records and be a member of the drumming world a while longer before he should be on a site like this.

sloppyn9ne
06-06-2006, 10:16 PM
I find "The Reverand's" drumming to be a little repetitive; I feel the same way about Avenged Sevenfold's songs. I can tell that "The Reverand" is a pretty talented musician, but I cannot really understand what it is that makes everyone feel he is so amazing. I have heard many better drummers of the same style, so really, what is the "X" factor that makes "The Reverand" so great? Your thoughts?

- Marc

well i get that feeling when i hear the snare and that dbl bass and toms and how it goes with the music. i think that they r truley talentd musicainswho know how to make metal really touch the heart. although i get the impression that if they were in the 80's they would be on the glame side.

metalheadeza666
06-06-2006, 10:26 PM
I love the reverend. But if you try to search him on the internet you can find close to nothing on him. and i do think he is an extremly underrated drummer also. i still dont see why people have not taken notice of him. hes amazing. i would love to see some solos of him on here!!!

- John

you're right, the rev is underatted, but please, can we who love his playing not overate him!
A7X are cool, yeah, whoever posted about in "blinded in chains" with the feet rudiments, (sory can't remeber who it was), that bit is cool, it put a smile on my face first time i listened to it. The whole album is really cool. And also whoever posted about the "horrible snare and bass tuning" i like his snare and bass, they help his unique sound, just Vinnie pauls drums helped him with his. It might a bit of a studio/eq thing i don't know.

yeah bernhard, please make a profile for the rev (jimmy sullivan not jhonny christ as i already know someone pointed out earlier, jhonny christ is the bassist)

tambian89
06-11-2006, 08:59 PM
This is the stupidest comment I've seen on this forum. He brings great fills with uniqueness and flare to genre not just constant buzz rolls down the line. And who says you have to know about jazz to be a good hardcore drummer. Roy Haynes is one of the best jazz players out there and i don't see him busting out 32nd note double bass beats, because he plays JAZZ not hardcore. The Rev plays whats good for the genre which most of the time doesn't have anything to do with jazz.

I'd first like to thank you for bashing my comment. As I've mentioned before, Blake Richardson of Between the Buried and Me displays a great knowledge of other types of drumming. I have Alaska, and I have heard City of Evil, and there is no doubt in my mind that Richardson is a better drummer. Although I prefer Between the Buried and Me to Avenged Sevenfold (whom I do not listen to), I am much more impressed with Richardson's ability to to incorporate other styles of music into his own. For example, the song "Laser Speed" by Between the Buried and Me is a Latin composition. I am not comparing The Reverand to any Jazz musicians, nor do I think he should play jazz for Avenged Sevenfold, but he does not bring anything new to Hardcore drumming; he simple rehashes what other Hardcore drummers have already done. Blake Richardson, however, along with Between the Buried and Me, seem to have revolutionized Hardcore.

- Marc

tambian89
06-11-2006, 09:04 PM
I think he over plays the double bass thing. It doesn't fit every song.

I feel the same way. To many metal drummers overuse double bassing. I have found many drum parts by metal drummers which could have been much more interesting without double bassing.

- Marc

Cannons
06-13-2006, 04:53 PM
The only A7X song I've heard is "Bat Country" and I kinda like it, and I think the Rev is pretty good at what he does. I'm not really into Hardcore, never have been, but they're alright. Like some others I don't really like the drum sound (on "Bat Country" anyway, don't know how representative it is of the Rev's sound choices)--snare sound is lost in the mix and the kicks sound kinda "Protooled" to me.

Jake_White
06-18-2006, 09:22 PM
Anyone know where I can find a profile of him?
I want to know what sticks he uses, cymbals, make of kit etc etc etc

I saw Avenged Sevenfold last weekend at Download Festival, he was AMAZING!
Great drummer!

Jake

METAL_DRUMMER
06-19-2006, 11:47 AM
oh god..i hate avenged sevenfold..i think the reverend has gotten just as much recognition as he deserves.

dude even if you hate avenged sevenfold, the guy is a damn good drummer

adrian
06-20-2006, 04:04 AM
Based on "Bat Country" I think this drummer (stage names are the dumbest things in the history of music) is nothing more than a person who can play fast beats on a bass and has bad snare sound. Whatever happened to groove?
Agreed. No tempo.
Um, I'm like, really young and I have more tecnique than him.
Really, really young.

ns3476
06-20-2006, 07:36 PM
When i first listened to bat country i really wasnt interested in his drumming all that much, but now when i listen to beast and the harlot, i think hes a really amazing drummer. His fills sound really good to me.

komodo
06-20-2006, 08:29 PM
Yeah, does anyone know about his set up. Im interested in the snare he uses in particular, i kinda like it even though most dont't

komodo
06-20-2006, 08:35 PM
Think ive discoverd the kit he uses,woo.For those who are interested: Dw Maple Collectors Series Drums, Black to Red Burst; 18x22" Bass; 7x8', 8x10", 9x12", 11x14", and 13x16" Toms (7x8' Tom not used live) 5x14" Pork Pie Snare Black DW Hardware and Pedals Sabian Cymbals (nt sure which yet) Pro Mark Sticks. This may not be 100%reliable obviously.

One more thing....A7X rule!!!

ns3476
06-20-2006, 11:13 PM
Think ive discoverd the kit he uses,woo.For those who are interested: Dw Maple Collectors Series Drums, Black to Red Burst; 18x22" Bass; 7x8', 8x10", 9x12", 11x14", and 13x16" Toms (7x8' Tom not used live) 5x14" Pork Pie Snare Black DW Hardware and Pedals Sabian Cymbals (nt sure which yet) Pro Mark Sticks. This may not be 100%reliable obviously.

One more thing....A7X rule!!!


I think you might be a little off on some of this stuff. He plays a PDP LXE series kit with all maple shells. The color is a charcoal fade. 18x22 bass, 5x14 snare, 8x10, 9x12, 12x14, 7x8, and 14x16 toms. He uses TX5BW promark sticks. And im not sure of his cymbal set up.

Jake_White
06-25-2006, 01:26 PM
Anyone know where I can find any profile or something on the net?
Like a set up pic, info on what he uses (cymbals, sticks, kit) etc etc.

I can't seem to find anything...?

Jake

The Rev #2
06-26-2006, 05:47 AM
Anyone know where I can find any profile or something on the net?
Like a set up pic, info on what he uses (cymbals, sticks, kit) etc etc.

I can't seem to find anything...?

Jake
He uses DW, Promark, Sabian, and Evans. On Sounding The 7th Trumpet he used some blue drumset but i'm not sure what it was. On Waking The Fallen he used a red/black fade DW kit with zildjian cymbals which is my favorite one. And then he had an even different one which i've only seen in the video for Burn It Down but now he uses a Charcoal fade double bass DW kit which I don't like as much but hey it's a nice kit. Plus he uses some Pork Pie..I think he uses a Pork Pie kit in the studio but not sure.

BrynnerAgassi
06-26-2006, 09:33 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?search=the+rev+drum&v=kUYiUXy9DcM

There you guys go, a link to see "The Rev" do his thing....
He is good, not that great live. But guess what the studio can make anyone sound amazing, I love what i hear in the A7X albums, but when i realize some of the stuff is just way too good and never duplicates it live then there is a serious problem.
But all in all he is good, not underratted and i dont think over rated, i just think if you guys watch this clip it will say a lot!

tambian89
06-27-2006, 03:42 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?search=the+rev+drum&v=kUYiUXy9DcM

There you guys go, a link to see "The Rev" do his thing....


Not bad.......I'm still not convinced (I didn't think his durmming on "Bat Country" was al that great to begin with). He can do the metal thing, but he really isn't all that different from the other drummers in his genre (plus he talks like abit of a goon).

I know he's a Sabian guy, but he was using A custom fast crashes; then again, you can't hear cymbal companies in a recording.

- Marc

sloppyn9ne
06-27-2006, 09:52 PM
This is the stupidest comment I've seen on this forum. He brings great fills with uniqueness and flare to genre not just constant buzz rolls down the line. And who says you have to know about jazz to be a good hardcore drummer. Roy Haynes is one of the best jazz players out there and i don't see him busting out 32nd note double bass beats, because he plays JAZZ not hardcore. The Rev plays whats good for the genre which most of the time doesn't have anything to do with jazz.

i have your back on this one. just because you dont like a genre doesnt mean the people that play arent good. understandiong that makes me listen to alot of things and i can appreciate it too.

pimp_my_RIDE
06-27-2006, 11:26 PM
Here is my opinion. I read everysingle post on this thread and it all comes down to what music you listen to. I doubt that a fusion drummer would appreciate the revs drumming, but a metal head would greatly appreciate his apptitude of drumming. I personaly think he is a fantastic drummer, whos main focus seems not to be to beat up a drum set but to keep good time, which he does quite well. This is why I appreciate him. Think of bands like zztop whos drummer kept time like a solid metronome, was he critisised because he didn't play like peart. I think that some people in this thread don't like the rev purely because he dosn't do incredible fills for nearly the song like most metal drummers do.
I can also appreciate A7X for the fact that they can all play their instruement well. That's why rush is so amazing, because they can all play the instruement they play above the norm.

If you do not like the rev though, please back up why with an ansewer other than he isn't as a good as lombardo or kolialas,ect...

finnhiggins
06-27-2006, 11:41 PM
I personaly think he is a fantastic drummer, whos main focus seems not to be to beat up a drum set but to keep good time, which he does quite well.

Yes, but that doesn't exactly make you a fantastic drummer. I can keep good time. Stu can keep good time. The difference between us and actual fantastic drummers - like, say, Gavin Harrison or Billy Ward just to pick two who hang around here - is that they do things above and beyond just keeping good time. They manage to do things which are actually creative and interesting, which I really didn't see any of in that video. All I saw was poor technique and stereotypical metal drumming without any spice or pizazz.

Mediocrefunkybeat
06-27-2006, 11:44 PM
What annoyed me about that clip (and based solely upon that clip) was just the sheer lack of imagination. He did nothing there that Lars Ulrich could and was doing back in the early 80's, which is saying something. The sound was awful and I just got so plain bored with the drumming. Sorry to any A7X fans out there, and I know there are a lot, but I just didn't find that clip remotely interesting.

pimp_my_RIDE
06-27-2006, 11:57 PM
Finn
I know what you mean I was just pointing an important quality in him that makes him good. I say he's good because of this because he does keep time better than alot of drummer. I didn't mean to annoy you. I should've been more direct.

tambian89
07-03-2006, 02:30 AM
Finnhiggins said: "I really, really don't like their (Avenged Sevenfold) drummer's technique -he just hammers away like a basher, almost all of it from the arms rather than wrists. No obvious finesse at all, and from all reports he can't pull off the album parts live either."

I partially agree wih the first part: I'm not so sure of the Reverend's skill, although he has pretty good studio performances based on Waking the Fallen and City of Evil. But I have heard that this guy is not good live. I did not catch them live, but my friend said the Reverend was not good (he is a fan and a drummer), and it played with no "umph" in his perfromance.

- Marc

Conor
07-24-2006, 01:01 AM
Dude, what are you talking about, i love the sound of his drums on bat country. I think the snare sounds amazing and compliments the song perfectly, his drummin is spot on!

MPF
07-26-2006, 06:37 AM
What I've noticed about The Rev is that he has some good chops, but alot of it is triggered.

When I first heard them, I thought he was amazing, then after seeing him actually play, its obvious that hes not doing everything you hear.

I'm not saying he's a bad player by any means, I'm just saying, he won't be the next drum god

Bernhard
08-03-2006, 06:03 PM
Ok friends - finally added on Drummerworld:

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/James_The_Reverend_Sullivan.html

Bernhard

tambian89
08-08-2006, 02:26 AM
I don't like the way he sets up his floor toms; I prefer mine to be parallel to the ground, like my snare.

- Marc

rendezvous_drummer
08-08-2006, 06:53 AM
my band asked me to play beast and the harlot today as our cover for out next gig....I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE ON DOUBLE BASS! He's way too fast for me. horrible snare sound.

BarryBuchanan
08-10-2006, 12:51 AM
I reli dnt like his new set up!!! its just donyt look comfturbul and looks like sthey set it up in a hurry...i liked his single bass set up beta!

Drummer_Dude9164
09-18-2006, 06:06 PM
apparently all of you that say he is a basher dont listen to drums when u listen to music, u just assume. ive spent like the past 2 weeks going through only like 4 songs, probably the ones you guys didnt listen to, and his drumming is AMAZING. listen to The Wicked End, Betrayed, Sidewinder, and Strength of the World. His drumming completely changes, and he is insanely intricate with his style. and for all of you that said the DEP drummer was better, im ashamed of you, because he is just a steriotypical screamo drummer....

JoshRead
09-19-2006, 05:02 AM
I think the Rev is simply fantastic. And for you all that don't like the snare sound, the Rev said that almost all of his snare hits were rimshots, so there you go. I think he's great; he changes up a lot, and is creative. It seems a lot of you disagree, but that's fine. We all have our opinions.

finnhiggins
09-19-2006, 01:13 PM
Seriously, there's whole worlds of drumming between where this guy is and where Chris Pennie is at. Pennie is terrifyingly good, this guy with the stage name appears decidedly average from everything I've seen.

As for the rimshots thing, that goes for most pro drummers since about the early 80s. It's no excuse for an abrasive snare sound - rimshots are an integral part of Vinnie's snare playing for a start. I don't hear people complaining about his sound in the same way.

llamanator
09-23-2006, 09:48 PM
what are drum triggers exactly? dont they just smooth out the sound or am i missing something? He sounds good on all the songs, i like how he doesnt over due the double bass

finnhiggins
09-24-2006, 01:41 AM
what are drum triggers exactly? dont they just smooth out the sound or am i missing something?

Triggers plug into a drum brain, which converts acoustic hits into MIDI events - basically makes it like pressing a key on a MIDI keyboard every time you hit one of your drums. You can then use those events to trigger electronic sounds, usually samples of some description.

In short, triggers make an acoustic kit produce electronic kit sounds. They're good for some things, but a lot of metal drummers use them because they can't achieve sufficient power with their hands or feet so they trigger some stupendously loud sample whenever they tap the drum gently.

Triggers are fine if you have a creative use for them, but if you're just using them as a crutch to make up for your inability to play the instrument they're pretty clearly the suck. Also I'd like to point out that all the people judging this Rev character by his playing on very heavily-produced album tracks are probably barking up the wrong tree. Here's some videos on the kind of stuff that can be done these days with timing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jhVkzFyacM (watch the whole series)

Combine that with the ability to replace drum hits with samples even when you're NOT using triggers and MIDI stuff can be snapped into perfect time with live playing and you have an environment where nearly ANY drummer can sound like a hyper-technical metal god without actually being able to play their instrument. The test of a metal drummer is whether they can play their stuff live, nowadays: the last Meshuggah album didn't even have any live drums on it, it was all programmed.

So if this Rev guy can't pull his parts off live then he just plain can't play them, and he doesn't deserve all the attention he's getting.

ILikeMacs
11-15-2006, 07:37 AM
does the reverand have a real name?

ludwig guy
11-30-2006, 05:28 PM
Great drummer listen to blinded in chains that shows his skill, he deserves to be here and is underated greatly.

Fafarian
12-19-2006, 06:07 PM
My opinion is that the rev is a really great drummer, indeed his snare sucks but he plays so fantastic... yeah maybe he doesn't put nuances like a jazz player but damn, he's a Metal drummer. I don't really like his setup neither, but its more like Iron Maiden's drummer, and it's their biggest influence

And do anyone here listened to him live ? I got twice, and HELL YEAH he reproduce all his tracks like a god ! I mean, there's no lack in his live play, he plays the same way as in studio. The only song that I wanted to hear from them and that they didn't play both time I saw them live, is sidewinder.

BTW, his name is James Sullivan

Shinx
12-23-2006, 09:08 AM
His drumming completely changes, and he is insanely intricate with his style. and for all of you that said the DEP drummer was better, im ashamed of you, because he is just a steriotypical screamo drummer.... I'm sorry, but that is actually offensive to read. Ok I'm kidding but you might want to study up a bit before you say anything like that

Thunderfm
01-18-2007, 02:25 AM
All of you that have talked about his tightness, chops, fitting with the band, obviously haven't done an A-B comparison between the City Of Evil / Waking The Fallen albums, and the Sounding The Seventh Trumpet album.

COE, and WTF are uber engineered, edited and processed which is why his kit sounds as it does and how he plays so tightly with the band, cos a protools engineer has cut the drum tracks up and moved them into place with the rest of the band. As far as I can tell, A7X's budget was slightly smaller on the STST album so we hear them as they are. Loose. Like their playing material too tricky for them. Just listen to the bass drum when it should be in sync with the guitar chugs, or his immense tom fills that dont quite end on the beat.

Dont get me wrong, I have seen them live, and they get most of it right, but as it's been said on previous pages in this thread, most of it is triggered as u can see by the mahoosive rack of samplers, midi processors, etc that sits on his left in the photos.

chump
01-30-2007, 07:04 PM
sullivan is one of my favorite drummers. he's got some serious chops

chump
01-30-2007, 07:07 PM
All of you that have talked about his tightness, chops, fitting with the band, obviously haven't done an A-B comparison between the City Of Evil / Waking The Fallen albums, and the Sounding The Seventh Trumpet album.

COE, and WTF are uber engineered, edited and processed which is why his kit sounds as it does and how he plays so tightly with the band, cos a protools engineer has cut the drum tracks up and moved them into place with the rest of the band. As far as I can tell, A7X's budget was slightly smaller on the STST album so we hear them as they are. Loose. Like their playing material too tricky for them. Just listen to the bass drum when it should be in sync with the guitar chugs, or his immense tom fills that dont quite end on the beat.

Dont get me wrong, I have seen them live, and they get most of it right, but as it's been said on previous pages in this thread, most of it is triggered as u can see by the mahoosive rack of samplers, midi processors, etc that sits on his left in the photos.

thats true but he's gotten MUCH better since then. ive watched a few shows lately and he's playing it all like on the albums.

hawk9290
03-03-2007, 09:08 PM
I think Sullivan is a good drummer, but he overplays sometimes, especially on the earlier albums. He can play well and quite fast, and I'd have to say that he's better than most metal drummers who just play really fast without any technique or creativity. Still, he's not the best in the world by any means. The Rev deserves credit as a great drummer in his area, but there are many drummers out there who are better. Regardless, I wouldn't mind having his skills, though I am more of one for technique and complexity over crowd-stunningness

PineyplayParadiddles
05-14-2007, 09:02 PM
I have to say that I like the revs chops, I never really was into double bass until I heard the rev. His style is unique and although he is not the best drummer out there, I have learnt a lot of double pedal grooves from listening to there songs. Live though they cant really bring it, but if you watch some of their performances, they have a dreadful sound man.

Colin1374
05-15-2007, 02:01 AM
Ok: My opinion hardly matters......how? That's pretty rude of you to say; I did nothing to really attack him or you. Are you saying that because I've been drumming for just over 2 years, I have no right to express my opinion? Send me a person message if you have something against me or something like that.

I have listened to Avenged Sevenfold, and personally I don't like them. I have looked at the drum parts, too. In terms of creativity, everything the Reverand has played has been done before. In fact, Blake Richardson of Between the Buried and Me seems to do a better job than the Reverand does; Richardson is able to play in not only a more appealing manner, but has a better sense of grooves, as they are far more interesting.

Of course I realize a person can do whatever they want; I myself do it in my own band. I just think that the Reverand doesn't seem to incorporate other styles into his drumming, and his so-called "grooves" have been done before (listen to ...And Justice For All by Metallica, whom "A7X" cites as one of their main influences). Instead of attempting to encompass a wide array of styles, he sticks to typical hardcore grooves. I hardly consider him a bad drummer - he plays his style well - but I feel he gets far too much recognition, and is highly over-rated. His drumming is good, however, it is not a superior as everyone views it; he isn't that good where he deserves this recognition. When he can bring something new to Hardcore music (which Blake Richardson has done), then I will consider as great as everyone else seems to consider him until then, I don't.

- Marc

^ I read all these replies you people were posting until I got here, I stopped after this guy's post because he basically sums up what I totally agree with. He brings nothing creative to the whole genre, he get's stuff done, he is good but not great.

Eye of the Beholder
08-04-2007, 09:55 AM
I personally find his drumming interesting, but he is not that great of a drummer. some of his fills sound pretty badass though

WannaRock1254
11-07-2007, 02:21 AM
the rev really inspired me to pick up a pair of drum sticks. i wanna be able to play like him, but its hard (for me).

Jason Dorn
12-27-2007, 03:17 AM
I really dig this Band they are heavy but they also have great melody and a bit of a pop edge. His setup looks so uncomfortable but I love his playing. In learning these songs theyre not that complicated but they are fast and physically demanding. They fit perfect in this band. So I think they are my favorite newer band but I will reserve final judgement untill I see them live 3/10.

the.rev
04-28-2008, 01:39 AM
the dude is awsome! iv seen them live they are gr8 the jimmy sings wickid aswell as play well live too

he plays most of the songs one handed live and is compltely awsome

the only critasizum i have of him is if he is playin most of his songs one handed he aint showin us what he has got hes showin wt i show off he is so in newer albums he needs 2 step up his drumming and show us what he has really got

but yh the dude rocks

Drum-Head
04-28-2008, 02:48 AM
I'm no big fan of A7X, but I must admit that Sullivan impresses me - from what I've seen live - with his clean and tight playing. He's a good drummer and gets the job done well.

the.rev
05-01-2008, 02:00 PM
does the reverand have a real name?


james (jimmy) sullivan

Mr. Pasquini
05-01-2008, 02:31 PM
I can't really find anything that impresses me about him, not bad but not as astounding as everyone makes him out to be, maybe I'd like him more if he didn't look absurd or if he played in a band that I could enjoy...

gusty
05-01-2008, 04:11 PM
the rev really inspired me to pick up a pair of drum sticks. i wanna be able to play like him, but its hard (for me).

It's hard for most drummers, 'the reverend' is pretty good, pretty tight, no matter what you think of his band.

ihitdrumz
05-20-2008, 06:31 PM
Finally a board about the Rev!
Avenged Sevenfold are my favourite band, and personally I think he is an amazing drummer. Not the best out there, but definately a very good drummer. He has great creativity and what he plays fits into the songs perfectly.

fallen6661
05-20-2008, 08:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zskDeJajB20&fmt=18

3:43 is the drum solo..


and those of you saying he doesn't have any jazz influence....listen to 'almost easy'..


being influenced by mike portnoy and vinnie paul has really made him become a great drummer...

Horizonchaser
06-09-2008, 09:19 PM
The drumming on Bat Country is just amazing

Seems your perception of 'amazing' differs from mine quite drastically. There are tonnes of young drummers on Youtube covering that song, and if they can all do it then I doubt the drum part is that special.

=D

xerandin
06-10-2008, 08:29 AM
Okay, first of all, unless your name is Jason Bittner, shut the hell up, because nothing you can play can touch the skill that the Rev has...is he the best? no, he's not the best. In case you haven't noticed, the best musicians aren't in kickass band like Avenged Sevenfold (take Michael Angelo Batio for instance, he's insanely good, but his music is literally all shred, no composition).

secondly...take it from someone who actually knows how to tune drums (and plays them as well)...
every drummer i know has been trying to get their snare to sound like The Rev's ever since Bat Country debuted...it's freakin crisp, and dry, and everything else beautiful about an awesome snare drum.

The Rev has excellent chops, technique, visual performance skills, variety, and FEEL...listen to songs like sidewinder, City of Evil was a GREAT album, with the Self-Titled album being even stronger)

reply with whatever insults or baseless opinions you have, i'd love to hear them.

MentalFiction
06-16-2008, 05:15 AM
Seems your perception of 'amazing' differs from mine quite drastically. There are tonnes of young drummers on Youtube covering that song, and if they can all do it then I doubt the drum part is that special.

=D

Sure, they're trying, and failing miserably.

Anyway, I think the Rev is a great drummer. He's not one of those drummers that tries to show off how good he is by playing the most complicated thing he can play for every fill, even though he could. He chooses a fill that fits with the music and I respect that. You can tell by listening to Avenged Sevenfold that he's the most talented member of the band.

Here's a link of him recording some songs on City of Evil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-8E6AWnh18

The first part is Betrayed, then Bat Country.

Oh, and here's a clip of him recording Almost Easy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9fqEsVc4r8

Maybe not too impressive, but you can tell he's not trying very hard.

Also, I'm new here and this is my first post on these forums. Hi everybody!