In-Ear Monitor???

[maximusppl]

Hey does anyone use an in-ear monitor when playing live? Basically replaces the wedge monitors that are on the stage for the drummer. I was thinking something along the lines of a Shure PSM 200 kit...

[bigbang]

I used one for about 4 shows and absolutely hated it.
It felt like I was dis-associated from everything on stage.But that's just me.

[konaboy]

I used one for about 4 shows and absolutely hated it.
It felt like I was dis-associated from everything on stage.But that's just me.

In what way??








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[maximusppl]

I am also curious to hear in what way you were dis-associated from everything on stage...

[tamadrummer132]

what hes saying is that he felt like he was playing to a recording.. not with a group and live.

[Pearl Player]

I use in ears and absolutly love em. Shure E3's I ask the sound guy for what I need fed to a headphone amp.. Even at home for practice I use Vic Firth high iso headphones. They do take a little to get used to. Also you dont have to run em so loud so in the long run your probably saving your hearing.

My 2 cents

Mike

[bigbang]

what hes saying is that he felt like he was playing to a recording.. not with a group and live.

Yes , this is exactly it , thanks tama...
It's kind of a hard thing to explain....it almost feels like your lip-syncing with your instrument and ...myself , I get sort of confused and can't really feel the music , if that makes any sense.
Lots of people use these nowadays, but again, it's just not for me.

I get confused a lot lately :)

[k3ng]

Personal experience - Don't use in ear monitors unless you've got
a) a good soundman
b) you have good electronic hardware
or
c) you've got no other choice.

I honestly prefer the old wedge monitors... in ear might be cool and all.. but tried it and hated it...

[Guinness]

I love ear monitors. My singer has allowed me to use his Shure set once at a gig to see how I would like it and it took instantly with me. The only problem is, our current board only allows for two monitor mixes, which is why I haven't purchased a set yet. We are looking into a new 24 channel board from Carvin that allows for 4 seperate monitor mixes per channel, which is more than enough. Carvin actually has a set of ear monitors as well that are quite a bit less expensive than the Shure and probably close to the same quality. This is probably the system I will purchase once we get all of our ducks in a row. A Buttkicker might have to be added as well to feel the bottom end, which is probably the only draw back to in-ear monitors.

[masonni]

I have been playing with In-Ears for about a year now, and I will NEVER go back to a floor monitor. I run a direct line from the sound or monitor board into a Rolls PM50. It's not the best sounding, but I have my own volume controls. For In-Ears I use Ultimate Ears Super fi. 5 Pro's, but I have a set of custom moldes on the way.

[konaboy]

The one thing that was suggested to me when I was looking at them was to have mic's setup as crowd mic's to pick up some of the ambient noise from the crowd and stage so you don't get that dead sound feeling.

[jollymosher]

The one thing that was suggested to me when I was looking at them was to have mic's setup as crowd mic's to pick up some of the ambient noise from the crowd and stage so you don't get that dead sound feeling.

im looking at them as well! im thinking i will put 2 over heads far stage left and right, about 6 feet in the air. it would give you more depth of sound, and would give you some idea of the other noises happening.

[Jay.B.]

The other way to avoid that "DEAD" feeling whilst playing with in-ear monitoring would be to just use one ear for the monitor and have the other open to capture the live sound, after all, most of us only ever get a wedge on one side of the kit :-) The sure e2c ear-phones were highly recommended to me as a starting point, usually sell for about £45 -£50 and as you go up the range, the price increases until you hit the e5c which I think I saw for nearly £200

But I would suggest only using the in ear monitoring in just the one ear, see how that works for you.

[DamoSyzygy]

A Buttkicker might have to be added as well to feel the bottom end, which is probably the only draw back to in-ear monitors.
Im currently using the Shure E4 eapieces and they have some extra bottom-end to them. Ideally, Id like to step up to E5s for the separate bass driver, but the clarity of the E4's is mindblowing

[syaoran05]

i like ear monitors better [whether in ear or not] than floor monitors... ordinary monitors churn out a not-so-true reproduction of the drum sound, as with ear monitors, its exactly how the mic picks the drum sounds up.. plus it eliminates delays that i experience with floor monitors.