Travis Barker

[ceckha]

famous people in general don't mix with planes. i'm sure he'll pull through.

[Diaz]

famous people in general don't mix with planes. i'm sure he'll pull through.
Famous people are demanded all throughout the world therefore they HAVE to use planes. Travis will pull through and still be an inspiration to many drummers

[Steamer]

Critical condition with extensive burns is the latest update from the hospital treating him I just heard on the net. Might be a lengthy recovery...

[Steady Freddy]

Critical condition with extensive burns is the latest update from the hospital treating him I just heard on the net. Might be a lengthy recovery...

Yep. Burns are horrible. It will be a very long recovery. This is really a sad thing to hear about. Really sad that anyone should have to go through this.

My prayers are with him.

[awe_1]

wow just heard the news. Hope he gets better from the plane crash: a criticle but stable state, shows how serious it was.. I hear also one of his best friends died in the crash aswell. get well Travis!!

[drumpunk]

i hope they both get better, thats to bad that happened. Also, does anyone know how to play the beginning of the travis barker boost mobile muscle suit video??? its about seconds 1 threw 6. i would really appreciate it if someone could help me. Thanks!!!

[LM201]

I don't like his drumming, but he's a fellow human being and he's a better drummer than me. Just like that damn Karen Carpenter...

[remoking]

It's great to hear that Travis and DJ AM are expected to fully recover!

So much for some of his tatoos lol.

[drummer_kid]

i hope they both get better, thats to bad that happened. Also, does anyone know how to play the beginning of the travis barker boost mobile muscle suit video??? its about seconds 1 threw 6. i would really appreciate it if someone could help me. Thanks!!!

Yes! hard to explain though... but i'll try. he takes his left hadn and does doubls w/ the high tom and w/ his right hand doubles on snare.. then he switches and does the same thing just w/ the snare and floor tom and finishes it off w/ a role. that is if my memory is complete..

[LeeLovesSabian]

I think he did a good remix of "soulja boy"
Even though I despise that song

[drummer girl09]

Talking about hittin hard on the thread, this guy hits the hardest I think. A friend of mine did a cover of soulja boy, and he did it just as good, but didn't hit nearly as hard, and none of the fancy stuff T.B did. Shows that you don't have to hit hard to sound/be good.

[Jonesy]

Talking about hittin hard on the thread, this guy hits the hardest I think. A friend of mine did a cover of soulja boy, and he did it just as good, but didn't hit nearly as hard, and none of the fancy stuff T.B did. Shows that you don't have to hit hard to sound/be good.

Who ever said you had to hit hard to sound good?

[trkdrmr]

I am a recent follower of Travis work. No, I don't think he is the be-all-and-end-all that I read about. He doesn't seem like the second coming, or someone who could out drum Buddy Rich.

But what I do think about his is he is creative, and brings a great energy into drumming. He is very kinetic and lively. I have been listening to the best of Blink 182 when I am stuck over here, and I can see why he is popular. He is very entertaining to listen to and watch. His energy and larger than life stage presence psyches me up to play. He works hard and earned his accolades, carving his own niche. He just gets a little too deified sometimes.

I am very greatful that he recoved from his horrific plane crash. I hope he is successful with his legal endeavors and getting back on the throne. He is a monster talent in any regard.

[LM201]

Talking about hittin hard on the thread, this guy hits the hardest I think. A friend of mine did a cover of soulja boy, and he did it just as good, but didn't hit nearly as hard, and none of the fancy stuff T.B did. Shows that you don't have to hit hard to sound/be good.

Maybe it was because with Travis you heard HIS tuning, HIS drums, HIS cymbals, and his drums were condensed.

Say you got drums and cymbals exactly like Neil Peart. You can tune them the same, use the same sticks and still they won't sound anything like they do in a recording or in a setting where mics are used.

I have the Paragon ride and I can tell you it doesn't sound exactly the same as Neil's on the R30 DVD

[drummer girl09]

Who ever said you had to hit hard to sound good?



There was a huge thread on it. It was a huge debate on it. Sorry if I offended some one, just my opinion.

[DrummerDavid]

Travis does nothing for me. I have respect for him...but I just don't get it.

[ian123]

alright this has probably been said already but im not about to read all 1000 of these posts so here it goes. Travis Barker IS a good drummer but the reason so many people hate him is this: people who dont play drums watch him and think hes good because he plays fast, which angers people who do play drums. Then, those people start saying how its easy to play fast and that they can do it too and Travis is overrated, etc. However, the reason he is a good drummer is not because hes fast, but because of the creativity he uses in all of his songs, as well as how defined his style is. You can listen to any given song with him on drums and immediately tell its him, and thats not something that many drummers can say about themselves. So what im saying is no, hes not the best but he is definately a good drummer to say the least.

[tomgrosset]

alright this has probably been said already but im not about to read all 1000 of these posts so here it goes. Travis Barker IS a good drummer but the reason so many people hate him is this: people who dont play drums watch him and think hes good because he plays fast, which angers people who do play drums. Then, those people start saying how its easy to play fast and that they can do it too and Travis is overrated, etc. However, the reason he is a good drummer is not because hes fast, but because of the creativity he uses in all of his songs, as well as how defined his style is. You can listen to any given song with him on drums and immediately tell its him, and thats not something that many drummers can say about themselves. So what im saying is no, hes not the best but he is definately a good drummer to say the least.

I also wanna add that the reason why he's viewed as being so talented is because he was in a well known band called Blink 182. That definitely got his name out there.

Personally, the one thing that annoys me about Travis is that it's not Travis himself, it's the vast amount of people, who aren't musically oriented, who compare Travis to a very talented drummer who actually have an amazing talent like Buddy Rich or Tony Williams for example. That to me is so ridiculous and simply isn't feasible. You can't compare the two although I do see it all the time especially on YouTube. In my eyes, Travis is overrated but he does have some good ideas and he has inspired millions of people so I give him credit for that.

[remoking]

alright this has probably been said already but im not about to read all 1000 of these posts so here it goes. Travis Barker IS a good drummer but the reason so many people hate him is this: people who dont play drums watch him and think hes good because he plays fast, which angers people who do play drums. Then, those people start saying how its easy to play fast and that they can do it too and Travis is overrated, etc. However, the reason he is a good drummer is not because hes fast, but because of the creativity he uses in all of his songs, as well as how defined his style is. You can listen to any given song with him on drums and immediately tell its him, and thats not something that many drummers can say about themselves. So what im saying is no, hes not the best but he is definately a good drummer to say the least.

I agree. I don't think he's the best drummer ever, lol that's ridiculous. Nor did I think that before I started drumming. However, I've always been inspired by Travis, and was a big fan of his old band, Blink-182. I also understand though why so many people think he's "overrated". He did get a lot of publicity from his reality show "Meet the Barkers". I will say this...I think it would be quite an unfair assumption for someone to just flat out say...Travis Isn't good. The fact that he does have speed, and can use it in a creative way, is something alot of people don't have.

[805Drummer]

I also wanna add that the reason why he's viewed as being so talented is because he was in a well known band called Blink 182. That definitely got his name out there.


The reason Blink-182 was popular is because it had Travis Barker in it, not the other way around.

[remoking]

The reason Blink-182 was popular is because it had Travis Barker in it, not the other way around.

When Travis came into the band and replaced their old drummer, Scott Raynor...Travis wasn't even that big yet. Travis alone isn't the reason why Blink was so big.

[805Drummer]

When Travis came into the band and replaced their old drummer, Scott Raynor...Travis wasn't even that big yet. Travis alone isn't the reason why Blink was so big.

Yes, but after that, I think Travis was the main reason for the band's success.

[travisbarkerfan]

halo, i love travis barker, travis barker is so cool!

[travisbarkerfan]

hey bro, i need travis barker's drums sheet, can you give me that, please?

[drummer girl09]

I was watching this video of Buddy Rich doing a solo or something, and some of the comments below were like, "Travis Barker could beat his butt (the censored word) if Buddy was still alive..." and all this junk. That is what makes me mad is when non-drummers compare Barker to the old school drummers like Buddy and say that Travis can beat him. You can't compare different genres of music. Of course Travis would be better at pop and rock then Buddy, but Buddy has got him down on the old school kind of music like jazz.
Sorry, I had to get that off my chest.

But yeah Travis is a really good drummer, and definably creative. He can create the new stuff, but the drummers that have seen him play the stuff can probably play the same stuff. The only plus for Travis is that HE created the grooves and stuff. If that makes sense...tell me if it doesn't and I will try to explain better.

[That Guy]

I was watching this video of Buddy Rich doing a solo or something, and some of the comments below were like, "Travis Barker could beat his butt (the censored word) if Buddy was still alive..." and all this junk. That is what makes me mad is when non-drummers compare Barker to the old school drummers like Buddy and say that Travis can beat him. You can't compare different genres of music. Of course Travis would be better at pop and rock then Buddy, but Buddy has got him down on the old school kind of music like jazz.
Sorry, I had to get that off my chest.

But yeah Travis is a really good drummer, and definably creative. He can create the new stuff, but the drummers that have seen him play the stuff can probably play the same stuff. The only plus for Travis is that HE created the grooves and stuff. If that makes sense...tell me if it doesn't and I will try to explain better.

Most drummers cringe at the thought of comparing these guys. You can't.

[Aggressivec]

His work with the Aquabats is absolutly awesome. Other then that, hee sucks. Check out "The Cat with 2 heads".

[drummer girl09]

Most drummers cringe at the thought of comparing these guys. You can't.

That's exactly what I mean, you absolutely can't compare can't compare a modern drummer to a drummer in the early 1920s. It's an insult really.

[Tank322]

why does everyone fight over travis barker "HES AMAZING" "HE HAS NO TALENT IM BETTER THEN HIM" who cares everyone has an opinion of people and fighting over whos better and whos worse is pointless because you will still have those people who hate or love him i personally like him. i just think its stupid the man plays drums and loves it and who cares if he plays hard hes into and hes just having fun isnt that what your supposed to do when you drum have fun and if drum for other reasons and dont have fun playing i dont think you should play drums because as serious as i am for drumming getting better and making music in my band i always have fun imo thats the most important aspect of drumming. thats my two cents and did you guys here BLINK182 is back im so pumped.

[Toza]

His work with the Aquabats is absolutly awesome. Other then that, hee sucks. Check out "The Cat with 2 heads".

true !

[michael drums]

Anybody know how he's doing since the accident? Has he recovered to the point of returning to the drums?

Just thought I'd ask.

Thanks. ;-)

[beatsMcGee]

Anybody know how he's doing since the accident? Has he recovered to the point of returning to the drums?

Just thought I'd ask.

Thanks. ;-)

as far as I know he got to the point where he was playing again, infact he did a few shows with DJ-AM, but then he had to go back into the hospital because of some nerve damaged that left his fingers numb. This resulted in another surgury (which you could see his arm in a sling at the grammy presentation) and now hes got 8 weeks or so to recover before hopping back behind the kit...im excited though because blink is back and I cant wait to see their new work/tour...

also check out his myspace page for more info.. he posted pics and a detailed explanation of what happened to his arm most reciently.

cheers

[michael drums]

as far as I know he got to the point where he was playing again, infact he did a few shows with DJ-AM, but then he had to go back into the hospital because of some nerve damaged that left his fingers numb. This resulted in another surgury (which you could see his arm in a sling at the grammy presentation) and now hes got 8 weeks or so to recover before hopping back behind the kit...im excited though because blink is back and I cant wait to see their new work/tour...

also check out his myspace page for more info.. he posted pics and a detailed explanation of what happened to his arm most reciently.

cheers

Really? That's good to hear about TB. Hope he's back to 100% soon.

And to hear that Blink is back...WOW! This should be very interesting.

Thanks, beats! ;-)

[SGT_Drummer]

i'm not going to debate whether he is a great drummer or not because as that has been stated, it's all a matter of opinion. fact of the matter is; his hands are very fast, he's very good with his footwork, and he is also very good at throwing accents and stuff into a song to break up the monotany that is typically associated with punk or pop-punk music.

if you want to compare him, then compare him to other drummers of his genre. he's famous because he goes above and beyond the basics. 95% of punk and pop punk drummers don't even attempt to vary from the gospel double time (as it relates to punk). and with the remaining 5%, he takes the cake. sure everybody can play a fast beat, vids are all over youtube of gerald heyward, dave weckl, vinnie coluta (i grossley misspelled that) doing this beat, but everyone else didn't get famous from doing it. he did. which goes to say something.

[sk8erpnkmt369]

All I want to say is Travis was my introduction to the drumset. Ever since I was little I've known I've wanted to play music. It was the power rangers theme song that gave me that idea (isn't that just an awesome theme song?). But it wasn't until around the 7th grade where I started listening to Blink and just automatically picked travis out from the mix. The dude totally went above and beyond the call of duty for his genre without making it too far fetched to distract you, and it so worked.

And now I'll be playing with my band and just totally doing work on the drums and, if we decided to do live recording of the practice, I will be listening to it realizing how much of an inspiration he was and is on me. I can literally pick out a snare bass drum lead-up and say, "wow, that's so travis barker."

Whether or not you think he's over-rated he has been a HUGE inspiration to so many drummers.

And I know what you guys are thinking....

... and yes, when I heard blink was back I DID in fact cry.

[beatsMcGee]

All I want to say is Travis was my introduction to the drumset. Ever since I was little I've known I've wanted to play music. It was the power rangers theme song that gave me that idea (isn't that just an awesome theme song?). But it wasn't until around the 7th grade where I started listening to Blink and just automatically picked travis out from the mix. The dude totally went above and beyond the call of duty for his genre without making it too far fetched to distract you, and it so worked.

And now I'll be playing with my band and just totally doing work on the drums and, if we decided to do live recording of the practice, I will be listening to it realizing how much of an inspiration he was and is on me. I can literally pick out a snare bass drum lead-up and say, "wow, that's so travis barker."

Whether or not you think he's over-rated he has been a HUGE inspiration to so many drummers.

And I know what you guys are thinking....

... and yes, when I heard blink was back I DID in fact cry.

You and I are in the same boat as far as, Travis being the main reason you got heavy into drumming. But what I like so much him is that when you do some reserach, and listen to interviews, he lists his drumming heroes as: gadd, chambers, buddy rich, lombardo, cobham, weckl and on and on... the significance of this is that when these "new to drums" drummers get infected with Travis and learn who he looked up to, they will inturn begin to see what inspired Travis and in turn aspire to new heights... (I.E they get hooked on the greats)... that is why I like Travis so much....he is a great influence musically on new drummers.

also he stresses the importance of reading/writing music and rudiments etc...

[remoking]

I still think it's entirely ridiculous how many people find Travis Barker so "overrated". I think that fact in itself is "overrated". He deserves every bit of recognition he gets. He's collaborated with so many hip-hop artists out there, he's had his own reality show, he runs a clothing line (going on strong for 10 years now). Oh and not to mention...he's in the biggest punk rock band in the world. Blink 182 is the very genesis of the punk rock scene today. I can't even begin to explain how big they are in European countries, let alone the U.S.

Blink-182, 17 years deep in their legacy.

[andSometimesY]

The only good thing about Travis Barker is that he gets people in to drumming. The fact that he runs a clothing line or is in a famous group does NOT make him a better drummer, however. He is not a very skilled drummer, per se, but he does seem to be feeling the music that he plays, and that makes appear a bit more skillful to the non-drummer. I disagree with the above poster as I think that he is extremely overrated, but that is not Travis' fault, it is the people who talk about how good he is.

[Mastershake16]

I still think it's entirely ridiculous how many people find Travis Barker so "overrated". I think that fact in itself is "overrated". He deserves every bit of recognition he gets. He's collaborated with so many hip-hop artists out there, he's had his own reality show, he runs a clothing line (going on strong for 10 years now). Oh and not to mention...he's in the biggest punk rock band in the world. Blink 182 is the very genesis of the punk rock scene today. I can't even begin to explain how big they are in European countries, let alone the U.S.

Blink-182, 17 years deep in their legacy.

Excuse me sir, Blink aren't punk rock, not saying they're bad but they're not punk in it's definition

[remoking]

Excuse me sir, Blink aren't punk rock, not saying they're bad but they're not punk in it's definition

hahaha. Sir, are you kidding me?!?

PLEASE tell me your joking. Their last album, the self-titled album, was a big departure from all previous albums, as it was darker, and heavier influenced, but without a doubt remains in the punk rock genre.

[remoking]

The only good thing about Travis Barker is that he gets people in to drumming. The fact that he runs a clothing line or is in a famous group does NOT make him a better drummer, however. He is not a very skilled drummer, per se, but he does seem to be feeling the music that he plays, and that makes appear a bit more skillful to the non-drummer. I disagree with the above poster as I think that he is extremely overrated, but that is not Travis' fault, it is the people who talk about how good he is.

Running a clothing line most certainly does not make him a better drummer in any way lol. I mentioned that because Famous Stars and Straps is quickly becoming more and more popular everyday, and Travis is the mastermind behind it. More FSAS clothing = more recognition for Travis. Nor does Blink make him a better drummer. It's the fact that the three of them as a band are so successful at what they do, they have millions upon millions of fans.

[andSometimesY]

He is most certainly an accomplished man and not overrated at all as a person or celebrity, only as a drummer.

[remoking]

here's a look at what Travis has in store for Blink 182 fans as they kick off their reunuion tour tomorrow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__4fnThN9qw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_MfdhKOqMc

[Drums&Beer]

here's a look at what Travis has in store for Blink 182 fans as they kick off their reunuion tour tomorrow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__4fnThN9qw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_MfdhKOqMc

Not to be outdone of course by the true master of the flying drumset

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i9xs_AG6BI

[Kongo]

hahaha. Sir, are you kidding me?!?

PLEASE tell me your joking. Their last album, the self-titled album, was a big departure from all previous albums, as it was darker, and heavier influenced, but without a doubt remains in the punk rock genre.


You're wrong. It's more punk pop/alternative. Bad Religion is punk rock, along with many other "real" punk rock bands. By the way, travis barker is very over rated.

[remoking]

You're wrong. It's more punk pop/alternative. Bad Religion is punk rock, along with many other "real" punk rock bands. By the way, travis barker is very over rated.

You're very overrated and have no idea what you're talking about.

[Kongo]

You're very overrated and have no idea what you're talking about.

I have no idea? You crack me up. Please explain how I am overrated, I can't wait to hear this one, bub. I'm guessing you wear all Travis Barkers stupid clothes and try to be just like him. "Blink-182 is an American rock band from Poway, California that predominantly plays pop punk music"

Thanks, have a bad day.

P.S -


YDKS.

[remoking]

I have no idea? You crack me up. Please explain how I am overrated, I can't wait to hear this one, bub. I'm guessing you wear all Travis Barkers stupid clothes and try to be just like him. "Blink-182 is an American rock band from Poway, California that predominantly plays pop punk music"

Thanks, have a bad day.

P.S -


YDKS.

You don't have any idea. You crack me up too. Allow me to explain how you're overrated. I'm sure you can't wait to hear this one, bub. I'm guessing you don't wear all Travis Barkers stupid clothes and don't try to be just like him. "Blink-182 is an American rock band from Poway, California that predominantly plays pop punk music" -Straight from wiki. Look's like someone has done their research. To flat out call me wrong is quite hysterical. Maybe you're thinking of AVA - they're Pop/Rock.

So. watch this early video of blink, and tell me it isn't punk. bub.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZMqpBygM8U

Hahha and not saying that I do (I'm a 205 lbs. highschool football player; you'll usually catch me in a cut-off tee and some nike shorts) wear quote, "travis barker" clothes, but what would be wrong with that? It would be a way of showing support for an icon. It would be no different than wearing nike or underarmor.

P.S.

Want to re-think your "YDKS" comment now?

[Kongo]

Nah, I won't rethink anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_punk_bands,_0%E2%80%93K


Read what it says for Blink-182.

A pop-punk band who were very popular between 1999 and 2005.


Let me guess, wikipedia is wrong....


LOL@U You're just a poser, and follower who has crappy taste in music that you don't even know what the real genre is.

LISTEN TO MESHUGGAH, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TALENT.


P.S - Real punks bands are like "The Clash" - "The Addicts" "Bad Religion" "Dropkick Murphys"


WE CAN DO THIS ALL DAY.

The mainstream pop punk of latter-day bands such as Blink-182 is criticized by many punk rock devotees; in critic Christine Di Bella's words, "It's punk taken to its most accessible point, a point where it barely reflects its lineage at all, except in the three-chord song structures."


http://www.last.fm/group/Punk/forum/12570/_/288666


LET ME GUESS, THEY ARE ALL WRONG ALSO? ^

By the way, I'm still waiting for you to say how I'm over rated.

[remoking]

Nah, I won't rethink anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_punk_bands,_0%E2%80%93K


Read what it says for Blink-182.

A pop-punk band who were very popular between 1999 and 2005.


Let me guess, wikipedia is wrong....


LOL@U You're just a poser, and follower who has crappy taste in music that you don't even know what the real genre is.

LISTEN TO MESHUGGAH, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TALENT.


P.S - Real punks bands are like "The Clash" - "The Addicts" "Bad Religion" "Dropkick Murphys"


WE CAN DO THIS ALL DAY.

The mainstream pop punk of latter-day bands such as Blink-182 is criticized by many punk rock devotees; in critic Christine Di Bella's words, "It's punk taken to its most accessible point, a point where it barely reflects its lineage at all, except in the three-chord song structures."


http://www.last.fm/group/Punk/forum/12570/_/288666


LET ME GUESS, THEY ARE ALL WRONG ALSO? ^

By the way, I'm still waiting for you to say how I'm over rated.


ALL DAY BABY...ALL DAY

LOUD NOISES

Poser noob!!!








Yours truely, bub.

[Serious Pie Enthusiast]

there once was a day when music was bought from stores. and they categorized it as rock, jazz, pop and classical

now there's all this shit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_styles_of_music:_A-F

[DrewTheShoe]

This fight is not only immature (on one side, excuse me), but also one-sided and funny. I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

[jay_roub_drummer]

Travis Barker is a great drummer.
who cares if blink182 is punk-rock,or pop-punk,or brutaldeath xD

He is an original drummer,and that´s all.

[BoxcarDrummer182]

as a rolling stone article read in this month's issue, "blink182, either you love them or you hate them, is one of the defining bands of the last decade" let's be real here, blink182, as much as some of you must hate them, has really paved the way for every emo, pop-punk, punk, post hardcore, and scene band out there today. sure travis barker isn't the greatest drummer out there, but he has talent. i saw blink a couple nights ago in Mansfield, MA and travis's solo was really awesome. sure it was pretty simple (nothing but cool hiphop beats and 32nd notes) but it was entertaining if anything. i've been listening to blink since i was about 4 years old, dude ranch being my first cd, and i've always been nothing but entertained by them. some of the stuff is a little impressive but never anything jaw-dropping. but i dont think a band has to play in 19 different time signatures, change tempos every 4 measures, have sweeping guitar solos, and a monster drum set, to be impressive. it's the same thing with a lot of drummers. my friend told me "you're not that good cause you only play in 4/4 and don't do poly rhythms." and it's just like, why do i have to do that? i'm good at what i do, i can keep a beat, have a flashy fill once and a while, and stay on tempo. personally i hate drummers like mike portnoy, thomas hakke, and all those progressive players. not cause they're not good, but because i think it's just simply over playing. i'd rather listen to a simple bass on 1 and 3, snare of 2 and 4 song with a dirty guitar and root note bass line than a crazy poly rhythm, confusing guitar part, and almost robotic bass part. as paul mcartney once said "music shouldn't be confusing, it should be magically simple." so just because travis barker is flashy and not technical doesn't make him terrible. if you want to talk about amazing drummers, lets talk meg white...

[jonescrusher]

let's be real here, blink182, as much as some of you must hate them, has really paved the way for every emo, pop-punk, punk, post hardcore, and scene band out there today.


I think that may be a lot of peoples' problem with them :{

[Mathew 7:21]

Im going to see Blink play on Wed. at Hershey Park. Im taking my 14 year old daughter. I like Barker I think he's the perfect drummer for that band....plays fast and clean. (Im 37) Ha Ha!!

[BoxcarDrummer182]

I think that may be a lot of peoples' problem with them :{
sure you can say that, but it takes a lot for a band to start a genre.

[starkeydrums]

i scoured youtube for ANY travis barker video of him doing ANY good drumming.
my result: 0 vids. the only 'clever' one is where hes on the moving platform playing, as guessed, straight 16th notes with no groove, feel, or any other musical technicality.

imo, travis is a hack. and the only reason people like him is because he ''looks'' cool while playing. if they could open their eyes past that, then he wouldnt have such a large fan base.
sure, he came from blink 182, but all i ever saw in them was a grown-up jonas brothers... all looks, not-so-great music IMO

[jonescrusher]

sure you can say that, but it takes a lot for a band to start a genre.


Meh. I'd barely call it genre-starting, there were bands around before them that they took inspiration, and bands have subsequently done the same. Even so, it's such a poor and fruitless genre that it's better just to concentrate on their own output.

[remoking]

i scoured youtube for ANY travis barker video of him doing ANY good drumming.
my result: 0 vids. the only 'clever' one is where hes on the moving platform playing, as guessed, straight 16th notes with no groove, feel, or any other musical technicality.

imo, travis is a hack. and the only reason people like him is because he ''looks'' cool while playing. if they could open their eyes past that, then he wouldnt have such a large fan base.
sure, he came from blink 182, but all i ever saw in them was a grown-up jonas brothers... all looks, not-so-great music IMO

lol are you really comparing them to the jonas brothers? (don't think the jonas brothers are past the "PG" type of lifestyle) and I would like to see you beat travis in a drum off. Then I'll respect your comments.

One other thing, it's not like Travis set out to be a solo artist, professional drummer. So the fact that he's as famous as he is....must mean he's doing something right, considering he's just the drummer for a punk rock band.

[bbking]

anyone else think travis is abit shit ?? not as good as steve vai man i love his fills on run to the hills !!! who agrees with me ??

[182TB@rK3Rfan182]

anyone else think travis is abit shit ?? not as good as steve vai man i love his fills on run to the hills !!! who agrees with me ??


"His reputation is expanding faster than the universe. He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels. He lives vicariously for himself...He is, the most interesting man in the world"; Travis Barker.

[DrewTheShoe]

"His reputation is expanding faster than the universe. He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels. He lives vicariously for himself...He is, the most interesting man in the world"; Travis Barker.

Alright, that's a Dos Equis commercial, and Travis Barker is nowhere near as awesome as the man that can speak Russian in French.

[bbking]

maybe you should stop staring at how 'cool' he looks and listen to some real drummers

[RollingStone000]

maybe you should stop staring at how 'cool' he looks and listen to some real drummers

Cold blooded... I like it.

[182TB@rK3Rfan182]

maybe you should stop staring at how 'cool' he looks and listen to some real drummers

what?!? Drumming is all about LOOKING COOL. Travis does it quite well, while playing quite well. Endo story.

[Bernhard]

anyone else think travis is abit shit ?? not as good as steve vai man i love his fills on run to the hills !!! who agrees with me ??

eleven or 12?

Bernhard

[RollingStone000]

what?!? Drumming is all about LOOKING COOL. Travis does it quite well, while playing quite well. Endo story.

Actually drumming is about keeping a rhythm and time, not about looking cool. Looking cool is just incidental bi-product, and it comes with what? Keeping time, being able to hold down the beat, and elaborating on tastefully. Barker looks like he's suffering from spasm when he plays. If he spent half of the energy he puts into making it look like he plays into actually playing he'd be able to do twice as much. End OF story.

P.S. He should really stop pouting during photo shoots. Pouting is NOT cool. This isn't the damn 1980's.

[182TB@rK3Rfan182]

Actually drumming is about keeping a rhythm and time, not about looking cool. Looking cool is just incidental bi-product, and it comes with what? Keeping time, being able to hold down the beat, and elaborating on tastefully. Barker looks like he's suffering from spasm when he plays. If he spent half of the energy he puts into making it look like he plays into actually playing he'd be able to do twice as much. End OF story.

P.S. He should really stop pouting during photo shoots. Pouting is NOT cool. This isn't the damn 1980's.

Ok ok, your right. Drumming isn't about looking cool. However, I have just as much appreciation for Travis Barker as I do for Steve Gadd, or Gene Krupa. I can also understand why so many people are upset that Travis recieves so much attention, moreso than many other professional drummers out there. However, Travis has always been involved with the teens/young adults. I'm sure if half of these people actually knew a thing or two about music/drumming, they would re-think their statement that Travis is "the best in the world". (more chances than not, people are just saying this as a figure of speech) BUT, because the majority of these people may not care about the technicalities of drumming, they don't really care to know much more about it, or do any of their own research. I have never thought Travis has ever set out to be THE BEST IN THE WORLD. He just does what he loves, doesn't brag about himself, appreciates all of his fans, and he enjoys life playing in one of the biggest punk/pop bands in the world. I attended a show they played the other night, with 30,000+ people at it...insaine. You gotta give him props for his speed and creativity though. ( A big reason why he is so much more famous than those average, crappy drummers for crappy bands that no one listens to like; Panic! At The Disco, All Time Low, Fall Out Boy, Boys Like Girls, and any other crappy emo wannabe band that was influenced by blink 182, but will never be as good) I think alot of technical drummers frown upon his style/looks/"coolness", which comes from Travis being so involved with the hip-hop lifestyle, playing with DJ AM and what not...However, the thing about Travis is, he's always been himself, since he first poped up in the music scene 15 years ago. It's not like he's gradually become more and more of something he hasn't already always been, just to get more attention from the younger generation of fans. His style, his look, his taste in music has always been the same.

Also, where did you come up with the fact that he complains about photo shoots lol? Did you read this in the press somewhere? Take a look at this video...looks to me that Travis is quite enjoying himself..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9a3rVvo3aA

[RollingStone000]

He is a very humble cat, I'll give you that. And I know he's a big Buddy Rich fan, and personality wise he's probably the polar opposite of Buddy. I've come to realize that it's not Barker I have a problem with, it's his damn fans (and the young ones in particular, who haven't been exposed to other things and may never be). And fans of drummers in general, they're the ones who start comparing one guy to another which ultimately comes down to the viewer/listeners perspective and preferences.


Also, where did you come up with the fact that he complains about photo shoots lol? Did you read this in the press somewhere? Take a look at this video...looks to me that Travis is quite enjoying himself..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9a3rVvo3aA

I didn't mean it as he was complaining, but about a year or so after that first Blink album with him on it came out he gradually started posing with his lips pouting (don't know if it's because of the lip ring or what). To me, it makes him look like a douche. And I've seen interviews with him and he doesn't do that, but you put him in a photo shoot, and the guy
looks like he's pursing his lips.

[donv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOfsr9D-KXU

This really says it all.

Like Tommy Lee, he's a good musician, I like what he does and he's a great showman but he's a mediocre drummer. He's also one non-stop, anurism waiting to happen, after the fact heart attack ball of energy. If you look up amphetemine in Webster's it must say Travis somewhere.

[182TB@rK3Rfan182]

He is a very humble cat, I'll give you that. And I know he's a big Buddy Rich fan, and personality wise he's probably the polar opposite of Buddy. I've come to realize that it's not Barker I have a problem with, it's his damn fans (and the young ones in particular, who haven't been exposed to other things and may never be). And fans of drummers in general, they're the ones who start comparing one guy to another which ultimately comes down to the viewer/listeners perspective and preferences.



I didn't mean it as he was complaining, but about a year or so after that first Blink album with him on it came out he gradually started posing with his lips pouting (don't know if it's because of the lip ring or what). To me, it makes him look like a douche. And I've seen interviews with him and he doesn't do that, but you put him in a photo shoot, and the guy
looks like he's pursing his lips.

Yeah I agree with you about the fans. And for some people to compare Travis to other drummers from a different genre of music, who are escpecially known for DRUMMING, not Blink 182, I think is ridiculous.

About weather or not you think Travis looks like a douche, is your opinion lol. I think it may just be his facial posture???
heh.

[182TB@rK3Rfan182]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOfsr9D-KXU

This really says it all.

Like Tommy Lee, he's a good musician, I like what he does and he's a great showman but he's a mediocre drummer. He's also one non-stop, anurism waiting to happen, after the fact heart attack ball of energy. If you look up amphetemine in Webster's it must say Travis somewhere.



I'm a little confused about your video post though???

[DTL_Drummer]

the thing with travis barker is that you have to undrestand that he is in a band with musically challenged ppl and as you might know alot of the blink 182 record and some of the transplants record was based off of his drum parts wich means he made the drums beats first then the other guys did the guitar and bass parts over it. So think about it if travsi started doing liek crazy odd time signatures and sincopated beats that arent straigth forward it would be way to hard for the other guys in his band to make anything up to. also you have to give him credit for what he has done is his genre compared to all the other bands.(example ecorprate marching is his music)

regarding his solo how its not very hard its because the kids who come to the blink show usually arnt like great musicains and mostly dont play music so he has to do a solo that impresses and they will enjoy since they paid 35 dollars to get in.

But he does have formal traning and he can do alot more than what he has donn with his bands.

that is not true. mark and tom from blink 182 would make up every song. travis has only made a couple. like i miss you. which is super easy. mark and tom are very talented for their type of music

[SonOfChaos]

Perhaps this thread is simply too long.

[remoking]

Where's your supporting evidence? Which songs does Tré suck on?


'thats MY opinion i know some people may not like it and some yes but thats what i think you gotta respect me.'

I don't agree with your opinion... but why should I respect? You make no clear argument as to why Travis is so good.

I hate greenday so much...mostly because of their personality. It's like they try to be funny and serious at the same time, and that just doesn't work. They have like a couple OK songs from back in the day, but thats about it.

Anyways, here's an awesome clip from a camera on Travis' drum set from one of his solo's on the current tour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJtszD5cMYs

[benomino324]

Look, Travis Barker is a great drummer, he deserves respect. He may not have double bass skills like The Rev or Portnoy, but he has a certain groove that makes his drumming interesting. Travis isn't lightening fast or anything, but he can play drums well. Enough said don't you think?

[supermacaco]

Hi folks,
I am not a blink fan, I don't like them, but I can't deny Travis is a good drummer.
Don't really know how fast he is, or if he can play double bass, but, lets face it, he got groove and ideas, isn't that enough?
Here you can download some Travis Barker's Drum scores:

http://drumwatch.wordpress.com

Hope you enjoy them.
Bye!

[Drumbob]

Travis Barker is a celebrity. This is because of his reality show, and his publicist. Anyone who is in the public eye I.E: tabloids, TV shows, internet tabloids, pays a publicist to get them into those things. That's the way the business works. A great publicist costs around 10-20 grand a month.

This is a drumming website. Travis Barker is an "OK" rock drummer. I've seen him live a few times, including this past Grammy performance. His time isn't great, his feel is shakey and he hits way too hard. His band is a good band for the kind of music they play. You can't compare these types of musicians with musicians who are really into music. Blink 182 are not 24/7 players who are masterful. They write good punk/rock songs and play their instruments well enough to perform those songs. They're not hired gun musicians that can play many styles. So you really can't judge Travis on the same scale that you would judge Steve Hass, Keith Carlock, or Vinnie Colaiuta on.

As far as drumming goes, Travis will not be remembered for his drumming. His drumming is pretty irrelevant in the world of music. Josh Freese is someone who in that style of music, will be remembered. There are hundreds of thousands of drummers across the world who play the drums better than Travis Barker. That's a fact. He's just a guy that got lucky.

[Buddy9832]

Travis Barker's drumming style is not necessarily my cup of tea. But with that being said, if you break down Travis' drumming to the basics of drumming. I.e. his ability to play chops/rudiments with ease, the speed at which he does so and the accuracy at which he plays them, I would he definitely is above average compared to most of the talented professional drummers.

[Pkaneps]

I'm not impressed with his drumming. Everyone I know who doesn't play drums loves him, and defend him to death everytime I say something like, "Eh, he's ok at best." Which is exactly what I think. I prefer listening to Erik Sandin (NOFX).

Hell, I'd rather listen to Meg White.

[MisterMixelpix]

Overrated by most of his fans.

Underrated by most "musicians".

Entertaining drummer.

[Biscuit]

This not intended to start a war with anyone but i'd rather watch paint dry than watch Travis Barker play drums.

[Pkaneps]

This not intended to start a war with anyone but i'd rather watch paint dry than watch Travis Barker play drums.

That's exactly where I was going with that, but I was afraid to say it.

[Ethan01]

Oh. My. God. At the animosity here... i'm embarrassed by the people here who call themselves "musicians" talking like this about another. Is it mostly out of jealousy, ego, or what...? And I'm a little confused, there was a thread about Meg White where people stood up to her, well, who's going to stand up for Travis? I guess I'll begin...

Travis is an inspiration. His dying mother told him to "do what he likes best", so he decided to make a living being a drummer. His style is exactly what Blink182 needed. Listen to songs like "adam's song", "first date", "the rock show", etc. He's a great recording artist, multiple #1 hits with Blink. When playing live, he get's the energy pumping. His style is fast, furious, punchy. And without him, Blink182 wouldn't be where they are. Soooo.... ok I'm done now =)

[Pkaneps]

Oh. My. God. At the animosity here... i'm embarrassed by the people here who call themselves "musicians" talking like this about another. Is it mostly out of jealousy, ego, or what...? And I'm a little confused, there was a thread about Meg White where people stood up to her, well, who's going to stand up for Travis? I guess I'll begin...

Travis is an inspiration. His dying mother told him to "do what he likes best", so he decided to make a living being a drummer. His style is exactly what Blink182 needed. Listen to songs like "adam's song", "first date", "the rock show", etc. He's a great recording artist, multiple #1 hits with Blink. When playing live, he get's the energy pumping. His style is fast, furious, punchy. And without him, Blink182 wouldn't be where they are. Soooo.... ok I'm done now =)

That's just like..your opinion, man.

I mean, I'm not saying he's this terrible drummer who should never have set foot behind a kit. I'm just saying that I don't like listening to him. I was one of the ones defending Meg White, too. Yeah, it's simple and easy, but I would rather listen to her play than him. Just my opinion.

[Friend]

I didn't like Travis Barker. He just seemed to be a consummate of Caucasian rhythm.
Then I saw a video of him rudimenting (Yes.) it up on a snare.
My opinion stands, but I respect him.
And that's really all this is about isn't it?

[Swiss Matthias]

I really like Travis' playing with Blink. I barely listen to punk rock, but I enjoy Blink thanks to Travis. He's got some cool, fresh ideas. On the recordings he (or all of them) lacks tightness, time and groove though IMO.

[CCdrummer]

I thought his grooves on "adam's song", and "feelin this" were pretty creative.

[Drums101]

In my opinion this guy is the worst most overrated drummer of all time. No groove or feel all chops and he sounds terrible.

[CCdrummer]

In my opinion this guy is the worst most overrated drummer of all time. No groove or feel all chops and he sounds terrible.

You sir, are a troll.

[buehnerm66]

Okay, I read about half of the pages of this discussion and couldn't take it anymore, so please excuse me if I repeat someone else point of view, but someone has to adequately support and explain Travis Barker. I will attempt, and probably fail, to do so.

Technically speaking, he's good. He's not amazing. He's not a human Metal machine gun, he's not a crazy time signature playing jazz virtuoso, he's not a marching corps rudimentalist. But what he does, he does better than most, and in my opinion, he invented it. Pop/punk is a genre defined by bands like Blink 182, Sum 41, etc. Whether you like these bands is of no consequence to the discussion right now. My point is, Blink 182 is defined by Travis. Pop/punk, to a majority of the musician and nonmusician public, is defined by Blink 182. See where I'm going with this?

Vinnie Colaiuta is one of my favorite drummers, as is Dave Weckl. But they sound like each other. Sure there's a noticeable difference in playing styles, but you could imagine swapping Vinnie for Dave and vice versa and the song still working, sounding similar. What would Blink sound like with anyone but Travis? It would not be Blink.

What I'm trying to say is that few other drummers out there have so clearly and distinctly created their own sound that it polarizes the entire drumming community. He has more original style in 4 bars of a Blink 182 song than many drummers have in a whole album. That's why I like him.

[jonescrusher]

Whether you like these bands is of no consequence to the discussion right now. My point is, Blink 182 is defined by Travis. Pop/punk, to a majority of the musician and nonmusician public, is defined by Blink 182. See where I'm going with this?




You have to accept that music is entirely subjective. Whether someone likes the band Blink 182 is entirely relevant to the discussion given, as you say, that Barker defines the band: if you don't like the band, you're not going to dig what he does.

You're clearly a big fan of him and the band and so you hear his playing as a cut above the rest; a big fan of Vinnie or Dave will do the same and dispute your assertion that the two are interchangeable. The producer who hires Vinnie isn't doing so because Dave wasn't available...

[buehnerm66]

.. a big fan of Vinnie or Dave will do the same and dispute your assertion that the two are interchangeable. The producer who hires Vinnie isn't doing so because Dave wasn't available...

I am a big fan of both Vinnie and Dave, probably more so than Travis. What I'm saying is in this day and age Travis is the more all around unique player. He has a persona and style about his playing that is synonymous with him, Blink 182, and pop/punk. Not many other drummers, with the exception of John Bonham and others, have so influencedm or daresay created, a genre.

When you think pop/punk, you think Travis.

[Ian Williams]

Regarding Travis, I respect the fact that He is a drummer and does the job, but there is something on his playing style that does not catch me, for some reason...

When I think of punk, it comes to my mind: Paul Cook - The Sex Pistols, Paul Headon - The Clash, Darren H.Peligro - Dead Kennedys.

[buehnerm66]

I may be splitting hairs here, but I feel there is a definitive difference between punk and pop/punk. Travis is pop/punk. Anyone agree? Or should I just shut up?

[Pocket-full-of-gold]

I may be splitting hairs here, but I feel there is a definitive difference between punk and pop/punk. Travis is pop/punk. Anyone agree? Or should I just shut up?

Works for me. I not a huge Blink fan by any measure, but what I've heard, I wouldn't neccessarily define as "punk" in the same vein as the Pistols, Clash, Dammned, Black Flag et al. Pop punk seems fitting I guess. But it sells well and keeps them all employed, so hats off to the lot of them.

As for TB, he does what he does well. That's enough for me. I couldn't care less if he is better/worse/on level pegging to the bloke next to him. He is the "best" Travis Barker there is.....what more can he do?.....what more should he have to do?

[wy yung]

I believe Travis Barker is a fine drummer. I came upon his playing through teaching when students would ask me to teach them his grooves. What I learned was that Travis has a wonderful knack of incorporating elements of ethnic rhythm into his pop/rock grooves. As a teacher I found this very beneficial because it led to discussions with students as to where a rhythm came from. I have the Blink 182 book and find it very useful in my teaching. A teacher must be hip to what is happening today so I listen with interest to what Travis does.

I see no real reason why many people bag him out. Often it seems petty. Perhaps born of jealousy. It is true he is no Buddy Rich, but then who is? The fact remains that Travis Barker plays well, inspires legions of new drummers and does what he does very well. He may be the most successful drummer since Ringo at bringing people to drumming. That is something to be proud of. And it is something to be respected.

I tip my hat to Travis Barker.

[ace76543]

I may be splitting hairs here, but I feel there is a definitive difference between punk and pop/punk. Travis is pop/punk. Anyone agree? Or should I just shut up?

You're right. Punk is anti institution and has quick handed drummers full of licks. Pop/punk is defined by travis barker. end of story.

[Swiss Matthias]

Vinnie Colaiuta is one of my favorite drummers, as is Dave Weckl. But they sound like each other. Sure there's a noticeable difference in playing styles, but you could imagine swapping Vinnie for Dave and vice versa and the song still working, sounding similar.

I strongly disagree.

[Swiss Matthias]

I believe Travis Barker is a fine drummer. I came upon his playing through teaching when students would ask me to teach them his grooves. What I learned was that Travis has a wonderful knack of incorporating elements of ethnic rhythm into his pop/rock grooves. As a teacher I found this very beneficial because it led to discussions with students as to where a rhythm came from. I have the Blink 182 book and find it very useful in my teaching. A teacher must be hip to what is happening today so I listen with interest to what Travis does.

I see no real reason why many people bag him out. Often it seems petty. Perhaps born of jealousy. It is true he is no Buddy Rich, but then who is? The fact remains that Travis Barker plays well, inspires legions of new drummers and does what he does very well. He may be the most successful drummer since Ringo at bringing people to drumming. That is something to be proud of. And it is something to be respected.

I tip my hat to Travis Barker.

Good post, +1 from me.

[Funky Crêpe]

Good post, +1 from me.

yeah, no matter what you think of his drumming or who he is influencing, he is influencing. I think people have beef with him because many guys could grow up learning his stuff, and when they are in their 20's realise what help learning jazz or latin would have had. But amidst all of these people, you are sure to have you're gems, fair play to the guy

[Markie]

All you guys tries to say that he isn't that great. Of course not, there are better drummers.
But if you look closer to the famous drummers like Travis Barker, Will Champion, Joey Jordison or Lars Ulrich, they have got famous because their bands are famous. All other excellent drummers don't play in sucher famous bands so they aren't as famous.

[ENRICO]

he is not my favourite drummer but he's made a big contribution to punk music. he's very hard working, never talks trash about anybody, he is not arrogant at all. he only does what he loves to do and it's very successful.

I just don't get why there so many people talking trash about him, is not his fault that some idiots say that he is the best drummer ever

[Pocket-full-of-gold]

Who hates him, other than dimwitted youtube posters? I have no issue with TB....not my fav. but I like what I've heard.

Have you read this? http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2187

There's enough sensible people here who can give a balanced appraisal of Travis' playing.

[zambizzi]

I've never seen anyone say they HATE him, here. I don't hate him. I don't hate anyone. I don't particularly like Travis Barker's playing. If he inspires you...great! We're all individuals with individual tastes.

[Red Menace]

I actually like Travis Barker, I don't really care for Blink 182 though, Pop-punk's not really my thing.

[GRUNTERSDAD]

I can honestly say I have never heard him play. Why you may ask? Because I am not into Punk music. There are plenty of good drummers out there in many genres but I can't get past the music. all the metal and death metal etc etc etc. Play me a nice melody without screaming into the mic and I may listen. Now you know why.

[caddywumpus]

No hate for the guy here, either...

Now, as for the music he plays, it's not my favorite.

[RollingStone000]

Three reasons why I'm not a fan (I don't hate him either):

1: The fanboys/girls (my biggest hangup).
2: He gives more of an effort looking like he plays drums, than actually playing drums.
3: Every time I see a pic of him he's always pouting his bottom lip. Can't stand that all.

But otherwise, the cat can play. He can hold down a groove and keep time.

[harryconway]

Who hates him, other than dimwitted youtube posters?

Yes indeed. Certainly can't fault the cat for being successful. And as for Youtube, there's enough hate there to blow up the world 10 times (at least) over.

[MikeM]

I like the way he plays and approaches drumming quite a bit. I love his enthusiasm. Unfortunately, Blink 182 has been pretty hard for me to take as a band - that saccharine-sweet singer is more grating to me than cookie monster vocals.

[Drums&Beer]

I officially don't hate TB. I officially do not like Blink 182, and I hate to think that there's people out there that think they're punk rock. The Minutemen, Minor Threat, the Dead Milkmen, The Stooges, Television, Richard Hell and the Voidoids, Devo, Cramps, The Clash, & the Ramones and all the other greats that you'd never or rarely hear on the radio. Those are bands that I think of when I think of punk rock. No one debates whether TB can play. He keeps good time, is a very effective showman but for me that's a moot point because I'd never buy a Blink album. In my mind Travis Barker is this generation's Tommy Lee.

[jungle]

2: He gives more of an effort looking like he plays drums, than actually playing drums

true:) but i like him do

[onemic]

I don't think all the haters "hate" him so much as they hate his blind legion of fans. Most of his fans that say he's the greatest drummer ever don't even know of other drummers besides him, they simply like him because he's TB. He's truly this generations Tommy Lee.

[andSometimesY]

Yeah, I'd have to agree with the majority here. I don't hate him, just the ignorant following that surrounds him ( I don't even "hate" them per se). He's a creative guy for punk rock, a good showman, and he has some endurance. Can't fault him for that. I do think he is a little bit arrogant, though. I've seen a couple youtube videos that imply arrogance but I can't say for sure.

My opinion: Good drummer, but certainly not the best or one of the technical virtuosos.

[diegobxr]

Enrico, for quite some time I've been asking myself the same thing..

I like Blink 182 a lot, I grew up listening to their albums, and I think that Travis is a great drummer. He has a lot of energy and makes a lot of non-drummers say "whoa, look at the drummer".. I think that's cool.

Now, years later I am listening to Rush, Billy Cobham, Buddy Rich.. No doubt they're better drummers, but IMO that's not a reason to bash on TB.

Anyway.. unfortunately there's a lot of envy out there.

[DSCRAPRE]

Simply put people hate Travis Barker because he's popular.

I hate Travis Barker because he's popular. That and the double handed cymbal bashing.

By "popular" I mean that so many people think that he's the god of drums because his overall mediocre skills are largely exaggerated by the way he behaves while playing. For example, you go on to almost any Buddy Rich video and you'll see them. People saying, "best drumr evr? no way, this fag would get his gay ass pwnd by Travis Barker!!!!1!!!". So you go to one of Barker's videos and see him having a seizure while playing eighths on his crashes, like it's the hardest thing in the world to do. Then you look at the comments and it's just page after page of people denouncing any religion they may have previously had and declaring Travis Barker their only lord and savior.

Point is, if he wasn't popular, than people would have no reason to hate him. When he's shoved in your face every single time you try to do anything drumming related on the web, however, that's another story.

That felt good.

EDIT: I'm not saying any of this as an attempt to suggest that I'm personally better than Mr. Barker, I'm not.

[alparrott]

I don't hate Travis Barker. I just don't care about him all that much. No more than I hate Joey Jordison or Meg White.

Ironically, all of them play on at least one song on my iPod playlist, and those are decent songs, and I like them.

[zambizzi]

I'll add another observation...

I've been judging the local GC Drum Off this year and I'd say that at least 2 out of 3 drummers competing, emulate both his look and his style. He obviously inspires a lot of kids and is an influence. However, all 3 judges, all different age ranges and personalities, agree that this has been a drag to watch. These guys all play very much the same and it's pretty boring...at least for a drum competition. The few that have stood out and done their own thing have been the consistent winners.

[Ian Williams]

There are many dislikers not haters, which is fine. The word - dislike - fits much better, if you want to take it as an personal issue with T.B....then hate him.

[Biscuit]

I don't hate the guy either. I just get tired of seeing his face all over everything that has to do with drums. Does Zildjian not have anybody else on their artist roster to market their product other than Barker? You pick up a drum mag. and somewhere in the mag. will be Barker. Then i get on Youtube to see what other drummers are doing and more than half of them are setting up their kits like him and trying to do their best Barker impression. It just gets very old.

As i said i don't hate the guy and he has certainly earned what he has. From what i understand he is a great dad and husband and is obviousely hard working. Drum wise i would say he is better than some but not as good as most. Blink has some songs that i like but not enough to say that i'm a fan of the band. I guess i'm just tired of seeing the guys' face plasterd all over everything and his fans ( what i like to call "Travis Nation") is very annoying.

[double_G]

do not hate the guy. i think he is a great drummer w/ some great chops, cool ideas that mesh great w/ punk, rap, DJ scratching & other break-beat type stuff. the only critical thing i can say is that he needs to give up smoking pot & looking obviously stoned in 1/2 the print ads he is in.

i do hate his troll / fans that post on youtube.com. find any popular / hi-ranked video of Vinnie, Bonham, Peart, etc. at least one of the comments will be "this drummer sucks compared to TB" and so forth as a flame war starts for no reason.

[thedrumninja]

Success always polarizes opinion.

You get all out lovers and of course all out haters who fuel
each others love/hate for the person in question with there
extreme views, opinions and arguments. The cycle
feeds itself!

You often find the man himself is just getting on with business
and doesn't give two hoots about the whole thing.

Thankfully we're a worldly and intelligent bunch here at drummerworld
and are able to notice the individuals (be it TB, Ringo Starr or any other
drummer for that matter) contribution to music! ;-)

[Skulmoski]

I can honestly say I have never heard him play. Why you may ask? Because I am not into Punk music. There are plenty of good drummers out there in many genres but I can't get past the music. all the metal and death metal etc etc etc. Play me a nice melody without screaming into the mic and I may listen. Now you know why.

I hear ya. Good drummer but the music that does not speak to me. Will his music age the way other classic bands have aged? I don't know.

GJS

[Pachikara-Tharakan]

I can honestly say I have never heard him play. Why you may ask? Because I am not into Punk music. There are plenty of good drummers out there in many genres but I can't get past the music. all the metal and death metal etc etc etc. Play me a nice melody without screaming into the mic and I may listen. Now you know why.

same here, one exception Ronnie James Dio, nice melody though
eg: Rainbow Eyes from Rainbow's Long Live Rock n roll- thankfully no drums in that song :)

[Swiss Matthias]

I actually like Travis' playing with Blink 182. I'm not into punk or pop-punk, but I think he did some very creative stuff with them. I wouldn't necessarily think he's got too great time though.
that saccharine-sweet singer is more grating to me than cookie monster vocals.
Honestly, I always think all those punk singers sound exactly the same, don't they? As if either they're all one and the same guy, or they try to clone each other's voices...!
Simply put people hate Travis Barker because he's popular.
That's quite a silly thing to do. I don't think Travis (or most of the popular drummers for that matter) deserve to be hated for their popularity, because they simply aren't able to help it. It's not them claiming they're the best, it's their fanboys.
Mike Portnoy comes to mind: I once read in an interview answering the question what instrument he played: Piano, Bass, Guitar and Drums (I believe), but none of them really good (including drums!!!) It's not a quote but it must have been something like that. How humble, and how opposite to what many fanboys of his are claiming all the time and all over youtube!

[Swiss Matthias]

You know, being great isn't really anything the same as being popular. And vice versa. The most popular drummer isn't necessarily the best. Except if you define "greatness" by popularity. Which is of course one way to go.

[Fuzrock]

In my mind Travis Barker is this generation's Tommy Lee.

That's totally true!

[Pkaneps]

At some point I realized that I like all drummers just because they're drummers. I'm not a huge fan personally of Travis, but I can respect what he does.

[DSCRAPRE]

Swiss,

When I wrote that, I had this feeling that I should have changed it. I don't hate him as a person, his idiotic fanboys just tainted me on him. I can't stand the sight of him because I mentally project all of the moronic things that those tube trolls say onto him. I know it's not fair, but it's just a knee-jerk reaction type of thing. I'm just disgusted by him because he is everything that the uninformed bigmouths worship. Plus I always thought he looked like a world class tosser. Of course there is always the double handed cymbal bashing, convulsions, perpetual shirtlessness, and general empty showboating to look down upon.

On the other hand I was very impressed with his marching snare solo............until I saw about 30 guys in Blast Drum Corps totally blow him out of the water, simultaneously.

I hope I seem (slightly) more sane now.

[GRUNTERSDAD]

I wish that todays teens or young people would get rid of two words used so often in their vocabulary that they almost become meaningless. First, any type of negative criticism is labeled HATE. Lose it. Secondly, anything not liked is GAY. Lose it. Expand your vocabulary to use words that truly convey what you mean and more people may pay attention.

[Chromium]

As some here have said he is certainly a humble man and quite devoted to his kids. Interestingly he has recently expressed a passion for Jazz. His own father brought him up to appreciate lots of different musical genres from an early age and exposed him to a wide range of recorded materials and musical experiences.

He said in an interview recently that when he retires, that he would like nothing more than to concentrate on playing only Jazz. His other passion is for his collection of classic Cadillacs.

[truekebabpower]

im a teenager...and I meet a drummer my age, finally some to have 12-hour talks about drums
so I ask him: whos your favourite drummer ? (please not travis barker, please not travis barker...)

its travis barker

DOH!!


no, but seriously, his solos are really bad, yes its blink, but he can switch bands anytime he wants, and his style looks really stiff and uncofortable (if it works for him, i would have broken my spine by now), theres no flow Id say, and his kit is so small...

kind of feel sorry for him though, he might be one of the most famous drummers around, but hes also one of the most hated

[Pkaneps]

no, but seriously, his solos are really bad, yes its blink, but he can switch bands anytime he wants, and his style looks really stiff and uncofortable (if it works for him, i would have broken my spine by now), theres no flow Id say, and his kit is so small...

I NEVER thought I'd see myself defending him, but here I am. I always thought that he looked really cool playing the way he does. It gets people's attention, which is why he's so famous. It's not really ergonomic, but it's horses for courses. He doesn't really groove as well as most of the drummers I like, but it's fine for that music. And having a small kit doesn't make you a bad drummer, just like having a big kit doesn't make you a good one.

[DSCRAPRE]

I was heavily involved in acting in high school. During that time I hosted my school's talent show, introducing the acts and other assorted MC shtick (see avatar picture). Well, there were several bands playing that night and, just getting into drumming myself, I talked to the drummers a bit. They all seemed to really like this Travis Barker fellow (I hadn't yet heard of him at the time). So the first band went up and played. The drummer (wearing the requisite sideways hat and blazed facial expression) played WAY over everything, he was just pounding the crap out of the drums. All you could hear was him, that was it. This continued through the whole show. So I go home and look up Travis barker on You Tube. It all made sense. One of several reasons why I can't stand Travis Barker. I know it's not his fault and I don't hold it against him personally.

I don't hate Travis Barker, I just don't think that he deserves to be worshiped.

[aedrummin4life]

When I first started playing Travis Barker and Tre Cool were my biggest influences. I think Travis Baker is extremley creative and very influential. I think the reason he is "hated" by so many is because people who dont even play drums know who he is, therefore, he has a lot more popularity over..steve gadd...etc. I also think that people belive that he has the mind set that he is better than everyone else when his pesonality is quite the opposite. Personally I think he is a fantastic drummer on the rock/punk seen.

[genericdrummingusername]

I wish that todays teens or young people would get rid of two words used so often in their vocabulary that they almost become meaningless. First, any type of negative criticism is labeled HATE. Lose it. Secondly, anything not liked is GAY. Lose it. Expand your vocabulary to use words that truly convey what you mean and more people may pay attention.

I know we have our differences, but as a teenager I must say that that's spot-on.

[Biscuit]

I wish that todays teens or young people would get rid of two words used so often in their vocabulary that they almost become meaningless. First, any type of negative criticism is labeled HATE. Lose it. Secondly, anything not liked is GAY. Lose it. Expand your vocabulary to use words that truly convey what you mean and more people may pay attention.

Amen to that Gruntersdad!!

[mattsmith]

I don't hate him either. As many have said here he supposedly has a nice guy reputation.

Yeah it's the issues about the psychotic youtube fanboys and an over zealous press machine that supply him any negativity he might experience. The fanboys he can't help...the press agent he can control since his people are the ones paying for all that. So yes it's fair to say that he's partially responsible for his less than favorable rep with a small segment of the drumming community, who not coincidentally also comprise largely of fanboys representing heroes of sometimes equally suspicious iconic status.

So I guess the bigger question should be why should anyone care?

I guess with me /and again this has little to do with Barker himself/ are how all these people cite as an attribute his supposed luring a generation of young people to drums as if the drums themselves weren't enough of a calling card.

See, I think the last several decades have always had this magnet drummer who does this and at least in my mind the bar seems like its probably different than before.

In the 30s and much of the 40s it was Krupa playing the role as Travis...a first class musician on all counts.

The late 50s saw Morello assuming a lot of this and in the 60s Buddy Rich seems to have been the drumming god entry point for newbies wanting to be drummers. Now notice how I didn't say drummers wanting to be integrated into a popular / cool band. So to me Ringo, Moon, and Baker contributions represent a different dynamic.

Steve Gadd and Bonham's legacy seemed to be performing some of this role during much of the 70s...no doubt about the basics there.

Then I think we had a different bar.

Lee in the eighties. Did anyone see that reality show a couple of years back where he almost didn't make the University of Nebraska drumline as a quad player of all things.

Tre Cool/Grohl in the nineties...

Finally Barker.

So no offense, but isn't that a more disappointing standard for which to aspire? And in all honesty, wouldn't a clear headed and rational person like Travis Barker say the same thing?

[mhdweston]

What i have found out regarding this subject, is that not many people actually hate him per say. What they, including myself, hate is the fan boys that go on YouTube, find a video of Steve Gadd, Vinnie, Buddy, or any GREAT drummer, and say "He sucks, Travis FTW" or some silly ignorant comment like that..

I personally think hes a great drummer, but in the great wise words of "The 40 year old Virgin"..

"They are putting the p@#$y on a pedestal.." The p%$#y being Travis Barker..

btw i aint calling TB one, Im just saying they idolize him for the wrong reasons..

[jamest]

The guy is a big figure in today's pop culture that's why he gets so much attention as a drummer. He's good, but there are soooooooo many other drummers today who are better. They just don't get all the attention like he does 'cos they're not pop celebs.
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[cavica]

I wish that todays teens or young people would get rid of two words used so often in their vocabulary that they almost become meaningless. First, any type of negative criticism is labeled HATE. Lose it. Secondly, anything not liked is GAY. Lose it. Expand your vocabulary to use words that truly convey what you mean and more people may pay attention.

Agreed agreed agreed! These two words are so overused, there meaning has become basically pointless...

As for Travis, he has a large fan base and is very good at what he does. But arguing the fact that he is the best drumming isn't really a good thing to discuss, as really, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Also, in reality, it is impossible to name one drummer as the best, because each person in unique in there own style and how they express themselves with music.

[dazzlestar]

It annoys me when I ask my non-drummer friends who they think the best drummer in the world is, and they come out with Travis Barker. He is an OK drummer, but no way near as the technical greats such as Jojo Mayer and Johnny Rabb!!! His popularity makes people think he's totally awesome, but its just the wrong way of looking at it. :(

[drums_n_surf]

What i have found out regarding this subject, is that not many people actually hate him per say. What they, including myself, hate is the fan boys that go on YouTube, find a video of Steve Gadd, Vinnie, Buddy, or any GREAT drummer, and say "He sucks, Travis FTW" or some silly ignorant comment like that..

I personally think hes a great drummer, but in the great wise words of "The 40 year old Virgin"..

"They are putting the p@#$y on a pedestal.." The p%$#y being Travis Barker..

btw i aint calling TB one, Im just saying they idolize him for the wrong reasons..

Couldn't have put it better myself. Also, its not only the fanboys, its the general public. Most non-musicians, who have no clue on drumming, when the find out i play the drums, ask: "oh have you heard travis barker, he's amazing". I then tell them that i think he's a good drummer but nothing special, and show them a couple of clips of Gadd, Buddy Rich, Bonham or Jojo Mayer, and only then do they realise how misinformed they were.

[Pocket-full-of-gold]

I was at a mates this past weekend and his 9 year old daughter was telling me what a great drummer Justin Beiber was. I showed her the Vinnie/Gadd/Weckl vid from the Buddy memorial concert. I wasn't at all surprised when it didn't convince her.

Same argument.......different generation.

Unfortunately, this isn't going to end with Travis or Joey Jordison. We'll be getting the same giggle in 20 years time too, I assure you.

[drums_n_surf]

I was at a mates this past weekend and his 9 year old daughter was telling me what a great drummer Justin Beiber was.

Surely you mean Travis Barker. Although the same could be said about Beiber when it comes to the music industry. That Vinnie/Gadd/Weckl video is absolutely amazing, it's a real shame when the average person cannot appreciate such things but is impressed by musicians like travis barker, beiber and nearly every other top40 pop sensation.

[DSCRAPRE]

Surely you mean Travis Barker.

Not necessarily. Bieber also plays, kinda.

[Pocket-full-of-gold]

Surely you mean Travis Barker.

I wish I did mate.....I'm not nearly as offended by Travis as some of our drumming fraternity brothers are.

No, I definitely meant Justin Bieber: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcVgrfjyjhQ

I just thought it was a funny connection. Doesn't matter what generation, there will always be a tendency to overstate mediocrity.

[drums_n_surf]

I wish I did mate.....I'm not nearly as offended by Travis as some of our drumming fraternity brothers are.

No, I definitely meant Justin Bieber: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcVgrfjyjhQ

I just thought it was a funny connection. Doesn't matter what generation, there will always be a tendency to overstate mediocrity.

Wow, that video made me laugh, as did some of the comments. Did not know Beiber (kind of) plays the drums.

I agree with you that there will always be a tendency to overstate mediocrity, but has it always been to the extent that it is now? With the internet, anybody can put up a video or a recording, and therefore alot of talent gets hidden amongst all the crap. The problem with today is that all of these labels, magazines and companies heavily promote artists such as Beiber and Barker because their fan base will buy absouletly everything and anything with his name on it. It was the same thing with the Pitch Black cymbals, terrible cymbal but got heavy promotion with Jordison and was the only reason they were reasonably successful in terms of sales. Has this always been the case, or am i just too young to know what happened in past generations haha.

[DSCRAPRE]

Now, Justin Bieber never bugged me too much. He was really lucky and got launched into stardom without the help of Disney's Genetic Child Star programming, for which I respect him. He's a teen idol though, nothing more, nothing less.

But, Please Mr. Beiber, play drums at home, wood shed, learn more than just triplets and then maybe start playing solos.

They only cheer because it's you.

[Music is Awesome]

I don't "hate" TB I just hate the fact that most people always connect popularity with ability when the two are almost always seperate from each other.

I also hate fanboys who have to go troll amd say that Joey or Travis are the best drummers ever when the two of them are not even close.

BTW I love Joey and he is one of the main reasons I started playing drum set.

And can Justin Bieber just go away already so the new annoying Disney sensation can appear.

[Pocket-full-of-gold]

And can Justin Bieber just go away already so the new annoying Disney sensation can appear.

lol......ever tried arguing that point with a 9 year old? :-)

[DSCRAPRE]

And can Justin Bieber just go away already so the new annoying Disney sensation can appear.

Justin Beiber isn't with Disney and his popularity completely toppled the Jonas Brothers. That's the one thing that I respect him for.

Sorry to help this thread get so far off topic.

[Music is Awesome]

Justin Beiber isn't with Disney and his popularity completely toppled the Jonas Brothers. That's the one thing that I respect him for.

lol. yeah i know he's not with disney its just the generic think to say about the cookie cutter pop stars that little children,mainly girls, adore.

[Bradastronaut]

Just my opinions on travis barker here...
Good drummer i think, but doesnt deserve the praise he gets i reckon, hes a decent punk drummer from what ive saw.
But come on, even for a punk drummer hes nowhere near the best, brooks wackerman could teach him a thing or two ;)

I like him personally, i just cant stand the fans who's youtube names are TRAVIS4LYF and comment on ever buddy rich video saying how much buddy sucks compared to travis. Travis would laugh in their face if he heard them say that though!

[DrumsTheWord]

I feel that Travis Barker receives a lot more attention than most because he looks so cool behind the drums. I mean, the guy has talent but it's because he makes it look so easy and fun that he gets most of his praise.

Saying that though, I've just recently recorded and uploaded video drum lessons for three different Blink 182 songs, have you tried playing what he does?! Man, Travis can play!

Rob

[tamadrm]

Well...where to start.I think Travis really should start listening more to the greats and a little less to his hype.Dynamics ,touch,feel,and swing are not really in his toolkit.He probably has the talent to be a good drummer instead of just adequete for just a single style of music.
Sorry Travis fans ..he really dosen't own anybody.One trick pony who repeats all he knows every 5 minutes of playing time.
Steve B

[remoking]

The guy is OBVIOUSLY doing something right. Travis is the perfect example of someone who has worked hard, achieved his personal goals, and has been the best he can be...and getting better. Not once have I heard a remark from Travis about him thinking that he is a drum god, or thinks he is the best drummer ever. In my opinion, to think that he gets too much credit is just being plain jealous. Like I said, he's obviously doing something right.

Oh, but being in the biggest modern-day punk-rock band does draw an exquisite amount of attention to the drummer. Collaborating with some of the biggest names in hip-hop also exposes him to many people who otherwise would probably never hear of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzTv9S6qHuA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJtszD5cMYs&feature=related

[Jesses]

I think people aren't paying so much attention when they say TB is all speed and nothing else. I hate fast punk-poppy drumming because it's boring and sounds pretty unmusical to me on its own, but there is definitely a bit of personality with his playing in B182 that deserves recognition. Also, the dude doesn't carry himself in some superior way, he seems pretty level-headed. He just happens to be massively appealing to people who are excited by what he plays, I don't think he himself is necessarily a gimmick. This is coming from someone who has absolutely no interest in Blink 182-ish drumming.

[wy yung]

Am I right in thinking the general public has known three drummers over time. Gene Krupa. Ringo Star. And now Travis Barker?

[Swiss Matthias]

I think Buddy Rich and Phil Collins are well known from the public as well.

[wy yung]

I think Buddy Rich and Phil Collins are well known from the public as well.

Buddy Rich, no. Not even during his lifetime. I spoke to Daniel Glass about this and he was emphatic.

Phil is hardly known as a drummer. Most people ask me these days about the child abuse he suffered that led to Face Value. I answer, No. The album is about his first divorce. If they know him at all, it is as a singer. If not as a singer, as a victim of a fictional attack.

[mrmike]

Gene Krupa at the height of his popularity was not only the best known drummer but was the biggest star in America.

[wy yung]

Gene Krupa at the height of his popularity was not only the best known drummer but was the biggest star in America.

Which pissed off Benny Goodman no end.

(My mother loved him and always told me of his brown wavy hair)

[darkdrumR]

One of my favorite drummers growing up was Pete Finestone of bad religion. The stuff he played on against the grain amazed me. I always wondered tho... does he / did he use a double bass pedal?

[Hellwyck]

Phil is hardly known as a drummer.
In your world maybe... In reallife, he's known as a drummer, a member of Genesis and a dodgy actor

[beatsMcGee]

I think people aren't paying so much attention when they say TB is all speed and nothing else. I hate fast punk-poppy drumming because it's boring and sounds pretty unmusical to me on its own, but there is definitely a bit of personality with his playing in B182 that deserves recognition. Also, the dude doesn't carry himself in some superior way, he seems pretty level-headed. He just happens to be massively appealing to people who are excited by what he plays, I don't think he himself is necessarily a gimmick. This is coming from someone who has absolutely no interest in Blink 182-ish drumming.

well said. Its a very common occurrence for fans to completely overstate someone they admire.

[RSapeta92]

Travis Barker may not have the craziest chops, but you must take into consideration what genre he is playing. In Blink, it would be very easy for someone to make the most simple of punk beats (think quarter notes on the hats, and a double on bass before snare hits on 2 and 4); but Travis has made some great creative stuff. You may bash on him for how he looks, how his set up is (imo, its awesome when you can play a simple set up and keep everything intricate and interesting), or what you think you have seen of him in the media, but the guy has brought a technical level of drumming to a genre where mediocrity is common. The guy may not have the coolest solos, and he may like to bang his drums pretty roughly (hey, uh...wasnt bohnam famous for hitting hard?.....hmmm), but he certainly deserves credit.

And also, how many of these ignorant, hateful comments aren't simply fueled but drummers who put themselves above TB but never got far in the music business? hmmmm.....

[Swiss Matthias]

Travis Barker may not have the craziest chops, but you must take into consideration what genre he is playing. In Blink, it would be very easy for someone to make the most simple of punk beats (think quarter notes on the hats, and a double on bass before snare hits on 2 and 4); but Travis has made some great creative stuff. You may bash on him for how he looks, how his set up is (imo, its awesome when you can play a simple set up and keep everything intricate and interesting), or what you think you have seen of him in the media, but the guy has brought a technical level of drumming to a genre where mediocrity is common. The guy may not have the coolest solos, and he may like to bang his drums pretty roughly (hey, uh...wasnt bohnam famous for hitting hard?.....hmmm), but he certainly deserves credit.
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[Fox622003]

He does have very decent hand technique (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqg5POfjXyY), though. I'm not a fan of his manerisms while playing drums, but I'm sure there's a lot of professional drummers with much less even looking hands.


Fox.

[Pocket-full-of-gold]

this so called drummer>travis barker, and all the grunge and heavy metal drummers could not even carry john bonham's jock strap!!!!!

Why would you want to carry John Bonhams jock strap? I mean, you've heard all the sordid tales right? Read all the stories?? Believe me, that a jock you definitely wouldn't want to strap. I suggest you head out and strap someone else's jock my friend, it's bound to be healthier in the long run.

Best leave Bonzo's strap where it currently lies..........6 foot under with his jock.

I have a spare strap for your own jock though if you'd like it. PM me if you're interested. As the old saying goes, a strapped jock is a happy jock.

[Hellwyck]

this so called drummer>travis barker, and all the grunge and heavy metal drummers could not even carry john bonham's jock strap!!!!!

That's a little bit closed minded isn't it?

1. Travis isn't "grunge" or metal, he's a drummer in 200+ punk bands and a hip hop act.
2. A lot of metal and "grunge" drummers took a lot from John Bonham - Me included.

[Fishbones]

I'm technically a teenager but I honestly have never loved Travis Baker. I guess I could say I respect some of his playing, but I would not consider myself a fan. I've liked drummers like Clyde Stubblefield, Al Jackson Jr., and Bernard Purdie from the start.

I just see no real appeal in his playing. And I'm pretty sure he's always baked.

But you guys are right - true punk is the Clash, Ramones, Stooges, Damned, Dead Kennedies....

[daredrummer]

Am I right in thinking the general public has known three drummers over time. Gene Krupa. Ringo Star. And now Travis Barker?

That sounds about right.
A couple others I might add (not as much as those though) are Phil Collins, John Bonham, Dave Grohl, and (unfortunately) Joey Jordison.

[Pocket-full-of-gold]

But you guys are right - true punk is the Clash, Ramones, Stooges, Damned, Dead Kennedies....

What?? No Sex Pistols???

I need a bottle of Jack, a few asprins and a good lie down to recover from this shock!!

[Hellwyck]

What?? No Sex Pistols???

I need a bottle of Jack, a few asprins and a good lie down to recover from this shock!!
Sex Pistols were more or less put together by Malcolm Mclaren...
and they were sh*t

Am I right in thinking the general public has known three drummers over time. Gene Krupa. Ringo Star. And now Travis Barker?
The General Public won't know who Gene Krupa is unless they're fans.
They won't know Travis unless they're 12 year old Blink fans
and they won't know Ringo unless they watched Thomas The Tank Engine in the early '90's

[Fishbones]

What?? No Sex Pistols???

I need a bottle of Jack, a few asprins and a good lie down to recover from this shock!!

Oh no! How could I have have forgotten!

Alright lemme add in the Sex Pistols, Bad Brains, and Buzzcocks. Hope I didn't shock anyone with this :)

[Hellwyck]

Buzzcocks.
Buzzcocks were influrntial in the forming of what's known as "punk"
and they're from my hometown of Manchester!

[Fishbones]

Sex Pistols were more or less put together by Malcolm Mclaren...
and they were sh*t


It's not about musicianship or actual talent -- It's about the punk rock ethos that the Sex Pistols fully embodied.

[Hellwyck]

It's not about musicianship or actual talent -- It's about the punk rock ethos that the Sex Pistols fully embodied.
Thanks for telling a 33 year old fan of punk what the scene embodied - Needed that.


The pistols couldn't play, they taught a legion of fans that anyone could have their say without knowing anything about music - this info is true.

They were also dogsh*t (this is true), they were only "good" cos they were angry and people had nothing else to compare to until the Clash and Sham 69 came to town.

[Fishbones]

Sex Pistols were more or less put together by Malcolm Mclaren...
and they were sh*t




Thanks for telling a 33 year old fan of punk what the scene embodied - Needed that.


Hey I'm sorry Hellwyck - I honestly thought you were just ripping on the Pistols. I realize now you were just saying their musical talent was shit. I guess I interpreted it wrong. I wasn't intentionally trying to sound condescending talking about how the sex pistols' attitude was more important than the actual playing itself. Sometimes specific vocal inflections and implied emotions are hard to convey over the Internet. :)

No hard feelings, right?

[Pocket-full-of-gold]

and they were sh*t


I wholeheartedly disagree. I think they were better than even they gave themselves credit for.


and they won't know Ringo unless they watched Thomas The Tank Engine in the early '90's

Now I really need that bottle, apsrins and a lie down!! :-)

Even my non-musical friends all know that Ringo had an established career drumming with some little outfit from Liverpool........long before he ever teamed up with the Fat Controller for a good bout of shunting.

[remoking]

Been forever since I've posted on these forums. Thought I would shed some light on on the Travis Barker thread...Here's a couple recent videos of Travis. Pretty damn good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RWkwOFED1NA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDqK6pnRXX0&feature=player_embedded

[Swiss Matthias]

I almost can't get over this redickuloussly high high-hat, and his tiny and fully painted
upper body, lol!

But the playing is cool. Not my cup of tea musically, but he has a lot of energy, and he's
right on the spot.

[Hellwyck]

I wholeheartedly disagree. I think they were better than even they gave themselves credit for.
Nope, they were credited as the first pink band for their attitude and not much else.
The only member of the band who could actually play was Steve Jones.

Now I really need that bottle, apsrins and a lie down!! :-)

Even my non-musical friends all know that Ringo had an established career drumming with some little outfit from Liverpool........long before he ever teamed up with the Fat Controller for a good bout of shunting.
I was talking about the kids who know Travis Barker, They wouldn't know Ringo as a drummer if he told them himself holding a picture up of him in the Beatles.

[dtmbars]

Travis Barker is GOD he is an AMAZING drummer most of the people just like him because they listen to blink 182 but its not that i love blink 182 they are my gods but i admire travis for lots of things. he´s got style, he is fast, he knows how to make rythyms with just a little guitar riff or 2 wordss from a song HE IS THA MAN

Agreed. I started liking Travis because of Blink 182 but I don't like him only because of blink 182.

I don't care about ANYTHING in a drummer over being unique, and when travis plays, you know it is travis playing. I could pick out a drum beat of his from a mile away. They're all so unique and amazing sounding.

[Swiss Matthias]

Nope, they were credited as the first pink band for their attitude
What's a pink band?

[cobamnator]

Wow, alot of views / replys. One things for sho', he's one of the most famous drummers ever...

[KarlCrafton]

Buzzcocks were influrntial in the forming of what's known as "punk"
and they're from my hometown of Manchester!

Here's some Buzzcocks for a Friday...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EdQuBnh3Uk

As for the Pistols....Steve Jones and Paul Cook could play.
Jones has a great tone on NMTB, and a great tone with Neurotic Outsiders as well.
Johnny Rotten was a great "entertainer" for sheer stupidity, and making people crazy.
I liked the PIL album with Steve Vai playing on it.

[JesusMySavior]

I tell you what. Try playing along to Enema of The State and you'll soon see (most of you) are outmatched! I never really appreciated blink until I decided to pick up that album.

Fantastic stuff, I wish I could learn it, (but am in the process of learning it)!

[brycephinn]

In my opinion Travis Barker is great. I doubt he is the best drummer of all time. Do you think Travis Barker on his free time plays the stuff you see him play all the time on youtube or in Blink 182? I can bet if you were to ask travis barker to play any kind of style he would. He plays what he does all the time cause that's the kind of drumming people want him to play. It's just like Jessica Simpson singing country. Nobody cares if you can play everything thing under the sun, you just don't belong. Why would he just start randomly start playing jazz or funk? Do you see Gabb, Neil, Portnoy, Rich, or all the greats playing a style of travis barkers? Do you think they can? Of course they could but that's there style. Drumming is drumming everyone has there own style, and they play it.

[brycephinn]

I forgot to add. I would like to see Billy Cobham keep up with Enema of the state. They both have speed yes but speed and insurance? A good drummer should be able to play a song, Drum solo, and play a fast tempo for a longtime.

[Joshimitsu]

Travis Barker is and always will be my biggest drumming influence. he is the reason that i started playing drums and he is still my favourite player. No he is not the best drummer in the world but he is damn good. i enjoy his style and i think his hand technique is extremely good. he throws a lot of rudiments in to his playing and he has inspired a lot of drummers of my generation just like John Bonham did for older generations. I don't think Travis deserves the hate he gets but to each their own. I just don't think it's right to knock someone who clearly is talented. No matter what anyone says you can't deny that Travis Barker is a good drummer.

[Chaos_Inferno]

In my opinion Travis Barker is great. I doubt he is the best drummer of all time. Do you think Travis Barker on his free time plays the stuff you see him play all the time on youtube or in Blink 182? I can bet if you were to ask travis barker to play any kind of style he would. He plays what he does all the time cause that's the kind of drumming people want him to play. It's just like Jessica Simpson singing country. Nobody cares if you can play everything thing under the sun, you just don't belong. Why would he just start randomly start playing jazz or funk? Do you see Gabb, Neil, Portnoy, Rich, or all the greats playing a style of travis barkers? Do you think they can? Of course they could but that's there style. Drumming is drumming everyone has there own style, and they play it.

I forgot to add. I would like to see Billy Cobham keep up with Enema of the state. They both have speed yes but speed and insurance? A good drummer should be able to play a song, Drum solo, and play a fast tempo for a longtime.I can appreciate what Barker is to the public and the drumming community and his obvious talent, but these posts are literally just blind worship of one person.

There's plenty of other rock players who can play CIRCLES around Barker with a similar style: fact. Just because you like him doesn't mean you need to defend him from the "haters" by putting down other people's favorite drummers for... absolutely no reason.

[aydee]

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he's just plain rediculuss! nuff said.

[Swiss Matthias]

They both have speed yes but speed and insurance?
Yes, it is recommended to have good insurance when using high speeds!

[Pocket-full-of-gold]

I would like to see Billy Cobham keep up with Enema of the state. They both have speed yes but speed and insurance? A good drummer should be able to play a song, Drum solo, and play a fast tempo for a longtime.

Billy Cobham? The same 32nd note-run-round-the-toms-at-blistering-speed, Billy Cobham?? Couldn't keep up with Enema of the State??? Surely you jest?

Somehow I think he'd get a handle on Blink 182!

[Arky]

As to speed and insurance... I can play 270 bpm heel-toe for 3 minutes, now I know I need insurance - thanks for the heads up, hahaha.

PS: My only relation to Travis Barker is that when I bought my first 2 pairs of sticks 1 year ago, those sticks were recommended to me because they're great for practicing on a pad. IMO Travis Barker is an ok drummer, has some style of his own and he fits Blink 182 perfectly, but ultimately he's an overrated drummer with way too much buzz around him. Proof? Look at this thread... Travis Barker gives no reason for more than 1,000 posts IMHO.

[the baz]

I almost can't get over this redickuloussly high high-hat, and his tiny and fully painted
upper body, lol!

But the playing is cool. Not my cup of tea musically, but he has a lot of energy, and he's
right on the spot.
There have been a few gold quotes in this thread. I have to say that I find the whole, "look at me with my shirt off and heaps of tats" thing really off putting. It is also real annoying to have drummers with the caliber of say Benny Greb or Gavin Harrison compared to Travis in a negative way by the Travis fans that are consumed by their "blind worship".
That said, even though just the look of Travis Playing, (even when not playing) makes me uncomfortable, he is without doubt a very competent drummer who has added a dimension to Blink182. I am sure that Travis didn't get the skill that he has because he "blindly worshiped" only one particular drummer, and obviously his heroes were not all from the one genre.
It would be nice to be able to watch some creative drummer doing his thing on youtube and not have thousands of teens comment about how the guy is not a patch on Travis or Joey.
Instead of telling every other drummer to narrow their field, they should learn to expand their own. Rant Off!

[the baz]

Yes, it is recommended to have good insurance when using high speeds!

Great catch, I missed that but LMAO when you pointed that out.

[lachlin]

I saw Blink 182 this past weekend at Voodoofest in New Orleans, and I have to say, Travis Barker is a beast on the kit. He did a drum solo middle of the set that was AMAZING! I watched him closely and he plays some very difficult stuff at an incredibly high rate of speed.

[Pocket-full-of-gold]

can someone tell me why he is so freaking special!!???

Because he's out there doin' it........and getting well paid for his efforts..........whilst the rest of us are all wanking around passing judgement on the internet?

Is is Travis' fault that tosser fanboys who wouldn't know their arse from their elbow heap undue credit and praise on him? All he's doing is playing his drums mate.......the rest comes down to the idolisers.

No, he's not "da best drumma eva"....he's not even the best drummer I know. But until I hear Barker actually claim that mantle himself, my position on this won't change. He's not responsible for what morons may "think".......that's a fact.

[jofizzm]

I like him. He plays grooves, I like grooves. Portnoy (who is amazing) can keep his solos and fills, gimme grooves!