Travis Barker

[Alk3fan]

Among what i see through teenage drummers and listeners, Travis Barker is highly over rated. Most teen drummers talk about how 'awesome' Travis is and how he is 'the best'. Mainly they think that being lightening fast determines a good drummer. That's all i hear my peers talk about. No doubt Travis is an excellent drummer, but i would rather see him be admired for his excellence than how fast he can move or being Blink 182's famous drummer. Personally, I much prefer Mr. Barker as the drummer for the Transplants rather than Blink 182. And how come Steve Gadd or Vinnie Colaiuta hasnt had a TV show?

Does anyone agree with my opinion or am i just talking nonsense?

[DogBreath]

So you're saying he's both fast and excellent, but you'd prefer him to be admired for his excellence rather than his speed? Believe me, there are plenty of people admire him for the "right" reasons.

=-)

http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Travis_Barker.html

http://www.drummerworld.com/pics/drum7/travisbarker.jpg

[Alk3fan]

I guess i cant quite get the point across i was trying to make. Or maybe its just me talking nonsense. hah.

[LiquidSoul546]

i can see what your sayin. personally, i think travis is a very talented drummer, i just think he should work on his feel.



PS.and the reson steve gadd or vinnie don't have their own tv show, is directly because their were never really popular like him in the non drummer world. but they have something he doesn't............instructional DVDS!! yay.. haha so that means we can try and be the next them!!
peace

[Alk3fan]

haha. I was just kidding around when i said why didnt they have their own shows.

[Wegadrummer]

i think that travis is a amazing drummer.. but, he is so popular you know. and if you are popular, people wants you for everything.. tv is a good example, so.. travis got his own show..

[Raymond Bloom]

Travis is a good, well trained drummer, that's all. End of story.

He is just more popular among non drummers (and young drummers who were non drummers :D ) than, for example Billy Cobham (who is, no doubt, genious)...

Actually I liked what Bernhard sayed in some of his posts... (not precisely what he sayed, something like that)''if people start playing drums because of him that is good!'' They eventually sooner or later will go into complicated stuff

[onggie]

Travis is a good, well trained drummer, that's all. End of story.

He is just more popular among non drummers (and young drummers who were non drummers :D ) than, for example Billy Cobham (who is, no doubt, genious)...

Actually I liked what Bernhard sayed in some of his posts... (not precisely what he sayed, something like that)''if people start playing drums because of him that is good!'' They eventually sooner or later will go into complicated stuff

Yeah nicely said!

[Stu_Strib]

I love this forum! This is the only forum on the internet (yes, I've checked them all, hehe) that can have an intelligent discussion about Mr. Barker without a huge fight breaking out.

My opinion is that his playing style is difficult to play, yet highly annoying. Other bands and drummers play difficult parts with music that can be slightly-to-extremely annoying, but I like them (Rush, Chic Corea Elektric Band, Cobham, Steely Dan, Dream Theater). The drumming in these bands is so amazingly talented and difficult, that it makes it easy to look past whatever annoyance the rest of the music brings (Rush's vocals, Corea/Cobham/Steely Dan dated 70s sound, Dream Theater's pretentious difficult-just-because music). The same can't be said for Blink-182. He obviously doesn't suck, but his taste is far different than mine and much different than the legends like Gadd and Coliauta.

I've also noted on more than just a couple of songs, Blink 182 has real problems with their tempo. It may be intentional by the producer, but I'm never a fan of studio music that has obvious tempo variations.

His videos on drummerworld are the worst examples of good drumming of all the ones Bernhard has posted. Everytime someone says how 'awesome' Travis Barker is, I ask for some sort of amazing footage (such as that new Benny Greb guy), but nobody can come up with anything. Every video I've seen is just him playing semi-fast 16th notes, marching drum style, with lots of flashing lights. He is much better than that on some of the Blink-182 recordings, but again, he plays stuff just to play stuff, and it gets annoying.

Thanks for the mature discussion on this topic, and lets hope all the "Travis Barker RULZ!" crowd stays away from this thread.

stu

[Superlow]

I agree with most of what people say about Travis being popular. I guess he deserves a place in drummerworld due to popularity and that's about it. He isn't playing anything that hasn't been played before. There are some drummers in that genre who don't get enough recognition. Brooks Wackerman for Bad Religion being one of them. Travis is a lucky a guy, he was in the right band at the right time. Blink182 are a bunch of good looking guys who play music that appeals to a demographic that likes to buy lot's of merchandise and music. He has his show on a channel that like to sell lot's of crap to a certain demographic that is known for buying lots of crap due to watching that certain channel. There is no mystery there. I think as far as his solo's are concerned they lack texture and feel. There is no build or culmination into anything. He shows off how fast he can play and badly segways into an off tempo break-beat. Not impressed.

[C_H]

travis has some speed...... thats about it IMO.....sorry but... ya know

[Dill X]

The deal with Travis Barker is that he isn't a highly-acclaimed and talented drummer like Vinnie or Gadd or Cobham, but he is still extremely talented. Travis Barker is a high-class celebrity, no argument needed there. Because he is a huge celebrity people who don't know drums will see him and say, "Wow this guys amazing." Their facts are based on what they think makes a great drummer, and usually it's speed, their "look," and power.

Then there are people like most of us who are drummers and have seen what it takes to be put up on the pedestil as an amazing or unbelievable drummer. When Travis Barker is compared to many other drummers out there he may fall short, but he has the upper hand over them because how many drummers are as massively main-stream as Travis Barker. For example if Vinnie C., Virgil Donati, or Cobham were as famous as Barker in every way, then maybe people would realize what it takes to be a great drummer. You get what I'm trying to say? Travis Barker has just set a standard for the non-drumming community and those who don't know much about drums

So in the end Travis Barker is a great drummer, but not an amazing drummer (i.e Cobham, Rich, etc.)

[Bozzio-v-portnoy]

^^^ what he said. I thought he was really good when i first heard him, then i listened to more technical stuff (Dream theater for one) and realised that barker isnt god, just good.

[Rudy McRudster]

Barker isn't a bad drummer but I don't think he's very good either. He gets done what he's supposed to do in his line of music, but he doesn't really try to innovate or improve like Wackerman or even Freese.
A lot of people argue about his corps background, as do people with Joey Jordison, the little rudiment video on here didn't really impress me either. It was very show-style with the stick clicks and kind of crass but that could be because I'm used to listening to real corps drummers perform amazing shows with great ease. What he did is very high-school level.

[Stu_Strib]

Exactly what Rudy said about the rudiment video...

[Anchein Vouivra]

Far too good drummer to be called a PuNk rock drummer, and absolutely no punk attitude, a more MTV obedience attitude. But I do appreciate his energy and technic.

[Darmikalus]

GRRRR it pisses me off the fame travis gets, i honestly do not think he is anything special, or really that fast....i see his solos on this site, almost all snare, and he needs some big ass stuff going around him in order to get a rise out of the crowd. i do think the only reason he is regfaded as the best drummer is becasue of his band;s fame, mostly becasue people are ignorant to classic and prog rock..i mean bozzio, peart, or portnoy are so much freakin better but, he gets all the fame....it sometimes makes mewant to kill someone

[funked_up]

he puts on a good show, that is about it. he is fast yes, but can he groove? NO. his tempo is usually always fast. and i hate blink 182. he is every non-drummers favourite drummer, because he is fast, has a mohawk, and lots of tatoos.

[stagecustom]

haha ^^^ very funny post. Back when I first started drums i would think Travis was such an awesome drummer, then I started to listen to slipknot and thought joey jordison was an awesome drummer. But as time went on and I did my research, and really started to become more innovative with my drums, I noticed that travis and joey arent everything, yes they are extremely fast, and of course joey is, but I think I have a little more respect for joey, because he has a background in jazz, yet i havent seen him play jazz, but i would like to. Anyways back to Barker, good drummer, can put on a show, but that is what he is... he is basically a show, but i think in the next 5 or 6 years you will see a new barker since he is getting in to this whole producing gig, and learning music, maybe you will see him slowly evolve in to a better drummer, you never know, so do dont hate cuz hes get a fine ass wife also

[G-money]

I like him ok as a drummer, but as a person he seems like an egotistical jerk. Maybe i'm way off here, but thats the vibe i get from all his T.V. apperances and interviews. He's all "I'm so hardcore."

His style of drumming is very simplistic, which doesn't bother me, but "punk" drummers usually are self-taught and aren't articulate at all. I think he stresses "image" both visually and auditorily rather than expanding his sound. That makes him suck.

[LiquidSoul546]

hah, wow, bernhard just showed all you guys up haha. and if travis was here on this forum, he'd prolly not give a care, he's rich haha. but like i beleive i wish he could work on his feel. i'm a freak about that. cause unlike buddy, or gadd, when they play rudiments they don't play them like rudiments, do you know what i'm sayin? chris penn said this ina moderndrummer, i can't find which one right now.
peace

[Ed Long]

Personally, i like Travis, i understand why people dont like him and as i have become more interested in drumming and listened to a lot more different drummers i have come to realise that despite his style (of apperance) and speed, he is not as good as i once believed, however as a young drummer i admire him as after hearing him and watching him (despite not liking Blink 182) he was an inspiration to me to start drumming. So i will always like him because of that.

[Elemental Nausea]

Unlike some of you here said, barker isn`t self-taught and has a jazz background(in teaching at least) as you can read in his profile on this page here...and he is a very good, technical drummer I think, but the point is, I guess, that he has stopped working hard to become better and better because now he is famous and rich, has a beautiful wife and maybe sees no more need to keep on practicing a lot

[ErNeStIn_182]

Travis Barker is GOD he is an AMAZING drummer most of the people just like him because they listen to blink 182 but its not that i love blink 182 they are my gods but i admire travis for lots of things. he´s got style, he is fast, he knows how to make rythyms with just a little guitar riff or 2 wordss from a song HE IS THA MAN

[Raymond Bloom]

The trouble with Travis, Joey is that they are popular to non drummers, well ok, they are TOO popular! It is just annoying when someone says ''Travis is a god! Ptfe, Steve Gadd? Gadd who?'' That is actually the main reason (IMHO) of all these arguments about them. Just because it annoys when someone haven't got a clue what is he talking about.

I respect Travis for the thing he does, I know that he is well trained and he is no doubt a great drummer, just people shouldn't get into these kind of radical discussions...
Travis is a good drummer. End of story!!

There is no one like ''the best'' (except Buddy Rich :DDD ) There are drummers that are ''some of the greatest'' and if I say one of the greatest then he has done something that no one has done before or because he has something really special.

When someone says ''the best'' it sounds like he is talking about car races or whatever kind of sport...
Music is not a sport...it is not a competition either...

[Darmikalus]

Travis Barker is GOD he is an AMAZING drummer most of the people just like him because they listen to blink 182 but its not that i love blink 182 they are my gods but i admire travis for lots of things. he´s got style, he is fast, he knows how to make rythyms with just a little guitar riff or 2 wordss from a song HE IS THA MAN


ok.... A) of course he can make rythms from a few rifts or a word from a song...he only knows 3 rythms....
B) selling out to the social norm is hardley style
C) he aint that fast...check out buddy rich, or portnoy, or a dead seal....theyre faster
D) he aint that damn special

[Bernhard]

I like Travis - great style and all.

But for staying with sports: When he would race a formula one race he even couldn't follow the pace car - and he knows it and agrees, that's make him sympathic.

Bernhard

[pinkdice]

Hello everyone,
I'm new here in the forum. I'm a begginer drummer, well I've been playing about 3 years on and off but it really only seems that I've been playing less, I really should practice more (just tell it to my parents who can not stand it) but in any case, I do love drummin and as far as Travis Barker is concerned, he may not be the "best" but just because he is famous and whatnot, doesn't mean he ain't good either. I think he is an excellent drummer. He has brought a lot of different things as far as drummin is concerned to the kind of music he plays, you can't really compare him to any other drummer who plays in a pop punk band. ANd he does have great technic which is something you do not see in a lot of famous bands...

Travis is coolio.

I myself prefer Tre Cool but that's another story.

[darkcherryfade]

Nothing he plays is very difficult, and he's not that fast. When I hear his solos, it sounds like he thinks solos are ALL about speed. He plays just like most of the customers I used to get annoyed with at Guitar Center. But he's not a bad drummer.

[beat1212]

the thing with travis barker is that you have to undrestand that he is in a band with musically challenged ppl and as you might know alot of the blink 182 record and some of the transplants record was based off of his drum parts wich means he made the drums beats first then the other guys did the guitar and bass parts over it. So think about it if travsi started doing liek crazy odd time signatures and sincopated beats that arent straigth forward it would be way to hard for the other guys in his band to make anything up to. also you have to give him credit for what he has done is his genre compared to all the other bands.(example ecorprate marching is his music)

regarding his solo how its not very hard its because the kids who come to the blink show usually arnt like great musicains and mostly dont play music so he has to do a solo that impresses and they will enjoy since they paid 35 dollars to get in.

But he does have formal traning and he can do alot more than what he has donn with his bands.

[needforspeed182]

There really cool! Check them out!

[thrashed]

they look cool! perfect for different styles in a song...

[needforspeed182]

Yah exzactly, you could play cool beats with the mallet on the ride and stick on the snare

[ErNeStIn_182]

I myself prefer Tre Cool but that's another story.

omfg, tre cool is no good at all he has his good things and that but he just knows how to hit the drums and cymbals thats it, he doesnt do anything special i think he sux a little bit. Travis rulez


thats MY opinion i know some people may not like it and some yes but thats what i think you gotta respect me.

[mediocrefunkybeat]

Where's your supporting evidence? Which songs does Tré suck on?


'thats MY opinion i know some people may not like it and some yes but thats what i think you gotta respect me.'

I don't agree with your opinion... but why should I respect? You make no clear argument as to why Travis is so good.

[ErNeStIn_182]

theres no need for an argument or thats what i think.

does tre do something special on drums? does he do any solo´s? the only good thing ive seen on tre he is kind of fast and has sometimes some god rythms with toms as you can hear on jesus of suburbia.

travis is FAST, creative, cool etc...

is that enough for u? or do i night to argument more? its just my OPINION if u dont respect it its cause you are not educated.

[mediocrefunkybeat]

Cheers for the insult. I'm just saying, you shouldn't just say 'he rulez' back it up... I personally don't really listen to either drummer; I prefer Steve Gadd etc.

[Superlow]

theres no need for an argument or thats what i think.

does tre do something special on drums? does he do any solo´s? the only good thing ive seen on tre he is kind of fast and has sometimes some god rythms with toms as you can hear on jesus of suburbia.

travis is FAST, creative, cool etc...

is that enough for u? or do i night to argument more? its just my OPINION if u dont respect it its cause you are not educated.


I think people are a little obsessed with image. I don't care if the guy looks like Weird Al and can play drums reall welly. Being cool is not criteria for playing drums good. Also fast is over rated criteria for playing drums. What good is speed if you lack control.

[kazzman]

theres no need for an argument or thats what i think.
There's always a need for an argument.

does tre do something special on drums? does he do any solo´s? the only good thing ive seen on tre he is kind of fast and has sometimes some god rythms with toms as you can hear on jesus of suburbia.

So he doesn't solo? Whoopdie doo. A lot of drummers don't solo because they choose not to. Does that mean they aren't good? No it doesn't. Actually, I have more respect for them because they have the opportunity to stand out and have the limelight on them, but they choose not to because they're humble about their playing.

travis is FAST, creative, cool etc...

Wow! Travis is fast! So am I. Speed isn't everything.

Creative? Hahahahahahaha. There's nothing creative in his drumming at all. You want creative? Listen to Rush, Led Zeppelin, Nightwish and countless other bands that don't fall in to the category of pop/punk.

Since when did being "cool" have anything to do with drumming?

is that enough for u? or do i night to argument more? its just my OPINION if u dont respect it its cause you are not educated.

So because somebody doesn't respect your opinion then they aren't educated? I guess most of the world's population isn't educated then...

[mediocrefunkybeat]

I think people are a little obsessed with image. I don't care if the guy looks like Weird Al and can play drums reall welly. Being cool is not criteria for playing drums good. Also fast is over rated criteria for playing drums. What good is speed if you lack control.

I think Weird Al looks cool anyway. We wanted the 'Travis Rulez' crowd away from here.. ah well.. *sighs*

[kazzman]

I think Weird Al looks cool anyway. We wanted the 'Travis Rulez' crowd away from here.. ah well.. *sighs*

Oh well, can't get everything you want. It was bound to happen anyway...

[beat1212]

If you want to talk about tre cool then start a new thread. keep it organized. just a sugestion.
also we shouldnt judge a drummer by what they do in the band they are/were in because any good drummer knows what he should play and not play in the band he is in. just because travis barker and a lot of other drummers dont play things really hard is because they know that the music he is playing doesnt calls for it. in my opinioin (even though im NOT a blink 182 fan) travis's drumming keeps the music alot more alive and adds evergy to his band. the songs would all definitly not sound the same if he wasnt playing drums on them. And unliek most other drummers in his genre his drumming plays a mojor role in the rythm of the song and has his own unique style and sound.
Just so you know im not a harcore travis barker fan i just think his deserves credit for what he does.

[Alk3fan]

ErNeStIn_182... its ok to have your own opinions on things, but there is no need for bashing other drummers or other drummers opinions. like Bernhard said, do you not like someone from frogseye view, or birdseye view... And why does it matter?

And when you call someone else not educated, rather than making yourself look 'better' it makes you look immature and even less educated than the person you said it to.

So before you think about putting other people down... Click here and read. (http://drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=470)

[Stevis]

I think travis barker is good, but nothing spectacular. He seems to play well, but he isn't as good as other drummers out there. The thing is, I think that the people you were saying that think travis barker is the best drummer, I think those people are isolated in what they listen to. And If they listen to all those blink 182 styles of music than yeah...probobly travis barker would be the best drummer they know.

[Superlow]

I think what most people's point on the board is that you can't have a discussion about Brian Blade with a "Travis Rulez" poster because they haven't heard enough of what is out there to form any other opinion. I don't hold it against anyone, it reminds me of my younger days when I thought Dave Grohl was god and that people who mentioned Peart were living in the past.

[eddrummer05]

that is a hot stick,i like it....

[krazykenny5150]

i always played with the vic firth swizzles and thought they were cool for different grooves and stuff, never liked the unussual balance, ill have to try those to see how they fair.

[ryan_182]

Thank you! I love blink 182 and i think travis barker is a great drummer. i know hes famous and all but hes still good!

[ryan_182]

Thank you! I love blink 182 and i think travis barker is a great drummer. i know hes famous and all but hes still good! I respect your other guys' opions BUT barker is good and a good inspiration.

[HardRockDrummer]

TRAVIS RULZ!!!! LOL, Joking.

I remember my friend (also a drummer) once saying that travis was the second fastest drummer in the world (Phil Collins was the fastest), and i burst out laughing.

of course travis is good, but imo he's not as good as some of the rock drummers around today (e.g. Chad Smith, whom i already expressed my passion for, and Brad Wilk).
all his rhythms can be played on a drum machine! he's solos always sound like a drum machine playing a couple of fast beats and semiquavers.

Personally i think Tre isn't that good but then again i prefer him to travis because he's got flavour. but then again both of them are overrated. I'm not a big fan of pop-punk anyway.

[LordQuas]

Travis Barker is really overrated. He does a good job for his band, but nothing more than this.

[Bonzo]

I'm with Stu_Strib on this one. When I look at his video clips, I'm actually very disappointed. But we all have to understand something. Just because you've reached celebrity status doesn't necessarily mean you're one of the best at your profession. Many of today's celebrities can be classified as "entertainers" rather than musician's or actors etc. I don't have a whole lot of evidence to go on regarding Travis so I'm not going to bash his drumming ability. But drumming aside, he is clearly an entertainer, an attention-getter. If you walk into a room tattooed from head to toe, with a mohawk, believe me everybody is going to notice you. He didn't get his own TV show because of his drumming, he got it because he's an entertainer with a colorful personality. Again, I haven't heard enough of his drumming to pass judgement, but the parts of it that I have heard have left me scratching my head a bit as to why he's held in such high regard.

Another guy who gets so much undue publicity as a drummer is Tommy Lee. Unfortunately, you can rank his popularity in life based on this order:

1) Size of his p*nis
2) Who he's been married to (Heather Locklear, Pam Anderson)
3) Motley Crue and the popularity of the "Big Hair Bands" of the 80's
4) Drumming

Yet, because he's a drummer, so many people think he's an awesome musician.

[rendezvous_drummer]

Indeed he is extremely talented. I like his style of play how he likes to mix things up. Some of the things he plays is completely out of the ordinary and that is why i like him.

[Stu_Strib]

I don't give celebrity drummers any credit musically. At the same time, you don't have to be obscure to be good.

Just thinking, what celebrity entertainers can you think of that actually have high levels of artistic talent other than looking good and having nice body parts?

[CaptainCharisma2]

I think he is overrated,but good,hes just not amazing. But i guess that might be because i listen to Prog Rock not punk.

[force_of_nature]

I just recently picked up two blink-182 CD's used. I listened to Enema of the State first since I had heard it was very good and it is. Then I listened to Dude Ranch which to me is nothing special at all. Travis brought a whole new dimension to this band and I have to give him credit for that. I haven't seen the videos or listened to much else of Travis but he is definitely a talented drummer. He has a style that fits perfectly with the punk feel and raises the music to a higher level. If a drummer can have that much impact I would say he is at least very good, maybe great.

[Bucks]

Hey Guys!
I am also new at the forum but i already read this discussion and want to show you my point of view.
I think you can't just say travis barker is a good or bad drummer. he is an outstanding drummer compared to the majority and is definitly doing a great job at blink. the grooves are not very difficult but does that make them bad? I think that simple grooves and simple riffs are a part of punk music because that makes it possible for everybody to play it.
somewhere on this page it is said that " the drummer makes or breaks a band" and in travis barkers case he definitly makes the band and thats what its all about.
I also think that not the difficulty or the speed are important to make a good groove it is only important that your drumming fits into the song or the style of music you play.

see you around bucks

[darkcherryfade]

he is an outstanding drummer compared to the majority




NO HE ISN'T!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=Bucks]I also think that not the difficulty or the speed are important to make a good groove it is only important that your drumming fits into the song or the style of music you play.

[/QUOTE}

It's definitely not about how simple and complex the drumming is. But remember, just cause a shirt fits you doesn't mean it looks good. Sure, Barker's playing "fits" the music, but it doesn't really sound that good to me. At least, he does a good enough job not getting too in the way of the rest of the music.

[Scottylawton]

NO HE ISN'T!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=Bucks]I also think that not the difficulty or the speed are important to make a good groove it is only important that your drumming fits into the song or the style of music you play.

[/QUOTE}

It's definitely not about how simple and complex the drumming is. But remember, just cause a shirt fits you doesn't mean it looks good. Sure, Barker's playing "fits" the music, but it doesn't really sound that good to me. At least, he does a good enough job not getting too in the way of the rest of the music.

Dark cherry fade you're a legend, i cant agree more another one of those overrated drummers. I saw his solo and to be honest i started to laugh cause he's on this website with all these top kick arse drummers with awesome solos and that all he has to show for himself, plus his stuff doesn't impress me at all and how he acts on his show....maybe i should stop there i would want to make any teeny boppers cry cause i'm drilling their favourite drummer! Whoops did i just say that? I think i did, oohh and i can't take it back now i've already typed it.

[Scottylawton]

Actually everybody that agrees with me is a legend, i just saw this comment first and you know. And Tre cool sucks too, His technique is disgraceful! They say that when you are playing youre drums you look the same as when you're having sex, i feel sorry for the person he's shagging hehe, oh come on work with me people.

[cactusman]

im sure he's a great drummer with his own innovative sound. but one thing i do not like to see is today's young drummers believing that barker is the highest plateau of drumming. Younger drummers will only benefit themselves and learn to dig down deeper to the tony williams and such.

[finnhiggins]

Just thinking, what celebrity entertainers can you think of that actually have high levels of artistic talent other than looking good and having nice body parts?

I think Michael Jackson is pretty good. Or rather, he used to be before he was murdered by the shape-shifting alien who took his place in the late 1980s :) And the less said about his body parts the better, I've heard enough of that for a lifetime.

Also, I think Kelis is good too. Some of her album tracks are pretty dodgy, but she's a good live performer and she has the decency to hire a great live band and actually give them space to move. There's not many people who'd turn a live version of their breakthrough hit into a 10-minute instrumental jam intended to show off the skills of their individual band members.

[fabolicious11]

i think travis is pretty good. He is not the best, but you have to give him credit for being as good as he is. dont be jealous or mad at him. if a drummer is good and doesnt go around acting like the messiah of drumming then he is a cool dude in my book

[spacebeat3117]

If you still believe that Travis isnt a good drummer watch this www.ocdrum.com.

[Stu_Strib]

If you still believe that Travis isnt a good drummer watch this www.ocdrum.com.

Wow, I'm embarrassed for OCdrum.

What a horrible excursion in drumming. This video demonstrates everything that is wrong with modern pop drumming and stardom-over-skill.

The best part is when he goes back under the stage and its done.

Seriously, how can any 'drummer' think that is good? I can understand the thousands of 14 year old girls in the crowd yelling their brains out. He has nice tatoos and a cool mohawk, and really cool lights.

But what does that have to do with drumming?

Horrible horrible horrible. A bunch of running 16th notes and flashing lights...big friggin' deal.

Even the drum sound is horrible. Did he even bother tuning the kick and toms? Also, there are so many fundamentally things wrong with his hi-hat setup, and his tom setups, its laughable. His strokes are even disgraceful, especially from a supposed rudimental genius.

Please do us a favor, and go on drummerworld.com and check out Bonham, Porcaro, Weckl, Smith, Drumbassadors, Gadd, Coliauta, Copeland, Chambers, Beauford, Townsley, Bissonette, Moore, Jarzombek, Lang, Minneman, Igoe, Irskine, Famularo, Mayer, Phillips, Riel, Ward, Williams, etc. etc.

Then come back and tell us how great that video is.

[JW89]

If you still believe that Travis isnt a good drummer watch this www.ocdrum.com.

dude, travis is definetly better than that solo, u gotta find some better stuff, that solo is easy as hell compared to wat ive seen him do live, that solo was actually really simple, ive only been playin for about 2 years and i can play that, its good to listen to when ur a beginner, but its pretty easy when ur more experienced...hes definetly an extreemly talented guy, but if u wanna prove a point about him being a really great drummer, find some better footage, cause that was childs play, im not saying im amazing, but that solo just wasnt that hard

[Stu_Strib]

dude, travis is definetly better than that solo, u gotta find some better stuff, that solo is easy as hell compared to wat ive seen him do live, that solo was actually really simple, ive only been playin for about 2 years and i can play that, its good to listen to when ur a beginner, but its pretty easy when ur more experienced...hes definetly an extreemly talented guy, but if u wanna prove a point about him being a really great drummer, find some better footage, cause that was childs play, im not saying im amazing, but that solo just wasnt that hard

That's the problem with Barker. Everytime I ask for somethng better, nobody can produce anything. I've now listened to every Blink 182 song and watched about 5 videos. I like ONE thing he's done in all that material (it had a cool cowbell part is all I remember).

He's funny on his show though, especially the one where his girl and the wedding planner were going on and on, and he was totally zoning and not caring one bit...

[JW89]

i have respect for the guy, in my opinion, its all about just feeling it, u should do whatever you want/need to get the right feel for something, and if it makes you feel good about your drumming, then thats good, just as long as his head doesnt get insanely huge like lars ulrich, and a lot of other drummers. travis hasnt, hes a pretty modest guy, ive never once heard him run his mouth about his drumming, and i think thats cool. Travis is just a drummer like tre cool, or ringo. When your starting out on a set, its good to listen to that type of stuff, but after a while you need to move on to better, more technical people.

[patcityrockers]

I agree with most of what people say about Travis being popular. I guess he deserves a place in drummerworld due to popularity and that's about it. He isn't playing anything that hasn't been played before. There are some drummers in that genre who don't get enough recognition. Brooks Wackerman for Bad Religion being one of them. Travis is a lucky a guy, he was in the right band at the right time. Blink182 are a bunch of good looking guys who play music that appeals to a demographic that likes to buy lot's of merchandise and music. He has his show on a channel that like to sell lot's of crap to a certain demographic that is known for buying lots of crap due to watching that certain channel. There is no mystery there. I think as far as his solo's are concerned they lack texture and feel. There is no build or culmination into anything. He shows off how fast he can play and badly segways into an off tempo break-beat. Not impressed.
HELL YES!! I cant believe you said that! I was just about to post about Bad Religions drummer. I think Travis is good but I dont think its totally fair to call him a punk drummer cuz blink 182 is not really a straight up punk band. As far as punk rock Bad Religion is worlds apart from blink. The drummer from Bad Religion has mad chops and interesting rythmical ideas without being a showoff like a lot of the math rock/prog rock drummers.

[Bernhard]

Fact is also, that Travis Barker is by far the most clicked drummer at Drummerworld for more than three years now.

More than the double as Steve Gadd, Joey Jordison or Neil Peart....

Bernhard

[Wegadrummer]

Fact is also, that Travis Barker is by far the most clicked drummer at Drummerworld for more than three years now.

More than the double as Steve Gadd, Joey Jordison or Neil Peart....

Bernhard

WOW! it is probally because people know about travis, both for his tvshow and drumming..
i think it was a cool solo, not so tech.. but fast and cool..

[Stu_Strib]

WOW! it is probally because people know about travis, both for his tvshow and drumming..
i think it was a cool solo, not so tech.. but fast and cool..

In addition to people like me clicking it to figure out what all the hub-hub is about him.

[Stu_Strib]

The height of the hi-hats is riduculous. You can get so many sounds out of a hi hat if you can hit the edge, shoulder, bell, top with the tip of the stick, all would require a much lower position. But if he were to lower his hat, he wouldn't be able to wail on the snare drum with the crossover style, he'd have to learn to play open.

[Superlow]

That solo of Travis that Bernhard put up recently, is wimp. The guy should spend some of his millions and take lessons on how to solo. It was rediculously bad. Also standing up to have to hit your rack tom and cymbals is not cool.

[Jaymasta]

theres no need for an argument or thats what i think.

does tre do something special on drums? does he do any solo´s? the only good thing ive seen on tre he is kind of fast and has sometimes some god rythms with toms as you can hear on jesus of suburbia.

travis is FAST, creative, cool etc...

is that enough for u? or do i night to argument more? its just my OPINION if u dont respect it its cause you are not educated. Ok I think travis is kind of a poser transplants you call that PUNK I call it crap ya maybe Tim armstrong is in it but whatever I've heard Tre Cool do a drum solo and I'll tell you when hes not playing punky pop songs he is Amazing Tre cool is also FAST, creative, cool etc... his old stuff on green day is pretty easy but he has some moments when it comes to the toms he is so fast in almost every song on the dookie record hes going crazy with the cymbals and the toms for such a small kit back on the old records thats pretty good Tre Cool deosn't want to impress anybody he just wants to play drums for his band some of you may have not heard Tre play out of green day but if you do you would be surprised since he owns more then a dozen drum kits Travis is good and I've heard travis do his best on drums not very impressive but have you heard Tre do his best on drums untill you do we can start argueing on whos better on drums

[minnietguinea]

Travis Barker RULZ!!!
No, really...
He gets the job done, fits in well with Blink 182 (If you think the band is annoying, his drumming matches perfectly, and if you think the band is great, his drumming matches your taste). He is an entertainer, and he succeeds at entertaining. He doesn't have to be an amazing drummer to earn what he has. I admire him for his business smarts. He's one of the most popular non-musician's drummers, has his own show, and his own line of clothing. He must have some amount of smarts to keep it all up. As a musician, not so good. However, as an entertainer, he's a success.

[Jaymasta]

Actually I put my hi-hat the same height a little lower but I like my hi-hat to be high I thought it was a good solo there were some hard parts but other parts were really basic I hate his drum sticks though they suck the colour wears off so easily and I wasn't very impressed by the solo I thought he was better than that but hes still a very good drummer excellent drummer but I don't care my opion Tre Cool can do a hell of a lot better drum solo than that I've heard Tre do a solo before alot better than that video trust me when Tre does a solo he does a certain beat then goes all out on the toms and the cymbals I can't explain it very well heh

[Speedy]

I honestly used to like Blink 182...but some of my friends have just got into them so much. It just makes me sick. Travis Barker is a good drummer..but maybe just a little over-rated....like saying he is the best drummer ever or what not. Not as much as Jordison though IMO. You gotta look at more drummers than just one type of genre.

[illy]

personally, i thought that when he first joined blink, his take on "punk" drumming (you can't really call blink punk, but what people NOW refer to as punk) was different. i really believe the vibe he created influenced a lot of the newer drummers for emo/punk/pop-punk/screamo genre. his fills and beats were pretty damn fresh, it was very tight, fast drumming, his drums sounded awesome live and recorded and he had 'the look' to become a 'cool drummer'.

think it all just added up and he was at the beginning of this whole, new music scene. that's why i think he's been held so high in many people's eyes.

maybe i'm wrong, but that's the way i see it. i don't really LOVE the blink/transplants music, but i listen to it now and then because i think the drums just sound really nice on the albums.

[stagecustom]

Honestly , I also wasnt all that impressed with the solo, but try doing that in front of 20,000 people. Also if you were in a pop punk band like Blink , and knew that most of your fans were not as musically intelligent as other audiences of other types of genres, wouldnt you just try to impress the crowd by going real fast, and crazy. He is just trying to please the crowd, just going with the flow, you know what I mean. But yes i do agree on the thing about his cymbals being to high up, that must be uncomfortable. Oh well just think about playing in front of 20,000 people, untill you have and pulled a better job then Travis ... then you can talk.

[NUTHA JASON]

i really don't get why folks dislike him so much. something about a tv show? i haven't seen anything. he is quite fast and is more of an entertainer than a technical drummer but there seems to be a lot of bashing here. he's good.

j

[Elemental Nausea]

Honestly , I also wasnt all that impressed with the solo, but try doing that in front of 20,000 people. Also if you were in a pop punk band like Blink , and knew that most of your fans were not as musically intelligent as other audiences of other types of genres, wouldnt you just try to impress the crowd by going real fast, and crazy. He is just trying to please the crowd, just going with the flow, you know what I mean. But yes i do agree on the thing about his cymbals being to high up, that must be uncomfortable. Oh well just think about playing in front of 20,000 people, untill you have and pulled a better job then Travis ... then you can talk.

I think so too in a way, he had to please the crowd which was musically not that intelligent I guess, cause I also thought the solo was very simple , at least the grooves, some other stuff was better, but all in all ,not a very good and creative solo, he also did to many long breaks I think.

[Stu_Strib]

i really don't get why folks dislike him so much. something about a tv show? i haven't seen anything. he is quite fast and is more of an entertainer than a technical drummer but there seems to be a lot of bashing here. he's good.

j


Nutha, I can't speak for everyone, but the dislike comes from him being famous, not for his skills. I would like to disagree with a previous post and say that a lot of us CAN play that, but we choose not to, because it wasn't very good. I don't think fast automatically equals good, and that wasn't even really fast.

So he's good at crowd pleasing (mohawk, cool drums, cool tatoos) but he evidently isn't good at impressing other drummers.

I personally think his show is great and I think he's a pretty cool dude. I also like Blink-182, just not for the drumming. It has its place, but it doesn't have a place along the likes of Steve Gadd, Dennis Chamber et. al.

[2112theaterdreamingfreak]

Travis is todays Tommy Lee, hes in the spot light, on TV all the time, but doesn't have that legendary drummer sound. Yes Tommy Lee and Travis have talent, but no uinique style, they just play fast.

[illy]

http://ocdrum.com/barker/

was just checking out OCDP's website and they had a travis barker solo video. for anyone who is interested.

personally, i thought most of it was pretty simple, but he had some pretty cool fills now and then. he rocks out hardcore when he drums. he better be careful or his head will go through his tom.

[bonzo_is_the_greatest]

What a waste of a solo. Travis' new solo fue; or whatever sucks so much. I would have to be the worst solo i have ever seen, he is just playin a few simple rock beats and then there is like thousands of 14 year old girls screamin in the background. How did somebody with such little talent get such a good reputation? Can somebody please tell me!!!!!

[illy]

What a waste of a solo. Travis' new solo fue; or whatever sucks so much. I would have to be the worst solo i have ever seen, he is just playin a few simple rock beats and then there is like thousands of 14 year old girls screamin in the background. How did somebody with such little talent get such a good reputation? Can somebody please tell me!!!!!

dude, just because he played a simple solo doesn't mean he has "LITTLE TALENT" as you put it. i've seen and heard him play some really good stuff live. just because he wanted to rock out to some simple beats and have a good time doesn't mean he can't do any better.

i'm not one of those that thinks he is the greatest drummer or that he is even up to par with some of my favorite drummers, but i give credit when it is due. he is a good drummer. so you should calm down and rethink things before you start calling people "talentless".

[Dill X]

What a waste of a solo. Travis' new solo fue; or whatever sucks so much. I would have to be the worst solo i have ever seen, he is just playin a few simple rock beats and then there is like thousands of 14 year old girls screamin in the background. How did somebody with such little talent get such a good reputation? Can somebody please tell me!!!!!

Ha ha. I'd like to see you play like that in front of all of those people.
Those diss him man. He's a great drummer. He never was the best and never will be, and yes he is overrated, but don't hate him because his "popular" or "famous." You make it seem like it's his fault.

[horsefly1]

I know I might catch flak for this but, Travis Barker is now where even close to being in the top 100 rock drummers of all time.

The solo was very basic and boring.
umm yea actually i've already looked that up he #80 on the top 100 list. neil peart is number 1. but he is ranked. i do like travis a lot but i do not think he is the best. love him or hate him you have to give him credit, he has made blink 182 a lot better, he's been taking lessons since he was 4 and some of those lessons were jazz lessons. his marching drum abilities are really good as well, i have seen a clip of that. i have seen a lot of solo's of him, some are good, some are ok, some are crap. but i can't stand to read of how people say that he stinks, hes not a top 100 drummer, and all that crap. IMO and i could care less of what others think, it's people like him that inspire young people to start drumming. i think he is good but not nearly the best, he is fast, but not the fastest. i like the guy but im not one of those people who says he is God and all that stuff.

[horsefly1]

Ha ha. I'd like to see you play like that in front of all of those people.
Those diss him man. He's a great drummer. He never was the best and never will be, and yes he is overrated, but don't hate him because his "popular" or "famous." You make it seem like it's his fault.

i agree man, and i heard some guy on this thread say something like he needs to take solo lessons and stuff with all his money or whatever, the guy learned 20 songs in 2 hours when he first came to blink. all these people who flame travis, could you all learn 20 songs in 2 hours and then play it with no screw ups before a show?

[Superlow]

Not to come off as pompous. But having played punk music in a somewhat reminicient setting to the style of Blink 182 and that genre for many years. I don't feel it would be that hard to learn to play 20 songs in 2 hours that sound almost exactly the same and most have the same format of verse, chorus, verse, chorus, half time breakdown and chorus. Just a thought.

[Johnny_Stacks]

if you ask me i think its just a marketing scam. they aren too good at all adn u ahve a bad balacne point for the stick. plus travis barker doestn even use them. zildjian thought that since his normal sticsk are popular these will be too. they are nto great. dont buy them.

Right on man i bought a pair with out checking them out at the store got home and used them and thought they were junk!!! DO NOT BUY HORRIBLE STICKS!!!

Peace- John

[BrKnGBeN]

i just got a pair of his regular sticks and i liek them a lot... whats do you guys think about em?

[davodi74]

Well, don't the mallets get in the way of the heel of your palm, or weigh down the back of the stick?

[illbefamous]

Although learning 20 songs in two hours may be kinda simple, it might be more difficult for him, knowing that every song would have a different beat for the verses/choruses, i mean, he's got a sound that's different from just about any other drummer out there, he doesnt JUST play punk, he was in metal bands before, regae, acoustic, all kinds of stuff. I mean just listen to like the transplants (im not saying the group is great or anything belive me) but i mean, the variation in the beats he plays for those songs, and for blink, or boxcar racer, boxcar racer, he has some of the phatest beats and fills on those tracks.

Travis Barker page on DrummerWorld (http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Travis_Barker.html)

[Bernhard]

Yes phantastic - great

Bernhard

[illbefamous]

mr. bernhard, what's your output on travis?

[Jaymasta]

What's up with Transplants they have this hip hop sound now I mean Rob is a cool guy I like his rapping but then they have this whole rapping crue and there bobbin' there heads and stuff. And there's many drummers like Travis out there. There's nothing really unique about Travis's playing.....

[Bernhard]

mr. bernhard, what's your output on travis?

Well, coming in and in the first post starting a Travis thread seems a bit pathetic.... didn't you make a SEARCH first?
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I don't get it: 20 songs in two hours?? why this, doesn't sound serious. And for the phat Sound: has nothing to do with his playing - ask the ingenieers....

Just saw for the first time "Meet the Barkers" yesterday - and I was really dissapointed. Travis was so stoned, he even didn't recognise his own son.

Bernhard

[Drummin_Dan]

puts Travis and Tommy in the same barrel pretty quick. But, I wouldn't call alot of famous drummers Saints by any means.

[NUTHA JASON]

i locked the last travis thread. and i'll lock this one too if it gets out of hand. all that needs to be said against the tatooed one was said on the last thread. so search and read there before you post here. if it comes to bashing again this thread will be stopped. perhaps only people who appreciate something about the man should post here. all the bashers have had more than their fair say in the old thread.

as for me, my band covers 'all the small things' and it gets one of the best resopnses from the audience. its not hard to play and is actually quite fun. nuff said.

i'll watch this thread with interest.
j

[CartersChops]

i think drumming and lifestyle should be separated. as sad as it is, music and drugs seem to go hand in hand in many situations today. i myself have been an on and off travis fan. needless to say i know for a fact that he has inspired many of the younger generation drummers to pick up a pair of sticks. as for his talent, it certainly is there. after getting really into the drumming scene i realized he wasnt all as great as i had once thought when i was younger.i had come to realize his drumming was nothing special or creative with blink 182 or boxcar racer (despite a few good licks here and there). then i recently saw him play live with the transplants and i was blown away by the creativity. it was a whole new style of playing i had never seen before and it instantaniously made me a travis fan again. Sure, hes hyped up a bit much by media and such, and regardless of the drugs, the man deserves some credit.

[Zildjian232]

for a couple years i studied travis a lot. i watched a lot of videos, all the drumsolos, i know how to play every blink song including the new album that just came out. i watched videos of him in the recording studio. I use to think he was best thing ever, but i expanded my thinking and realized that he wasnt as good as i thought,i started listening to tool and led zeppelin so i then i realized that he was nothing compared to those guys. but travis seems to be able to pull of something new every album. i think he did a really good job on the boxcar racer album. he was always ahead of the other drummers in the other pop punk band i think travis is overrated but underated at the same time. millions of people say that he is the best thing ever. and then theres the crowd that says o he overated hes not that good. but i think his playing is restricted by the people he plays with. like these punk musicians(not to bag on them or anything) hes restricted to simple time signatures and other things like that. im sure if he played with someone like from a more technical band like from tool for example. im not saying hes going to be the most amazing but you have give him some more credit

[Tony Rockyhorror]

I love the fact that if a guy is working for his next meal drumming and plays like Travis he'd be considered by more people as great, then he gets successful and everyone is like "he's so overrated". Travis is a great drummer period. Is he one of the best ever? Probably not. Now one of the best out now? That could be argued. And think about it how many drummers are known by the general public for THERE DRUMMING. You have Tommy Lee who's known more for his sex tapes and maybe Tre Cool and that's more that he's in such a reconisable band. But even before Travis got his reality show he was reconized as a great drummer. Think about the bands he's been in. Blink 182, Boxcar Racer, The Aquabats. He carried every lats one of them. The only time I've ever been disappointed with him is in the Transplants and I still give him respect in that. As far as being a stoner goes OH NO PEOPLE IN ROCK AND ROLL ARE BAD. You wanna say that than you might as well go " Hey remember that drunk Keith Moon" or " remember that drug addict John Bohnam" Hell Buddy Rich was known for being a jerk to members of his band. But the men and woman on this site aren't on here for being good people. There here for there drumming. And Travis can drum.

[Jaymasta]

for a couple years i studied travis a lot. i watched a lot of videos, all the drumsolos, i know how to play every blink song including the new album that just came out. i watched videos of him in the recording studio. I use to think he was best thing ever, but i expanded my thinking and realized that he wasnt as good as i thought,i started listening to tool and led zeppelin so i then i realized that he was nothing compared to those guys. but travis seems to be able to pull of something new every album. i think he did a really good job on the boxcar racer album. he was always ahead of the other drummers in the other pop punk band i think travis is overrated but underated at the same time. millions of people say that he is the best thing ever. and then theres the crowd that says o he overated hes not that good. but i think his playing is restricted by the people he plays with. like these punk musicians(not to bag on them or anything) hes restricted to simple time signatures and other things like that. im sure if he played with someone like from a more technical band like from tool for example. im not saying hes going to be the most amazing but you have give him some more credit
Why are you always talking about how good Danny and John are I mean sure there great drummers but you can't always compare Different styles of drumming Travis is way different then Danny carey like Blink-182 or Transplants is different from tool. Everytime you post you talk about how good these drummers are. All drummers are different they play what there good at now Travis deosn't only play pop stuff but he plays jazz but I would say he fits in the pop/punk catagory and that's what he plays and I don't think he would really change from that but the Drumming for Boxcar Racer really impressed me and had some Jazz drumming on some of the tracks.

[jangus]

I'm not a fan of Barker or any of his bands or his genre in general, but I think he is pretty good. You ever watch that video with him playing the marching snare? Hes got some skills. He knows what hes doing.

[theduke86]

You know, he doesn't get a lot of credit among drummers. He does among the general populace for sure, but I don't think people recognise what he is because of other factors like jealousy for example. I think he's a good drummer. I don't like Blink 182, or Boxcar Racer, and he's not my favorite drummer. Giving credit where credit is due, the guy's got some chops together and he feels very good in that context. I wonder how he plays jazz and latin stuff.
In conclusion... the guy's a good drummer!! People are too rough.

[aahznightsky]

You know, he doesn't get a lot of credit among drummers. He does among the general populace for sure, but I don't think people recognise what he is because of other factors like jealousy for example. I think he's a good drummer. I don't like Blink 182, or Boxcar Racer, and he's not my favorite drummer. Giving credit where credit is due, the guy's got some chops together and he feels very good in that context. I wonder how he plays jazz and latin stuff.
In conclusion... the guy's a good drummer!! People are too rough.

Totally with theduke. He does have some good chops together and he can play better than alot of people. And of course the energy and style he has is perfect for the music he plays, so thats another reason he gets the gigs. In no way is he my favorite drummer and the music is in no way my favorite either, but he still is a good drummer (better than most in the genre that I've heard, so that's a plus). I'm also wondering how he'd sound in jazz or latin contexts, because I have heard that he enjoys playing that stuff as well...

[Zildjian232]

i know that travis doesnt just play punk, but thats waht he plays. i saw a short video of travis doing a pretty damn cool latin beat. but jazz and latin isnt really what he plays. he can but hes not in some big band playing jazz. i can hear the latin and jazz infulences but 90% is him being a rock drummer

[CarterB_Junkie]

These Travis Barker/(insert a popular drummer name or your choice ) "he's overrated but not as much as you think" debates will never end ...

The guy is an excellent drummer, he is quite creative and can groove very well in his genre !

I am tired of people telling " well bro he ain't Colaiuta or Donati", the talents of a drummer cannot only be measured by technical chops people.
Phill Rudd can make a stadium dancing like no other and his technique is not spectacular.
But he plays the best rock/blues/boogie grooves on the planet !
There are other things : feel, creativity, pocket, groove, showmanship, sound (listen to the latest Blink, Travis sounds excellent on this), charisma, originality, taste etc etc

That is All !

[ewanlaing]

for a little while recently i was obssesed with travis' drumming, and i still hold him in high regard. and yes, i have heard virgil donati, steve gadd, thomas lang, jojo meyer (spelling) and the like, and they can all do certain things better than him, but travis can play damn fast, and has some pretty neat co-ordination too. but beyond that, he comes up with some very inventive drum patterns. although many blink songs are just the normal rock beats, listen to "adam's song". definately playable by most drummers, but how did he come up with it?

[abubacar]

I think all you "Travis Barker/Tre cool/otherpopulardrummers is so over rated" people should just cut these guys some slack. They are doing what they love to do; drum. They are doing damn well too. Blink 182 was the band that influcenced me to start playing music. After i got Enema of the State, I really wanted a guitar. I got one and have been playing it for like 5 years. Just recently i wanted drums. I've been drumming for a year now. These guys are inpiration for alot of people. Plus Travis seriously practices all day long. He just drums and drums. Just let him do what he loves.

[richard_paradox]

Travis = Fast, invetive with some patterns but after this boring and the same

[Sticksman]

I know I might be contradicting myself from the last Barker thread, but let me go on record as saying, after seriously scrutinizing his videos and this thread, that Travis is a good drummer. Yes, he isn't the technical master some think he should be, but the important thing to remember is that if Blink 182 didn't have him, they'd be nothing. Not sure if this is an urban myth or not, but my drum teacher, in a debate about Travis, said that during Blink's first recording session, the producer booted the other drummer out and stuck Travis in. He liked his punky grooves so much in fact that he saw them through to stardom.

If that's true, then that says a lot, and even if its an urban myth, Travis speaks for himself. He plays in the pocket for his band, and does what he likes best: playing drums the way he likes them. You don't have to be Bobby Jarzombek to be respected behind the kit, but you do have to make people move to your beat. Travis does this. No, he's not the best, nowhere close in my humble opinion, but he is good. And we should respect for not only that, but for his drumming stardom and the thousands of teens who pick up the sticks because of him (hmmm, why does the name "Ringo" come to mind?).

[drummaman1]

my $0.02...

Blink 182 would be just another punk band, were it not for Travis. He brought the energy, the fire, to the group. He has chops, and he plays in Blink 182, among other projects. He's a drummer that gets paid to do what he loves to do.

There is a certain amount of luck when you become famous, if you ever get the chance to do so. Travis is a lucky man, and I think he'd be the first to tell you so. I could be wrong, but I detect a hint of Jealousy in some of these posts...? Why him and not me? What's his deal?
If you can control LUCK, then give me your number so I can take lessons from you! :-)

[CHASEdrummer.]

This post cracks me up. Here we are, drummers, all of us, known far and wide by musicians as the brand of instrumentalists MOST likely to help one another out or teach each other, raise each other up and endorse each other and each other's abilities are RAILING on a guy who has just had the good fortune to be as successful as he has.

Yes, I will be the first to admit that Travis Barker is crazy and damn near out of his mind. Being that high and that much of a "hey, check me out with my sweet cash and reality show" type guy is not appealing to me at all. What IS appealing is his ideas, his abilities and talent (all of which are quite obvious).

On the one hand, Travis grooves his butt off and this, coupled with his obvious enjoyment and love of the drums has inspired people the world over to start playing the drums. What's wrong with that? In my thinking, that's the mark of a great drummer. No, he doesn't do amazing four-way independance like Marco Minnemann or Thomas Lang. He doesn't have a sweet leftfoot cowbell like El Negro. The difference between all of these players I've mentioned, great and astounding as they all are, is that Travis plays things the everyday public can understand (with the exception of some of his ridiculous roll/fills that are WAY too punk). People like to bob their head to the music and it seems to me that Travis understands that putting a fat groove underneath a track makes it FAR more memorable than a drummer who can play 6/8 on his left side and 12/4 on his right.

Hello world. I dig the grooves that Travis lays down. "The Fallen Interlude" on Blink's last disc was amazing. The backbeat turnaround on Boxcar Racer's "Elevator" MADE that song what it is which is a great song. So he's nuts and probably a bad personal role model, but what are you watching the reality show for? I'd rather be playing.

cheers.

[ewanlaing]

i have to agree about the fuel solo. i was not impressed. i think most people here could have played that. on my blink dvd there is a higher quality version of the other solo on this site and it's much better. at one point, you can't even tell what he's doing it's so fast. was he controlling the lights with a pedal for that fuel solo? cos he never moves his high hat pedal and theres a little mechanism next to him. that would explain a lot. anyone know?

[illbefamous]

.....although many blink songs are just the normal rock beats, listen to "adam's song". definately playable by most drummers, but how did he come up with it?


exactly man, that stuff he plays is so creative, i mean is there really another drummer out there who plays stuff just like his? That's what makes travis stand out, there are so many drummers who play solid and hardly any fills (not saying thats a bad thing) that all play the same stuff and all sound the same. This is why travis stands out.

[dunchykong]

i hate to admit it, but im a blink 182 fan........ we all have our weaknesses. anywho, i was wondering what kind of e drum thing he uses. it plays like a subwoofer kind of sound. i was also wondering what something like that would cost, for the pad and a drum machine, for cheap.

[skippy]

its a rolands 808. im a fan too so dont feel bad.

[CHASEdrummer.]

That's an 808 sound triggered by a regular pad. I saw him this summer at Warped Tour (blah! except Relient K, Bedouin Soundclash, MxPx and Underoath) and that sound was CRAZY! They had it so loud I think it might've permantently altered my heartbeat.
cheers.

[Jaymasta]

I like watching his solo's really cool stuff. Travis just goes really fast and that seems to impress the crowd and the solo's that Travis does really puts on a good show!!

[ewanlaing]

nicely put. as long as the crowd is happy, then thats fine. sometimes if an amazing dummer shows a crowd rudiments it can be dull. he shows off, thats why its fun.

[Drummer95]

I am very surprised to see people bashing Travis. I got to see him play live with the Transplants at Warped and it was amazing. He plays open handed on a lot of stuff, which i think is sick. He also has a lot of awesome beats with lots of bass drum. He may not be the most flashy drummer and his beats arent to difficult, but you have to appreciate what he's doing. I think on the newest Blink album he has really branched out using electronic drums, more cowbell and wood blocks, etc. I do like Blink and Boxcar. I would NEVER call Travis the best drummer in the world, however he is one of my favorites.

[punky_funk]

I am very surprised to see people bashing Travis. I got to see him play live with the Transplants at Warped and it was amazing. He plays open handed on a lot of stuff, which i think is sick. He also has a lot of awesome beats with lots of bass drum. He may not be the most flashy drummer and his beats arent to difficult, but you have to appreciate what he's doing. I think on the newest Blink album he has really branched out using electronic drums, more cowbell and wood blocks, etc. I do like Blink and Boxcar. I would NEVER call Travis the best drummer in the world, however he is one of my favorites.

I'm with Drummer95... i too was amazed by him and I still am to an extent.. He is amazing and his skills on a snare are amazing... but sometimes his style can get repetitive i wish i could hear him in a different genre!

[JustDrum]

I have respect for Travis as well. I think that he truly changed the genre with his innovative and very original drumming. It's not the kind of stuff I listen to often, however I must give him credit for what he has done. At the same time, I agree with those who are saying he doesn't do it for them when compared to Gadd, Weckl, and Colaiuta. But then again, how many musicians can you compare to Gadd, Weckl, and Colaiuta. Plus, they didn't have the influence that he did on the punk scene. He started something new! Props to him!

[ewanlaing]

by the way, has anyone seen his new signature sticks on sale yet. they were going to be same as last ones, but with felt tips at the butt end, so a double purpose stick if you will. they looked pretty cool.

[PiperDrums722]

i would like to say first off THERE IS NO NEED TO COMPARE TRAVIS BARKER TO PEOPLE LIKE STEVE GADD! They dont play the same thing. I would also like to say that Travis can play the drums very good. I mean most drummers now adays in the pop typer genres suck. Travis doesnt hes the best in his genre and he can play the kit. Travis is a musicion and hes one of the few real good musicians in his genre and he is 10 times better than tre cool if you actually listen to them both you can realize that!

**Travis is a good drummer especially for a person that plays the now adays music

[Jaymasta]

i would like to say first off THERE IS NO NEED TO COMPARE TRAVIS BARKER TO PEOPLE LIKE STEVE GADD! They dont play the same thing. I would also like to say that Travis can play the drums very good. I mean most drummers now adays in the pop typer genres suck. Travis doesnt hes the best in his genre and he can play the kit. Travis is a musicion and hes one of the few real good musicians in his genre and he is 10 times better than tre cool if you actually listen to them both you can realize that!

**Travis is a good drummer especially for a person that plays the now adays music
Travis is good but Tre Cool only plays what fits the music Travis barker does the same but does cool fills Tre also does that I just think Tre has a more punky style to his drumming and I seriously Think Tre Cool is better by far. Tre Cool also has done better in his career as a musician I mean what ever happened to blink-182, and the Transplants just suck..... Boxcar car racer was good but haven't heard from them in a while and Green Day are still going at it!

[SpeedFreek291]

Of course Travis is going to seem like a so-so drummer when you put him up against people like Steve Gadd and Dennis Chambers. I know he is not the greatest, but he is really good. The point that I am trying to make is that just because there is someone out there better than him doesn't mean he sucks. It just means that there is someone better, thats all. He has an extreme love for the instrument and is obviously dedicated to getting better. You can't put someone down for that.

[Latin Groover]

Of course Travis is going to seem like a so-so drummer when you put him up against people like Steve Gadd and Dennis Chambers. I know he is not the greatest, but he is really good. The point that I am trying to make is that just because there is someone out there better than him doesn't mean he sucks. It just means that there is someone better, thats all. He has an extreme love for the instrument and is obviously dedicated to getting better. You can't put someone down for that.

I agree. theres always going to b sum1 better, at sumthin than u r. But he is a good drummer tho and as said b4 he luvs his instrument and he practises and stuff so u cant put him down for that. Just cause hes succesful shouldnt give other drummers the right to put him down, he luvs wat he does, and that should b enough. He's been out there for a while now and thats great so u should praise him for a good job, but Blinks still goin great for him and just cause transplants and Boxcar racer didnt work out as good as blink doesnt mean u should bag him and say "hey look at boxcar and transplants now where r they now, havent herd them 4 a while" i mean u have heard about blink 182. and u still do. Just cause his other 2 bands rnt as big, i mean really how many hugly succesful bands do u want the guy to b in b4 ull say that hes a good drummer! Name drummers hoo hav been as big and known as him and have made 3 equally, hugly succesful bands! Im not sayin there rnt, i just cant think of any at the moment but tell who there is, make sum suggestions cause there probably will b sum.

Now i said all this and i dont even really listen to blink 182. Like if a blink 182 song comes on the radio, ill listen to it and like it. But i dont buy their albums and stuff. But i said all this because i can see that he luvs wat hes doin, he enjoys it. Plus hes a good drummer i dont think u can deny that, like he has skills. So dont put him down just cause u can. Hes a good drummer, my opinion not great or amazing but real good.

Nuff said.

[Will-Myster]

I think Travis Barker has lots of skill. Just not neccasarily a style. Hes amazing at solo's and songs, but when it all comes down to it Blink's songs arn't totally complicated. I give Trav some credit but I think he needs more of a "Style" If you will.

Will

[Zildjian232]

i know he isnt the most technical, creative, fastest or anything like that, but i do have to say that he does have a differnt sound from most of the other drummers circulating on mtv and some radio stuff. they all sound the damn same. He does have pretty fast hands if you listen to his solos. and he does good bass drum doubles and not to mention his marching band chops. i dont knw if anyone has seen it but he can do one handed rolls. i saw him do it on the craig kilborn show when he preformed with boxcar. and i saw him do it on an australian show a butt load of times during "i miss you". he does seem to be able to adapt well to different styes. i think he did a really good job on box car racer it really showed the other side of his drumming. he pulled some cool beats, fills and outros and interludes. and i think if he played with better musians then those 4/4 punk rockers( no offense to any punkers) that he could really dish out some cool things. Cause when you play with better musians then you can play better. in my opinion.

[burnthehero]

The most pathetic part of this thread is the spelling and grammar. I can't even understand what some of you guys are trying to say!!!

[DogBreath]

The most pathetic part of this thread is the spelling and grammar. I can't even understand what some of you guys are trying to say!!!
That should have been, "The most pathetic parts of this thread are the spelling and grammar." Your subject and predicate were singular but referred to plural modifiers. Also, the lack of necessity for multiple terminal punctuation points should have been covered in your first day of grammar class.

[Latin Groover]

That should have been, "The most pathetic parts of this thread are the spelling and grammar." Your subject and predicate were singular but referred to plural modifiers. Also, the lack of necessity for multiple terminal punctuation points should have been covered in your first day of grammar class.

LOL. Go Dogbreath! U must've been an A+ at English.

[burnthehero]

From what I've seen, whether or not somebody likes Travis Barker depends on what side of the drumming "fence" they stand on. Guys that are into technique and fast chops tend to have a pretty good opinion of him. On the other side, guys that are more into the creative aspect of drumming tend to think he's a tool. Since I tend to stand close to the middle(or at least try to), I can appreciate what he offers to the world of drumming.

[DogBreath]

Since I tend to stand close to the middle(or at least try to), I can appreciate what he offers to the world of drumming.
Bravo. It would behoove all of us to attempt to take this attitude. There is so much more to appreciate if we just broaden our horizons. Or at the very least, realize that just because we don't particularly like something doesn't mean that it is inherently bad. Taste is personal. Chances are good that if a drummer is famous enough for you to know his name then a significant number of people are getting something out of his music.

[NUTHA JASON]

which is a good place to view all drummers well known enough to warrant their own thread here. they wouldn't be well known unless they did the job well. putting down any drummer who is on several records shows a lack of understanding and also reveals a certain jealousy. sometimes a drummer is simply told what to play and has to play what he is told. other times a drummer makes all the decisions. both are valid parts of the craft - with shades between. since we cannot know the actual process leading up to every finished product we cannot really stand in judgement. we can criticise to a degree but always with the humility of people who weren't there.

j

[DrumGod]

eh for a while when dave lombardo left slayer TRAVIS was asked to replace him so i think thats sayin something

[zildjian_dude101]

I think Travis is a very good drummer, but he's not one of those drummers who plays ok in the band songs, then plays amazing in the solos. He really lets loose in the songs. I will admit though, its mostly speed. He's very fast, but can also be technical. u have to remember though, it is a punk band. He did get the works when he was young too. Jazz lessons, scholl bands, etc. He's also still young. He'll get better over time. I think he's good.

[tylernator]

his drums and the beat he played on the boost mobile commercial was pretty sweet. He has so much dedication to drumming, he loves everything about him. And on that note, i can respect him. I do think he is an amazing drummer, not the greatest, but he is damn good. Try playing the begginning of feeling this..

[passenger]

you need a pad, and a td-6 module.... so around 600.00 or so

[lfdy]

Try playing the begginning of feeling this..

The beginning of feeling this isn't hard :)...

But i agree that he has skills, and his drumming is pretty ahead of most punkdrummers,so...cheers to him.

[ewanlaing]

it's harder than you think. lotsa ghost notes there. and whoever posted before you, don't laugh at the guy. have some self respect.

[Zildjian232]

well there is some ghosts notes but its not really anything. ive seen him do it many times. its just a triplet with a an accent on the first beat. nothing to hard

[lfdy]

it's harder than you think. lotsa ghost notes there. and whoever posted before you, don't laugh at the guy. have some self respect.

That's not harder than i think.

For a beginner, it's hard. But i think most of us aren't beginners here,so...

Dance of Eternity is hard :)

[IAmSpartacus99]

travis is a great drummer to get influences from....i mean, i play in all sorts of bands, but i started in a punk band, and i kept listening to him...his influence got my speed up, which gave me the confidence to feel like i was ready for anything...he's not the studio drummer best, because he doesn't put as much into that, but he makes everything faster and more amazing live for me to give him the credit he deserves...but i think he's great for people to listen to when first starting out on drums...you build up speed, and then you begin to look at all aspects of drumming differently...it makes some things seem easier...i guess what i'm trying to say is that i'm kind of proud to find people who don't criticize Travis Barker like they did in Drum! magazine....um, ya..

[ewanlaing]

That's not harder than i think.

For a beginner, it's hard. But i think most of us aren't beginners here,so...

Dance of Eternity is hard :)
ah, sorry. i know its not too hard, and i was mainly annoyed at the other guy laughing. i like how travis keeps a simple set, and is still able to do some really neat fills on it. although if you want simple, take a look at the subways drummer's set.

[lfdy]

ah, sorry. i know its not too hard, and i was mainly annoyed at the other guy laughing. i like how travis keeps a simple set, and is still able to do some really neat fills on it. although if you want simple, take a look at the subways drummer's set.

Yeah, true, he does invent some cool fills. He uses a lot of hihat in them too, that's a good thing.

I'm not a big fan of huge kits...

[beatsMcGee]

i guess since im such a huge fan of travis barker and always have been im gonna post my 2 cents worth. i really enjoy travis barkers chops, creativity, and style when it comes to playing. not only is he a amazing drummer but hes fun to watch. hes very animated and has a really distinctive sound. he grew up playin latin, jazz, and calypso style drumming so hes very well rounded. i suggest you guys download his MTV Duets episode and see how he taught a kid to drum along side him to "Stay together for the kids"-blink 182. he does some really cool fills in there, and displays his creativity very well. overall people should stop knockin travis and calling him a showoff, and overrated because if you did a little research before posting you'd find that the man has killer chops, and a very wicked style, and he intergrates it all together in a awesomly creative manner. thanks for your time.

[jollymosher]

I have allways loved travis. i knew a guy that has drumed with him, he said that he is a REALLY nice guy, and you give him a song, 3 mins you have an insane beat and creative fills. He is well rounded, shown in a video on this site. Also i find his stuff fun to play and to watch.
thank you for your time,
-Cj

[Hanky12]

Travis reminds me of the wild man from Borneo sometimes
He's all over the place like a mad man ha ha he he

[Redhead]

What type of heads would give me a sound simler to travis barker. I dont know many other drumers, but Blink 182 is basicly my favorit band.(please dont come here to flam me him or there music) Some other bands I like are AC DC, ZZ Tops, Green Day, Santania, Deep purple, U2, NOFX, Wezzer, Maticalica(Sp?) and many more.

Any sugestions of heads / tuning are welcomed. If it is posable I want to only change my batter heads.

Thank you,
Red

[Stu_Strib]

What type of heads would give me a sound simler to travis barker. I dont know many other drumers, but Blink 182 is basicly my favorit band.(please dont come here to flam me him or there music) Some other bands I like are AC DC, ZZ Tops, Green Day, Santania, Deep purple, U2, NOFX, Wezzer, Maticalica(Sp?) and many more.

Any sugestions of heads / tuning are welcomed. If it is posable I want to only change my batter heads.

Thank you,
Red

Deeper toms (Barkers are acryllic, no?) with 2 ply clear heads tuned low. You can't possible get the sound of all those bands you mentioned, since there are some really varying drum sounds in there.

Sounds like you are a candidate for Remo Pinstripes though, for sure.

[CHASEdrummer.]

I know that Barker used Remo Smooth White Emperors. I've used these before and there's a lot of attack and clarity with a decent amount of overtones. I'm not sure about the other drummers you listed though I would imagine that they all tend to use 2-ply heads of varying brands.

Hope that helps. Best of luck.
cheers.

[Redhead]

Good because i was thinking remo pin strips.
How about the ruff number of turns on the lugs?

[Led Opeth]

well for the best sound out of the drums, i tune them really low (1 360 turn of the tension rod)..but tuning is best left to experimentation considering i dont know what kind of kit you have, or how it would sound in your room...start out from 1 full turn and then just work your way up to how you like it

[zildjian_dude101]

Pinstripes are what your looking for dude. They give a pretty fat tone. Hydrolics will definitley work for the punk rock thing, but be warned. THEY HAVE NO OVERTONES OR RESPONSE. For punk rock though, I'd go for Hydrolics. Since you listed a few different rock bands who have different drum sounds, I'd go for the pinstripes.

[Redhead]

how are evens G2? and I think I would like the coated more not shore tho

[ewanlaing]

i don't like to get into comparing them. i assume travis is better, but it's dangerous territory.

his new band plus 44 only has one song to hear at the moment, and he only comes in at the end, but it pretty much sums up the average thing to expect from travis. speed and groove. any band would be proud of his talent i think.

[centralzeke]

Tre Cool and Travis Barker are incomparable. It's unfair to say one is better than the other. Their styles are totally different. I certainly like Barker's drumming more, but I wouldn't say he's "better". I wouldn't want Travis Barker to be the drummer for Green Day, they'd sound totally different (the same goes for vice versa).

Travis Barker is perfect for Blink 182 and he's a decent drummer. Period.

[NaturalRaz]

Regardless of what anyone has to say about him. I have heard many great things about his abilities as an instructor. In my opinon...thats a great thing.

[MmmmSweatpants]

you're exactly right - you cant compare their skill. nor can you compare any other drummers' skill. i mean, these two guys are in the same genre, and they're completely different - so how do all these guys come in and say that travis sucks compared to other great drummers? that's really more of the point i was trying to make.

to clarify, i never said travis was better - i just said he does more. there is more evidence of skill in what travis does in his music, but that doesnt even say anything for skill. i play myself, and playing with music is completely different than playing solos. so who's to say? but i do enjoy what travis does more than tre, and i think that has a lot to do with how original everything is that travis does. another point, again - he came up with all that on his own. copying it isnt too bad, but making it up? that is skill. and like raz said, being able to teach that to others is something to be highly noted, too.

and i could swear there are two songs out from plus 44. i dont know if it's true - i mean i got it off the internet, so who knows? there's the one "no it's not" but isnt there also "everything is alright" or something? or was that blink?



it seems im all about long posts...

[ollietroll]

Travis is just one of those icons u love to have as an icon when your younge and working in band...i mean real younge though! like 13 or tiny bit older...when i was that age i looked up to travis and dave grohl...them combined made me into a better drummer winning drumming comps at 14 i new it had something to do with icon drummers! travis may not b the best drummer but its his image and way he drums, some fills or techniques he does are behond me! i mean can any of u out there serously say u cud come up with the stuff he does...his solo's arnt hugly amazing...he doesnt go to much round the kit and to me a drum solo is more to do with drums then cymbals...but when i see his coolness and ability to punk rock people down to earth thats what gets me going and wanting to drum!

When a drummer performs and i can hear them play, then not long after i have the ergde to go drum...thats when u no u were listening to a good drummer! and i get that alot with travis. He's a cool rebel and i love that in drummers instead of some guy u dont even know the name to who sits behind the kit hitting a few drums...literaly!
All in all hes great and every1 noes it deep inside!

Rock on..

[ewanlaing]

it's the same basic style yes, but i find huge differences between the two. travis messes about with halving the time and more interesting cymbal patterns. but it's true that it is mostly still the basic punk 4/4 beat.

[pinkdaffodil]

Honestly, I had heard some BLink songs, and had quickley dismissed Travis as a...not interesting drummer....

Untill a friend of mine showed me some of the rudiments he is doing, and some of the more advanced stuff he is able to do. He started as a marching band drummer, so I guess that explains,

[tmv31]

I dont know if this is a little late or if you have already purchased the heads but I use the G2 coated and i like them a lot. Also you could try the EC2's ive never used them and they are fairly new but they are supposed to be in between a pinstripe and a G2. Hope this helps.

[Joops]

alright boys
here's the deal. i like travis a lot. he is my favourite drummer yeh. in fact, he's my idol. i go on most of these forums and stuff, and when the topic of travis barker comes up or something related to him, all it is is just a bunch of kids and drummers or whatever you wanna call yaselves just attacking the man. he is an extremely talented drummer. he does all kinds of stuff. he played in his school jazz bands and marching bands. he started playing by the time he was 4. he never took drumming seriously until his mum died at about 12. he got tattooed coz he didn't think he had anyone left to please so he did that and then became super into drums.

this man has played in latin, ska, jazz, reggae and "punk" bands. everyone rips him off as a punk drummer. don't call anyone a punk drummer. he is not just a punk drummer. also.
you mr bernhard. i am so dissapointed and angry with you. if you wanna say something about him, say something good. dude if yo're gonna put your drummers down, why even put him on this site. and don't go around putting down just a kid. that illbefamous guy. don't go around mocking him. that is just disgraceful.

sure trav gets stoned once in a while, smokes ciggies and drinks goes to parties and stuff. so what. just respect that. if you don't like it, then don't do it. just be real people and respect him as a person too. i try to incorporate his style and feel into everything i do and i play. this guy is a hero. he now plays all thjis hip hop stuff now. its really good to see and "punk drummer" as you call him, do other stuff. just coz he has a heap of tattoos doesn't mean that he's punk. you guys are just so blunt.
respect the man, he is talented. he isn't just the only drummer i like, i like all jazzers like buddy rich and art blakely. steve gadd too. all kinds of drummers. but theres heaps here to read so...it'll keep you busy and stop being so mean!!! >:( haha

just play nice boys

[Stu_Strib]

mr bernhard. i am so dissapointed and angry with you. if you wanna say something about him, say something good. dude if yo're gonna put your drummers down, why even put him on this site.

(Ok, Paula Abdul. Let me introduce my friend Simon Cowell.)

I think you miss the point entirely. Bernhard has him on the site because he is a famous and influential drummer. Drummers are famous and influential for varying reasons. Bernhard and the likes (myself and a few others) appreciate what he's accomplished, we just don't quite approve of the "logic" of the people that come in hear heaping praise after praise upon a drummer who quite frankly doesn't play very musically, or interesting to anyone not enamored by cliche, formulaic pop-culture.

Also, I think you should use some capital letters in your posts to give your points a hint of credibility.

The entire discussion forum exists to discuss anything and everything. If we all just said nice things, there would be nothing to discuss. Besides, Bernhard has supported drummers he doesn't care for on several occassions. He has the best drummer collection on the net for a reason.

The topic of 'Travis Barker' and why he gets so much praise for being a rather dull and average drummer is perfectly legit. You don't think his antics and his appearance have anything to do with his popularity and it is all his 'awesome drumming skill'?

[Joops]

Dull, average drummer?

what the fXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX homie?

he is god forsaken creative and a half. plus he's got the appeal to influence.

dull drummer...i'm not just saying i like barker too man...i'm not praisin no one.
dude. he was into everything and still is.

he ain't dull or average. he is an extremely talented drummer. the man knows what he's doing and is always struggling to improve. to be a better musician..

[Stu_Strib]

Ok, I take it back. Joops is obviously the well spoken one here, and Bernhard really is a classless fool for stating HIS opinion on HIS own website.

For the record, terms like "dull" "uninspiring" and "boring" are RELATIVE to the other drummers of the world. Notice I didn't say he "sucks", "can't play", "has no rhythm". Shall we keep the discourse thoughtful and meaningful instead of cursing and throwing around challenges?

What does Travis Barker's ability have to do with my ability again? Last time I checked, Roger Ebert is a movie critic with no acting credentials.

I get paid to play and teach drums. That makes me a professional too. I am famous: famous for ripping Sabian B8 cymbals and people's overreaching praise for ok drummers like Travis Barker ;-)

So instead of focusing on me, why don't you persuade me otherwise that Barker isn't an average drummer?

(i am placing an editorial bit in here Joop so i know you will read it: no swearing on this forum. one warning only - NUTHA JASON)

[Bernhard]

you mr bernhard. i am so dissapointed and angry with you. if you wanna say something about him, say something good. dude if yo're gonna put your drummers down, why even put him on this site. and don't go around putting down just a kid. that illbefamous guy. don't go around mocking him. that is just disgraceful.

Yes Travis Barker is a good Drummer - not a kid.

Bernhard

[foursticks]

i think joops made himself look a bit foolish on his rampage, but we're all friends now right?

[Iceman1337]

i have to agree about the fuel solo. i was not impressed. i think most people here could have played that. on my blink dvd there is a higher quality version of the other solo on this site and it's much better. at one point, you can't even tell what he's doing it's so fast. was he controlling the lights with a pedal for that fuel solo? cos he never moves his high hat pedal and theres a little mechanism next to him. that would explain a lot. anyone know?

I can clear this up, sorry if someone else already did. Travis broke his right ankle skateboarding, and had to buy a double pedal. He used his left foot for the bass drum along with the trigger next to his hi hat. Thats what you saw his left foot doing and the light was lined up with the music. If you listen carefully you can hear the music he's playing along with. That is also why he has a hi hat on the right side of his floor tom.

Hope this clarified this matter.

As for Travis or Tre? I personally prefer Travis. I have learned most of the songs. I know that if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be nearly as good as I am today. Just emulating what he plays works out chops and endurance. I just enjoy listening to a good drummer play. Not to say that Travis is the only good drummer. Not by any means. I am speaking of any good drummer. I just get into it.

[Tex12]

Did Travis ever make a video?
If yes!
Where is it?

[ewanlaing]

i wouldn't describe travis as dull.
nor would i describe him as particularly fascinating. he is medium in terms of interest. i think the confusion here is that people are taking "dull" to mean "untalented." as stu pointed out, that is not the case. i can understand why people may find him dull. i find it harder to understand poeple thinking he isn't very good at playing. i think he is very good, but perhaps he is a bit too mechanical.

[Stu_Strib]

i think the confusion here is that people are taking "dull" to mean "untalented." as stu pointed out, that is not the case.

I will concede and admit that his "busy work" is at time interesting. He thinks of little bell hits and pedal steps that other pop drummers wouldn't even think of. For me, though, his running rudimental single/double stroke snare solos are extremely dull. Dull as in boring and uninspiring. Dull as in when my students haven't quite learned how to groove yet, and they are just barely playing the patterns.

My actual disdain for Travis Barker stems just from matters of taste. What he plays is just not very tasteful. Playing lots of notes isn't always the best thing.

[luke-e-p]

Boxcar racer stuff is his best to be honest, some really nice beats there.

Travis barker is a jazz drummer by the way, listen to his rudiments!

[Stu_Strib]

Boxcar racer stuff is his best to be honest, some really nice beats there.

Travis barker is a jazz drummer by the way, listen to his rudiments!


Um, sorry, no. Jeff Hamilton is a jazz drummer. Please compare the two.

[skippy]

he is the reason i began playing drums but gadd weckle and all those greats are the reason for me to still play. barkers stuff is good it taught me to how to be fast. his transplants stuff is different and the newest transplants cd has a latin style song there is some jazzish stuff if diverse but alot of people think fast and famous when they hear his name. but hes rad.

[Elvin4ever]

he is the reason i began playing drums but gadd weckle and all those greats are the reason for me to still play. barkers stuff is good it taught me to how to be fast. his transplants stuff is different and the newest transplants cd has a latin style song there is some jazzish stuff if dive