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Skitch
01-31-2007, 05:27 AM
Okay, here is something I have noticed on another player's set-up. His spring tension is adjusted so slack that the retaining pin (which has the threads and thru which the spring passes) wobbles back and forth. Is there some sort of advantage to doing this that I don't know about? I have seen other threads stating that this sets the pedal up for the slowest speed!



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SketcHyRollin564
01-31-2007, 06:29 AM
As far as i know, it has no advantage, and just makes the pedal REALLY annoying to play on. Same goes with a generic squeaky pedal thats ajusted for maximum tension.

With a generic pedal, you want it in between, for maximum smoothness, and with a quality pedal, its personal taste, because no matter where you put it, it will be smooth, but the rebound be different.


mabey your friend is experimenting?

Skitch
01-31-2007, 08:01 AM
As far as i know, it has no advantage, and just makes the pedal REALLY annoying to play on. Same goes with a generic squeaky pedal thats ajusted for maximum tension.

With a generic pedal, you want it in between, for maximum smoothness, and with a quality pedal, its personal taste, because no matter where you put it, it will be smooth, but the rebound be different.


mabey your friend is experimenting?

I don't know - it is annoying and it is a high quality pedal.


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harryconway
01-31-2007, 08:41 AM
Different strokes for different folks. I couldn't play a pedal that loose.

SketcHyRollin564
02-01-2007, 03:33 AM
Well, i have no clue why he would want it that loose. Ill have to go with what the guy above me said. Mabey its personal preference, but that would annoy the crap out of me being that loose. Its kinda like my friend who had a bass drum that sounded PERFECT with one blanket (even one is alot of muffling) in it. He put TWO full size blankets in their. it sounds like crap, but he likes it better. He also has four moongels on his snare. I took tthree off and it sounded perfect


he told me there was too much ring, and i was just confused and didnt say anything.

Skitch
02-01-2007, 07:21 AM
Well, i have no clue why he would want it that loose. Ill have to go with what the guy above me said. Mabey its personal preference, but that would annoy the crap out of me being that loose. Its kinda like my friend who had a bass drum that sounded PERFECT with one blanket (even one is alot of muffling) in it. He put TWO full size blankets in their. it sounds like crap, but he likes it better. He also has four moongels on his snare. I took tthree off and it sounded perfect


he told me there was too much ring, and i was just confused and didnt say anything.

Ha!

Well, I just spent my evening changing out my Remo Ambassadors for Powerstroke 3s on my toms for a couple of gigs this weekend. You kind of have to work with the whaapp mentalty sometimes.


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da cheese walks
02-01-2007, 02:44 PM
well personally i love a really loose pedal....i mean if its nearly hitting your foot everytime you play and its bouncing back....thats my tension!I find even a slight amount of tension can be very irritating!

i mean yeah you need a bit of tension just so it bounces back etc.....but not too much!

Tama Player
02-01-2007, 02:58 PM
Im pretty much average. Maybe a little looser than ordinary, but Harry was right, different strokes for different folks. Just let him fool around with it and Im sure after awhile he'll get it just the way he wants it.

Peace
AGR

GRUNTERSDAD
02-01-2007, 04:48 PM
There should be two nuts on the shaft, one for tension and one for keeping it where you put it. Maybe the second one is loose and he is unaware of it. Regardless of the tension it shouldnt be flopping around.

LayinDown
02-01-2007, 10:58 PM
I cannot play on a pedal that's too loose. I have been experimenting with spring tension, beater angle, ect. lately and plan to tighten my spring even more tonight...maybe about 90% tension. We'll see...

Skitch
02-02-2007, 07:10 AM
Im pretty much average. Maybe a little looser than ordinary, but Harry was right, different strokes for different folks. Just let him fool around with it and Im sure after awhile he'll get it just the way he wants it.

Peace
AGR


My point was that was there an advantage, if any, to setting it this loose?

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da cheese walks
02-03-2007, 02:26 AM
My point was that was there an advantage, if any, to setting it this loose?

Mike

Its all relative,like everything...i love a loose pedal,can do some pretty interesting stuff with a looser pedal than the norm...its all preference of course,i mean for instance,i dig my foot in,i mean bury the beater...nicer,smoother,and more comfortable if you have little tension rippping your foot back to where it wants to be!!

another thing ive been screwin around with lately is gettin gmy triplets up to speed(single pedal),and looser works better,because your relying on how your foot goes,to get the power you want....and when i try with too much tension its just rough and doesnt give you such a smooth feel!

Another thing actually ive also been screwing with lately is bouncing the beater back with my foot,as in i hit the pedal and raise my knee,leaving my toes on the pedal,and basically tapping the beater head back into place with the centre of the top of my foot...so ive been incorporating this into triplets,and tryin to do Jo Jo Mayers "quadruplet" things...kind of a really fast and easy double hit,as you can achieve good speed!


but thats just me!and i do like to experiment...especially with bass,as i dont havea double pedal...and even thinking of totally boycotting the things!!(but thats really just because i know ill never get the hang of it!haha!) :)

vedox1024
02-17-2007, 07:12 AM
hello everybody.

i'm my experience, a person's pedal is just like his sticks, they widely vary with weight, response, feel, sound, etc... some people love a loose pedal, and others (myself included) like a more solid feel. a lot of it depends on your technique i suppose. if you flicked more with your toe, a looser pedal might be better, but if you use your calf and your ankle, a heavier pedal might be better suited to your needs.

maybe your friend uses a floppy pedal because he only uses his pinky toe. :P in any case, there's no real benefit to using a loose pedal or a tight one, unless it benefits your technique.