planet z's on ebay

[drummer_14_92]

Heres something cool, i just bid 10.00 for a pair of relatively new planet z hi hats on ebay, don't give me flak, cause if i win, then all the power to me, theyre brand name, so yeah, they aint those 30.00 no name, at least theyre zildjian, i hope i win

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

They're Zildjian, but they aren't Zildjian if you see what I mean.

Just because they have a name associated with them doesn't make them any good...

[drummer_14_92]

at least they aint no name

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

You'd probably be better off with no name cymbals to be honest. Why don't you just listen and not buy them? We've all told you enough times that they're a pile of rubbish and yet you continue to be completely oblivious. It's not clever and it's only going to waste your money. Do not buy them.

They are NOT quality, they'll break in five minutes and worst of all they don't even sound good, you're better off cutting bits out of plywood and using those because they're going to be less offensive to your ears and at least you'll have something to hit then!

Brand does not equal good. That's why Planet Z's cost thirty dollars and Zildjian A Customs cost three hundred dollars. They don't even put the Zildjian name on the Planet Z's! So even your brand argument is utterly devoid of any meaning.

[drummer_14_92]

if i win, i still save money though

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

No you don't, because in a year's time you'll be wanting something better and having to spend the $300 on the cymbal you ACTUALLY want. Why not start saving now and wait to get a playable, good sounding cymbal?

[laurence_drummer]

Mediocre Funky Beat is more than right!

Trust!

Laul.

[drummer_14_92]

they would only be for practice and if i win for 10.00, its better than paying 30 to 40 for off brands

[Tuxido]

Brand names dont mean anything, unless you like looking at logos, if i want to buy cheap cymbals, go for wuhans, at least theyll sound good.

[dom]

planet z is pretty much an off brand of Zildjian. Just because something is zildjian doesnt make it good. if you just save you will be happy with what you can get zbt or b8s are 10times better than planet Zs are and there isnt anyone here that would choose those for their hats either

but this really doesnt matter its your money so do what you want

[dom]

unless paiste nosieworks any cymbal made of brass isnt gunna be good

[drummer_14_92]

too late anyway, i got outbid, but im going for sabians

[emmerson]

too late anyway, i got outbid, but im going for sabians

..... i dont even know what to say anymore .....

[drummer_14_92]

on sabians though, these aren't too bad, are they

[dom]

it depends what you are talking about sabian solar are crap b8s are a step up the xs20 is getting there and anything above that should be great.

the only good thing about plant Zs and solars and any cheap beginner cymbal is that they will suck no matter what style you play

[BarryBuchanan]

Planet Z r good if ur a very bottom beginner..but if ur a hard player or whatever 6 mounths dwn the line they will crack, sound even more awful and u will have 2 spend more money...so ur better off paying 40 and ending up wid a set of hihats tht last longer and sound nicer. I sugest Sabian B8 as a good sounding budget cymbal

[Zildjian 242]

Zildjian dosent even market Planet Z's, Nor Sabian marking solor and pearl cymbals. I wonder why?

Because there left overs of scrap metal so they could maybe make a few extra bucks

[drummer_14_92]

im winning on the b8s, they are the used ones but thats better than the ones i have now, im not a hard hitter at all and don't play hard, especially when my nephew(10 weeks old) is around, but he never cries when i play, he even kept quiet at church when i did the little drummer boy on christmas eve in front of everybody(200+ people), of course this is only the hats, i still need a ride and i don't even have one right now, im using the 16" crash ride that came with my kit and it is horrible sounding, on video tape, the paiste 101 crash and the wuhan china i have sound nice, the hats and crash ride though, id rather listen to nails on a chalkboard

[thumper]

Save up a bit more and check out the used section in your music store. You may be amazed at what you may find. Planet Z, Solar and crap like that are just a waste of time and money in my opinion...If you can get Wuhan cymbals,( judging by my 16" China), I think you'd be better off. At least they are made from B20 Bronze, and hand hammered....

[drummer_14_92]

well i won the b8's for 35.00

[AvengedDrummer]

Get something good. One top of the line cymbal is far better than any amount of Planet z's or b8's.

[tamadrummer132]

avenged.. YOUR WRONG!

its all on personal preference. i agree to 98.99999999999999999% of drummers.. planet Z's sound worst then mounting your trash can lid. and im one of them. BUT its his drumset, and if he likes the sound then go for it.

personally, i hate most K custom crashes, and their dry rides. they dont project enough. but those cost $250+

i also hate Z custom mastersounds that cost like 280 bucks. and i like my 70 dollar b8s more... so, he may not know wat hes doing, but personal preference should be making the final decision (spelling?)

[Celereon]

^^ I agree with tamadrummer.

After all, I absolutely LOVE my Planet Z hi-hats.
Sure the crash sounds...ugh...GONGy, and the ride has far too many overtones.
But I've tried hi-hats from Sabian AA to Paragon to Zildjian K&A Customs.

Only ones that came close (this is personal preference mind) were the Sabian Paragons.
I wouldn't mind the Zildjian K Customs either.
So that's really weird...but I'm happy, so who cares...
Weird logic too
:D
Cel

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

B8s are definitely an improvement over the Planet Z's. Although I would've still advised something of a higher quality, at least the B8s are going to last you more than a month, so it's an improvement at least.

[ImpaledRound]

avenged.. YOUR WRONG!
planet Z's sound worst then mounting your trash can lid. and im one of them

excuse me, tamadrummer132, do you speak from experience?

http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/elisreed/compressed-2006_1225xmas_day0031-1.jpg

with trash can lids?

but yeh ... planet z's suck. at least my lid can maybe raise a smile.

[BarryBuchanan]

well dun on getting the b8..i do agree tht they are still pretty bad but atleast they r better than the planetz or solar range!

[drummer_14_92]

now all thats left is the ride cymbal, any recommendations?, i don't even have an actual ride cymbal yet anyway

[tamadrummer132]

if your low on cash, try every beginner ride cymbal they have and pick your favorite. thats wat i did when i needed one, and im still cool with the one i got to this day.

[drummer_14_92]

what brand is it, is it no name or a lower quality brand name, i might just borrow one from my school or repair a cracked zildjian 18", all i have to do is drill a hole to stop the crack, other than that it sounds really nice, i could try a brass one, my paiste 101 crash is really nice

[_Ryan_]

You know, you should have went with the PST5 rock pack. You could have got a pair of 14" Hats, a 16" Crash, and a 20" ride all for under 300 bucks.

[Shinx]

Stop buying low quality cymbals!

They might sound "ok", but most of them are utter garbage no matter how much you can convince yourself otherwise

[ImpaledRound]

Hey drummer_14_92, you have Rogers hi-hats --- what model??

[drummer_14_92]

i have no clue, they are covered in dents and bent a bit, they just came with the kit, and i only buy the lower quality cymbals cause i need cymbals for practice but have no cash, all my performing is done with the schools kit and zbt cymbals, i got no cash, i can't buy nice cymbals without cash and im not gonna have cash for a while cause im restoring my 79 trans am, the hood bird alone costs 300-400 dollars

[pdp 9091]

stop wasting time AND money on budget cymbals. Invest some money into good used A customs, A's, Sabian aax's, hhx's, paiste 2002's ect. Youll be much happier

[drummer_14_92]

i can't even afford those, my budget is about 40 to 50 dollars for a ride cymbal now, unless you know a shop that has them, ebay is too unstable and bids get too high

[tamadrummer132]

sell the trans am?:D

lol jk.

craigslist.com

GO there, find your city, and see if there are any cymbal posts. you can try the cymbals out first, and there is no bidding. TRY it

[drummer_14_92]

i checked craiglist, my city aint listed and all the close ones don't have it, i aint selling my trans am ever, even if i get married

[Backwards Marathon]

yeah im kinda in the same situation. Im either going to buy like 3 cheap ZBTs, or one real nice cymbal, and im not sure what to do. I know its the wrong thing to do, but ill probably end up buying the cheap ZBTS lol.

[rhydianjlewis]

Paiste 101 is the best out of the 3 crappy cymbal packs, so get that over the others. Everyone keeps refusing to listen to the fact that you have no money, and if you do upgrade each cymbal for something that costs $200 your $30 101 ride wont take a major chunk out of your budget.

Actually better still go for Wuhan i've changed my mind, i got a 12" wuhan splash for $20 and its awesome, and they're so cheap. And also stagg cymbals are ok budget cymbals. Dont buy brands at this level, you'll just be paying for the name.

So ignore what I said in the first paragraph and get wuhan or stagg.

haha :D

[outtastix723]

You'd probably be better off with no name cymbals to be honest. Why don't you just listen and not buy them? We've all told you enough times that they're a pile of rubbish and yet you continue to be completely oblivious. It's not clever and it's only going to waste your money. Do not buy them.

They are NOT quality, they'll break in five minutes and worst of all they don't even sound good, you're better off cutting bits out of plywood and using those because they're going to be less offensive to your ears and at least you'll have something to hit then!

Brand does not equal good. That's why Planet Z's cost thirty dollars and Zildjian A Customs cost three hundred dollars. They don't even put the Zildjian name on the Planet Z's! So even your brand argument is utterly devoid of any meaning.

I've had Planet Z hats for over a year now and they haven't broke. I play everyday. With age they sound a bit better. They also have "Zildjian" on the bottom of them.
But, they don't sound good. I agree with you there I mean, it's really crap when you listen to some A Customs or 2002's somewhere, then go home having to beat on Planet Z's... I'm just glad I didn't buy them and that they were a gift.
I'm looking to get some higher end cymbals once I get myself a job. I really like the sound of the A Series from Zildjian, and the Z Customs.
But dude, you gotta listen. Go with sound, not brand.

[texasdrummer123]

hey man i understand ur problem because i have the exact same rogers kit, these people are telling you go b8 or go a custom but u need a hybrid that is affordable. u want the good sound of a new cymbal but just have no cash. what i did to tide me over until i could afford nice cymbals was buy some used paiste 802's (crash, hats, and ride) from my brothers friend for only 120 and he even threw in stands! even tho u might not get such a good deal if u can find some 802's they will be well worth it. now i have a customs because i had bearable cymbals that gave me time to save up without havin crappy cymbals in the mean time.

ps: u can get better positioning of those toms if u lower them. and try to invest in a new pedal the one with the kit sucks(iron cobras r reasonably priced), look in to some evans g2's also, and a new snare is a good idea 2 (tama artwoods are a good buy)

hope i helped

[drummer_14_92]

i did fix the tom mounts, those were only temporary while everything was moved, the drums are in my bedroom now and i added a pdp 402 double pedal, i think i have to upgrade the hi hat stand later but its fine now

[texasdrummer123]

yea i had trouble with the high hat stand also. yamaha has sturdy hardwear when ur in the market

[pdp 9091]

i did fix the tom mounts, those were only temporary while everything was moved, the drums are in my bedroom now and i added a pdp 402 double pedal, i think i have to upgrade the hi hat stand later but its fine now

Your hi hat stand is fine for now. Your main concern should be cymbals

[drummer_14_92]

only the ride left and im getting nowhere on the cash, harmony central aint helping much now either, plus, i had to get ammunition for shooting yesterday

[texasdrummer123]

well if u want more cash u need to save. if you are serious about drumming you will need decent gear and will need to prioritize that if possible

[drummer_14_92]

crash rides are usually cheaper than the rides, i know that riding on them they sound similar to ride cymbals, and i might buy one but i was wondering if they would work for main ride, i think they are really just ride cymbals made slightly differently

[kung_f00]

well if u want more cash u need to save. if you are serious about drumming you will need decent gear and will need to prioritize that if possible

a-men.

drummer_14_92: You keep telling us how you want to upgrade your drumset, get nice cymbals and whatnot.. but at the same time you're spending $300-400 on a car. By the way, didn't I read somewhere that you're 14? I'm no lawyer, but can you even have a permit at 14? And car aside, you're also spending money on ammo to go shooting, and who knows what else. Is that more important to you than drums?

Here's the cold, hard truth: You will NOT get anywhere in drumming by going for a quick fix. Most of my cymbals and drums are of poor quality, and I waited MONTHS before I could afford some decent cymbals. I held back from buying certain things I wanted to buy because I knew I could save that money and get some really nice cymbals. If you continue to insist that you spend what little money you have on other things rather than waiting and saving up for that really nice cymbal you have in mind.. then you've effectively dug your own grave. And stop settling for lesser cymbals just because this is your 'practice kit'. That's really not an acceptable excuse to be wasting money on low-end cymbals like Camber or Planet Z. Yes, the B8s are a good start (considering your kit is relatively new) and MAYBE if you save your money for a few weeks you could buy a Sabian AA ride or something at the same level. But this requires you to stop spending money on the little things, and maybe even forego spending money on your car. Besides, you're 14 years old, for chrissakes. When I was 14, I was lucky to have a 10-speed bike and you're dropping $300-400 on a TransAm.

Take a second to consider all this, then ask yourself what's more important to you: drums, or other extraneous expenses.

[drummer_14_92]

ive actually halted payments on the car for a bit for this, payments are far between and i haven't had a payment for 3 months because of all the cymbal work, im still a relative beginner at drums but i am serious about this, i can't even buy red bull, just for the record, the trans am was on sale for 1200 dollars down from its original price of too much and its really nice shape and the guy whos selling it i know very well, and the ammo was only a dollar from a friend

[=J=]

Hmmm, iv sorft of lost the plot of this thread. But for the record Paiste 101s are by far the best brass/entry level cymbals you can get. I started with a set and still use them fro practice!

[texasdrummer123]

yea i think the bottom line is you should look into paiste because they make good budget cymbals for a good price. if you buy budget cymbals buy them knowing you will want to and need to replace them evantually.