Pearl Eliminator Cam Color?

[ross--]

For all the Eliminator fans out there what cam color do you use? I am switching back and forth because I liked black but the dog ate one so now I have to experiment.

[jollymosher]

YAY BLUE!

Its responsive, but not out of control like the red.

[Pearl Player]

Vote Number 2 for
BLUE

[LayinDown]

Red. With that in mind, I only tried the others out briefly when I first got the pedal about a month ago. Now I'm inclined to to some heavy experimenting! Good topic...one I was just curious about last night actually.

[emmerson]

WHITE = smooth sailing.

[SLEEPY BRiGHT EYEZ]

I was originally going to get a DW5002 but I think I'm going to get the Eliminators instead.

[yzf125]

I was originally going to get a DW5002 but I think I'm going to get the Eliminators instead.

Smart choice , You wont go wrong as i tried the Eliminator head to head with the DW9000 and i picked the Pearl !!

Oh yeah, Blue is my choice

[TitanSound]

Red at the mo...but its been feeling kind of wierd lately. I am going to test the others out over the next few weeks.

[Jay.B.]

I have tried 4 of them, I think that's all there is, the white (I think) is redundant to me straight away, I'm after a different feel to the pedal, not just a straight smooth cam, I have a similar feel on my pedal at the moment, although maybe not quite as smooth as the eliminator, the blue and red offer a more responsive feel to me, will have to have a play when I get mine, might just have to leave the new crash for a while and get the pedal instead :-)

[jollymosher]

Blue is still the best for me. I love my pearl pedal. i dont like the Dw pedals. I would pick pearl over them easy.

Dude, some one makes a pack that has 3 more cams in it... 3 different kinds of cams yet... cool beans huh?

[ross--]

Who makes a pack of three more cams?

[jollymosher]

im not sure, but i can prove the exsist.


http://www.rockinn.co.jp/shopping/drum/drum_pedal3.html


http://www.massmusic.net/pearlmasters.html


give it a good scroll down on both.

[mikei]

I just spent 4 hours carefully checking the cams on my 2 eliminator pedals. I have a double bass set up, so I played for a while with each.

White is by far my favorite. Smooth, very powerful and consistant. Then it was black, blue and finally red.

However, I have been playing with the white for a 2 years now. So, I was pretty used to them and might have a bias.

Mike

[toxegendrummer]

Blue is by far my favourite....i cant hold a steady beat with the reds...they are way to fast lol...at least the blues feel a bit more like you can actually play them

[nhzoso]

I have not changed from the black one that came on it when I opened the box. It is such an improvement over my old pedal that I don't feel the need to change it.

I will experiment sometime down the road though but for now BLACK is my choice.

[frank0072]

I have played blue and red, and I currently play red. This is because the beater is still of the head when I have my foot on the pedal, and with the blue it isn't I think. But I might be wrong. So I will try this afternoon...

[ross--]

I took off my cams and played without them for a little bit and it seemed fairly comfortable then I put the blue ones on and finished band practice. Anyone play without cams??

[tommapex]

I've tried black, red, and blue. I like the feel of the blue cams the most.

[dea]

I tried them all, but have the blue on it now. Its working pretty good so far.

[Holomorph]

I quite like the blue, but I also use the black and white from time to time, they all feel pretty good!

[hook & lateral]

I took off my cams and played without them for a little bit and it seemed fairly comfortable then I put the blue ones on and finished band practice. Anyone play without cams??

I'm fairly certain the owner's manual tells you not to play without the cams...

[d.c.drummer]

Red baby. Speed and POWER!! MWUAHAHAHAHA!!

[tamadrummer132]

whats a cam?

20202020

[MoeDrummer]

I used the white on my double when I first started playing on it, but now I'm using red, which leaves a little less room for error, but I like the feel a lot more.

[nhzoso]

I replaced the black with the blue last week and like it much, much better. Think I will stick with it for awhile.

[fusssion]

wow, i've been considering going to a single pedal, and it looks like i should attempt to try this out....looks like the blue cam is winning too!

This the "Power Shifter" ...correct? Pearls website is HORRIFIC!! So,...its' tough to determine what is going on......

help

[fourstringdrums]

wow, i've been considering going to a single pedal, and it looks like i should attempt to try this out....looks like the blue cam is winning too!

This the "Power Shifter" ...correct? Pearls website is HORRIFIC!! So,...its' tough to determine what is going on......

help

No this is the elminator. You can move the heel plate forward and backward like on the powershifter, but the elminator has interchangeable cams.

I use the blue one as well. So far it's working pretty well, I haven't wanted to change to another yet. I was using the red before and I felt like I didn't have much control. I may try the white or black again just to see what they're like.

[bfrancese]

i shatter two eliminator pedals - the screw where the chain connects to the pedal - the connector that is attached to the pedal basically exploded on me twice

i had my pedal for about 5 years when it did this- wont buy again for sure

but it played well, and i used the WHITE ones

[fourstringdrums]

i shatter two eliminator pedals - the screw where the chain connects to the pedal - the connector that is attached to the pedal basically exploded on me twice

i had my pedal for about 5 years when it did this- wont buy again for sure

but it played well, and i used the WHITE ones

You mean the part that connects the strap to the cam holder? To me, that is the only flaw about the Elinator. I've never broken one, but adjusting the footboard angle with it is a royal pain.

[Solaris]

I have the double pedal version and use the blue on the right and the red on the left. Strange I know but it works for me.

[iamtak]

are the differences in cams something like the differenecs between the DW5000 turbo and accelerator pedals?

I've got a 5000 accelerator and i feel like i have more control and a more consistant feel with my friends DW7000's. What gives? are those cams more like the turbo?

[Solaris]

Yeah pretty much. The accelerator is like the blue cam, and the turbo like the black no?

[iamtak]

Yeah pretty much. The accelerator is like the blue cam, and the turbo like the black no?

can someone give a description of each cam from Pearl? and perhaps an explanation for the differences in feel in terms of the mechanics of the system?

[dea]

Blue is my favorite.

[DrumGod]

can someone give a description of each cam from Pearl? and perhaps an explanation for the differences in feel in terms of the mechanics of the system?

Was just about to ask that

[georgeman]

whats a cam?

20202020

yes...plz help us out here

what is a cam???


-george

[Terry B.]

I like the purple cam the best so far. The red is surprisingly good for lower volumes. The yellow is like an extreme version of the white. I really like those purple cams though. They came with some beater counter weights that feel cool as well.

[TitanSound]

From the Pearl website:

Interchangeable Cam System
The interchangeable cam system features four uniquely shaped cams. The Black Cam is Pearl’s original linear-feel cam for smooth, well-balanced action. The White Cam is also linear but larger in diameter for a lighter feel and increased power. The Blue cam is offset and starts with a light feel at the beginning of the stroke and accelerates with speed and power upon impact. The Red cam is radically offset and provides great response for sensitive footwork and extreme power upon impact. Two other cams are available for purchase separately: the Purple CAMPL and the Yellow CAMYL Cams. The Purple Cam has a feel that is in between the Blue and Red cams while the Yellow Cam has a unique "top heavy" feel that generates the most power of all the cams. All cams attach and detach easily at the push of a button.

The cam is the part which the chain travels over to get to the bottom of the footboard.

[-tarek-]

I use the blue cams, looks like that's the trend going on here haha, but I'd love to try the purple and yellow ones. Didn't know they exist until 3 minutes ago. The Eliminators are great, but mine are all messed up. I need to take them completely apart and grease them and reassemble because my slave pedal is really squeeky and rigid and both have a lot of footboard play. I think I got the bad batch. Hopefully they're fixable.

[aruration]

is the eliminator pedal long enough to be able to perform the heel toe technique?

[aruration]

is the eliminator pedal long enough so that the player will be able to perform the heel toe technique?

[frank0072]

is the eliminator pedal long enough so that the player will be able to perform the heel toe technique?

Well, I never had anyone explain to me properly how heel-toe is performed in real life, so I sometimes just do something what I think is heel-toe, but I find the footboard not quite long enough. But, that might just be my technique, because I don't really master the heel-toe method.

[Vintagedrummer]

For all the Eliminator fans out there what cam color do you use? I am switching back and forth because I liked black but the dog ate one so now I have to experiment.

Just wait a couple of days....

[CASP3Rdrummer]

i just got a double pedal eliminator and after 2 hours i'm going with the red ones. the rest are too stiff even when the spring tension is very loose!

[Acronomic]

I'm using the red ones... but I'm going to try white and blue soon. I just can't do double bass at the same speeds I was doing when I had cheaper Ludwig pedals.

[Gretschdrummer]

blue. i was using red when i first got the pedal but it didn't feel as good as blue..

[tommapex]

I've tried the black, red, and blue on all on my pedals (Double bass, HH, and remote HH). My favorite is the blue.

[thumper]

I just picked up my Eliminator 2000C chain drive last week, and am amazed at all the different "tweaks" that can be done to it. I have been trying it out on a limited basis, due to the fact that I live in a townhome, and don't want to be evicted, but I think I am leaning towards the white cam. I tend to play heel up, and I find that the batter doesn't seem to rest against the head on the downstroke, like it did with my stock Yamaha pedal.
I will have to wait until band practice (in a few weeks) to find out what setting and cam is right for me for sure, but I am very impressed with this pedal!!!!

[kasper92]

i just brought a new pearl eliminator 2002b.
iv never played double bass but my left foots pretty fast (im a lefty)
what can should i learn with till i get of the ground etc.

[aydee]

i just brought a new pearl eliminator 2002b.
iv never played double bass but my left foots pretty fast (im a lefty)
what can should i learn with till i get of the ground etc.

the regular black cams. Bernhard has posted some double bass exercise videos which you can look up on the forum

[a58chevy]

it's all about the reds for speed baby!!!!!

[rutherythm]

iron cobra or pearl elimanator?!!!i have to choose, one, is the elliminator worth it?

[cam98custom]

Where do you find the other cams? (purple, Yellow, etc...)

Oh yea...... Red's for me!!!

[Late Bloomer]

is the eliminator pedal long enough so that the player will be able to perform the heel toe technique?


The reason I bought a Pearl Eliminator was because they ARE easy to do heel/toe on. Mind you I have fairly large feet so play in socks. As far as cams go, I have tried the 4 that come with it and seem to have settled on the white atm.

[KarlCrafton]

I love the Eliminator pedal!

After trying them all, I settled on the Red cam.

I like the quick, but sturdy feel of it.

It's a lot like the old strap drive feel, but ballsier.

I tried the White one for a little while recently, and that was nice, but switched it back to the Red one.

I kinda have mine set-up weird though.

Since I like the footboard more angled, and the beater in a "normal" spot, I took out the small screws and put them back in the chain one spot higher to raise the FB, and keep the beater in the right spot.

It hasn't seemed to affect the screws or the chain one bit, as it's been like that for about 4 years.
I have 2 Eliminators set up the same way.

I also use the old style DW plastic side beater.

The newer ones are more square by the felt, and, I don't know, I heard a difference and didn't like it, so I bought the 4 remaining more angled "old" ones the store had.

I also put the small "weight" thingy under the beater head.

Might all seem a little "quirky", but all I know is my bass drum always sounds freakin' awesome (even Simon Phillips said so!).

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h257/KarlCrafton/Pedal.jpg

[LayinDown]

wondering if there's anyone new to the wolrd of eliminators? I have recently gone from red to blue to black, haha. i think i may throw on thew whites this week and see if i like it. when my spring tension is tighter, i favor the blue or red. when i loosen up the tension, the black is butter.

[Pelouse]

Black and sometimes when i play more aggresive stuff i take the blue one

[klopee]

i JUST got mine like a month ago... started on black, for about 5 minutes, then moved red for a fcew weeks, then a few days ago i went to blue and was amazed by how much better they felt.

[crazyhands520]

I like the blue or the red cam for most of my playing. Both are super smooth and responsive, but with fast footwork (like bonham triplets) the red seems to get me the best playability.

[asht89]

BLUE is my favourite at the moment, but always experimenting

[grooveweapon]

I have finally found the ideal settings for my personal playing style with the eliminators. It involves having somewhere between medium and loose spring tension, blue cams, and the beater distance pretty far back from the head...just a smidge under 45 degree angle. They feel like a dream.

[aparker2005]

If anyone needs some eliminators, my hi hat and double kick pedals are for sale!

[bodomdrummer1]

I may be weird here but i use the blue cam on the right pedal and the red on the slave, with the slave slightly tighter than the right.. seems to work for me. possibly compensating to a weaker left foot

[randomhero243]

is the eliminator pedal long enough to be able to perform the heel toe technique?

GAH i hate when people say that.

YOU DONT NEED A LONG FOOT BOARD FOR HEEL TOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry pet peeve. but if you do it right you can do it with your heel on the foot baord. on the heel plate part. or on the floor. if you knoiw the technique its doable on any pedal.

[grooveweapon]

GAH i hate when people say that.

YOU DONT NEED A LONG FOOT BOARD FOR HEEL TOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry pet peeve. but if you do it right you can do it with your heel on the foot baord. on the heel plate part. or on the floor. if you knoiw the technique its doable on any pedal.

I agree. I learned the heel-toe technique back when I used a single pedal and it was a standard Yamaha pedal. I played really fast punk back then so I had to get that quick double and didn't want to take the time to learn the double pedal. Now I play metal with the Pearl Eliminators and can just as easily do heel-toe on them as I could on the Axis longboards that I am selling......yes, selling.

[stabmasterarson]

I just got 2 of these pedals with strap drive to replace my Iron Cobras, and I'm using the red cam that they came out of the box in. It feels fast, and a bit quieter and "wierder" than my rolling glides did. One thing I like a lot is that it takes way less energy to go fast with these pedals than the cobras did. I only played for about an hour so I still have to get used to them. I'm jamming with my band tomorrow with the red cam in, then I'm gonna try the blue cam.

[TraxxFactor]

I got an Eliminator off of ebay a few days ago and its quite possibly the greatest thing I've ever laid my foot on. I personally like all the cams but the Blue is my favorite. After that is White, Red, and Black.

[beatdr]

I've been useing the reds for years but I mostly played metal and started using a cobra double cause I got sick of dragging around 2 kicks and it's a standard. But I use the elim. single on my at home kit but I'm curoise to try the blue now if I still have one after reading all your input.

[Sirwill]

After 30+ years of hitting things with sticks I must say this pedal surpasses my old favorite the Ludwig speed king. I'm currently using the red cam for it fast response and steep pedal angle. I also have my foot boards set all the way back which helps to compliment the red cam.

[Sprock]

I got my elims the other day, been switching between cams i love the red and blue cant decide which i prefer yet, i can control them so easy and still get power out of them! im so happy i changed to this pedal they feel so perfect for my feet!

[drumtechdad]

I got my elims the other day, been switching between cams i love the red and blue cant decide which i prefer yet, i can control them so easy and still get power out of them! im so happy i changed to this pedal they feel so perfect for my feet!

My kid had the same issue. The red was too much and the blue not enough. You might try the purple cams, which are somewhere in-between.

[TheArchitect]

I have been using the white cams

[blasterbeat]

Right now I'm all about the blue cam, but after I start to improve my technique I may switch to the white.

[mrbling]

damn you drummer world ive been contemplating for weeks what will be my next pedal went from elims to cobras when my mate got his then dw 5000s now back to elims damn you

[trysthedrummer]

Definately the red cams for that lighter touch! Yeah they do purple and yellows ones too, but don't come in pairs! (Just for single pedals then). I wouldn't want to fork out for two packs as they aren't cheap for 2 bits of plastic.

I also have my foot boards set all the way back which helps to compliment the red cam.

Same here as well!! Spring tension is about moderate, beaters are about 45degrees in relation to the head.

[mrbling]

oh and since you have convinced me can you buy a seperate slave later on since i might sell my current dbp get the main and buy the slave later if that is possible

[mrbling]

well ive found it in america but does anyone know where to get it in england ?

[stabmasterarson]

I recently changed from red to blue and I like blue a lot better, more controlled but still fast

[piperdoog]

I have to say I'm a blue man myself!

[d1ondbeat]

I've had my eliminators double bass pedals for a year and have been playing with the reds. Been working on different techniques the past few weeks and decided to try the other cams and experiment with different footboard positions.

I was surprised when I moved the footboard inwards with the black cams how much more power I was getting and when i put the reds back it was sooo fast! but no power ...... White seems very balanced to me and blue gave me quick effortless triplets even more... so hard to choose now which I'd play with!!

for now...i think i'm sticking with the blue with the footboard in!

BTW...played DW 9002 for 3 years then tried the eliminators at a store and found them to be more fluid and comfortable...immediately bought them!!

Ben
Pearl Master MCX (Chestnut Fade)
Pearl Eliminators
Sabians

[piperdoog]

I've had my eliminators double bass pedals for a year and have been playing with the reds. Been working on different techniques the past few weeks and decided to try the other cams and experiment with different footboard positions.

I was surprised when I moved the footboard inwards with the black cams how much more power I was getting and when i put the reds back it was sooo fast! but no power ...... White seems very balanced to me and blue gave me quick effortless triplets even more... so hard to choose now which I'd play with!!

for now...i think i'm sticking with the blue with the footboard in!

BTW...played DW 9002 for 3 years then tried the eliminators at a store and found them to be more fluid and comfortable...immediately bought them!!

Ben
Pearl Master MCX (Chestnut Fade)
Pearl Eliminators
Sabians
I agree these pedals for the bucks are a superior pedal just for all the different feels and setup you can accomplish. Way to go Pearl...

[lochday]

I'm fairly certain the owner's manual tells you not to play without the cams...

True! The instruction manual says it might damage the pedal...
PS After playing with the linear black cam for a couple of years I am now using the white one (also linear) and I love it. It is smooth, not too powerful, very accurate and well suited for my 18 bass drum.
I recently tried the blue one but I found it a bit awkward. It is offset, powerful and there's an acceleration at the end which I didn't find very natural.

[piperdoog]

Well, I'm on the reds now, have been playing with blues for a while and the reds seem to be a little easier to handle when playing fast, however I feel I'm losing a bit of power with them. Lets face it, these pedals are the s&%t, I love them.

[Aleks]

started on red's. went to blues....back to reds....I get way more attack with them......

[aruration]

GAH i hate when people say that.

YOU DONT NEED A LONG FOOT BOARD FOR HEEL TOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry pet peeve. but if you do it right you can do it with your heel on the foot baord. on the heel plate part. or on the floor. if you know the technique its doable on any pedal.

Yeah I'm sorry, it took me some practice to realize that.

[weaponsloader2003]

Where can you buy the regular red white and blue cams? I have been looking for a while, but can't seem to find any.. Thanks for the help!

[Fiery]

I believe the only way to get them separate from the pedal is to order directly from Pearl. You should be able to find the exact part codes for the cams in the Pearl Spare Parts Catalog, downloadable here:
http://www.pearldrum.com/Customer-Support/Product-Catalogs.aspx

[zambizzi]

I tried this pedal the other day at Guitar Center, it's fantastic and very well made. I've been playing the DW 5000 AD3 for a couple of years and while it's nice, it's not adjustable. Which eliminator cam color would most closely mimic the 5000 accelerator?

[blasterbeat]

Eliminators are great! I have the BLUE cam on, powershifter all the way up and spring tension set just below medium tension and this baby soars!! Looking forward to converting to double when I get the slave extension.

[weaponsloader2003]

Thanks for the help Fiery!! I have been trying to find these things for a while. I got my pedals from my uncle after a flood destroyed his house and some of his cams were gone, so I have only been able to use the white ones, they are smooth and easy but I wanted to try the others out..

[Moldy]

I have the same issue weaponsloader. I bought mine off of eBay for about $60, but it only came with the black cam (and is it just me or do Pearl beater have this stupid bit of metal that doesn't let me slide it past a certain point?). Anyway, here: http://www.drumsetc.com/Details.asp?Product=10951&List=1&SubCategoryID=274&PL=&PH= At $14 PER CAM, I don't think it's worth it, personally. Too bad. I'd really like to be able to do most of what a double bass pedal can do on a single, and some of the cams (red especially) sound like they help with that.