Sabian HH Vintage ride?

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Saw this great offer on a used Sabian HH 21" Vintage ride, never heard of this one before, but the soundclip on Sabians site sounds great, and it seems to have exactly what I'm looking for in a ride, dry body without much sustain, but with a killer cutting bell. Anyone heard anything about this one?

[rendezvous_drummer]

I love this ride and will be buying one within the next couple months. The ride is sooo versatile as well as great sounding. You can use it in Jazz, Rock, Funk...anything. I say go for it buddy. How much can you get it fer? I'm buying one for 280.

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Thanks for the answer! Yeah, it really sounds like it can be used for everything, and I'm building up a versatile setup :)

I can get it for exactly 284,12 USD (I live in Norway, 1700 NOK), so you got a better deal, but then again the prizes here are so stiff, I will have to pay 658 USD for it new, so I really get a great deal, if the seller hasnt sold it yet.

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No more inputs? I heard that Martin Lopez used this on their Lamentations dvd.

[mofle]

Gå mann, gå! Bra deal!

[gcarlet]

I say go for it, especially if you can get it for such a good deal. I like the sound of it and am heavily considering purchasing one myself.

[jazzgregg]

Saw this great offer on a used Sabian HH 21" Vintage ride, never heard of this one before, but the soundclip on Sabians site sounds great, and it seems to have exactly what I'm looking for in a ride, dry body without much sustain, but with a killer cutting bell. Anyone heard anything about this one?

I used one for a few years (mostly louder Jazz) and really dug it. It is pretty versatile, as you mentioned. I'd say go for it, without question.

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Cool! But some guuys said that it had lots of wash...is this true?

[jazzgregg]

Cool! But some guuys said that it had lots of wash...is this true?

How hard are you going to hit it?=) Plus, there is always tape.

G

[KCMcC]

Wash can be good! If it's a good cymbal it can put out a big underlying wash, and you can still hear the time playing above that. Definition and dryness can coexist with wash. It's strange and maybe a little oxymoronically mystical, but true.

Don't be afraid of a little noise.

It's like the Miller High Life commercial from two or three years back, where the mechanic gets a little axle grease on his donut, and eats it anyway as the narrator intones "that's just flavor: You're a High Life Man."

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I am a metal drummer, but I want this one for a versatile setup, so I wont hit it very hard, it has some stick definition too? The hits wont get lost in the wash?

[KCMcC]

I am a metal drummer, but I want this one for a versatile setup, so I wont hit it very hard, it has some stick definition too? The hits wont get lost in the wash?

Depends on the cymbal!

Seriously there are some very washy cymbals that still retain their stick definition as a strong sound seperated from the wash. I assume that you already have a tight, high pitched, pingy or bellish ride cymbal for your metal playing? So first and foremost, you want something different, right? If you're looking for something for sort of general rock playing you want some wash. I could give you plenty of examples of VERY washy ride cymbals that work well in a rock setting, but that's admittedly a little unusual. What you don't want is something that's antiseptic and overly "tight" either, especially if you are looking for versatile, and especially if you already have a really tight sounding ride.

I was trying to link to some samples of Steve Jordans playing on a couple recent albums where he is playing a ride that has a ton of wash, but a good defined "stick sound" as well, and there is enough seperation between the two that the stick stands out, but there is also that underlying body of sound that makes the ride work so well as support for soloists (you could say that the wash is what they are "riding" on, but that isnt' really where the name came from I guess). Take a look at a guitar players face during their solo when you kick on a really sweet ride after switching from the high-hats!

Keep in mind I'm prejudiced though: a big portion of the years I spent away from the drums fbefore my recent return was spent listening to Jazz (Tons of washy rides, but you can ALWAYS hear the spang-spangalang when it matters) and the Allman Brothers (2 drummers, often both playing rides - that's alot of wash!). I'm not really trying to convince you to buy a washy ride if that's not the sound your looking for, I just like to provide a counter-opinion and get folks to think about stuff they maybe hadn't considered.

EDIT: Plus if you buy it and don't like it, I've got an AAX 22" Metal Ride I was about to put on the market, and I'll trade you straight up! (I'm kidding . . . mostly)

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Hey thanks for that post, veyr helpful! I have a paiste signature 22" power ride for my metal setup :)

I guess wash isnt so bad after all, but I really cant decide before I have tried the cymbal myself, but thanks again for the tips!

[KCMcC]

Like I said, I just like putting out a different point of view sometimes, not purely for the sake of being different, but for the sake of putting out a valid but unusual take. More than two ways to skin a cat (maybe a bad choice of metaphors, I may have just accidentally gotten myself involved in the "vegetarianism" debate from the off topic lounge!)

[Thunderstix]

Saw this great offer on a used Sabian HH 21" Vintage ride, never heard of this one before, but the soundclip on Sabians site sounds great, and it seems to have exactly what I'm looking for in a ride, dry body without much sustain, but with a killer cutting bell. Anyone heard anything about this one?

It's medium-thin, how dry can it be?

Sounds close to a groove ride. Is it washier or dryer?

[thtst]

Apologies for chiming in late. If you mean vintage as in the mid 80's, i seem to recall owning one. Was very $$$ back in the day, and this is when cymbals even of the same type/spec sounded different. Fortunately the store had a few and bought one that best matched my preference. It was indeed a jewel and provided years of great playing until that set was sold.

[Adam8]

It's a great cymbal. I believe Sammy Watson uses this ride. A floor model that looked new went on ebay for like BIN $200 not long ago. I almost bought it, but already have a similar ride. Ben Gillies of Silverchair also uses it on the Diorama album and Newcastle DVD. Also, Jose Pasillas used it as a ride on Make Yourself, but now as a crash so it's versatile.