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12-21-2006, 03:09 AM
Superior music has these cymbals that it says are made by sabian, they are brass but they are cheaper than the 101s from paiste, the brand is camber but it says made by sabian and i think they could work for practice cymbals but won't get bent up as fast, i have a 101 crash and brass works for me, it has rock hats for almost 50.00 and about 30-40 for the ride, the site is http://www.superiormusic.net/index.php?cPath=188_222_225
I know you may say go for better more expensive stuff but you have to remember, a job for a 14 year old that pays nice is hard to come buy here, if you have 100.00 youre lucky, so I can't buy any of the really good stuff, so im fine with brass for now, and it says they are manufactured my sabian so it can't be all bad, please respond
12-21-2006, 03:40 AM
I'm not completely sure dude, I mean its EXTREMELY cheap cymbals and plus you're buying them off the internet. I would try to find some place where you can test them out and atleast consider some ZBT's or B8's.
12-21-2006, 03:45 AM
If I recall correctly (please correct me if I'm wrong), but Camber was bought up by Sabian a while back as an offshoot to make cheap cymbals, and I believe Camber originated in Germany as well (not positive), giving Sabian a bit more of a base. Camber cymbals are not manufactuered to the same standards as any Sabian cymbals however. I would at least go with B8's or ZBT's or something of similar quality. I guess if you're just going to use them for practice and never let anyone else hear them, they'll be fine, but I would use them for nothing beyond in-home practice. Even then, I personally can't bear the sound of bad cymbals (which is why I now wear active noise-cancelling headphones while I play- then it makes my cymbals sound decent to me).
I know they're cheap, but they are significantly worse and more fragile than another step up. The decision is up to you, but I think in a year or less, you'll find yourself wishing you had saved a little bit more. Check around on ebay for some cheap cymbals- occassionaly you'll see some Tama generic cymbals show up for real cheap (20" ride, $15 the other day), and they are definitley worth the price- mine has lasted 2 years of serious playing without any issues.
12-21-2006, 04:08 AM
looks like its time for a trip to the second hand shop. Find one ore buy used cymbalS. Before you know it you will be 16 with alot more skill (trust me) and wondering what ever posessed you to buy those cymbals (i've been there) and good luck convincing you're parents that all cymbals aren't equal (from experience, its impossible).
Buy DECENT quality cymbals. Super cheap cymbals have no re-sale value so if you want to buy them look for them second hand, Dont buy them new. Your $50 will turn into $10 with camber like my $170 will turn into $130 with Zildjian. If you cant make the initial investment, wait, for your own good.
12-21-2006, 04:30 AM
Having unfortunately played Camber cymbals.. they're not worth it. They may be durable, but they're certainly not any good.
I know I've already told you this, and people on this thread have as well.. go with ZBTs/B8s. Brass cymbals, no matter who manufactures them.. are not worth the money. Christmas is coming up, and even if you don't have the money they are worth saving up for.
By the way, that link you posted also shows Wuhan cymbals. If you're absolutely desperate for new cymbals and can't wait to save up, Wuhan would be a better route than Camber or any of the other brass cymbals you might find.
This is a set of ZBTs for $150 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Zildjian-ZBT-3-Holiday-Pack-with-Free-10-splash?sku=445950). If you can't convince your parents to help you pay for that, I don't know how else to help you.
12-21-2006, 05:27 PM
Before you know it you will be 16 with alot more skill (trust me) and wondering what ever posessed you to buy those cymbals (i've been there) and good luck convincing you're parents that all cymbals aren't equal (from experience, its impossible).
I am a living example of that- 2 years ago I thought it would take me until I was 25 to get where I am now- but now I'm wishing that I had gone for a professional-level kit and cymbals back then instead of intermediate. Also, I've been working on my parents for months about cymbals, and every time I play them a sound clip of a B8 vs an HHX, they always say the B8 sounds better- best of luck with that...
12-23-2006, 02:04 AM
i may buy them for practice at my house cause all of my performing is with the schools drum kit and they have some nice zildjians so im not that worried about sound
12-23-2006, 02:05 AM
plus i can't use ebay, i don't have paypal or a credit card, and ebay isn't always honest
12-23-2006, 02:10 AM
by the way, are there any shops around enid oklahoma with used cymbals, im unaware of any and barely any shops have cymbals, okc is the closest with a shop but i don't know where any are besides GC
12-25-2006, 05:10 AM
To be totally honest, I would definately stay away from Camber. Wuhan, though, brings up an interesting point. I bought an entire set of Wuhan S Series cymbals, and these things rule for low volume jazz gigs. Really dark and trashy (we've all heard their chinas) rides, that just hisssssss forever. I see you have a Rogers kit, so if you're at all interested in playing jazz, I can recommend the Wuhan S line, and they're dirt cheap.
12-26-2006, 03:12 AM
Ill take a look at the wuhans but ill only buy the cambers if there the only thing i can afford, i did get 28 bucks from my aunt for christmas and that will help, what i did get for christmas was a pdp 402 pedal and its way better than my first pedal
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