View Full Version : Pearl Eliminator Cam Color?
ross--
02-01-2007, 01:25 AM
For all the Eliminator fans out there what cam color do you use? I am switching back and forth because I liked black but the dog ate one so now I have to experiment.
jollymosher
02-01-2007, 01:49 AM
YAY BLUE!
Its responsive, but not out of control like the red.
Pearl Player
02-01-2007, 01:55 AM
Vote Number 2 for
BLUE
LayinDown
02-01-2007, 02:00 AM
Red. With that in mind, I only tried the others out briefly when I first got the pedal about a month ago. Now I'm inclined to to some heavy experimenting! Good topic...one I was just curious about last night actually.
emmerson
02-01-2007, 02:12 AM
WHITE = smooth sailing.
SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ
02-01-2007, 02:27 AM
I was originally going to get a DW5002 but I think I'm going to get the Eliminators instead.
yzf125
02-01-2007, 12:29 PM
I was originally going to get a DW5002 but I think I'm going to get the Eliminators instead.
Smart choice , You wont go wrong as i tried the Eliminator head to head with the DW9000 and i picked the Pearl !!
Oh yeah, Blue is my choice
TitanSound
02-01-2007, 12:59 PM
Red at the mo...but its been feeling kind of wierd lately. I am going to test the others out over the next few weeks.
Jay.B.
02-01-2007, 02:04 PM
I have tried 4 of them, I think that's all there is, the white (I think) is redundant to me straight away, I'm after a different feel to the pedal, not just a straight smooth cam, I have a similar feel on my pedal at the moment, although maybe not quite as smooth as the eliminator, the blue and red offer a more responsive feel to me, will have to have a play when I get mine, might just have to leave the new crash for a while and get the pedal instead :-)
jollymosher
02-13-2007, 02:23 AM
Blue is still the best for me. I love my pearl pedal. i dont like the Dw pedals. I would pick pearl over them easy.
Dude, some one makes a pack that has 3 more cams in it... 3 different kinds of cams yet... cool beans huh?
ross--
02-14-2007, 01:44 AM
Who makes a pack of three more cams?
jollymosher
02-14-2007, 03:14 AM
im not sure, but i can prove the exsist.
http://www.rockinn.co.jp/shopping/drum/drum_pedal3.html
http://www.massmusic.net/pearlmasters.html
give it a good scroll down on both.
mikei
02-28-2007, 05:07 AM
I just spent 4 hours carefully checking the cams on my 2 eliminator pedals. I have a double bass set up, so I played for a while with each.
White is by far my favorite. Smooth, very powerful and consistant. Then it was black, blue and finally red.
However, I have been playing with the white for a 2 years now. So, I was pretty used to them and might have a bias.
Mike
toxegendrummer
02-28-2007, 11:22 AM
Blue is by far my favourite....i cant hold a steady beat with the reds...they are way to fast lol...at least the blues feel a bit more like you can actually play them
nhzoso
02-28-2007, 01:57 PM
I have not changed from the black one that came on it when I opened the box. It is such an improvement over my old pedal that I don't feel the need to change it.
I will experiment sometime down the road though but for now BLACK is my choice.
frank0072
02-28-2007, 02:06 PM
I have played blue and red, and I currently play red. This is because the beater is still of the head when I have my foot on the pedal, and with the blue it isn't I think. But I might be wrong. So I will try this afternoon...
ross--
03-06-2007, 06:39 PM
I took off my cams and played without them for a little bit and it seemed fairly comfortable then I put the blue ones on and finished band practice. Anyone play without cams??
tommapex
03-06-2007, 07:06 PM
I've tried black, red, and blue. I like the feel of the blue cams the most.
I tried them all, but have the blue on it now. Its working pretty good so far.
Holomorph
05-04-2007, 03:54 AM
I quite like the blue, but I also use the black and white from time to time, they all feel pretty good!
hook & lateral
05-16-2007, 09:05 PM
I took off my cams and played without them for a little bit and it seemed fairly comfortable then I put the blue ones on and finished band practice. Anyone play without cams??
I'm fairly certain the owner's manual tells you not to play without the cams...
d.c.drummer
05-17-2007, 12:53 AM
Red baby. Speed and POWER!! MWUAHAHAHAHA!!
tamadrummer132
05-17-2007, 01:05 AM
whats a cam?
20202020
MoeDrummer
05-18-2007, 01:45 PM
I used the white on my double when I first started playing on it, but now I'm using red, which leaves a little less room for error, but I like the feel a lot more.
nhzoso
05-21-2007, 05:11 AM
I replaced the black with the blue last week and like it much, much better. Think I will stick with it for awhile.
fusssion
05-24-2007, 05:26 PM
wow, i've been considering going to a single pedal, and it looks like i should attempt to try this out....looks like the blue cam is winning too!
This the "Power Shifter" ...correct? Pearls website is HORRIFIC!! So,...its' tough to determine what is going on......
help
fourstringdrums
05-24-2007, 06:25 PM
wow, i've been considering going to a single pedal, and it looks like i should attempt to try this out....looks like the blue cam is winning too!
This the "Power Shifter" ...correct? Pearls website is HORRIFIC!! So,...its' tough to determine what is going on......
help
No this is the elminator. You can move the heel plate forward and backward like on the powershifter, but the elminator has interchangeable cams.
I use the blue one as well. So far it's working pretty well, I haven't wanted to change to another yet. I was using the red before and I felt like I didn't have much control. I may try the white or black again just to see what they're like.
bfrancese
05-24-2007, 07:15 PM
i shatter two eliminator pedals - the screw where the chain connects to the pedal - the connector that is attached to the pedal basically exploded on me twice
i had my pedal for about 5 years when it did this- wont buy again for sure
but it played well, and i used the WHITE ones
fourstringdrums
05-24-2007, 08:19 PM
i shatter two eliminator pedals - the screw where the chain connects to the pedal - the connector that is attached to the pedal basically exploded on me twice
i had my pedal for about 5 years when it did this- wont buy again for sure
but it played well, and i used the WHITE ones
You mean the part that connects the strap to the cam holder? To me, that is the only flaw about the Elinator. I've never broken one, but adjusting the footboard angle with it is a royal pain.
Solaris
05-31-2007, 06:46 AM
I have the double pedal version and use the blue on the right and the red on the left. Strange I know but it works for me.
iamtak
06-02-2007, 08:23 AM
are the differences in cams something like the differenecs between the DW5000 turbo and accelerator pedals?
I've got a 5000 accelerator and i feel like i have more control and a more consistant feel with my friends DW7000's. What gives? are those cams more like the turbo?
Solaris
06-03-2007, 06:22 AM
Yeah pretty much. The accelerator is like the blue cam, and the turbo like the black no?
iamtak
06-03-2007, 08:15 AM
Yeah pretty much. The accelerator is like the blue cam, and the turbo like the black no?
can someone give a description of each cam from Pearl? and perhaps an explanation for the differences in feel in terms of the mechanics of the system?
DrumGod
06-04-2007, 09:49 PM
can someone give a description of each cam from Pearl? and perhaps an explanation for the differences in feel in terms of the mechanics of the system?
Was just about to ask that
georgeman
06-18-2007, 03:20 AM
whats a cam?
20202020
yes...plz help us out here
what is a cam???
-george
Terry B.
06-19-2007, 08:40 AM
I like the purple cam the best so far. The red is surprisingly good for lower volumes. The yellow is like an extreme version of the white. I really like those purple cams though. They came with some beater counter weights that feel cool as well.
TitanSound
06-19-2007, 09:51 AM
From the Pearl website:
Interchangeable Cam System
The interchangeable cam system features four uniquely shaped cams. The Black Cam is Pearl’s original linear-feel cam for smooth, well-balanced action. The White Cam is also linear but larger in diameter for a lighter feel and increased power. The Blue cam is offset and starts with a light feel at the beginning of the stroke and accelerates with speed and power upon impact. The Red cam is radically offset and provides great response for sensitive footwork and extreme power upon impact. Two other cams are available for purchase separately: the Purple CAMPL and the Yellow CAMYL Cams. The Purple Cam has a feel that is in between the Blue and Red cams while the Yellow Cam has a unique "top heavy" feel that generates the most power of all the cams. All cams attach and detach easily at the push of a button.
The cam is the part which the chain travels over to get to the bottom of the footboard.
-tarek-
06-19-2007, 08:02 PM
I use the blue cams, looks like that's the trend going on here haha, but I'd love to try the purple and yellow ones. Didn't know they exist until 3 minutes ago. The Eliminators are great, but mine are all messed up. I need to take them completely apart and grease them and reassemble because my slave pedal is really squeeky and rigid and both have a lot of footboard play. I think I got the bad batch. Hopefully they're fixable.
aruration
06-22-2007, 08:19 AM
is the eliminator pedal long enough to be able to perform the heel toe technique?
aruration
06-22-2007, 08:22 AM
is the eliminator pedal long enough so that the player will be able to perform the heel toe technique?
frank0072
06-22-2007, 08:41 AM
is the eliminator pedal long enough so that the player will be able to perform the heel toe technique?
Well, I never had anyone explain to me properly how heel-toe is performed in real life, so I sometimes just do something what I think is heel-toe, but I find the footboard not quite long enough. But, that might just be my technique, because I don't really master the heel-toe method.
Vintagedrummer
06-25-2007, 07:47 PM
For all the Eliminator fans out there what cam color do you use? I am switching back and forth because I liked black but the dog ate one so now I have to experiment.
Just wait a couple of days....
CASP3Rdrummer
07-25-2007, 06:42 PM
i just got a double pedal eliminator and after 2 hours i'm going with the red ones. the rest are too stiff even when the spring tension is very loose!
Acronomic
08-02-2007, 04:14 PM
I'm using the red ones... but I'm going to try white and blue soon. I just can't do double bass at the same speeds I was doing when I had cheaper Ludwig pedals.
Gretschdrummer
08-03-2007, 06:35 PM
blue. i was using red when i first got the pedal but it didn't feel as good as blue..
tommapex
08-16-2007, 08:34 PM
I've tried the black, red, and blue on all on my pedals (Double bass, HH, and remote HH). My favorite is the blue.
thumper
08-16-2007, 11:42 PM
I just picked up my Eliminator 2000C chain drive last week, and am amazed at all the different "tweaks" that can be done to it. I have been trying it out on a limited basis, due to the fact that I live in a townhome, and don't want to be evicted, but I think I am leaning towards the white cam. I tend to play heel up, and I find that the batter doesn't seem to rest against the head on the downstroke, like it did with my stock Yamaha pedal.
I will have to wait until band practice (in a few weeks) to find out what setting and cam is right for me for sure, but I am very impressed with this pedal!!!!
kasper92
08-25-2007, 09:52 AM
i just brought a new pearl eliminator 2002b.
iv never played double bass but my left foots pretty fast (im a lefty)
what can should i learn with till i get of the ground etc.
aydee
08-25-2007, 11:58 AM
i just brought a new pearl eliminator 2002b.
iv never played double bass but my left foots pretty fast (im a lefty)
what can should i learn with till i get of the ground etc.
the regular black cams. Bernhard has posted some double bass exercise videos which you can look up on the forum
a58chevy
08-26-2007, 08:28 AM
it's all about the reds for speed baby!!!!!
rutherythm
09-05-2007, 10:05 PM
iron cobra or pearl elimanator?!!!i have to choose, one, is the elliminator worth it?
cam98custom
01-02-2008, 03:46 PM
Where do you find the other cams? (purple, Yellow, etc...)
Oh yea...... Red's for me!!!
Late Bloomer
01-02-2008, 04:05 PM
is the eliminator pedal long enough so that the player will be able to perform the heel toe technique?
The reason I bought a Pearl Eliminator was because they ARE easy to do heel/toe on. Mind you I have fairly large feet so play in socks. As far as cams go, I have tried the 4 that come with it and seem to have settled on the white atm.
KarlCrafton
01-02-2008, 06:30 PM
I love the Eliminator pedal!
After trying them all, I settled on the Red cam.
I like the quick, but sturdy feel of it.
It's a lot like the old strap drive feel, but ballsier.
I tried the White one for a little while recently, and that was nice, but switched it back to the Red one.
I kinda have mine set-up weird though.
Since I like the footboard more angled, and the beater in a "normal" spot, I took out the small screws and put them back in the chain one spot higher to raise the FB, and keep the beater in the right spot.
It hasn't seemed to affect the screws or the chain one bit, as it's been like that for about 4 years.
I have 2 Eliminators set up the same way.
I also use the old style DW plastic side beater.
The newer ones are more square by the felt, and, I don't know, I heard a difference and didn't like it, so I bought the 4 remaining more angled "old" ones the store had.
I also put the small "weight" thingy under the beater head.
Might all seem a little "quirky", but all I know is my bass drum always sounds freakin' awesome (even Simon Phillips said so!).
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h257/KarlCrafton/Pedal.jpg
LayinDown
05-26-2008, 11:09 PM
wondering if there's anyone new to the wolrd of eliminators? I have recently gone from red to blue to black, haha. i think i may throw on thew whites this week and see if i like it. when my spring tension is tighter, i favor the blue or red. when i loosen up the tension, the black is butter.
Pelouse
05-27-2008, 08:52 AM
Black and sometimes when i play more aggresive stuff i take the blue one
klopee
06-17-2008, 10:04 PM
i JUST got mine like a month ago... started on black, for about 5 minutes, then moved red for a fcew weeks, then a few days ago i went to blue and was amazed by how much better they felt.
crazyhands520
06-23-2008, 06:50 PM
I like the blue or the red cam for most of my playing. Both are super smooth and responsive, but with fast footwork (like bonham triplets) the red seems to get me the best playability.
asht89
06-26-2008, 10:08 AM
BLUE is my favourite at the moment, but always experimenting
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