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Big Evil
07-01-2005, 09:11 PM
Im wanting to buy a new snare but im not really sure what to go for. Any sugestions?

Pedro
07-01-2005, 09:38 PM
Hi

Try all the big brands.

Certainly try Gretsch. I also heard Noble and Cooley snares sound crazy!

somedrummer
07-02-2005, 10:13 PM
Go vintage! Try a Ludwig Supraphonic. you can get em on Ebay in new condition for about 250, or in ok condition for around 175. Or if you're rich, go for a black beauty. Those are very expensive but I've heard that they are expensive for a reason. Or you could get a pearl reference series 20 ply snare. Just my thoughts. good luck!

Rob

Sticksman
07-03-2005, 04:29 AM
The reference series snares are very good, as are many signature snares, the best of which are the Virgil Donati snare and Joey Jordison snare

DogBreath
07-03-2005, 06:28 AM
I hate to be a wet blanket, but just asking others which is a good snare might not get you much useful information. More than any other single piece of your kit, the snare is the most complicated. First, decide what sound you want, and then learn what contributes to that sound, and finally which snares meet your criteria. Here is some basic info that might help you decide.



Sound in a snare is affected by many things, including shell material; diameter (distance from edge to edge); depth (distance from top or beater head to bottom or resonant head); porting (holes) in the shell or heads; type, material, construction, and quality of the lugs and hoops; the number of lugs; head material; surface coating of the heads; number and tension of the snare wires; the tightness of the heads; the relative tuning between the heads; whether or not the heads are free-floating; and whether or not there are internal reinforcing hoops. See what I mean?



Let's take just one aspect of the snare's composition, the material, and see how complicated this can get. As far as the actual material that the snare is made from, this is a short list starting from the top with darker tones, to the bottom with brighter tones:



Mahogany

Maple

Beech

Birch

Oak

Aluminum

Copper

Steel

Bronze

Brass



As you can see, wood snares have a mellower tone that is suited well for jazz (which is why I'm going to steal Bernhard's . . . I mean, buy one like Bernhard's as soon as I can afford it), and metal has a more powerful tone that projects well through a rock ensemble. By the way, acrylic shells have a sharp crack and would be near the bottom of that list.



To further complicate just this one aspect of a snare's sound, metal and wood are sometimes used together, and even full wood snares can be made from combinations of different woods, or multiple layers of wood, or solid slats or "staves" that are fused together.



Then there are the details, which also affect the sound. The edge of the drum that the head rests on is called the bearing edge, and a sharp bearing edge lends brightness and sustain, whereas a rounder bearing edge makes the tone mellower. If the interior of the snare is smooth, there will be less resonance. If the shell is thinner, there will be more resonance.



And that is just the material and construction of the shell. As you can tell, many questions will have to be answered before you can decide which snare is best for you, included one very practical one: will the drum you choose sound good with the rest of your set?

Big Evil
07-03-2005, 08:07 PM
Thank you very much dog breath for that. Im going to London in a couple weeks so i will get a chance to try out lots of snares there.

GPinney
07-06-2005, 07:11 PM
What is your favorite type of snare drum?

NUTHA JASON
07-06-2005, 11:35 PM
pearl maple free floating sanre with 42 strand snare wire.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/nuthajason/snare.jpg

Superlow
07-06-2005, 11:39 PM
I like those Tama Bell Brass snare drums. They really cut. I don't know if they are worth $1200 though.

DrUmStIcKmUrDeReR
07-07-2005, 12:50 AM
black panther premium birdseye maple 5.5x14...im probably gunna buy one in january or something...

http://www.blackpanthersnares.com/images/products_premium_birdseye.jpg

Bonham to the moon
07-07-2005, 01:10 AM
Dunnett Ti

here (http://www.dunnett.com/products/ti-04.php)

medeskisoul
07-07-2005, 08:26 PM
6"x12" 24ply maple Treehouse snare drum with diecast hardware and Nickelworks throwoff.
http://www.treehousedrums.com/images/drums/snares/mapleblk_snr_lg.jpg

Anchein Vouivra
07-07-2005, 09:52 PM
If it's in matter of sound, I'd say may favourite sound is Abe Cunningham's (Deftones) snare sound. It's so clear and powerful. Just listen the first second of the song "My Own Summer" or "Digital Bath". Abe is also such a great drummer. Guess he's using a Starclassic Bell Brass snare drum............................if only one day Tama would like to endorse me, these are so expensive.
One other dream snare would maybe be the Sonor Artist serie Bronze snare, but it's also a jet-set snare.
I think i'm focusing to buy soon the Jimmy Chamberlin Yamaha signature snare. Actually I'm using my best friend's Chad Smith Pearl snare which is pretty cool, and is available for low budget.........

Speedy
07-07-2005, 10:06 PM
Ludwig Supraphonic Snare
" Black Beauty Snare

Superlow
07-07-2005, 10:23 PM
Speedy, Nice Choices.

Here's what mine looks like approximately.

Dill X
07-07-2005, 10:33 PM
6.5 x 14 Ludwig Supraphonic Snare Drum

or a Orange County Drum and Percussion Snare like the one seen here. (http://www.ocdrum.com/drums/image.php?id=127&page=9&n=57&t=177)

Superlow
07-07-2005, 10:38 PM
I think I would be afraid to play that ocdp drum for obvious reasons. Also you would defintely need a road case to move that to a gig. Hey but if sounds great it sounds great.

drummerboy898
07-07-2005, 10:58 PM
slingerland radioking. Its the one Buddy used.

Rudy McRudster
07-08-2005, 12:14 AM
I generally go to Guitar Center and salivate over their 6 x 14 Tama Starclassic G Maple. It just sounds so great. But for now I have a 3 x 13 Pearl Maple pic which is suprisingly warm and fat. I like it a lot.

CartersChops
07-09-2005, 08:18 AM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b56/xprincesstimslyx/carterrrrrrrr.jpg

carter used it with dave matthews band on the central park album, i think he uses ocheltree snare drums otherwise. but anyway, this snare has the best crack ive ever heard. it exploads, and then you dont expect it to have such incredible sensativity at low volumes. no ring, overtones get a listen for yourself

superbatmat
07-09-2005, 11:08 AM
My DW collectors Maple !!! 14''x5'' !!! A must !!!
I can play all I want with it !!

Freddie Freeloader
07-09-2005, 12:14 PM
from what i've been told, these drums sound as good as they look....
absolutely gorgeous....

monkanonk
07-09-2005, 01:22 PM
http://www.dwdrums.com/snares/snareimages/Snare-Aluminum.jpgMy favorite snare is my 5x14 dw collector series alluminum with satin hardware. I was the lucky winner of it at the modern drummer festival!

G-money
07-09-2005, 11:49 PM
Sometimes Very warm with NO ring

Othertimes Very bright and Rrringy!

slingerlandradioking55
07-10-2005, 04:44 PM
my favorite is my Slingerland 1964 Sound King snare drum.

Mokomakin
07-10-2005, 07:59 PM
Kumu

14" x 61/2" , FreeFrame , ClassicWoodHoops , reindeer-skin on top , 2 snaresMahogany / SatinSound

http://www.kumu.fi/ukvirvelit/ffpieni.gif
http://www.kumu.fi/ukvirvelit/ff2.gif

I also love this one

14" x 61/2" RedLace / SatinSound

http://www.kumu.fi/ukvirvelit/redlace.gif

Breakbeat Milo
07-10-2005, 11:34 PM
My SONOR Jungle Snare (10" x 2"0).

It's so funky. So Drum n' Bass. So Jungle.
AMAZING!

G-MaN91
07-10-2005, 11:59 PM
so ive been searching to buy a new snare and ive decided to go with black panther. im either gonna go with the premium series brass or the hammered series brass, but i cant decide. the reason i want to go with the premium series brass it because it offers a deep dark sound, distinct overtones at high tuning, a dry, controlled sound at mid tuning, and a deep punch at low tuning. the reason i wanted the hammered series brass is because it offers a great performance from brushes to an "ear-shattering" rim shot. what i was wondering is, would i get the same qualities of the premium series brass with the hammered series brass snare durm? would the premium series brass snare offer a great rim shot and good brush work aslo? also, does the hammered finish give more of a bright sound, because that is something i dont want. if anyone could answer this, thatd be great.

James Walker
07-17-2005, 10:44 AM
Marcato (http://www.marcatopercussion.com) carbon fiber, and Tempus (http://www.tempusdrums.com) fibreglass and carbon fibre shell snare drums.

(Today, my "favorite" is a 6x14 Marcato c/f - but the title of "favorite" rotates almost daily between it and a couple of my Tempus snare drums, depending on what kind of mood I'm in.)

BTW...here's a (poor) picture of my Marcato, a home-built DIY project:

http://www.malletjazz.com/snares/marcato1.jpg

needforspeed182
07-17-2005, 04:42 PM
Mapex Popcorn Snare10/10 or a Black Panther 14"/12

G-money
07-17-2005, 08:10 PM
Kumu

14" x 61/2" , FreeFrame , ClassicWoodHoops , reindeer-skin on top , 2 snaresMahogany / SatinSound









Hi Mokomakin, I was wondering what do the Kumu snares sound like? Is there an audio clip online somewhere i could here them? -Thanks they look really cool!

darkcherryfade
07-17-2005, 08:58 PM
6.5x14 maple shells between 8 and 12 plies are ideal to me, with either wood or die-cast hoops. Rudy McRudster, if you ever acquire a that Starclassic G Maple snare, I guarantee you'll salivate over it more at your house after you've played it with your kit.

darkcherryfade
07-17-2005, 08:59 PM
Also, EVERY high end Yamaha, Tama, and Gretsch snare I've ever played.

eddrummer05
07-20-2005, 08:24 AM
hello, i like many snares,love the sound of piccolos very tight kind of timbale sound nice for latin music,funk,and rock too,then i like the sonor synphony 14x6,other snare i love is the sonor jungle snare 10x2 it has jingles on the sides hehe..

ctdrummer
07-22-2005, 07:14 PM
In order of favorite.
1) Slingerland Radio King 5-1/2x14 mahogany shell
2) Ludwig Acrolite 5-1/2x14 aluminum shell
3) Yamaha Absolute 6-1/2x14 hammered copper

tomtom
08-02-2005, 12:40 AM
At the moment my brand new Dunnett Ti 6,5 x 13: here (http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1074)

Second, my Brady 5,5 x 14 Jarrah ply

finnhiggins
08-02-2005, 12:42 AM
from what i've been told, these drums sound as good as they look....
absolutely gorgeous....

I haven't got a wood Ayotte, but I think the Keplingers are a little overrated. They're good drums, but I own one and it's not really as good as the price tag would suggest. A bit dry, lacking in character. Really loud though, and it doesn't sound like a metal drum which is nice.

Gorm
08-02-2005, 02:14 AM
I love my ludwig supraphonic (i love the price i got it for too off ebay, 190 bucks) I had a chrome over wood snare I got a while ago. i liked the sound as well, its broken though. Needs a new throw off plus it was missing a lug, didnt effect the sound as much though

Jason Dorn
08-02-2005, 05:46 PM
My favorite snare drum is a 5.5x13 maple DW Craviotto a great all around drum with a coated powerstroke 3 this drum can be comfortable anywhere from moderate jazz through hard rock. This drum is the perfect blend of warmth and cut. I get compliments from other drummers and soundmen all the time.

Jason Dorn
08-02-2005, 05:48 PM
"Kumu

14" x 61/2" , FreeFrame , ClassicWoodHoops , reindeer-skin on top , 2 snaresMahogany / SatinSound" Wow this drum is way to beautiful for the throwoff that is on it.

DogBreath
08-02-2005, 06:13 PM
My DW collectors Maple !!! 14''x5'' !!! A must !!!
I can play all I want with it !!

Ah, just beautiful.

. .

K!lly
08-03-2005, 02:12 AM
my little baby:

http://sonor-world.com/cgi-sys/Sonor_FE/sonor/english/detail_std.html?button-kategorie_03-find_artikel=&a-kategorie_common-sz_CurrentKatLevel=03&button-quicklink-set_selected_artikel=&wcpb-id=wd558eca05b4a5635e82ed56bfe12bcbdfa8624a51c

Milo
08-08-2005, 07:30 PM
Just got a supraphonic, getting it to sound pretty good. Just put a 42 strand snare on my Starclassic and WOW!! I love it!! Thanks Nutha!

devilfish
08-09-2005, 02:04 AM
My ancient Ludwig steel snare that I've owned for like 15 or 16 years. My parents bought it off of a drummer who was selling his set when I was in the 5th grade. I've loved this snare ever since.

Cheers.

Drum4Food
08-09-2005, 02:13 AM
I use 2 different snare types , its all about the mood.

ludwigdrummer
08-09-2005, 02:56 AM
Ludwig Black Beauty, hand engraved of course.

malcolm ross
08-10-2005, 06:04 PM
hi,as a kid i was lucky to be given a day in the premier factory in england,when i asked about ludwig drums,the reply was "they just rely on old designs"/ this was 1972 and to be honest since then i never looked at ludwig gear.I recently have had the pleasure of playing two ludwig snares /one a bb 14" x 5" with classic lugs and also 14" x6" bronze tube lugs/ and they were both easy to play and sounded better than any other snare drum ive used.ive bought and used about 15 different snares in many settings inc theatre and recording /all sizes and materials.now im just about to order a ludwig bb at £500/here in the uk,i notice pearl do a "copy" of the bb called brass sensitone 14"x5" classic which even has beaded shell too,also it has die cast hoops which are easier to play rim shots on than the ludwigs press steel hoops.....any of you guys out there can give an advice on how the two compare,i would be very gratefull.malcolm ross scotland

onemat
08-10-2005, 06:33 PM
Hi,

Nearly everybody copies or has copied the Black Beauty and the Suprafonic. If the design of the shell is old but works and sounds great, so what. I play my 5.25 X 14 Brass edition Black Beauty 99% of the time. They will have to "pry that drum from my cold dead fingers!" I've noticed the resale on Ludwig Black Beauties is very strong, so I wouldn't worry about the investment. I bought mine from Ludwig at a drum show for $450.00 and I don't miss that money at all. Matt

Dannar
08-10-2005, 08:51 PM
I personally would go for the Ludwig, other companies try to make improvements on the Ludwig snares, but you just can't the beat the original. I have two Ludwig snares, and 5X14 chrome over alumminum, and a 6.5X14 chrome over brass. Both are amazing! Every other Ludwig snare I have played is great too. I'm sure either snare would be great, Pearl does make good drums, but I would rather have the real thing than a some other companies copy of it. You mentioned liking the rim on the Pear more, if you got the Ludwig snare, and didn't like the rim then you could buy one of the Pearl rims and put it on the Ludwig. Thats just an idea I thaught I would mention. Either way its a win win situation really. Good luck in your decision!

onemat
08-10-2005, 08:58 PM
I forgot to mention this RE the Ludwig. Go for the Diecast hoops. Also I on my 5/14 Black Beauty I added 42 strand which deepened the sound of the drum somewhat.I also use a 1 ply head with a dot underneath. The drum is super responsive. I don't know why Ludwig doesn't take the hint from so many drummers and offer the 42 strand snares.
Matt

Thinshells
08-10-2005, 09:26 PM
Hi,
Just found the forum. Just thought I'd say that I have been a lifetime maple drum guy. I like other drums, but my passion has been American made stuff, usually the thin-shelled maple variety that Ludwig, DW and Keller make to name a few. I appreciate other woods and aluminum drums, but maple is my clear favorite.

I just picked up a new snare, it's a 6.5x14 Ludwig maple exotic with a Steinway and sons waterfall bubinga finish. It was $400. It sounds every bit as good as it looks. I chose it over other stuff I tried. I looks like a modern classic, reminiscent of the craftsmanship Sonor puts into their exotic stuff.

http://images.misupply.com/products/original/Ludwig/159573.jpg

From prog to jazz, most of my favorite drummers use a wood snare as primary. (For example Portnoy's Tama Melody master.)

I'd like this to kick off a wood snare thread! Please post comments about your favorite wood snares.

rendezvous_drummer
08-11-2005, 02:03 AM
I want a wood snare badly, but thats a nice snare you posted there.

JW89
08-11-2005, 02:49 AM
Thats a sweet looking snare man. Very nice.

JW89
08-11-2005, 02:56 AM
Ok, im getting a new snare drum some time soon. What is the differnence in sound between a snare thats about 5x14, and a snare thats deeper, like a 7x14, or 8x10?

MECHT4NK
08-11-2005, 03:27 AM
drum diameter defines pitch while depth has an impact on articulation. a shallower shell will produce some sort of shorter tone burst than a deeper one.

DogBreath
08-11-2005, 03:51 AM
JW, this thread may have some info for you. http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99

JW89
08-11-2005, 04:17 AM
thanks man, it helped

largo61
08-12-2005, 04:00 AM
I agree with Dog Breath. It is impossible to choose a snare based on what people want. Snares are like fingerprints. No two are the same. You should really go to a music store and choose a snare. And concider what music you play. You may love a warm soft tone, but if you play rock you need a sharp, loud drum that will cut. A snare is by far the most important part if your set. Choose wisely.

anson89
08-12-2005, 11:16 PM
I bought a used Ludwig Accent Steel snare drum. I got pissed tuning it cause it's giving me weird sound.. I tuned both up/bottom snare head tight and I can't get a snare sound out.. I brought it to the shop they say I'm missing a tone controller and so I bought it.. And it doesn't fit for the snare so I returned it. Any ideas I can fix it guys?

I'm thinking of buying another good snare and sell this off in the future while I save some money.

somedrummer
08-13-2005, 12:38 AM
Try these 2 things:

First change the heads, both of them.

Make sure that the snare is actually touching the bottom head. If its not, that is why you're not getting a snare sound. Try tightening up the snares.

If this doesn't work, I reccomend just saving up for a good snare.

Rob

needforspeed182
08-16-2005, 11:57 PM
They are all Black Panther Snares, first is Hammered Brass
Second is Premium Traditional Maple, and third (and most expensive) is The Black Panther Limited edition Hand Hammered Snare Drum (all 14 inches)

needforspeed182
08-16-2005, 11:57 PM
Arent they nice, as u can see i like the black and gold look

G-MaN91
08-17-2005, 12:09 AM
yes, i was thinking about going with either the black panther hammered brass or black panther premium brass for a new snare. still dont know the difference between the two. but now ive decided to go with the dennis chamber signature snare. probably will be a little while before i get it though.

needforspeed182
08-17-2005, 12:24 AM
yah same here, i might try to put a black drum head on it just for looks

Bernhard
08-17-2005, 01:22 AM
Hmm, why is this important and why should this be sticky??

Bernhard

finnhiggins
08-17-2005, 02:01 AM
Hmm, why is this important and why should this be sticky??

Bernhard

What the... you mean... three pictures of snare drums doesn't justify a sticky?

Why, you little...!!!

somedrummer
08-17-2005, 02:05 AM
I like the hand hammered look, the third one kinda tickles me (perhaps because its so expensive)...

needforspeed182
08-17-2005, 02:17 AM
cuz, i dont want to drive 5 hours, and waste like 500 dollers...i just need opinions on the snares, i play rock music with a hint of metal

G-MaN91
08-17-2005, 03:11 AM
if youre gonna put out that much money on a new drum, dont just go by what people tell you. you drive the 5 hours, test it yourself, hear it yourself, and feel it yourself.

DogBreath
08-17-2005, 03:23 AM
How is three pictures of snares a "review"?

Stevis
08-17-2005, 04:35 AM
Sometime soon I wanna get a new snare drum and I wanna know what people are using and what features about their snare the like and dislike.

illy
08-17-2005, 04:42 AM
think you're asking the wrong first question. the question you SHOULD be asking is this: "i want a snare that sounds/feels/does this. any suggestions?"

PearlDrummer014
08-17-2005, 04:56 AM
the ones taht i really like is the pearl free floaters from what i have played at guitarcenter but really go with what sounds best to you. personally i like the way the starclassic maple snare sounds the dw wood one. and the ludwig supraphonic. to name a few

Stevis
08-17-2005, 05:39 AM
think you're asking the wrong first question. the question you SHOULD be asking is this: "i want a snare that sounds/feels/does this. any suggestions?"

No i didn't, I was thinking of saying that at first but I thoguht I keep my mind open to maybe something new that I didn't think of.

Here I'll make a list for everyone to help out for me.

Snare:
Style of music:
Sound:
Pro's:
Con's:
Price:

that should be good enough for me...

HeyMang
08-18-2005, 08:35 AM
pretty recently (meaning a year / 6 mo) i got a 14x6.5 ludwig supraphonic. its one of the remakes of the originals but personally i love it. its got great live sound to it and sounds incredible in the studio. id say one of the only cons is the price... 500 bones!! eh...it was nice to finally get it though.

hmm...styles of music....well id say its good really good for rock / metal. i think lars from metallica uses one. hmm... id also say it sounds good enough for jazz...in studio anyways, live? not sure..

oh forgot to mention... john bonham used one (if you didnt already know). same specs as mine except, of course, he used an original.

anson89
08-21-2005, 10:20 PM
Well my budget is 199 .. I was thinking of the Joey Jordison model. But I've never heard it before. I'm a rock player and I play in church, are there any "satanic" symbols around the snare?

bohnamismygod
08-21-2005, 10:51 PM
Well my budget is 199 .. I was thinking of the Joey Jordison model. But I've never heard it before. I'm a rock player and I play in church, are there any "satanic" symbols around the snare?

I think You should play the snare You want before You'll buy it. go for a music shop where You can play it and then deicde whether it's "satanic" or it's not. and, of course, decide if it fits You in matter of sound.

cheers :)

Dyaxe
08-22-2005, 12:15 AM
the only thing imprinted on the snare is the slipknot S logo. look up pictures of it on the pearl website. i doubt that would be considered satanic, but some people in church could find it offending.

bohnamismygod
08-22-2005, 12:34 AM
hey all :)

which one of this snares is the best? maybe You'll try one of them, Anson?

1. tama artwood 14x8
2. premier modern classic 14x7
3. pacific sx 14x6

I'll be glad for advices :)

finnhiggins
08-22-2005, 04:37 AM
OK, here I go then... I'll give my current two in regular use...

Snare: Yamaha 13x5 Maple Steve Gadd signature
Style of music: Used in everything from jazz to rock, chokes a bit in a metal setting.
Sound: Nearest comparison would be Matt Chamberlain's snare sound on the Tori Amos live disc - tight but punchy and with a nice woody snap. Really nice snare response on ghost notes, has a great crisp woody flutter without sounding "Hollow" at all even at high tensions.
Pro's: Awesome sounding, very versitile.
Con's: Black coating on hoops chips off over time, lugs as shipped are prone to slipping if you rimshot a lot. Not ideal in low tunings - but hey, it's a 13x5!
Price: $Reasonable. I got it for two hundred pounds in the UK just after the series was launched.

Snare: Ayotte Keplinger 14x5.5" Woodhoop (stainless steel shell).
Style of music: Rock. Not really suited to a jazz setting, even ghosted this is not exactly a quiet drum and you can hear the steel.
Sound: Aggressive but with a bit of warmth from the hoop. More dry than the Yamaha above, but with a bit of metal bite to it. Rimshots are nice and explosive, and it'll take a low tuning very well. Sometimes a bit lacking in character for my taste, but it's certainly a mean drum - sounds a lot better with some reverb and compression, too. I think it's probably an average (unmiked) live drum and an excellent recording one.
Pro's: Ratcheted snare strainer - you can adjust snare tension while playing! Pretty sweet. Also has key-lockable lugs, so no slipping on this drum.
Con's: IT'S !#!##*!!#FFARRGHING HEAVY! Also, wood hoops can be damaged easily by non-drumming related activities such as dropping or accidentally chipping with the metal handle part of some brushes. You have to be pretty careful with it.
Price: $Extortionate. I got mine for NZ$1300 used.

the gayge
08-25-2005, 06:29 AM
for about a year now i've been using a mapex black panther 14x6.5 steel snare. it only cost me 250 dollars and its the most satisfied i've ever been with a snare drum. i've played snares that cost more than a grand, including a dunnett titanium just this past weekend on a recording session and i would still fall back on my black panther. aside from sounding huge at a medium tuning, it sounds almost woody at higher tensions. and as a great bonus every bit of the drum is black chrome, even the snare wires.
awesome investment.

MunsieMan
08-25-2005, 06:36 AM
Ludwig Supra Phonice snare drum, in my eyes one of the best snares out there, a Ludwig Colloseum (sp?) is also VERY nice my drum teacher has one ide give my right eye for anyone *looks around to see if anyone will take me up on the offer*

RudimentalDrummer
08-25-2005, 06:54 AM
Well ... I had just recently bought a snare. It's a Yamaha Oak Custom and definetely not the best but it's good cause Oak are loud and as it's mellow too I love this snare....vis a vis my steel snare. I have a Picolo too.

Reason why I make that decision - cause I'm having a Yamaha Stage Custom Kit and the Oak Custom Snare is within my budget and the color match my set and serve it's purpose well at least for now.

If only I have the $$$$$$ - I will consider "Noble and Cooley" ... maybe the one that they design it for Zildjian .. think it's something like 500pcs worldwide only ... a collection piece too...cheers !

James Walker
08-25-2005, 01:49 PM
2. premier modern classic 14x7


IMHO, the Modern Classic line of snare drums is one of the most underrated lines out there. I used to own a 4x14 maple, and it was an outstanding drum - great sound, great tuning range, outstanding craftsmanship. I've also played several other maple Modern Classic snares, and one of the brass MCs, and they were all fantastic instruments. (The only reason why I sold my 4x14 was because I built a similar-sized stave shell snare that was even better.)

Thinshells
08-25-2005, 02:36 PM
hey all :)

which one of this snares is the best? maybe You'll try one of them, Anson?

1. tama artwood 14x8
2. premier modern classic 14x7
3. pacific sx 14x6

I'll be glad for advices :)

The Premier is about $400, but is far and away better than the other 2. I heard one after I bought my Ludwig, and sonically, I'd have been happy with it. It is top shelf.

on-the-one
09-04-2005, 02:22 PM
Right now I have a Ludwig Supersensitive 5'5*14" snare from '72. I found it second hand for 200 Euros (a little less than 200$ I suppose). It sounds amazing. It has an Evans Power Center Reverse Dot on it right now. Sounds rather dry and short, but still bites easily through the guitars and blends in perfectly with the rest of my kit. all though it's only 5'5" deep, it sounds remarkably deep. I wanted a snare that could drive with some serious power, and that's exactly what I found.

Right now I'm on the lookout for a FAT wooden snare, and I've been taking some serious notes whilst reading this topic.


Big Evil,

I suggest you follow the advise that has been given here before. Choosing a snare is a matter too personal to be left to others. Find out what sound you're looking for and then go and find out what is available on the market (because it's a BIG market).

CHASEdrummer.
09-09-2005, 02:15 AM
I'm just going to throw this out there. If you like it, great. If not, be sure to send it right back. For my money (exactly $211 @ Guitar Center) the Yamaha 6.5x13 Musashi Snare is it. It is the only snare I will ever play again. Seriously, the versatility of this thing is just ridiculous. Hip hop gig? Crank that bad boy up and it sounds like freakin' ?uestlove from The Roots. Need a fat rock thud? Oh baby, it's like butter. It's just so easy. Plus, it's absolutely gorgeous. I knock it around with my band and it's just...(sigh), I never cease to get compliments from sound guys. "Man, your kit is amazing and that snare is so, balanced...focused. It's probably among the best I've ever heard." I love hearing that.

It cuts, it thuds, it's gorgeous and most importantly you don't have to sell plasma for three years to afford it. Go and get it.

(oh and if any of you crazy punk or metal drummers want to buy a SWEET snare that I'm not man enough to handle, shoot me an email chase.band@hotmail.com it's custom, it's maple, it's amazing. put in the heading "about snare"...later days)

mlehnertz
09-09-2005, 02:38 AM
IMO -

Dollar for dollar, the best snare drum is the 5 x 14 Ludwig Supraphonic. You do play almost any style with it. Try to scoop up a used one somewhere.

fourstringdrums
09-09-2005, 05:15 AM
I'm trying to win this one on Ebay. Yamaha Oak Custom 5.5x14. I need one to compliment the rest of my oaks.

http://i8.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/e6/d4/cd_12_sb.JPG

Thinshells
09-10-2005, 11:27 AM
I only have 3 snares with a 4th on the way. I know some of you have a bunch of snares. There must be one that you spend more time using than others.

I gravitate toward my Pearl ultracast over my ludwig maple or yamaha oak snares, I have seen Neil Peart keeps gravitating toward his Slingerland radio king out of his arsenal.

Any favorites among many?

This thread is for those of you who have 3 or more snares.

Doug Masters
09-10-2005, 03:03 PM
I have found myself using my Tama Artwood more than my Pearl's or DW snare. The Artwood is not the top of the line but the maple shell with an Evans G1 just sings. Proof that money doesn't always buy good sound

finnhiggins
09-10-2005, 03:07 PM
I only have 3 snares with a 4th on the way. I know some of you have a bunch of snares. There must be one that you spend more time using than others.

I gravitate toward my Pearl ultracast over my ludwig maple or yamaha oak snares, I have seen Neil Peart keeps gravitating toward his Slingerland radio king out of his arsenal.

Any favorites among many?

This thread is for those of you who have 3 or more snares.

That's kind of hard. I have three snares which occupy a range of sizes, depths and materials. The one in the middle of the range gets used most...

1: Ayotte 14" Woodhoop keplinger
2: Yamaha 13" Maple Steve Gadd signature
3: Tama 13" Piccolo (would have to check the model)

The Ayotte is loud and better for low tunings than either of the other two. Sounds great for a big rock type sound. The Gadd drum is very versitile, I can use it for basically anything. The Piccolo is very limited, only really useful for hip-hop/funk/dnb stuff (or rock music heavily influenced by that type of material).

So yeah. Yamaha 13x5" Maple Steve Gadd sig for me, but only because really that's a pretty versitile combo in my book - I like quite tight snare sounds, but it has plenty of range inside that particular approach. Warm woody ghost strokes coupled with a killer rimshot and a nice sound when you bung your wallet on it for a retro 70s muted sound... I can get everything from Bill Bruford to Outkast out of it.

mlehnertz
09-10-2005, 03:45 PM
I have 4 snares.

Ludwig 5 x 14 Supraphonic.
Yamaha 3.5 x 14 piccolo.
Yamaha 8 x 14 wood.
Slingerland 5 x 14 metal 8-lug.

I use the Supraphonic more than anything. It's the most versatile snare that I own. I typically take two snares with me on a gig and will switch if I feel the need.

As for No Feel Neil, I had read once that the only part of his set that isn't replaced when he switches vendors is the snare drum. He always keeps his Slingerland snare. Look at the pictures of him in concert (not endorsement photos) and you see it.

Wegadrummer
09-10-2005, 04:11 PM
i just ordered Chad Smith pro snare for pearl.. i cant wait ! !

Thinshells
09-10-2005, 04:59 PM
I have found myself using my Tama Artwood more than my Pearl's or DW snare. The Artwood is not the top of the line but the maple shell with an Evans G1 just sings. Proof that money doesn't always buy good sound

I think it may come down to the snare's balance. The balance between response and tuning. I've heard sensitive snares that sound blah, and I have heard nice ones that you have to hammer to get sound out of.

After I heard what the ultracast could do, I think it pretty much became the upper limit that I'd ever need to spend on a snare. I have heard some very expensive stuff that didn't exactly blow me away.

Drummer_Boy
09-10-2005, 07:26 PM
I sure wish I had a Jimmy Chamberlin Signature snare...or an old Radio King of course..

Thinshells
09-10-2005, 07:44 PM
I sure wish I had a Jimmy Chamberlin Signature snare...or an old Radio King of course..

The radio king, and an acrylic snare are the only two types of snares I have not played. I didn't get to try the Paiste 2002 snare, but I did try the Zildjian anniversary snare.

I will have to find a radio king this summer. A single piece of steambent maple is interesting. Vintage radio kings cost as much or more than a new radio king. $600+ usually.

Nilis
09-10-2005, 08:09 PM
Remo recently re-released the mondo snare. New and improved too. Basically a cross between a hand drum and a snare drum i guess. You play it with mallets, sticks and hands so you can use it in a drumset as well as a world percussion setup.


But yeah, i got that all from remo.com and just decided to post just in case anyone hasnt seen it. I'm definately thinking of getting one.

http://remo.com/photo/catalog/521/590/591/big.jpg

Thinshells
09-10-2005, 08:20 PM
Remo recently re-released the mondo snare. New and improved too. Basically a cross between a hand drum and a snare drum i guess. You play it with mallets, sticks and hands so you can use it in a drumset as well as a world percussion setup.


But yeah, i got that all from remo.com and just decided to post just in case anyone hasnt seen it. I'm definately thinking of getting one.

http://remo.com/photo/catalog/521/590/591/big.jpg

Speaking of remo: I have not played an acousticon or carbon fiber snare either.

fourstringdrums
09-10-2005, 08:52 PM
I'm just going to throw this out there. If you like it, great. If not, be sure to send it right back. For my money (exactly $211 @ Guitar Center) the Yamaha 6.5x13 Musashi Snare is it. It is the only snare I will ever play again. Seriously, the versatility of this thing is just ridiculous. Hip hop gig? Crank that bad boy up and it sounds like freakin' ?uestlove from The Roots. Need a fat rock thud? Oh baby, it's like butter. It's just so easy. Plus, it's absolutely gorgeous. I knock it around with my band and it's just...(sigh), I never cease to get compliments from sound guys. "Man, your kit is amazing and that snare is so, balanced...focused. It's probably among the best I've ever heard." I love hearing that.

It cuts, it thuds, it's gorgeous and most importantly you don't have to sell plasma for three years to afford it. Go and get it.

(oh and if any of you crazy punk or metal drummers want to buy a SWEET snare that I'm not man enough to handle, shoot me an email chase.band@hotmail.com it's custom, it's maple, it's amazing. put in the heading "about snare"...later days)

What heads do you use on yours, and do you have to try different heads to get the different tones you describe? I just lost a bid on a 5.5x14 Oak Custom snare on the Bay, so I'm thinking of getting a 6.5x13 Musashi. MF has them for $199 :)

marco
09-11-2005, 02:15 AM
mine is a black panther premium maple (14 x 6.5 with die cast hoop)...it sounds really great in ANY tuning range. It is one of the most versatile snare I've tried and the price is reasonable.It was under 450$ (canadian)

Thinshells
09-11-2005, 08:14 AM
mine is a black panther premium maple (14 x 6.5 with die cast hoop)...it sounds really great in ANY tuning range. It is one of the most versatile snare I've tried and the price is reasonable.It was under 450$ (canadian)

The precious metal hammered series stuff is really great as well. The hammering takes away the standard resonances. You get that metal sound, but with a unique acoustic.

Thinshells
09-14-2005, 11:14 AM
My three snares:

Ludwig exotic maple bubinga (14x6.50 Yamaha oak (13x6.5) Pearl UCA 14x6.5

Hands down, my favorite is my 14x6.5 ultracast with 24 strand puresound wires. This snare does it all. Highly recommended.

aahznightsky
09-24-2005, 01:20 AM
Don't bash Ringo ... here's my lovely Bruford signature snare... it soooo loud (nine ply!) and it sounds amazing!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/aahznightsky/drumming003.jpg)

Thinshells
09-24-2005, 10:01 AM
Don't bash Ringo ... here's my lovely Bruford signature snare... it soooo loud (nine ply!) and it sounds amazing!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/aahznightsky/drumming003.jpg)

It kind of looks like a finish that was damaged by throwing paint thinner on it. But I agree, it is a very nice sounding snare.

CHASEdrummer.
09-30-2005, 01:35 AM
What heads do you use on yours, and do you have to try different heads to get the different tones you describe? I just lost a bid on a 5.5x14 Oak Custom snare on the Bay, so I'm thinking of getting a 6.5x13 Musashi. MF has them for $199 :)

Currently I use an Aquarian Studio-X because I wanted to try something a little different. Usually I use a Remo Coated Pinstripe. That gets the maximum versatility out of it. Good luck! (My band mates LOVE that drum...almost as much as I do!)...

cheers.

NouveauCliche
09-30-2005, 01:55 AM
I don't own...but there's no snare I want more than an original Gladstone snare. They were absolutely beautiful, innovative, and sounded AMAZING.

The Standout parts of a Gladstone:

-Billy only made 50 of them

-3 Way Tuning System: Billy invented the 3 way tuning system by which tuning of either the top head, bottom head, or both heads together is accomplished by using a 3-way tuning key that allows all tensioning to occur from the tension rods on the top head.

-Simple Snare Strainer: Billy designed a beautifully simple snare strainer that allowed for quick and easy throw off and engagement of the snares. The snare strainer arm moves away from the drum and is simple and extremely efficient.

-Adjustable Internal Muffler: Billy designed an internal muffler that was unique. The muffler utilizes a small lever on the outside, which points to a series of numbers. The numbers allow for the player to remember a particular muffling setting rather than having to guess. For orchestral work this feature is excellent.

In short...a killer snare.

Thanks to:
http://www.maxwelldrums.com/museum_gladstone.html

Where I got my info! Check out the site for more pics!

onemat
09-30-2005, 10:05 PM
the only thing imprinted on the snare is the slipknot S logo. look up pictures of it on the pearl website. i doubt that would be considered satanic, but some people in church could find it offending.

I don't wana offend anyone BUT...
1. Satan is an invention. He really don't exist. Satan is just a reflection of man's bad side.
2. If anyone at your church doesn't like what's on your snare, it's time to switch churches.
3. GO play and listen to a lot of drums. There's a ton of snares out there in the $200. range.
Matt

amardavid79
10-01-2005, 08:50 AM
I went to my local music store the other day and tried out nine different snares, every one had a fat crack and sounded amazing tuned up high; all were quite loud too. My ranking for the ones I tried: (PURELY personal opinion)


1. 6x14 DW Edge/////6.5x14 Pearl Reference (such a hard desicion, im gonna buy of these for sure)

2. 5x14 DW Collectors All-Maple

3. 5x14 Mapex Black Panther Exotic Walnut

4. 5.5x14 Ludwig Black Beauty

5. 5x14 Peal Chad Smith Signature

6. 6x14 Ludwig Maple (i forget exact model)

7. 5x14 Tama Kenny Aronoff Signature

8. 6x14 Ayotte Wood (I really expected to like it more...)

cjl71178
10-04-2005, 08:23 PM
Don't bash Ringo ... here's my lovely Bruford signature snare... it soooo loud (nine ply!) and it sounds amazing!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/aahznightsky/drumming003.jpg)

A friend of mine has the the 14" Bruford model and it sounds amazing. I like the finish
on his models.

cjl71178
10-04-2005, 08:32 PM
Here's the snares that I currently own:

6x14" Yamaha Anton Fig model (with wood hoops)
6x14" Ludwig Classic Birch snare (silver sparkle)
6-1/2x14" Pearl Session Series (early 90's in transparent green finish)
5x12" Pearl Firecracker (wood shell)
and the old reliable....
6-1/2x14" Ludwig 1970's Supraphonic

I just recently sold my 5x13" Yamaha Dave Weckl snare *sniffles* and a 5-1/2x14" Grover percussion snare. But I still held on to my favorites. My Pearl Firecracker sounds unbelievable for a 12" drum, and the price was cheap.

I also use Puresound snares.

I'm going to be looking in the future of either a 7x14 or 8x14...any suggestions??? I did have a Remo years ago and it wasn't that bad.

Wegadrummer
10-04-2005, 08:51 PM
I just bought a Pearl Cs1450 (Chad Smith signature) .. It was a little hard to tune, but when i found the perfect tone i loved it! and i still do..


http://www.drumcentral.co.uk/pics/snares/pearl/pearl14x5_chad_smith_snare1.jpg

NouveauCliche
10-04-2005, 10:19 PM
Here's the snares that I currently own:

6x14" Yamaha Anton Fig model (with wood hoops)
6x14" Ludwig Classic Birch snare (silver sparkle)
6-1/2x14" Pearl Session Series (early 90's in transparent green finish)
5x12" Pearl Firecracker (wood shell)
and the old reliable....
6-1/2x14" Ludwig 1970's Supraphonic

I just recently sold my 5x13" Yamaha Dave Weckl snare *sniffles* and a 5-1/2x14" Grover percussion snare. But I still held on to my favorites. My Pearl Firecracker sounds unbelievable for a 12" drum, and the price was cheap.

I also use Puresound snares.

I'm going to be looking in the future of either a 7x14 or 8x14...any suggestions??? I did have a Remo years ago and it wasn't that bad.



ack! That Weckl snare is one of my dream snares!

How does that Anton Fig sound? Looks absolutely killer...I can't imagine it doesn't sound it too.

James Walker
10-04-2005, 11:47 PM
I'm going to be looking in the future of either a 7x14 or 8x14...any suggestions???

They can be tough to track down (in terms of trying one out), but I've got two 8x14 Tempus (http://www.tempusdrums.com) snares (one carbon fibre, one fibreglass), and both drums simply kill.

Fur drummer
10-05-2005, 06:38 AM
I play mostly jazz and some rock. I don't want a lot of high end crack but a mellow, warm sounding snare. Thinking about getting a 5.5 X 14 Starcalssic Performer by Tama. It has a 8ply 8mm birch shell. Good choice, bad choice, what do you guys think?

Jomo
10-06-2005, 04:53 AM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b56/xprincesstimslyx/carterrrrrrrr.jpg

carter used it with dave matthews band on the central park album, i think he uses ocheltree snare drums otherwise. but anyway, this snare has the best ive ever heard. it exploads, and then you dont expect it to have such incredible sensativity at low volumes. no ring, overtones get a listen for yourself

Dude, that is the sickest looking snare i've ever seen...but im willing to bet its a huge piece of crap, and carter just plays it to prove that he can make amazing music in any drumset in the world...he's just amazing...

gar
10-11-2005, 10:28 PM
Has anyone mentioned the Yamaha bamboo snare? Tremendous...

incubotic
10-11-2005, 10:33 PM
oooo, i love carter's snare, real nice sound..i also love the DW edge snare..that has a perfect pop to it..similar to carter's actually. of course, with the emperors on it as well.

Garvin
10-12-2005, 07:22 PM
I play a Gretsch free-floating maple 14X5.5 and and Omar Hakim Signiture 13X5, but I've been reading a whole lot about the Worldmax Black Dawg, and it sounds like a killer snare for the price. There are some great reviews out there. It look great and sounds like it gives the Black Beauty something to worry about. Although I admittedly haven't played either of the two, I would love to order one of the Black Dawg's from Georges Drum Shop.

Sojo
10-12-2005, 08:24 PM
Im pretty happy with the snare I use. Its a 14x8 Tama Artstar from last year. I put some die-casts on it and use a clear remo CS on the top and the thin remo snare side. I forget what the head is called.

drummertilidie
10-13-2005, 04:34 PM
This is my first post on the site and i have to say that there are alot of beautiful snare drums out there.I have been drumming for over 25 years and choosing a snare drum is definitly alot harder now as there are so many choices.My advice would be to go to all the drum shops in the area and try them out.I just got my snare drum 2 days ago from the u.s(i live in canada)and for all you canadians out there,i have to let you know that i saved about 300.00 dollars buying it from the u.s.The drum is a 6 1/2" black panther hand hammered phosphor bronze snare drum and it is the wickedest sounding snare i have ever heard.It's got a high end crack and is definitly a loud snare.I also have a 6 1/2" black panther deep forest cherry snare with 24 karat gold hardware on it's way.I'll stick with black panthers.If you are going to try a bunch of snares do try the black panthers,i don't think you will be dissapointed,but thats just my opinion.

giantantreal
10-18-2005, 11:11 AM
I personally love black panthers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I havent seen many posts of people saying they like em as much as me! What is with you guys!

DW Edge also

Oh yeah, and pearl innovations, although the promotional video has dennis chambers showing off WAY too much


Always seeing the glass as half empty,

Giantantreal

Thinshells
10-18-2005, 11:18 AM
I wouldn't mind a Tempus carbon fiber or fiberglass. The shells are something like 3mm thick, very resonant, warm and loud.

neilismaximus
10-21-2005, 03:06 PM
hey everyone, im new here and i was just looking round the threads, i was going to buy a mmx snare but after reading this thread im begining to have second thoughts, no one seems to rate them as one they'd buy, for that kinda money what else do u think i should be lookin at? i play rock and like a sensitive snare

thank you

Dave99
10-24-2005, 06:05 AM
I just got my snare drum 2 days ago from the u.s(i live in canada)and for all you canadians out there,i have to let you know that i saved about 300.00 dollars buying it from the u.s.The drum is a 6 1/2" black panther hand hammered phosphor bronze snare drum and it is the wickedest sounding snare i have ever heard.It's got a high end crack and is definitly a loud snare.

Hey - I just bought the exact same Black Panther hammered phosphor bronze snare from Steve's Music in Ottawa. I paid their regular price, $400 CAD (not MSRP), which is on par with any American price I've seen on-line except no shipping or brokerage nonsense. They have shops in Toronto and Montreal as well and is my no-brainer one-stop place for all my gear.

I was a little skeptical about the this "Black Panther" thing but I put it head to head against ten other snare drums at the same price point or higher and it was the most versatile and sensitive snare drum hands down - even compared to a Pearl free-floating maple picolo and a Tama picolo. It also had the most playable dynamic range - that linear feeling of being able to play at all volume levels from ghost notes to super loud. Other drums felt like they didn't have as much in between volume levels. I was kinda surprised at the end of the day but I went for the sound not the name brand recognition.

gingermagic
10-28-2005, 05:49 PM
I have a Black panther which i cant find any where, not even on t'interweb!

It is a 14x6.5 black panther, but it was in the wrong packaging because someone mucked it up at the warehouse (which was good because with the shoddy labeling plus my brother's discount at drummer live, i payed £90 instead of £350)

It had egyptian heiroglyphs all over the side, and it is solid steel and i cant find it anywhere!

could anyone tell me the model number or details if they know?

thanx

Tylerdurden
11-09-2005, 01:33 AM
Here my favorites:


DW 5 x 14 Aluminum with the Nickelworks/MTM Kit and this drum ROCKS!!
DW 4 x 14" Collectors' with the Nickelworks/MTM kit
Pearl FFS 3 - 1/2 x 14 Brass Snare Drum
DW 3 - 1/2 x 14 Collectors' with the Nickelworks/MTM kit - this is an older snare - most likely pre-96
1966 5 x 14 Ludwig - who hasn't owned one of these?

tamadrumz
11-09-2005, 01:47 AM
wondering if anyone knows anything about the chad smith sig snare or the stewart copeland sig, bcuz those snares interest me, or if u know of any other sweet snare drums in the 150-350 dollar price range that i shuld look into, thanks

tamadrumz
11-09-2005, 03:10 AM
hey, i wuz looking into the chad smith or stewart copeland sig snares, and i wuz wondering if anyone had played them and could tell me about them, or if anyone knows of any other good solid snare drums in the 150-350 dollar range that i shuld look into, any help would be appreciated, thanks.

MetallicaItalian
11-10-2005, 04:02 AM
I am currently playing a Ludwig Acrolite 14" x 5" Snare Drum with the Evans ST Dry head and I love its sound. It's very reminiscent of Dave Krusen's snare from Pearl Jam's first album, Ten. I'm looking to upgrade it though. Of all the snare sounds I've heard my favorites would have to be Dave Abbruzzesse's snares. Songs like Glorified G on Vs. define he sound I want out of my snare. I know he favored 12" x 7" Brady Snare Drums. He was a recording genius though I mean almost a different snare sound for every song on Vs. Listen to Go, then Animal, then Glorified G, and then Rearviewmirror all of those are differences in snare sounds that were not caused by a simple head replacement or electronic touch-ups or alternate tuning.

I am looking for that Glorified G Dave Abbruzzeese snare sound ot the This Is not for You snare sound. I know there are studio variables but I've heard enough live performances of dave to confirm that what he played is around what I'm looking for. Though I tend to lean towards steel snares because i like their high end attack and focus Abbruzzesse's useda 12” x 7” Jarrah Block Snare, a 12” x 7” Sheoak Block Snare, and a 14” x 8” Jarrah Ply/White Gimlet Basketweave Snare all made by Brady which are way expensive since I would have to order it directly from Australia.

I've been looking into Joey Jordison's signature model which is 13" x 6.5" and I'm drawn to it though I feel it's almost too focused as much as I loike focused snare sounds I like a small amount of resonance rather than none at all. If anyone can tell me what they think of Joey's snare or give me any other ideas or suggestions as to something similar to Dave's I'd appreciate it. Sorry for the lengthy post i tend to babble.

gazelle
11-14-2005, 08:19 AM
Hey Im looking for a new snare around the 300-500 dollar price range and i need some suggestions please. Hey drummertilidie let me know what you think of the 6 1/2" black panther deep forest cherry

Thinshells
11-24-2005, 10:16 PM
Ok... here is what I found this month:

I really, really like my Pork Pie pig lite acrylic 6x14" snare. it does everything very well.

I found a snare that just rips the eyelids off my yamaha mususahi oak (13x6.5)

That's the Pork Pie pig lite 13x6 snare. OMG.... tuning range, power, projection and warmth totally rock!

This is a snare that I liked better than Craviatto solid shell snares.

Thinshells
11-25-2005, 10:22 PM
Update: I have ordered a Tempus woven carbon fiber snare, 6.5x14" in red glitter. $365.

http://www.tempusdrums.com/images/redsn.jpg

I will post pictures of the actual drum when I get it.

zildjian_dude101
12-07-2005, 06:30 PM
I am currently playing a p.o.s. Peavey snare, but I'm looking to replace it with a Yamaha Musashi, or a Joey Jordison Sig. The JJ Sig is so nice and has a great snap sound, with the bite of a piccillo (wrong spelling) at the end. The Yamaha Musashi is just my hands down favorite snare I've heard.

Thinshells
12-07-2005, 06:34 PM
The Yamaha Musashi is just my hands down favorite snare I've heard.

That's my side snare now. It is an amazing snare. And the price: Under $250 for that thing!

splashattack
12-08-2005, 12:54 AM
http://www.computer-technik-schnaeppchen.de/go/bilder/88/62/8862613.JPG

I think pearl make the best piccalo snares and the free floating system makes the snare sound ace

Zalloy
12-09-2005, 09:11 AM
I heard that free floater recently at a local club.
I was so supprised by it's sound... fat! ...with lots of snap.

bagsy911
12-16-2005, 11:47 AM
Hey everyone,

im only 14 but iu have been playing the drums for 3 year now and im ready for a new snare drum, The current snare drum come with a Mapex Pro M series kit which is pretty well.....crappy. Would enyone know a snare drum i could buy with a very crisp/sharp sound?

Thanks

Michael

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 11:55 AM
Hey everyone,

im only 14 but iu have been playing the drums for 3 year now and im ready for a new snare drum, The current snare drum come with a Mapex Pro M series kit which is pretty well.....crappy. Would enyone know a snare drum i could buy with a very crisp/sharp sound?

Thanks

Michael

1) $199 13x.6.5 Yamaha musashi oak


http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAMM02/Content/Yamaha/PR/NSD-1365M-small.jpg

2) $199 14x6 Pork Pie pig lite

http://fr.audiofanzine.com/img/produits/thumb2/6/2/62060.jpg

3) Mapex black panther (pick one)
http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2005/Black-Panther-Snares-sm.jpg
4) $340 Tempus carbon fiber 14x6.5
http://www.nickamoroso.com/images/gear/tempusSnareBig.jpg

bagsy911
12-16-2005, 12:09 PM
thx for dat man, correct me if im wrong but i heard there are types of snare drums called piccolo snares and apparently there give a very crisp sharp sound if so could u please recommend some to me

thnx alot

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 12:13 PM
thx for dat man, correct me if im wrong but i heard there are types of snare drums called piccolo snares and apparently there give a very crisp sharp sound if so could u please recommend some to me

thnx alot

Yamaha musashi oak 12x 6. Also, all the above companies have piccolo.

The yamaha is one of the most crisp and focused snares at any price.

TitanSound
12-16-2005, 12:30 PM
I have 13x3 Pearl Maple piccolo. Remo coated Ambassador on top and clear Ambassador on the bottom.

I have to spend a little time getting it tuned right when changing the heads but once I do I get a nice, sharp crack from it.

bagsy911
12-16-2005, 12:52 PM
thx alot guys....there also s a song by Renée Geyer called shakey ground i dont no if u guys have herd of it but the snare drum sound in that s the one im afta (also the whole drumkit has a beautiful sound to it) and yeh if u herd it u prob no wot mi tlkin bout.

thnks guys

mediocrefunkybeat
12-16-2005, 01:40 PM
How do you rate the Black Panther's Thinshells? This is a distant idea of mine, but you know the circle of gear improvement; there's always something new you want.

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 02:02 PM
How do you rate the Black Panther's Thinshells? This is a distant idea of mine, but you know the circle of gear improvment; there's always something new you want.

The few that I have tried were *magnificent*

My hands down favorite is the precious metal hammered phosphor bronze. I have to keep telling myself that I have enough snares. That one is next on my hitlist so to speak.
http://www.massmusic.net/shop/images/15213.jpg

The deep forest cherry and walnut had a dry, mellow sound but they were sweet! And the gold lug on cherry is totally gorgeous.
http://www.axemusic.com/Pictures/mapex_bpcw4650wn.jpg

mediocrefunkybeat
12-16-2005, 02:04 PM
I'll have one of your snares; if you're running out of space for them that is ;-). Well when I can drive and have some money to spare I'll definately be trying out a few snares down in London; see what I can get. My stock snare is ok; it just doesn't have the sensitivity I would prefer, it sounds a bit too harsh as well. I'm using a Hazy 300 and an Ambassador combination.

Could a brass or bronze wire help? Or would a 42 strand wire be more suited? I've seen a 42 strand Tama wire on sale and it was a reasonable price. Worth further consideration?

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 02:09 PM
I'll have one of your snares; if you're running out of space for them that is ;-). Well when I can drive and have some money to spare I'll definately be trying out a few snares down in London; see what I can get. My stock snare is ok; it just doesn't have the sensitivity I would prefer, it sounds a bit too harsh as well. I'm using a Hazy 300 and an Ambassador combination.

Could a brass or bronze wire help? Or would a 42 strand wire be more suited? I've seen a 42 strand Tama wire on sale and it was a reasonable price. Worth further consideration?

Bronze and brass made my ludwig sound darker. Something like the puresound blaster will give it more bite, and the 42 strand would help.

Note: high end snares of 16 and 20 strand blow away almost all stock snares that have more strands. I have dynamicx 20 strand on my yamaha, and they are as crispy as all get out. And more resistant to sympathetic buzz.

mediocrefunkybeat
12-16-2005, 02:14 PM
How about changing the snare side head to say, a Hazy 200? Volume isn't really a concern. How much difference would that make? God I feel like a newbie. In all honesty, I cannot tune a snare well for toffee.

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 02:19 PM
How about changing the snare side head to say, a Hazy 200? Volume isn't really a concern. How much difference would that make? God I feel like a newbie. In all honesty, I cannot tune a snare well for toffee.

The hazy 300 has a slight decrease in sensitivity for the payoff of a fatter sound and less buzz. best for rock/prog/pop

The hazy 200 is more sensitive, and appropriate for jazz and classical.

mediocrefunkybeat
12-16-2005, 02:21 PM
Better wires it is. Right now I'm trying to play classic rock alá cream and occasionally jazz-rock, so I'll stick with the 300 for versatility. How much do you pay for a good set over there out of interest?

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 02:25 PM
Better wires it is. Right now I'm trying to play classic rock alá cream and occasionally jazz-rock, so I'll stick with the 300 for versatility. How much do you pay for a good set over there out of interest?

Anywhere from $19.95-$50

mediocrefunkybeat
12-16-2005, 02:27 PM
Depressing really; always works out to a hell of a lot more over here. Well that'll definately be something to buy with my Christmas money, a new set of snare wires. I'll probably go 42, it'll only ever be an improvement. Thanks mate.

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 02:28 PM
Depressing really; always works out to a hell of a lot more over here. Well that'll definately be something to buy with my Christmas money, a new set of snare wires. I'll probably go 42, it'll only ever be an improvement. Thanks mate.

Don't forget to post findings... I will be interested , because I have never heard a tamburo snare.

mediocrefunkybeat
12-16-2005, 02:33 PM
I'll post a quick recording up sometime soon. Just give you a rough idea of what I'm playing on. It's a decent snare, Poplar/Ash mix seems to work quite well and the throw off is quite nice, it has a nice fat sound from it but this is often juxtaposed with quite a lot of brightness. Nice if you can tune it I suppose.

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 02:38 PM
I'll post a quick recording up sometime soon. Just give you a rough idea of what I'm playing on. It's a decent snare, Poplar/Ash mix seems to work quite well and the throw off is quite nice, it has a nice fat sound from it but this is often juxtaposed with quite a lot of brightness. Nice if you can tune it I suppose.

I just dug this interesting info up about ash:
White Ash is 105% as hard as red oak (AFAIK red oak is what Yamaha uses for the musashi oak) (1320 on the Janka scale vs.1260 for red oak)
Poplar is only 540.
http://www.wflooring.com/Photo_Gallery/Hardness/White-Ash.gif

mediocrefunkybeat
12-16-2005, 02:40 PM
Yeah, I found that the other day. What I should do is work out the 'average' hardness, I suppose it works out somewhere like 900. I would like maple, but Ash/Poplar has a nice sound to it. Next time around I'm going for G2s to try and get a thunderous tuning. The bass drum is very nice, got a real 'thump' to it, but it's tuned very low. A powerstroke 3 came with the kit and that's what I'm using.

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 02:46 PM
Yeah, I found that the other day. What I should do is work out the 'average' hardness, I suppose it works out somewhere like 900. I would like maple, but Ash/Poplar has a nice sound to it. Next time around I'm going for G2s to try and get a thunderous tuning. The bass drum is very nice, got a real 'thump' to it, but it's tuned very low. A powerstroke 3 came with the kit and that's what I'm using.

Sounds like a "turbocharged" pearl export snare. Poplar gets extra bite from the ash. The material on the inside ply will be the predominant sound. Poplar does sound warm, it's not bad- but the ash will help it project better to be sure.

mediocrefunkybeat
12-16-2005, 02:51 PM
I'm not sure on the ply arrangement, that's something I can't find out, I would think it's the ash though. It's not a deep snare at all, it's a 14" X 5" IIRC the Pearl Export snares I've used are 14" X 6" or 6.5" but you're probably not referring to the mid-nineties Steel ones.

I hate the Pearl Export Steel Snare with a passion.

My Tamburo has a very powerful rimshot. Christ; talk about hijacking a thread! Sorry people!

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 03:13 PM
I'm not sure on the ply arrangement, that's something I can't find out, I would think it's the ash though. It's not a deep snare at all, it's a 14" X 5" IIRC the Pearl Export snares I've used are 14" X 6" or 6.5" but you're probably not referring to the mid-nineties Steel ones.

I hate the Pearl Export Steel Snare with a passion.

My Tamburo has a very powerful rimshot. Christ; talk about hijacking a thread! Sorry people!

I think the ash (at least in part) is on the outside. The grain will give it away, because poplar has very little. The best arrangement would be ash--poplar-ash.

I was thinking more about the export drums than snare, but my thinking's muddled due to a hangover.

Anyway, I hate the vast majority of steel snares. They are too harsh in the near field for me.
http://www.thomann.de/prodbilder/175646.jpg
Hey! I just noticed the bright Paisano's at tamburo are using yamaha-style hardware... big thumbs up!

mediocrefunkybeat
12-16-2005, 03:21 PM
I agree, I was very surprised to find that this kit had a wooden snare, I was very pleased when I found out. Just saw it in a music shop and inspected it and well; the rest speaks for itself. Anyway, anyone who wants a slightly different kit with some good features should check it out. Well built (not as good as Sonor or Yamaha, but hey). And actually damn versatile too.

Oh and yes, the hardware is great. I love the tom mounts, so versatile and easy to use. All the right bits are there and it feels very solid indeed.

Right; enough plugging Tamburo. They should pay me for all the publicity I do.

G-MaN91
12-16-2005, 03:45 PM
definately check out black panther snares, they have so many snares you can choose from, im sure youd fine a sound you love in one of them. i just picked up a premium birdseye maple 5x14 and its amazing. and personally, i wouldnt get a piccolo. theyre fun for a while, but they soon get old. the first new snare i got was a piccolo, which i really liked at first, but after a while i was really craving the sound of a regular size drum.

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 04:16 PM
definately check out black panther snares, they have so many snares you can choose from, im sure youd fine a sound you love in one of them. i just picked up a premium birdseye maple 5x14 and its amazing. and personally, i wouldnt get a piccolo. theyre fun for a while, but they soon get old. the first new snare i got was a piccolo, which i really liked at first, but after a while i was really craving the sound of a regular size drum.

Something goofy about the finish seclection.
Birdseye maple has a distinct, and beautiful grain.

This is craviatto natural birdseye:
http://www.coloradodrum.com/pics/200431822297.jpg
Here is the mapex
http://www.blackpanthersnares.com/images/products_premium_birdseye.jpg

It's just twisted and sick to paint FLAT BLACK over a woodgrain like that.

At least yamaha had the sense to make the black over musashi oak a transparent color to show the grain.

What's next? Gloss neon lime wrap over waterfall bubinga?

G-MaN91
12-16-2005, 04:23 PM
yes, i agree. but that picture does the drum no justice. you can still clearly see the grain and it looks great with the black hardware.

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 04:28 PM
yes, i agree. but that picture does the drum no justice. you can still clearly see the grain and it looks great with the black hardware.

Do you go to Daddy's in Portsmouth, or into Manchester for drum gear?

I stopped by blue mtn guitar center in West Leb last july. They have quite a few yamaha kits.

Keller shells is in NH as well...

G-MaN91
12-16-2005, 05:13 PM
Do you go to Daddy's in Portsmouth, or into Manchester for drum gear?

I stopped by blue mtn guitar center in West Leb last july. They have quite a few yamaha kits.

Keller shells is in NH as well...

if im buying i a big item (new kit, cymbals, snare) i go to the Drum Shop in Portland, ME. if im just going to get new heads or sticks, something like that, ill got to Earcraft in Dover, NH (about ten minutes away from somersworth). i hate going there though because the people who work there are absolute jerks and there prices are pretty high. Daddys i dont really like either, nor does my drum teacher, or other drummers and musicians ive talked to. i dont think they have the greatest stuff instock and i dont think the workers are very helpful or polite. never been to a place in Manchester. where is Keller shells located in NH?

Thinshells
12-16-2005, 05:31 PM
if im buying i a big item (new kit, cymbals, snare) i go to the Drum Shop in Portland, ME. if im just going to get new heads or sticks, something like that, ill got to Earcraft in Dover, NH (about ten minutes away from somersworth). i hate going there though because the people who work there are absolute jerks and there prices are pretty high. Daddys i dont really like either, nor does my drum teacher, or other drummers and musicians ive talked to. i dont think they have the greatest stuff instock and i dont think the workers are very helpful or polite. never been to a place in Manchester. where is Keller shells located in NH?

I thought daddy's (like the one in Vermont) was rinky dink. Advance music is the only real choice I have unless I drive out of state. Even then, Advance has some very young dudes on staff.

Keller shells:
P.O. Box 4105
41 Union Street
Manchester, NH
03108

603-627-7887.

WeatherKing
12-18-2005, 01:28 PM
Thinshells, or anyone else who knows,

Sort of an arbitrary inquiry here, but figured this thread would be appropriate. I've always loved the sound of Chris Layton's snare (Stevie Ray Vaughn)...in particular the sound he has on the Instep album. If you've happened to hear his stuff, do you have any idea what he's playing?

Once I get my set cleaned up from storage and tuned up, I'd like to start adding on. A new snare is a must. I've always loved piccolos but for some reason, a deeper, warmer sound with a good pop is appealing too. I've done a lot of searches on Layton and can't really tell from any of the pictures.

Thanks for any help!

ClockworkOrange
12-18-2005, 02:15 PM
WK, when I saw layton he was a Tama player, if memory serves me correctly.
He had a ludwig supra and a tama wood shell that he'd use alternately on stuff.

But, in the studio, all bets are off. Guys that endorse one company think nothing of using whatever gear will get a type of sound they're going for. ie Vinnie Coluita endorses gretsch, yet, uses a ludwig snare on stage and in the studio.

Oftentimes, unless you're in the studio at the time of recording, or the drummer says he used whatever, there's no way of really knowing.

WeatherKing
12-18-2005, 02:44 PM
WK, when I saw layton he was a Tama player, if memory serves me correctly.
He had a ludwig supra and a tama wood shell that he'd use alternately on stuff.

But, in the studio, all bets are off. Guys that endorse one company think nothing of using whatever gear will get a type of sound they're going for. ie Vinnie Coluita endorses gretsch, yet, uses a ludwig snare on stage and in the studio.

Oftentimes, unless you're in the studio at the time of recording, or the drummer says he used whatever, there's no way of really knowing.


Thanks for the info CO! That will give me a good starting point as far as testing out new snares when I get enough $ to buy. I've tried doing a search for Modern Drummer interviews where perhaps he's mentioned what he's used in the past. Maybe someone here has read those in the past somewhere. It's a long shot, but, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

FabPorkPie
12-24-2005, 11:33 PM
Any pork pie snare.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/FabioSKA/prkvented.jpg

averypoordrummer
12-27-2005, 01:40 PM
1st ever post!
Erm, iv only been drumming for a while and iv only played a few snares. i own a cheap kit and managed to break the snare drum that came with it. i then replaced it with a yamaha v power steel shelled monster. 14 inches across, 6.5 deep. it is so loud and has amazing attack and tone, you feel it as clearly as you hear it. it will hold up well in any type of music, i know because iv used it in everything from acoustic rock to heavy metal and every single time everyone i was playing with commented on how loud it was and how good it sounded. not bad considering i only paid £36 for it on ebay! however, its not very sensitive, and on ghost notes all you hear is the top skin, not the snare wires at all. still i love it and i think it was a great find! how i wish i could afford a new kit!

ibangdrums
12-28-2005, 12:01 AM
I like DW Snares maple Collecters series 5x14 and 5.5x12. Also i have a modern drumshop snare drum 5x14 that sounds awesome as well

Loge
12-30-2005, 04:38 AM
My favorite all around snare is a Pearl Custom Z in Champagne birdseye maple finish. Though it's a rather thick maple ply shell, it was designed to behave very much like a solid. Very responsive at all volumes. Warm with dark overtones. 'Active' snare system makes for a real cutting crack. Think it was a pretty limited production run (early 90's) as I don't see them much.

Lil' Drummer Boy
12-30-2005, 04:40 AM
I Like The Looks Of Lars's Signature diamond plate snare

math_metal_182
12-30-2005, 01:08 PM
What is the point of buying a good snare? Doesn't it sometimes get to you that there is so much you will never be able to do in drumming...for example, play at the speed of light with one finger, or play along to an infinate number of completely different songs at different tempo's and time signatures and tuplet values, at the same time. You will never be able to play more than 4 different things at once without using electronics because you only have 4 limbs, or play so fast on the bass drum (even with double bass) that all your hits blend together to make a note of a definate pitch and you can play actual melodies on your bass drum (or any drum). You will never be able to even play a groove in exact timing, so you snare lands within the nano-micro-whatever second, right where it is meant to. The ultimate aim of any drummer should be to be able to control time itself, and it is something we will probably never achieve, so what is the point?

TitanSound
12-30-2005, 01:45 PM
Well I dont quite see how your point relates to having a good snare or not.

Not every drummer plays as you describe. A crap snare sounds crap and a good snare sounds......good!
Snares are one of the most versatile drums sound wise as you can have so many combinations of heads, snares, tightness of snares, looseness of snares etc..

2 people could have the exact same snare but get 2 different sounds out of it. Thats why it makes sense to buy a decent quality snare.

Drummer Karl
12-30-2005, 10:25 PM
I think this snare is just great!!!
I have them! Very good price I think!

foursticks
12-30-2005, 10:59 PM
Ludwig snares are usually fantastic in my opinion...

TitanSound
12-30-2005, 11:49 PM
I had one of these before but it was stolen.

I am planning on buying another early next year.

http://www.drumatix.com/Snare%20Drum%20Gallery%202D/PearlBrass6.5FreeFloater1.jpg

brittc89
01-01-2006, 01:20 AM
I just bought a stainless steel Dunnett, 14x 6.5, and it sounds absolutley awesome. It has an amazing range and sweet tone.

PdoubleE
01-01-2006, 03:14 AM
The musashi line of snares(The whole 2 of em) are Great for the price!! for under 200...you really cannot go wrong!!!!

MilfordCubicle
01-02-2006, 12:48 AM
Hey, I am in the market for a new snare, and I'm thinking of buying a Pearl Sensitone Snare. I was wondering about peoples opinions, and for the people who have heard or played to let me know if it would be a good buy. Thanks.

drumaddict21
01-02-2006, 01:24 AM
hey everybody i was thinking about getting a new snare . i want a yamaha but i dont know what snare i should get. i was thinking about the musashi but im not sure



thanks

Slayer_metal_head
01-02-2006, 01:39 AM
Hey man do you want a smaller snare or a 14" or 15"?

The firecrackers are good for smaler snares im going to buy one sooner or later!

drumaddict21
01-02-2006, 04:19 AM
no i was looking for a 14inch snare not a side snare

PdoubleE
01-02-2006, 05:03 AM
hey everybody i was thinking about getting a new snare . i want a yamaha but i dont know what snare i should get. i was thinking about the musashi but im not sure



thanks
The 13"musashi sounds better than Any snare in its class imo. you should really check it out...maybe have a local shop order it for ya and then try it out there. But for the price...it Really is amazing !!!

kzdruma
01-11-2006, 05:55 PM
I love my Yamaha Stage Custom Advantage. It has those new nouvue lugs. GREAT SOUD

Sparkletone
01-12-2006, 11:07 PM
Anyone ever hear of Sonic snare drums? Me neither. But what a nice surprise! I started a thread about it here: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=62699#post62699

famousteo
01-13-2006, 08:46 PM
i bought a "PACIFIC DRUMS AND PERCUSSION SNARE series 805" it's GREAT !!!!

i love it, it has a very pure and clear sound

if u don't know... PDP is a sub-brand of "DW drums"

Zumba_Zumba
01-14-2006, 09:53 PM
All of you have very nice snare drums. They are fun to collect but have a funny way of getting expensive real quick. My favorite snare is my 1962 Rogers Dynasonic. Maple shell and bread and butter lugs (for you collectors out there) with steel grey ripple wrap. Found it (and the matching 13/16/20 kit) in a guy's barn - no joke. When I make money I will collect more vintage snares.

human beatbox
01-15-2006, 02:22 PM
My £500 ludwig 400!

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Stu_Strib
01-15-2006, 02:26 PM
I am in the minority in that I have a main snare sound I look for on any and all things I play, and then a secondary smaller snare.

All my drummer friends have tens of snare drums. I sold two recently, so I'm down to <<GASP!>> one snare drum.

I understand the whole "different voice" thing, but for me, a good voice goes a long way on any recording, for any style of music. The aux snare is for those rare moments I want a different sound.

kacperivo
01-15-2006, 08:29 PM
I'd say, be cool. Take Gretsch Round Badge. Ebay's full of 'em, and man, they SOUND ! Doesn't matter what size, they just have 'the thang'. Of course not for all types of music.

toolskid
01-17-2006, 06:17 PM
soon to be released are the new Bleifuss Boutique Aluminator snares!! UNREAL - one of the very finest snares I have ever played. Paul's got several in production at the moment and they should be available soon!! I'll post some pics when I can get them!

All the best!

rendezvous_drummer
01-18-2006, 06:08 AM
Any Dunnett snare is awesome. Also this snare called Sonic, it's all maple with die cast hoops. All for 89$ canadian.

pounder
01-24-2006, 01:29 AM
I have been casting about for quite a while for a good metal snare, and after much shopping around and dithering, I think I have settled on the snare that I want: a 6.5 in Ludwig supraphonic. But I need some advice.
First, I love the sound Bonham got, and I'm told other rock drummers with sounds I like (like Alex Van Halen) also play Supraphonics.
But I understand they're not all the same. For example, some are made with brass with a chrome finish -- is that correct? I just want to know what model to get if I want that nice, deep, cracking sound that Bonham and Van Halen get.
And how much should I pay? I'm seeing used snares in the $300 range on ebay, but they are typically vintage 70s snares, and many have pitting. How much should I pay for a new one?
I live in Canada, and it looks like our import taxes are a hell of a lot higher than the U.S., because a new Ludwig supraphonic here will cost me more than $600 Canadian (about $516 U.S.)
Any Canadians out there know any American music dealers who will ship a snare to Canada so that I don't have to pay an arm and a leg?
One other question: is there another snare that gets the same kind of sound that won't break me financially that you would recommend?
Any advice much appreciated.

icystyck
01-27-2006, 12:54 AM
try those yamaha signature snares, alittle expensice tho. check out the Steve Gadd or Davis Garibsldi models

RJ2k8
01-31-2006, 01:14 AM
I use 2 different snare types , its all about the mood.

How do the longer snares like the pictures of the ones u posted sound like?

walkera1962
02-01-2006, 09:06 PM
Hello,

I just purchased a Ludwig s402 superphonic and sounds great!

Rickenbacker
02-02-2006, 09:55 AM
Here is the aim!

http://www.premier-percussion.co.uk/uploads/info/2206_14x7m.jpg

PreppieNerd
02-07-2006, 12:12 AM
I am going to attempt a good request for info post:

The request.
I am looking for a primary snare with a fairly wide range of tuning, but sticking generally to a mid-to-low pitch. I want a sharp response, but preferably not a piccolo. I want it to be less than 5 inches deep. I don't care whether it is wood or metal. Price doesn't matter much as long as it is reasonable (less than $500) and worth it. My musical styles are: jazz, rock, and pseudo-metal. What is the snare for me? Ask for clarifications.

PdoubleE
02-07-2006, 02:43 AM
I dont think that you are gona get the sound you want with a snare under 5 inches.....but it is possible.....Most piccolos are under 5 inches..and if you looking for sopmthing to tune lower i would go with a 6.5......And like i Preach to everyone...The yamaha Musashi is Really versitile. It can sound like a really hight tuned piccolo or a can go nice and low and have alot of punch. Its 13X6.5 so can be used as a Main or aux snare. Its a sensitive snare also that would be awsome for jazz. and It is Awsome for Prog/metal. Check it out..oh yeah..its also under 200$

Kaden
02-08-2006, 08:52 PM
I'm currently goin' nuts trying to find a brass shelled 14x3 Pearl picollo...Absolutely the most versatile, sensitive, player friendly snare I've ever sat down to. My original was from '92...I sold it under duress, and have pined for it ever since.

Really freakin' loud, too.

K

adorno
02-09-2006, 04:16 PM
Saw this on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ludwig-Supraphonic-400-Chrome-10-Lug-Snare-Drum-60s_W0QQitemZ7387452033QQcategoryZ64434QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem


Firstly do you think it's the genuine article?

It looks a bit knackered but I'm not too bothered about that - I'm more interested in how it sounds. Do you think the superficial damage on the side will affect its sound quality?

The seller says the snare wires are not original but then I have read in this thread that people have changed the snare wires anyway.

All in all I just wanted to get people's advice (and hopefully not get embroiled in a bidding war with someone from these boards!)

Thanks

adorno
02-09-2006, 05:09 PM
Saw this on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ludwig-Supraphonic-400-Chrome-10-Lug-Snare-Drum-60s_W0QQitemZ7387452033QQcategoryZ64434QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem


Firstly do you think it's the genuine article?

It looks a bit knackered but I'm not too bothered about that - I'm more interested in how it sounds. Do you think the superficial damage on the side will affect its sound quality?

The seller says the snare wires are not original but then I have read in this thread that people have changed the snare wires anyway.

All in all I just wanted to get people's advice (and hopefully not get embroiled in a bidding war with someone from these boards!)

Thanks

There's only an hour left before bidding ends - any help please people?!

larkin42
02-11-2006, 03:10 AM
I want to buy a new snare. Right now I have a Pearl Professional Series Steel snare made in the 80's I believe. It does sound fantastic, the best sounding steel snare I have personally ever heard. But I am looking for a good wooden snare. Does anyone have any ideas for a decent wooden snare I can get for around $100 or less. Dont have to be new, I will buy used... Any Ideas greatly appreciated.

Mcbrain
02-11-2006, 03:15 AM
Make one....
Get a Keller shell some decent hardware and a good throw off....Bet you could do it for around 100.00 give or take a few bucks.......You will be suprised how cheap it can be....Cheers !!!!!!!!

larkin42
02-11-2006, 03:35 AM
That is exactly what I was thinking, didn't know it would be that cheap though.

Louis tbh
02-11-2006, 01:22 PM
I own a CB beginners kit. I have done pretty much everything involving the tuning of my drums. I am pleased with everything but my snare right now. My snare has been a real nightmare.

I have Evans HD for the batter, Some Aquarian side snare for the reso. I don't like the buzzing this drum gives me. There are 6 lugs per hoop and I am looking for a snare drum that is easier to tune. Preferably with 10 lugs so I can make the tention around the snare bed different to else where.

I play most things, but mainly rock music and heavy rock music. However, I am still learning so I want this snare drum to be versitile and suitable for playing styles of music which I want to learn in the near future.

I want a quite a bright sound which is quite focused, but still has a little decay and a ring afterwards.

As for the budget, I will happily spend £200, maybe £250 on this snare drum.

Oh, and can someone explain to me what snare beds are, and what to look out for. I don't want a snare that buzzes alot when I don't hit it.

I also plan on buying a sonor 3005 (and selling the snare drum with it) with a Red and Black Piano finnish, so I may be fussy about the finnish.


Thanks in advance for any help.

Drummer Karl
02-11-2006, 01:38 PM
hello,

try the Dennis Chambers oder Chad Smith Signature Snare Drums! but I don`t know whether they are in your price range...but they are good.

Karl

pcmckay
02-13-2006, 04:09 AM
The best snare drum I have ever played is the 6.5 x 14" Ludwig Suprahonic Steel chrome snare drum. It is very versatile for rock, jazz, country etc. This drum in my opinion is the drum in which all snare drums are measured. This was the indusrty standard in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. Also if someone researched this I bet this drum (including the 5 1/2 x 14") has been recorded on more popular music from those time periods then any other drum. What more do you need? It projects well, but at the same time is very sensitive for softer music. It is the perfect tool for any kit.

onemat
02-13-2006, 05:51 PM
I'm down to two snares...I sold a bunch in the last few years due to financial problems. I use a 5/1/4 Black Beauty for almost everything. The only thing I've done is gone to a 42 strand snare which gave the drum a wider range. I also have the current Maple PDP snare which is OK, but not like my old Jazzfest. The only snares I've sold which I regret were my '67 5-1/4 Supra, my '66 Jazzfest, and my 70 6 1/2 Supra. I hope to own those drums again.

TopCat
02-16-2006, 07:52 PM
hey, im currently using the Pearl Chad Smith sig, was the first snare I bought *tear.

I'm looking to get another, I like the crack the CS has but I wanted to get something with more warmth. I have gone through this thread, but was hoping to recieve some opinions of those having played the CS and could offer an opinion on other snares in comparision.

cheers

PreppieNerd
02-24-2006, 09:32 PM
Is there a snare out there with a dark, jazzy tone when hit in the center, but has a sharp, cutting rim shot?

franklinj
02-24-2006, 09:38 PM
Has there been any word on the new Vinnie Paul signature snare? That thing looks frikkin sweet...

I need a realease date and an estimated price range. I think that will be my next snare.

rockitman
02-25-2006, 02:19 PM
Is there a snare out there with a dark, jazzy tone when hit in the center, but has a sharp, cutting rim shot?

I have just been shipped my new Yamaha Absolute Custom Birch. With it I requested a
an ACB 7 X14 snare. Nice and dark, maybe a little deep for your needs, but also has a great rimshot crack, easy to tune and control, even with the stock Yamaha / Remo ambassador on the batter. What I like most about it is it's tone when played quietly.
If your looking for dark, try a birch snare.

FFO - DRUMMER
02-26-2006, 08:01 PM
hey i was thinking about gettin a 14x4 serpentine piccolo snare by ocdp. but do you think it will sound weird as a main snare.

hardhitter
02-27-2006, 04:07 AM
I just got a new Pork Pie Vented Snare! What a Snare! This snare is the best I have ever played. I can't believe it really, no tape or any muffling at all.The rim shots are hits are so loud on this snare ! But it's not cheap at all. I think the list was around 1,100.00 us. I didn't pay that but what a snare !

alberto_marconi
02-28-2006, 03:39 AM
hey guys, i'm needing some help again. i've been drumming for 6 years but i'm quite a newbie when it comes to equipment, and most of the things i know i've learnt from you guys thanks to this great forum. So be sure that your advice will be heard.
This is the deal: i'm looking for a new snare drum, and i kinda got tired of getting cheap used stuff, so i've decided to make an investment on my durumming future. i swear i spent one hour searching through the forum, but i haven't found that much info and need a more "personal" answer.
i've been to the biggest drum store in my city today (i'm from argentina) and tried two snare drums with great interest: the omar hakim sig. and a 1994 used supraphonic. i liked the warmth of the omar, found it very responsive and sensitive and i'm seriously considering buyng it (although it's $ 400, almost two times it's price due to my country's overpricing), but i find the idea of playing a 13 inch snare as a main pretty intimidating. i'm mainly a rock-pop drummer so that gives me a little hope.
the supraphonic is an industry standard as i've heard, and it sunds great. i should have spent more time tying it, but quickly fell for the looks of the hakim's mahogany shell. both cost about the same, so it's a tough choice to make.
any comments? what do you guys think? what should i do?!? i'm kinda desperate here, and they only have one unit of each, so help is needed.
I thank you all in advance!

One Bad Pig
03-01-2006, 05:08 PM
Hey Guys,

I am looking at buying a Mapex Saturn Pro drum set, but I was wondering what the snare drum that it comes with sounds like? Does it also have the two plies of walnut? What heads aound good on it etc

Justin

tomtom
03-04-2006, 10:04 AM
Is there a snare out there with a dark, jazzy tone when hit in the center, but has a sharp, cutting rim shot?

Dunnett Titanium, 6.5x13.

tomtom
03-05-2006, 05:47 PM
hey, im currently using the Pearl Chad Smith sig, was the first snare I bought *tear.

I'm looking to get another, I like the crack the CS has but I wanted to get something with more warmth. I have gone through this thread, but was hoping to recieve some opinions of those having played the CS and could offer an opinion on other snares in comparision.

cheers

Can´t say I´m a big fan of the CS, but if you´re looking for a drum with crack from hell (or heaven), articulation, lots of body, sensitivity, then the Brady jarrah ply 5.5x14 is awesome (I own one). Chad Smith actually uses this model a lot (according to interviews). The only "downside" to this snare is the price.

TopCat
03-05-2006, 07:29 PM
Can´t say I´m a big fan of the CS, but if you´re looking for a drum with crack from hell (or heaven), articulation, lots of body, sensitivity, then the Brady jarrah ply 5.5x14 is awesome (I own one). Chad Smith actually uses this model a lot (according to interviews). The only "downside" to this snare is the price.Ohh wow, thanks. Yeah i'd imagine that brady costs the best part of a 1000usd.

kzdruma
03-09-2006, 06:34 PM
I own a Pearl Masters Custom snare that I love! It sounds great! It was only $300

stianr
03-13-2006, 06:34 PM
I bought a Ludwig 14x6,5" brass today. It was really a big upgrade from my last snare, which was a standard Tama Rockstar 14x5". I really like the loud sound from the Ludwig!
I got it for 2000,- NOK (norwegian kroner) = $300. (Yeah, it look's kinda expencive, but drums cost's alot over here).

The drumhead it came with is really bad, and I'm not sure what kind of head i'll put on. I like alot of depth (bass sound?).
I got Evans "Super Tough" on another snare i own, which really stands up for its name, but I think it's too thin. Any suggestions? I play mostly rock/heavy.

Yeah, I suck at english.

Sirwill
03-16-2006, 11:10 PM
Call me Old School if you like. One thing I always get good marks for is the sound of my Drums. I use Ludwig 6ply Maple Kit with 3"x13" Ludwig Maple snare. I use Remo FiberSkyn Heads. To me the heads are the overall best sound. They are very warm and full sounding and there is really no need do even dampen them. Also I have found the older they become the better they sound.

paradiddlellogram
03-17-2006, 06:18 PM
In my dreams I have two snares. One is a 6x14 steel shell because although I can understand people who say they like warmth, the crack, sensitivity and high ring appeals to me most. I also have a 4x13 auxiliary maple snare because I want the pop and crack that this would probably give (I think!). I foolishly tried to make my rubbish 5x14 six lug unknown wood snare sound like both of these and failed dismally both times. I think I'd like a black beauty.

hateplow
03-24-2006, 03:27 AM
My 2 favorites
-6x14 Starclassic G Maple Black Cherry finish with Chrome hardware. (On special order, coming in the mail in May)
-Yamaha Mike Bordin Signature Copper 6.5x14 (Some day she will be mine, oh yes.)

(no-logo)
03-24-2006, 06:23 PM
Black Panthers are great value for money in my opinion.

brass 12inch pack a punch!

Keagan
03-25-2006, 08:14 PM
I don't know if anyone has tried the new Rush 30th Anniversary Neil Peart Snare Drum, and I know it's a bit expensive but man, it sounds awesome and looks great with a really subtle sparkle finish. I am not usually a big fan of signature stuff because it's so sound specific but this ones a winner.

DoubleBassUrFace
03-27-2006, 04:25 AM
love the way custom drums play.

take for instence this truth chamber snare, my dream snare, 1400 i think for a 14".

this, is my dream snare

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/Rockoutwithyourcockout/snare76.jpg

WeatherKing
03-28-2006, 08:24 PM
Anyone have a Pearl Export ELX 14 x 5" snare? I'm pretty sure they are common but I saw one at the shop today for about $130 and sounded pretty good...nice pop and better than the limited selection of other snares. Any comments from those who have played them before? Wondering if I should snag it soon.

human beatbox
04-08-2006, 06:54 PM
http://www.drumvillage.com/images/Coco%20snare%20webpage.JPG

Try this, its pretty tasty.....

I like the Black Beauty snare though.

mojoe104
04-10-2006, 10:55 AM
Whats up people

I've been contemplating buying a new snare, and have been looking at the Chad Smith Snare, and the Pearl Ultracast snares. I've played around with the chad smith snare at the store, and have only heard the ultracast once. I didnt really get to mess around with them like i really wanted.

obviously a difference in price, but i was wondering what anyone had to say about either of them? Would you recommend them? Is the ultracast worth the price? Does the CS sound too tin-ey?

I've been having a hardtime finding people who can give some info on the ultracast.

I'm looking for a snare i can tune pretty tight and get a good crack out of, but still have lots of ghostnotes cut though, as well as have good tone and body at a lower dynamic of playing.

Any other suggestions/reviews would be awesome.

My primary style is hard rock (ie the stylings of chad sexton (my hero) of 311, and abe cunningham of Deftones)

thanks guys

-JOE

Doc
04-18-2006, 03:06 AM
My primary snare is a Pearl M1330 Maple Piccolo. It's got a great popping sound, and the ghost notes are beautiful. It has loads of low-end for a piccolo, and sounds good at any tuning range. 3 x 13

http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/0/1/1/259011.jpg

I also have an Ian Paice signature snare which I hardly use anymore, I took the snares off and I use it as a side snare, it's got a Danny Carey-ish snare-less tone that Iike to play with sometimes.

Kevinm
04-21-2006, 05:07 PM
Two of my old time favorites Rogers Dynasonic, and Ludwig Supersensitive.

Rafoo
04-29-2006, 06:39 PM
I have a ludwig classic birdseye maple. GREAT SNARE DRUM ! But for me the best snare drum is a bel brass sonor sig Horst link 14*6.5.

Red Sky Drummer
04-30-2006, 06:17 AM
Hey, I'd like to find out what Jojo Mayer used in the drummer convention. I know it's Sonor, but is it maple? Bumbinga?

I think he used an ambassador on it, since it was sonor head.

To me, it was the ideal snare sound. Any info?

figure_02
05-02-2006, 04:04 PM
I dont know if this has been asked before, but I just wondered, in the song "Atwa" of System of a Down, Dolmayan play a pretty cool groove, where we hear his snare pretty good. Im looking for a new snare and thought a sound like that wouldnt be to bad!
Any suggestions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-CPjO3_RAs&search=System%20of%20a%20Down

kaptainsteve
05-08-2006, 04:27 PM
what's the real diff (if any) btwn ludwigs' 400 & 300 import versions of the same
snare (both supraphonics if i'm not mistaken)?

Rafoo
05-08-2006, 05:10 PM
Anyone has ever heard an Highwood drums snare drum ?

http://homepage.mac.com/gheeley/highwoodsiteyr2/content%20images/exotic/DSCF0032.jpg

Mdrummer
05-09-2006, 07:55 PM
This is my favorite snare drums (I own both):
6,5x14 Tama Starclassic Maple,
5,5x14 Tama Signature Simon Phillips "Gladiator"

Beat Poet
05-11-2006, 03:59 PM
I'm going to get a new snare in the future and will go and test some out. Before I do though, can anyone describe what a copper snare sounds like? I've been thinking about the Pearl FC-1435/C. I love the sound of the brass version and it's close to the sound I'm looking for but would prefer one with a slightly darker, rounded sound.

organochloride
05-12-2006, 11:36 PM
Im wanting to buy a new snare but im not really sure what to go for. Any sugestions?
If you can afford it, a vintage Dyna-Sonic Rogers snare drum, wood of course

SOGdrummer
05-15-2006, 03:41 AM
Just recently purchased a Yamaha Anton Fig Signature Snare, 14 X 6 maple with maple hoops.

Great sounding snare, plenty of crack and great rim sound as well.

Solid black gloss and the natural maple hoops make it a great looking drum as well.

themac5150
05-15-2006, 08:19 AM
I bought a worldmax black hawg 6.5 x 14, to try out, and I love the thing. The strainer leaves alot to be desired. I even left the stock heads on it! I'm gonna keep this one.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/themac5150/blackhawg.jpg

drumer3914
05-16-2006, 08:06 AM
MY FAV SNARE I KNOW IS MAINLY AN EFFECT SNARE, BUT THE 7X12 MAPEX BLACK PANTHER DELIVERS A NICE CRACK AND HAS A FAT SOUND WICH I LIKE FOR PLAYING HARD ROCK.

~tamadrummer~
05-19-2006, 12:51 AM
Any hear from the Vinnie Paul snare yet?

Jivi
05-20-2006, 10:17 AM
Does anyone know if the Joey Jordison signature snare is any good?

hatebreed
05-20-2006, 10:13 PM
Hi, just wondering if anyone knows what a tama starclassic g maple 6x14 snare sounds like cos i just bought one without trying it out. Thanks.