Travis Barker

[AvengedDrummer]

Man that guy gets into it! even in the slow part when hes just doing a beat between the hi-hat and snare he's rockin out!

[TheSteve]

Yeah, he's playing what he always plays, just slower. He still looks way too goofy for me when he plays too.

[rendezvous_drummer]

i actually find that hilarious! He's head banging to country music!! WHO DOES THAT!?

[Class A Drummer]

travis-country... heh heh hehehehehehe

[Bonham to the moon]

wow, that guy takes himself WAY to seriously. hes doing a t.v. spot for an award show that NOONE watches, get over yourself.

[Stu_Strib]

Kudos to Travis for playing with some of the coolest country guys on the planet. Dwight Yoakam is a funky dude for sure, and I bet it was his idea to get Travis on there.

Quck! Who was the best musician on stage?

If you didn't answer Brad Paisley then y'all need to broaden your musical tastes a bit.

The slow shuffle part was played horribly, with those swiping hi-hat strokes. The kit itself was completely out of place sonically (not to mention visually, but hwo cares).

That was just really weird. Did anyone else notice that it wasn't rehearsed very well either? One song didn't start together (Travis came in late) and another one didn't end together (Travis stopped and then Billy Gibbons played some dumb embellishment riff at the end).

And if Reba has any more plastic surgery, her face might actually just fall off.

[averypoordrummer]

haha that was priceless! there was all the country guys at the front and travis gently headbanging at the back!

brilliant

[Drums558]

Can't get the vid to download past 30 sec, all I see is Reba talking.
Brad Paisley is a fantastic guitarist, wish I could see Travis playing. My hat's off to him for doing this.
I hate dial up!!!
Mike

[Drummer Karl]

hahahaha, nice to see him playing country...but he doesn`t really fit into country...headbang?? hahaha...nice one!

Karl

[beatsMcGee]

i havnt actually got to see it yet cuase im at work, but i can imagin the head banging that he does, and thats cool to me, he gets into his stuff no matter how slow or fast, at least he feels his music and isnt some dude sitting up there with no emotion like you see some people do.

[Henry II]

for all of you who think travisbarker isnt musically diverse...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcRMmGVaQek&search=buck%20owens%20tribute

That was creepy!
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[centralzeke]

Give this guy a friggin break! I thought he sounded great.

[beatsMcGee]

Give this guy a friggin break! I thought he sounded great.


yea i think everyone, as soon as they see a travis barker thread, starts geting ready to insult his performance... i really dont see what he did bad, i mean it wasnt amazing but he wasnt trying to be, people talk about him being to busy on the drums and then he calms down and does a country song, and then people claim its not busy or diverse enough...its like a catch 22 all the time he cant win for losing.

[Bernhard]

When I see him play here I think of Animal of the Muppet Show. So many unnecessary movements.

Bernhard

[beatsMcGee]

its fun to watch though no? he gets into it alot its crazy

[centralzeke]

Yep a lot of people jump at the opportunity to mock Travis Barker. Face it, it sounded good, how he looks when he plays has nothing to do with the music itself.. if he has to sideswipe to feel a slow country beat, who cares?

[rendezvous_drummer]

Hey I'm not bashing him on his playing. It fitted the music perfectly....he just looked alot different than all the others.....headbanging, mohawk, it's all good.

[soulwarrior56]

Man that guy gets into it! even in the slow part when hes just doing a beat between the hi-hat and snare he's rockin out!
hey im new to this thread

[soulwarrior56]

hry travis dousnt fit country good specially at the hi-hat he needs to twirl his sticks some

[soulwarrior56]

Man that guy gets into it! even in the slow part when hes just doing a beat between the hi-hat and snare he's rockin out!
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[AvengedDrummer]

^^^^ thats nice. (blah blah 2020)

[SOGdrummer]

Actually I thought he was ridiculous and wasted an opportunity in front of millions of viewers to show that drummers, even "headbangers" CAN be musically diverse.

[Bonham to the moon]

Actually I thought he was ridiculous and wasted an opportunity in front of millions of viewers to show that drummers, even "headbangers" CAN be musically diverse.

i agree completely, i think that he kind of shamed the drumming community, to a lot of the people that wtched that show probably came away from it thinking, hey that was a good performance, but did you see that tool of a drummer? yea, i told you all drummers are just tattoed idiots bangin on whatever is near by.

[tomgrosset]

He's overrated in my opinion.
And he does look odd playing country...

[millerdakiller]

he is an idiot. I'm sorry, but his drums are tuned so inapropriately for the music.

[centralzeke]

Okay guys. He sounded great.

[bonzo101191]

I honestly dont kno wat the big deal is about him. watch some of his solos, the one from fuel on his page at drummerworld. its all beats and a couple a fast rudiments. believe me, if there were no lights flashing around him during that drum solo, nobody wouldve been impressed.

[ewanlaing]

I honestly dont kno wat the big deal is about him. watch some of his solos, the one from fuel on his page at drummerworld. its all beats and a couple a fast rudiments. believe me, if there were no lights flashing around him during that drum solo, nobody wouldve been impressed.
yes, but as everyones already said, thats not his best solo by far, and it's certainly not his best work. theres a better solo from a blink show on drummerworld and you only have to listen to an album to know he can do much better.

[Stu_Strib]

Actually I thought he was ridiculous and wasted an opportunity in front of millions of viewers to show that drummers, even "headbangers" CAN be musically diverse.

I think this is the only post that people need to read. And for those of you who say "So What?", you need to lose the Travis-Worship and LISTEN to what he's playing. It isn't very good...the timing is bad, the starts and ends are horrible, the country swing is erratic.

This is why he has the mohawk and the crazy drumset, so you don't notice the fact the guy is a spastic punk drummer, and not really your top tier musician.

[deadbirdsoup]

my word...i am shocked by how awful that was.

[tambian89]

Quick! Who was the best musician on stage?

If you didn't answer Brad Paisley then y'all need to broaden your musical tastes a bit.

Sorry, but I have to say Billy Gibbons. He's one of my favorite guitarists (ZZ TOP!!!!!)

The performance was o.k. Again, nothing special, but Travis' needs to watch himself. As said by Stu, he started late on one song, and ended early on another. However, I'm pretty sure that if Travis practiced Country Rock, he may end up pretty decent; aside from that, Travis Barker just looks out of place. Billy Gibbons' beard hardly makes him weird with that freaky mohawk behind him.

- Marc

[syaoran05]

he's popular

he's got chops

he's fast

he does what needs to be done.

imo

he's just Lars with chops.

[wontgetfooledagain]

I was on another forum where there were actually people trying to figure out which was better: Travis Barker or Neil Peart.

[skippy]

ok people im rockin the mohawk so whats wrong with it. and i play jazz, rock, funk, blues, punk, pop-punk, latin, and some other wierd things. so whats wrong with the mohawk?

[drummer625]

I think hes good but not nearly as good as everyone thinks he is, expecialy most of his solos he starts out playing something pretty cool then he just starts playing a whole bunch of beats with long fills

[Cannons]

I have never been a Blink-182 or Travis Barker fan, but I don't indiscriminately bash him out of hand. I'm more indifferent than anything. That said, I thought his playing was mediocre and his style (looks, mechanics, gestures, etc.) were inappropriate to the song and the occasion. I did get a kick out of seeing a bunch of country stars happily singing along to the songs.

[beatsMcGee]

I have never been a Blink-182 or Travis Barker fan, but I don't indiscriminately bash him out of hand. I'm more indifferent than anything. That said, I thought his playing was mediocre and his style (looks, mechanics, gestures, etc.) were inappropriate to the song and the occasion. I did get a kick out of seeing a bunch of country stars happily singing along to the songs.


i can understand the arguments on his timing being off, or what ever else you want to throw in there, i mean if its off its off oh well, but to bring up the fact he looked odd has nothing to do with musicality or his skill... i didnt hear anything really off it sounded fine to me.. but then again maybe i need to train my ears more to what is being played.. so im not just a crazed fan saying hes not off time.. he could have been i just didnt notice it..

[TC_759]

everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and some have valid points. The others are either speaking out of ignorance or jelousy. The bottom line is, the man is doing what he loves for a living, and acomlishing all his goals. Im sure he did not ask for all the fame and popualrity that came with it, but he is doing what the majority of people that wrote in this forum dream of every day.

[Backwards Marathon]

OMG!!!! Travis???? is that you?????? this is one of the wierdest music collaberations ive seen since jay z and paul mcartney went together lol.

[poor_unfortunate_child]

I'm actually a fan of Travis, but...you can't base his so called 'musical diversity' on this video :)...

If it was some kind of jazz groove/solo, i would've bought it. But i didn't really think anything special about his drumming in the vid.

Ok a really good drummer could play anything not just punk rock or whatever, any really good drummer could play any style of music wether it may be country as you saw in this video to hip/hop or jazz, if a drummer could only play metal, punk rock etc, that isnt a very good drummer, but travis could play anything, hip/hop, country, punk rock you name it, that what makes him such a good drummer

[Vic_Rattledeth]

Wow, that just reminded me of how much country sucks. And Travis barker isn't all that great.

[funked_up]

Lol I enjoyed Travis' Head Banging, lmao, some people never change. Interesting...

[Stu_Strib]

Wow, that just reminded me of how much country sucks. And Travis barker isn't all that great.

Well you got half of that statement right.

[brittc89]

Well you got half of that statement right.
Ha ha ha! (20 characters)

[petgeh]

Whats the black thing in Travis Barkers bass drum?
Does it make a differnet sound?

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

It's some kind of overpriced pillow. It'll just muffle the sound of the bass drum slightly. Probably needs it seeing as it's overlength...

[TopCat]

Just a dampening pillow to remove any overtones he doesnt want, or to remove some resonance to get a flat 'thud' sound. Most people who don't have more money than sense, use regular pillows or blankets. I personally dont use any now, on my pearl, as i get the right sound i want from my Emad.

[petgeh]

Thanks for the answears. I use just a pillow, to remove any overtones.

[Stu_Strib]

Actually there is a point to the overpriced pillows. They are hinged, so that when you hit the head, the pillow flies off the head for a moment, allowing a big sound to form, then the pillow falls back on the head, muting the overtones.

I personally like the Steve Gadd thuddy fwap sound, so I go full pillow.

[brittc89]

Actually there is a point to the overpriced pillows. They are hinged, so that when you hit the head, the pillow flies off the head for a moment, allowing a big sound to form, then the pillow falls back on the head, muting the overtones.

I personally like the Steve Gadd thuddy fwap sound, so I go full pillow.
I have an over priced pillow and I dont really like it, it gives me a weird sound for sure. Theyre not big enough and theyre expensive, but youre supposed to put two together or something, I think thats BS, they dont give you enough pillow to start with just to be able to charge you double. I just want a bigger hinged one in general. As you can tell Im fuming mad, ha!

[spacebeat3117]

its the evans emad gateway pillow thats about $35 and it works great! i wouldnt go back to a regular pillow!

[aceman]

Its probably part of his brain that this fruitcake never uses!

[petgeh]

What do you think about, of his set up?
I have been playing for a year now, and I set up my drums like he does.
But i don't fell comfortable when i play.
How is the best way to set up the kit for playing punk?
(sorry about my english)

[funkydrumming]

In my opinion,there isnt a right or wrong way to setting up the drums.Set them up to how you feel comfortable with them.I think punk drummers mostly have all their drums close together as they play fast.

[GRUNTERSDAD]

I would agree with Funky, if you want their sound thats one thing, but to try and match a set up may be difficult with differences in your height and his, types of equipment, tom mounts etc. You will play much better no matter what the type of music is if you are comfortable playing.

[Raymond Bloom]

There is no special way for setting up drums to the music you play! Position everything so it is easy to reach the, angles are comfortable, and your body is in a relaxed position while playing.

Check out Dave Weckl's Natural Evolution DVD, really cool stuff about setting up drumset!

The idea is basically that you start with a bass drum, snare drum and throne.
The throne height should be that high so when you are rimshoting on the snare drum and playing bass drum, you aren't hitting your legs, also the angle of your legs should be about 110-120º Find the comfortable position and add hi-hat, now close your eyes and try to ''air drum'' in the place where your hands stop you have to position it, the same about toms, cymbals etc

Forget about copying other drummers set up, you are one and unique! Don't try to be number 2 anybody, just be number 1 you

[petgeh]

Thanks for the good tips.
Today i will set up everything new. Do you think it's good to turn the crash cymbals flat.

[Raymond Bloom]

Do you think it's good to turn the crash cymbals flat.
Nope! Only if they are pretty low.
From Sabian website (http://www.sabian.com/english/education/Edu_Cymbals.cfm?RI=9):
''These cymbals should be positioned fairly flat and angled only slightly toward you, so your stick can slice across their edge. A cymbal that is angled too steeply is restricted from moving freely and it will suffer the same stress as if it were bolted down too tight. This will restrict the sound and can lead to cracking''

the angle could be ~5-10º

[Ashton Drum's]

This calls for a quote Art Blakey once said "Drummers should stop looking at other drummers’ equipment and say, I’m going to duplicate that.’ It doesn’t matter what kind of instrument the drummer has. It isn’t the instrument, it’s the musician."

[RossB15]

hey the solo travis did with blink 182, the most recent one, he has a backing track playing along with it was just wondering does anyone know waht this is and were you can get it/ download it? cheers

[beatsMcGee]

im not one hundred precent sure, and ill listen to it again later when i get home to make sure, but it might be the stockholm syndrom track 7 off the untitled cd.. i know near the end it turns into something different but it kind of sounded like that track near the begining of the solo... ill check again later...

[RossB15]

i think too many people judge travis on his drum solos which he did with blink, however if you listen to some of his grooves in blinks songs they are amazing. others say ah hes just good in his music type, he can also play hip-hop and jazz and also marching drums preety gd too. plus some people have made out speed to be just something that dont matter, ' ah hes just fast' well that makes him goof then doesnt it! you would see guys like chad smith ever go that fast because they cant, im not saying that fast is everything but it is a skill to be admired. Travis has influenced me so much just beacuse i like what he does, ive listened to other drummers such as steve gadd etc and they dont do the same for me as a good punk rock beat does.

[RossB15]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUYbuMMQzdE - you can here it clearly in this video, when he starts his actual solo about 0:50 -

[pdp 9091]

i think too many people judge travis on his drum solos which he did with blink, however if you listen to some of his grooves in blinks songs they are amazing. others say ah hes just good in his music type, he can also play hip-hop and jazz and also marching drums preety gd too. plus some people have made out speed to be just something that dont matter, ' ah hes just fast' well that makes him goof then doesnt it! you would see guys like chad smith ever go that fast because they cant, im not saying that fast is everything but it is a skill to be admired. Travis has influenced me so much just beacuse i like what he does, ive listened to other drummers such as steve gadd etc and they dont do the same for me as a good punk rock beat does.


Um wow where do I start? I know this is all your opinion but come on kid. You sound so ignorant when you say "you wouldn't see guys like chad smith ever go that fast because they cant" Do you know what you're talking about here. In so many more ways Chad Smith has Barker beat in so many aspects of drumming. If you're gonna talk about styles of playing chad plays funk, punk, country, and he probably can play marching. You have to be opened minded. Anybody can be fast. If i worked on it every day I could get as fast as Travis. And if i do, what do i accomplish? nothing. And you're saying steve gadd doesnt do the same for you like a good punk beat does? I think youll mature over time and this will change and youll appreaciate the pioneers in the drumming world. But hey, its your opinion

[beatsMcGee]

thanks, i thought you were talkin about the one on ocdp.com but i cant see that youtube vid right now since i am at work.. ill veiw it at home and let you know. thanks

peace

[beatsMcGee]

yea i wouldnt go as far as to say that chad smith cant go as fast at barker... who knows, im sure he has amazing chops too....but i do understand what you mean when you say you enjoy just a good ole barker style beat as do i... but i also enjoy and creative and catchy beat.. like alot of steve Gadds work i adore b/c its so catchy and different..

has anyone ever taken the time to read an interveiw with Travis Barker...? obviously i have since i am a big fan, but its intresting because he talks about growing up adoring all these same people like: Steve Gadd, Chambers, Cobham, Copeland, Ginger Baker, John Bonham, Keith moon and others. he talks of his drum teachers making him play Cobham stuff instead of Van Halen that he wanted to play.. the only reason i say this is because alot of his fans do make themselves appear ignorant b/c of what they say about him "beign the best ever", and if you asked the man himself what he though hed probably be so increadably humble, and just start talkin about his personal idols rather than his success... so maybe his huge fans should actually take some time and see where Travis Barker found his motivation and check that out too.. and maybe youll get some respect from the other people on here that think your ignorant and just infactualed...

i personally dont think your ignorant just a little unexposed... as i stated im probably one of the biggest fans if not the biggest fan of Barker on this forum, but i know there are better players... he can still be your favorite, just explore other pioneers before making claims.

[brittc89]

If you're gonna talk about styles of playing chad plays funk, punk, country, and he probably can play marching. You have to be opened minded. Anybody can be fast.
Im not defending travis barker, but I think you need to think about what youre saying. yes anyone can be fast, but anyone can play all those styles as well if you work at it enough. And 3 genres that are similar, one that he just plays like the funk/punk (yes the country), is not all that impressive to me. And we all saw Travis Barker play country, so he can do that, and I guarantee he can play funk just as much as you can guarantee Chad Smith can play marching music.

[RossB15]

hey pdp 9091 i was just sayin that basically i enjoy listening to travis more than the likes of steve gadd, u say when i mature ot watever i will change my opinion, i dont think i will, i have watched so many other drummers and love their stuff. im not out saying travis is the best out or anything coz i know he isnt and far from it. though its just so many people give him stick on this forum and why the guy has done his job with every band he has been in. although his solo aint the best ever, wud u not do it to have all those gils scremin for ya!

[DWDrummer]

Yes pdp 9091 you are right, I saw chad play just as fast as travis at the guitar center drum off a couple years back. But you said if you would practice every day you could be as fast as Travis. How do you know this? Have you tried it? No, obviously not. Moreover, you said it wouldn't accomplish anything. How so? I sense a ton of jealously here. Don't bring in Steve Gadd here or any other drummer to help you "prove a point." You can go to the easy escape by calling me ignorant or whatever, but I think you are being a little ignorant here. Travis is good and that is something you can't deny.


P.S.Travis was chosen out of all the drummers to play in the "super band" at the COUNTRY awards.

[DWDrummer]

travis barker has started a revolution.... like it or not.... look at all the teenage kids who dress like him.....5 years from now every other rock drummer will be holding their arms over their head or playing with their shirt off or with a mohawk......crazy idea huh? so were The Beatles, and the people who even dared to dream of flying in airplanes...

[stevefty]

I know this isn't about Chad Smith. But Have you guys ever listened to whole chili pepperes album? He can and does match Travis' speed. I actually think that Travis' drumming on the self titled album is great. It's technical and I love how creative he gets with beats and fills but Cahd Smith may not show off as much but he can still play insanley fast solid drum fills.

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

P.S.Travis was chosen out of all the drummers to play in the "super band" at the COUNTRY awards.

Did you see the clips? He was awful. We had a post on it over on the general discussion lounge. I've posted here before and I'm not going to re-itterate my stance on Travis.

[ewanlaing]

I know this isn't about Chad Smith. But Have you guys ever listened to whole chili pepperes album? He can and does match Travis' speed. I actually think that Travis' drumming on the self titled album is great. It's technical and I love how creative he gets with beats and fills but Cahd Smith may not show off as much but he can still play insanley fast solid drum fills.
i agree. i'm always surprised by chad's speed. and i'm always surprised by how funky travis can be. he is a very creative drummer indeed.

[beatsMcGee]

I know this isn't about Chad Smith. But Have you guys ever listened to whole chili pepperes album? He can and does match Travis' speed. I actually think that Travis' drumming on the self titled album is great. It's technical and I love how creative he gets with beats and fills but Cahd Smith may not show off as much but he can still play insanley fast solid drum fills.


i really enjoyed hs drumming on the untitled cd aswell...its very creative and teastful... lots of cool fills and sounds.. he used lots of different drums to get those cool sounds.. i really love the drums on track 10 "always"


and PS: can we not turn this thread into a ontopic disscussion of Travis... 90% of this thread is people bashing him and then his fans supporting him.. this seems a little off topic and redundant.. can we not just talk about Travis's drumming in a more ontopic manner and not just "he sucks" "hes the best" spam. for example disscussing his sound, technique, stage presence... what ever..

peace

[Stu_Strib]

that he just plays like the funk/punk (yes the country), is not all that impressive to me. And we all saw Travis Barker play country, so he can do that, and I guarantee he can play funk just as much as you can guarantee Chad Smith can play marching music.

OOOH! A Chad Smith vs. Travis Barker country drumming thread...very interesting.

Smith's drumming on the new Dixie Chicks album is way more believable than that video with Barker playing for Deeeeeewight Yoakum and co. Still, Smith's 'country' drumming sounded suspiciously like RHCP drumming, at lower volumes ;-)

[Stu_Strib]

travis barker has started a revolution.........5 years from now every other rock drummer will be holding their arms over their head or playing with their shirt off or with a mohawk......crazy idea huh?


Uhhh, I hate to break it to you, but drummers have been doing this well before Travis Barker. There is nothing revolutionary about tatoos, mohawks, shirtless crazy drummers with flailing arms...

[DWDrummer]

mediocrefunkybeat-

there is a reason travis gets paid to play drums every day and you are sitting in front of a computer typing away and bashing on him and his fans.

it just doesn't make sense... he is a professional.......how can you critique?


him playing that country beat was excellent..... perfect volume..

[DWDrummer]

these posts make me sick.

this is what I have learned after reading these rediculous posts

1.so now it is wrong to feel the music
2.you can't make any other gestures besides playing music like a statue

That is why Travis is such an idol to so many drummers today. He is doing something different than a lot of people. Most of you are just afraid of change. But of course who is going to listen to me. He reminds me of Buddy Rich in his expressions (but of course Buddy Rich and Ed Shaughnessey (spelling error, I know) smiled more...) I'm not saying they have similar motions but they both FEEL the music...

Travis is great at drumming.

Here are some other facts to take in

1. Travis Barker is not Steve Gadd
2. Just because he is not Steve Gadd, doesn't mean he's not great/good whatever.

[dizkneelande]

rofl! he looks so out of place

[brittc89]

1.so now it is wrong to feel the music
2.you can't make any other gestures besides playing music like a statue

No, you can make flamboyant gestures and things like that when it is appropriate to the style of music, like when youre playing in your wildly successful pop punk band. But he simply was out of place, movement wise, in his playing. For instance, I dont care how much Beethovens 5th Symphony makes you wanna ROCK OUT, if you are in the London Philharmonic and you start banging your head and flailin your arms like a madman while playing the mariba part, I will guarantee that you are gonna get fired. Does that make any sense?

[DWDrummer]

yes I get that point thanks bro

i hope we can continue "healthy arguments" like that it really helps

but, I believe that the 1920's era of music has ended, and we are in the year 2006, travis is not going to be playing a jazz piece in front of 10,000 screaming fans, he is playing rock and that's ONE of the genres he loves, you guys are past your times...

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

mediocrefunkybeat-

there is a reason travis gets paid to play drums every day and you are sitting in front of a computer typing away and bashing on him and his fans.

it just doesn't make sense... he is a professional.......how can you critique?


him playing that country beat was excellent..... perfect volume..

And where would we be without critique? I'm allowed to say that I didn't enjoy his performance. He didn't hit the ending of songs, his feel was sloppy, he looked completely out of place and his timing was way off. Didn't compliment the songs at all. I'm not bashing on you at all, I'm merely making a point that I didn't enjoy his performance. Just because I don't worship him doesn't mean I can't say what I'd like to say about him. Perhaps you should watch the video again through the eyes of a 'non worshipper' and you'll understand.

If you read the whole thread, you'll find that I have no issues with Travis personally. What I do have issues with are legions of fans blinded with the 'Travis is God' mindset.

[Stu_Strib]

If you read the whole thread, you'll find that I have no issues with Travis personally. What I do have issues with are legions of fans blinded with the 'Travis is God' mindset.

Not that it will make any difference, but I got your back on this one Mediocrefunkybeat. You basically summed it up perfectly.

God save us if the only critique we can have of that country clip is: "The volume was perfect.".

What in the heck does that mean?

[petgeh]

I think Travis is a great drummer and so many people started playing because of him. (like me) Of course he is not the best and you can't compare him with drummers like Steve Gadd, Dave Weckl ... But if you compare him with Chad Smith, you have to says that Chad Smith is 13 years older than Travis, and who knows how Travis will play in 13 years.
I if you want to know something more about him than read these interviews:

http://www.blink-182.org/facts.interviews.html?show_interview=13

http://www.aliens-exist.net/sub_pages/article.01.html

http://www.drummagazine.com/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1131

[T-1000]

I agree with beats here - if Travis gets creative, he 'overplays', if he doesn't, his 'timing is way off' or he's 'nothing special.'

Lets face it, you guys are out to bash him just as much as those kerrraze fan-boys are out to worship him. And Travis's timing is never 'way off.' In fact, I don't think I've ever witnessed a professional drummer get their timing way off - they're all just too skilled at that level. So point me an album based example of Travis getting his timing wrong Stu, because I know you've said one exists, and I'll shut up.

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

Not that it will make any difference, but I got your back on this one Mediocrefunkybeat. You basically summed it up perfectly.

God save us if the only critique we can have of that country clip is: "The volume was perfect.".

What in the heck does that mean?

That the guitars were amplified enough. Cheers Stu, we'll see if they come back.

[Stu_Strib]

i hope we can continue "healthy arguments" like that it really helps



The only problem with the healthy arguments on here is that very few people actually realize how awful that was from a MUSIC standpoint.

Argue tatoos, feeling and mohawk all you want. The fact remains, it was awful.

[syaoran05]

I am a young drummer I'm still in high school. My bad for using the word technique instead of grip.

being young and in highschool is never an excuse. never ever use that again. just say "my bad" next time. youre giving high school people like me a bad reputation.

i just dont get it. since when did being in highschool an excuse for being so immature.?

maybe its just me or highschool students nowadays are as immature as grade 4 kids?

oh and travis? he's just another pop drummer. nothing special. he does what he has to do. the only thing good about him that i'd like to see in other drummers is that he has good technique. other than that he's just another pop drummer.

[RossB15]

Guys he was doing it as a tribute, leave him alone.

[Stu_Strib]

i just dont get it. since when did being in highschool an excuse for being so immature.?



Since about the last 120 years of Educational Psychology ;-)

T-1000: I've posted that list a couple times already on here, so sorry I'm not going to humor you again. I think the fact you've NEVER heard a recorded song with a mistake or bad timing says a lot about your critical listening. Are you serious? You've NEVER heard obviously rushed drum fills, or horribly lagging bass players? Hmmm..... I wonder what kind of music you listen to.

[finnhiggins]

That was hilarious.

I hope it was intended to be that apalling, it certainly had me in stitches...

[Stu_Strib]

That was hilarious.

I hope it was intended to be that apalling, it certainly had me in stitches...


Dude, didn't you see, it was a TRIBUTE! (I don't know what that means either, but it struck me as funny).

[TopCat]

Dude, didn't you see, it was a TRIBUTE!
And we said nay, we are but men, rock!
aaaaahhhaaaaahhaaa
etc

[ewanlaing]

I think you'll find otherwise buddy. On the other hand, you'll probably find that is true of you, however.
i'm sorry, i couldn't let it go.; thats just a darn silly comeback.
but i do agree with you to some extent. he isn't really as good as he's cracked up to be. but he is a great drummer regardless. it seems punk fans have stages, and they go something like this.
1."wow, tre cool is the best"
2."wait, no, travis barker is the best"
3.realisation of gadd, weckl, rich etc.

i know, because i went through the same phases. now i feel like a dork, but everyone starts off small with their drumming heroes and builds it up.

[sloppyn9ne]

I was on another forum where there were actually people trying to figure out which was better: Travis Barker or Neil Peart.

o dear, thats really depressing lol, thats worse than a freshman tryin to figure out what 8 times 6 is WITH a calculator which ive seen before, well i do have respect for travis but honselty thats a no brainer....

[Miggle]

he does look ridiculous with the cowboy attire around. :D

he doesn't seem to have any problem playing country songs.

were those zxt titaniums?

[pimp_my_RIDE]

I used to love tavis barker but now because of the insight this site has given me I am not such a big fan. I still think he is very talented but i don't think as highly.

[DWDrummer]

being young and in highschool is never an excuse. never ever use that again. just say "my bad" next time. youre giving high school people like me a bad reputation.

i just dont get it. since when did being in highschool an excuse for being so immature.?

maybe its just me or highschool students nowadays are as immature as grade 4 kids?

oh and travis? he's just another pop drummer. nothing special. he does what he has to do. the only thing good about him that i'd like to see in other drummers is that he has good technique. other than that he's just another pop drummer.


"You're giving people like me a bad reputation" Oh please, get over yourself. Don't give yourself the mindset you are on some "level" above me.

Oh yeah, you know, Travis is just another drummer. He's only sold over 20 million albums, not including all the other bands he's recorded with (BCR, Transplants, Black Eyed Peas, etc).

[DWDrummer]

Stu- what could have been a better groove?

[Subdivisions]

Quote by DWDrummer: "He's only sold over 20 million albums, not including all the other bands he's recorded with (BCR, Transplants, Black Eyed Peas, etc)."

If you're impressed with that number of albums and bands than you should check out Vinnie Colaiuta's discography.

http://vinniecolaiuta.com/discography.aspx

[gringo998]

im not a fan, but i must say, im surprised he didnt out play him self.

[DWDrummer]

See, here is the problem. I'm not talking about Vinnie Colaiuta's discography. I am talking about Travis Barker. This thread is about Travis Barker. I didn't make that statement for those numbers to be compared to anyone else. I made it because 75% of hte people on this forum think Travis Barker is jsut another drummer. "Other" drummers don't just sell 20 million records.

[Stu_Strib]

See, here is the problem. I'm not talking about Vinnie Colaiuta's discography. I am talking about Travis Barker.


See, here is the problem. Album sales don't mean JACK about musicality and skill. However, being invited to play on Megadeath, Faith Hill, Frank Zappa, and about 1000 other diverse musical acts says a lot about your musicality.

[DWDrummer]

Here are some clips that I know most of you on here have never seen. Excellent compsure and chops here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSTR0jHfKGY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8KrvGpkyH8

[gringo998]

i think bernard said it best
if he thousands of kids started playing drums because of him
its positive
abilitywise, hes overrated for sure, WAY to much, but not bad. and hes not trying to be the greatest drummer ever, its just people who claim he is. in his point of view, hes making music, and doing what he loves best.
i give him credit for that

[DWDrummer]

Well then count Travis Barker in for having a good, diverse musical stand. It was pretty cool that he got invited to play at that country award show, but Travis is by far the most wanted drummer for the rap scene today.

And please, don't start an argument about rap. Everyone's already heard it all. Plus, all of you here who bash on Travis stress the importance of diversity in music. So if you look down upon rap you are just another hypocrite.

[wontgetfooledagain]

See, here is the problem. I'm not talking about Vinnie Colaiuta's discography. I am talking about Travis Barker. This thread is about Travis Barker. I didn't make that statement for those numbers to be compared to anyone else. I made it because 75% of hte people on this forum think Travis Barker is jsut another drummer. "Other" drummers don't just sell 20 million records.
You're making him out to be superhuman. This is a mistake. Not selling twenty million records doesn't make a drummer any less good. I'm sure there are plenty of drummers who are on his same level or better who have never sold a single record.

[DWDrummer]

Okay the 20 million records was NOT a good example on my part. Everyone is twisting what I was trying to get across. By far 20 million records is not "on top," I was using it to say that he isn't as bad of a drummer as everyone thinks here. But it is a bad example so just drop the idea.

[DWDrummer]

DRUMStuff.com: Who were your early influences?

Travis Barker: I liked Mikki Dee, who plays with King Diamond. He was with Dokken and Motorhead, too. God, he's an amazing drummer, he has a good style. I've always liked Dennis Chambers, he's real flashy. [giddily] God, who else do I like? I like Steve Gadd, everything he did with Steely Dan. There's so many. I like everything. Stewart Copeland. Fish-- I love him so much.

Ok, stop now- there's no need to argue anymore. Everyone on here is comparing Travis to the drummers HE loves. But on a sad note, most of his fans are young teenagers, who give him a bad name. It's unfortunate here how people are comparing him to people he looks up to, and everyone is acting as if Travis is "challenging" these drummers. I wonder if Travis ever reads these forums. He probably just laughs about all of this. He is by far the most laid back and caring celebrity in the music scene. Yes, I said celebrity. He is one, not because he chose to be, but because that's just what happens when a lot of screaming teenagers support him...

[Josh is a cult]

I need to get this out....
I LOVE BLINK-182. They write catchy fun music.
I LOVE BOXCAR RACERr they also write good music.
I like most of his projects, and the rest of the blink guys.
Travis barker is pretty damn good in my opinion, but i take my inspiration from EVERYTHING and EVERYONE, classic drummers, Great drummers, bad drummers, local drummers..Life lessons, spirituality, my surroundings, my lifestyle. I incorporate all of this in my drumming.
EVERY ASPECT OF MY LIFE is in my drumming.
music is about feeling, he show is well.
Its all opinion, thats mine.
and I must say he looked like an ass up there with the country stars, he shoulda chilled out, and that wasnt his place.

sorry for typing so much crap... maby im right maby im wrong, o well. =]

[Josh is a cult]

and DWdrummer thank you for the Boxcar video.

[DWDrummer]

Anytime. And I was hoping to see what Stu or Bernhard thinks of these videos...

[Stu_Strib]

Here are some clips that I know most of you on here have never seen. Excellent compsure and chops here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSTR0jHfKGY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8KrvGpkyH8

Dude, I like Boxcar the best of all the Blink spinoffs, but man...that just wasn't very good.

The drums were good though, and the drum sound was exceptional. The one thing I like about Travis is that he picks a riff and sticks with it through the whole song.

[DWDrummer]

I like his fast finger movements (?) , and I love Blink and BCR, etc, but Tom is an okay singer, he is really flat a lot in both of these videos, and he ends late a lot of the times in the songs...

[Josh is a cult]

oh ok so my opinion dosent matter, eh?
=[

[pdp 9091]

See, here is the problem. Album sales don't mean JACK about musicality and skill.


exactly Stu....we find a pure example of that with the beatles

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

20 Million albums musicianship does not give.

[DWDrummer]

didn't I say to drop the 20 million album example?
anyway musicianship and 20 million albums doesn't even help one another.... that's like comparing an apple and a chair...... that wasn't my point at all

[sudbrink]

Most of the arguments on this thread seem to be steeped in matters of taste. Not everybody is into fusion/prog/jazz/20 piece drum kits made from amazonian wood. Not everybody has been exposed to it. For a little kid who hasn't heard of Gadd or Cobham, seeing someone like Travis Barker could be life changing.

A lot of the bickering seems to be stemming from jealousy,albeit jealousy soaked up vicariously for your unrecognized drum idols. Let it go, dudes. Go practice or something.


Also,Travis may not be the best drummer in the world (wasn't he ranked 30th or something in an opinion poll?) but you can't argue that he isn't one of the least dorky drummers out there. Which is why people like him : he can hold his own, and he's pretty damn charismatic for drummer.

[petgeh]

Here is another great video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yPKisdSKDk&search=transplants

[Stu_Strib]

exactly Stu....we find a pure example of that with the beatles


No comment (Bernhard is lurking.)

A better example would be Elvis, or Brittney Spears, or Madonna.

[Stu_Strib]

and he's pretty damn charismatic for drummer.

Yep, I agree. His TV show is the only celebrity show that is any good. I think he's actually quite humble, normal and funny. I love his enthusiasm for cars as well. I just wish the show would focus more on his music life!

[petgeh]

If you interestet go to the homepage of his new band: http://www.plusfourtyfour.com/

On the fansite you can watch a video of recording, and listen to the first song No It isn't

http://www.plus44online.com/?page=media

[Fun With Goats]

Ok, I have read just about every one of these posts in this entire discussion. What you people need to understand is that you can't compare drummers from different genres and styles of music. Each category of music requires different musical needs. Travis being in the punk/pop-punk/general alternative uses different beats for his songs. Not all of his songs are fast tempo as many of you people have said. Where as Joey from Slipknot playing metal music, is required to play fast because of the style of music. Buddy Rich as some of you have mentioned is a great jazz drummer, but he doesnt play the same style drum beats as other drummers. All you people should understand is that Travis really is a great drummer for what kind of music he plays. Every drummer is great in their own way.

[TC_759]

I agree with mr. fun with goats completely.

Also, it was said that his time was off on some of his recordings, i just want to know what tracks on what albums cause i would like to give them a listen and get back to the forum.

[DWDrummer]

i agree completely, i think that he kind of shamed the drumming community, to a lot of the people that wtched that show probably came away from it thinking, hey that was a good performance, but did you see that tool of a drummer? yea, i told you all drummers are just tattoed idiots bangin on whatever is near by.


Idiot? I would never go that far man. Travis Barker is a great drummer and a great rock influence today.Wow, I would neevr refer to him just as "pounding on things." Say whatever you want but it's not going to change his drumming. Your just extremely jealous man. Go practice or something.

And it's pretty funny most of the people making these horrible comments of how Travis Barker "sucked" on the country awards are all grown men....wow...

[mrs.wega]

HAHAHA!!! that was weard..!

But I think he did great..! I would never imagine Travis could play country that good!

This shows even more what a great drummer he is!

[JoshRead]

Wow. I'm not a huge Travis Barker fan (I do think he's good though), but the mocking and insulting him is just uncalled for. He's playing COUNTRY; he can't just go all out and do anything. He has to keep it completely simple, and that's what he did. And as for the headbanging, mohawk, and so on, that's just what he dresses and looks like; they knew that when they asked him to be on it.

[finnhiggins]

Wow. I'm not a huge Travis Barker fan (I do think he's good though), but the mocking and insulting him is just uncalled for. He's playing COUNTRY; he can't just go all out and do anything. He has to keep it completely simple, and that's what he did. And as for the headbanging, mohawk, and so on, that's just what he dresses and looks like; they knew that when they asked him to be on it.

So what you're saying is that Travis had to act in an appropriate manner for the gig he was on.. but simultaneously also didn't have to?

[JoshRead]

So what you're saying is that Travis had to act in an appropriate manner for the gig he was on.. but simultaneously also didn't have to?

I was talking about his playing. He couldn't play anything other than what is very simple, because in country music, drums are not at all complex in most cases. As for his LOOKS, that's just how he dresses, and the people who asked him on knew that.

God bless

[shuffle]

He couldn't play anything other than what is very simple, because in country music, drums are not at all complex in most cases.

There is such a thing as a good country feel, and though it is not complex per se, it is not a gimme either. Could check Larrie Londin for samples, more recently Trey Gray. Jim Keltner has done some nice work on few Neil Young country songs as well, but Jim Keltner doesn't count because he's good at everything.

I'm not sure if TB was rehearsed enough for that country gig, but looks aside, the appropriate feel is absent.

[finnhiggins]

I was talking about his playing. He couldn't play anything other than what is very simple, because in country music, drums are not at all complex in most cases. As for his LOOKS, that's just how he dresses, and the people who asked him on knew that.


So what you're saying is that he had to be appropriate musically because his usual approach wouldn't fit the style, but he could be inappropriate in terms of his appearance and performance despite it absolutely not fitting the style? Why's that? Surely it's both or neither?

I'd agree that he would have to play simple in order to play country in that context, rather than his usual 16th-note-thrashing business. But I also think he should have at least attempted to fit the song in terms of his performance and attire, too - it's as much a part of the stage presentation as your playing is, and his stupid moshing just looked plain funny and out of place.

Any music is about communicating a feeling. Your playing should try to follow that - and Travis seems to have realised that. But if your appearance and behavior are directly contradictory to the feeling and emotion of the song as performed then you just end up undermining what the rest of the band is doing. It's as rude and immature as overplaying, IMHO.

[JoshRead]

So what you're saying is that he had to be appropriate musically because his usual approach wouldn't fit the style, but he could be inappropriate in terms of his appearance and performance despite it absolutely not fitting the style? Why's that? Surely it's both or neither?

I'd agree that he would have to play simple in order to play country in that context, rather than his usual 16th-note-thrashing business. But I also think he should have at least attempted to fit the song in terms of his performance and attire, too - it's as much a part of the stage presentation as your playing is, and his stupid moshing just looked plain funny and out of place.

Any music is about communicating a feeling. Your playing should try to follow that - and Travis seems to have realised that. But if your appearance and behavior are directly contradictory to the feeling and emotion of the song as performed then you just end up undermining what the rest of the band is doing. It's as rude and immature as overplaying, IMHO.

First, I also thought that his whole behavior and attire in that setting looked a bit silly. However, I tend to think that the sound they put out is more important then the look of the person putting out that sound. Now, I'm sure you believe that too; I'm not trying to say you don't. The thing is, that's just his personality and how he dresses. If he plays for Blink 182, he wears those clothes; not because he's playing with them, but because that's just how he dresses and looks. We shouldn't expect him to change how he always dresses because he's going into a setting where those people don't generally wear those sort of things or act that sort of way.

Maybe he was simply just getting into the song and his natural reaction is to headbang. Sounds kinda dumb, but you never know. Also, we don't know what he usually plays if he's just jamming himself, so we can't say his preferred play style is punk rock just because that's what the band he's in happens to play.

Anyway, no need to get off to a bad start on these forums, so I'll hush now hah.

God bless!

[finnhiggins]

First, I also thought that his whole behavior and attire in that setting looked a bit silly. However, I tend to think that the sound they put out is more important then the look of the person putting out that sound. Now, I'm sure you believe that too; I'm not trying to say you don't. The thing is, that's just his personality and how he dresses. If he plays for Blink 182, he wears those clothes; not because he's playing with them, but because that's just how he dresses and looks. We shouldn't expect him to change how he always dresses because he's going into a setting where those people don't generally wear those sort of things or act that sort of way.

Maybe he was simply just getting into the song and his natural reaction is to headbang. Sounds kinda dumb, but you never know. Also, we don't know what he usually plays if he's just jamming himself, so we can't say his preferred play style is punk rock just because that's what the band he's in happens to play.

Anyway, no need to get off to a bad start on these forums, so I'll hush now hah.


Don't worry about getting off to a bad start, this is an interesting topic and it's better than just arguing over whether Travis "sux" or something of the sort - so let's get to it!

My normal attire is pretty scruffy. I hate clothes shopping, so I make do with stuff basically until it falls apart and I'm in danger of getting arrested for indecent exposure. But if I get a call to play at a primarily classical performance - which has happened before... well... I wear a decent suit. Ditto a jazz gig. If I get asked to play a metal gig then out come the old scratty Tool T-shirts etc. It's just the same for working. If I'm going into work at a fairly informal media company then I'll just wear pretty standard stuff (avoiding the scratty Tool T-shirts, of course), yet if I'm getting called to go somewhere where they have a dress code then I dress up. The reason for this is basically that dressing deliberately different from the people around you is a very loud shout for attention and generally speaking I'd rather demand attention through my work before my appearance. It's better to understate your appearance and overemphasise the quality of your work, generally, otherwise people tend to think you're a bit of a ("indecent piece of anatomy" - Ed).

You see my point? How I normally dress isn't an issue, because any out-of-place dress on a gig (be it a suit on a metal gig or a metal T-shirt on a jazz gig) immediately calls attention to the person wearing it. Ditto behavior. Now, that's cool if your role is to call attention to yourself - but that's a cross-applicable thing which also reflects on your playing. So if you're dressed like a maniac and playing like a maniac I don't see an issue with that - see Terry Bozzio on the Zappa "Baby Snakes" video. He's SUPPOSED to be taking a lot of the attention because he's a focal point in the band both musically and visually.

But then you have something like Travis Barker here. Now, either they hired him for freakshow reasons and they don't care if he plays like he does in Blink 182 as long as they can attract the "yoof" demographic, or they DO care how he fits into the band and they want him to be appropriate. I'd suggest that the differentiation isn't made between playing and appearance here, because they both reflect on the same thing in the performance: Is this person a focal point in terms of attention or not? Travis on this video just looks to me like he's trying to make up for the fact that his playing isn't a focal point of the music by looking and acting like he's on a completely different gig. That don't impress me much, so to speak...

[JoshRead]

Don't worry about getting off to a bad start, this is an interesting topic and it's better than just arguing over whether Travis "sux" or something of the sort - so let's get to it!

My normal attire is pretty scruffy. I hate clothes shopping, so I make do with stuff basically until it falls apart and I'm in danger of getting arrested for indecent exposure. But if I get a call to play at a primarily classical performance - which has happened before... well... I wear a decent suit. Ditto a jazz gig. If I get asked to play a metal gig then out come the old scratty Tool T-shirts etc. It's just the same for working. If I'm going into work at a fairly informal media company then I'll just wear pretty standard stuff (avoiding the scratty Tool T-shirts, of course), yet if I'm getting called to go somewhere where they have a dress code then I dress up. The reason for this is basically that dressing deliberately different from the people around you is a very loud shout for attention and generally speaking I'd rather demand attention through my work before my appearance. It's better to understate your appearance and overemphasise the quality of your work, generally, otherwise people tend to think you're a bit of a ("indecent piece of anatomy" - Ed).

You see my point? How I normally dress isn't an issue, because any out-of-place dress on a gig (be it a suit on a metal gig or a metal T-shirt on a jazz gig) immediately calls attention to the person wearing it. Ditto behavior. Now, that's cool if your role is to call attention to yourself - but that's a cross-applicable thing which also reflects on your playing. So if you're dressed like a maniac and playing like a maniac I don't see an issue with that - see Terry Bozzio on the Zappa "Baby Snakes" video. He's SUPPOSED to be taking a lot of the attention because he's a focal point in the band both musically and visually.

But then you have something like Travis Barker here. Now, either they hired him for freakshow reasons and they don't care if he plays like he does in Blink 182 as long as they can attract the "yoof" demographic, or they DO care how he fits into the band and they want him to be appropriate. I'd suggest that the differentiation isn't made between playing and appearance here, because they both reflect on the same thing in the performance: Is this person a focal point in terms of attention or not? Travis on this video just looks to me like he's trying to make up for the fact that his playing isn't a focal point of the music by looking and acting like he's on a completely different gig. That don't impress me much, so to speak...

After reading your first sentence, I was thinking, "Okay, cool. We'll have a civilized argument." Then I read the rest of your post. I actually agree with you. You've changed my mind. Great explanation my friend! I don't know what his intentions were playing like that, and I definitely don't believe the higher-ups should've picked him out of all the other drummers there are. I do believe that he did a decently good job playing, but I agree that what he wore was uncalled for.

[radiofriendlyunitshifter]

i thought it was fine. i don't know if he was trying to be a showman or what, but i didn't

care for all the huge swinging hi hat strokes.

[DWDrummer]

And you know, I don't like how some poeple cut their hair, or what color shirts people wear.

Also, I hate how people blink their eyes, or walk a certain way. Another thing I don't like is how some people grow out their beards 3/4 of an inch.

Give me a break, if your going to argue what Travis is wearing, judge yourself first (are you wearing an acceptable shirt???? Is it the right color?) Don't judge his hair style orw/e, that's rediculous

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

The simple fact is, unless you're a superstar drummer, you'll get kicked out of a gig for wearing inappropriate dress. It really is just that simple. Wearing a 'Poison' T-Shirt full of holes to play Dixieland is going to earn you a sharp sacking.

[DWDrummer]

I heard one year at drum day L.A., travis was suppose to go after marco minneman and he didn't want to go on, is this true?

[beatsMcGee]

i never heard that and id doubt it too, i dont think hes ashamed of what he can do wether it is better or worse than Joe Blow.. he brings to the table what he brings to the table.. love it or leave it ya know..

peace

[DWDrummer]

yes that's what I like about him the most. On this forum everyone is so concerned about who's better than Travis. He doesn't even care. He doesn't see music as a competition or whatever.

[beatsMcGee]

id question that, i dont think hed play like that every day on tour just to look cool, while many people now may copy his style of setup b/c they think its cool is different and undenyable, but i think he plays whats comfortable to him.. it really wouldnt make sense other wise.

[76RogersLondoner]

I think Travis is cool because he is a drummer.i think I am cool because I am a drummer.I dont judge other drummers,coz at least they are playing the right instrument! Im not saying I dont have my favourites,but I reckon we should all acknowledge that playing drums is not about competing in a never ending battle for the "best drummer" mantle.

[ewanlaing]

right.....er......was my earlier post deleted? i thought it was pretty much acceptable.
anyway, i think his verse beat for "the anthem part 2" is really creative. on the filp side i think he could have done a lot more with things like "what's my age again".
sometimes he seems really on top of things, and other times he just doesn't have the same interest factor for me.

[beatsMcGee]

right.....er......was my earlier post deleted? i thought it was pretty much acceptable.
anyway, i think his verse beat for "the anthem part 2" is really creative. on the filp side i think he could have done a lot more with things like "what's my age again".
sometimes he seems really on top of things, and other times he just doesn't have the same interest factor for me.

i loved that breakdown in anthem part 2, i was so stoked when i learned that !

[infernal drummer]

I need to get this out....
I LOVE BLINK-182. They write catchy fun music.
I LOVE BOXCAR RACERr they also write good music.
I like most of his projects, and the rest of the blink guys.
Travis barker is pretty damn good in my opinion, but i take my inspiration from EVERYTHING and EVERYONE, classic drummers, Great drummers, bad drummers, local drummers..Life lessons, spirituality, my surroundings, my lifestyle. I incorporate all of this in my drumming.
EVERY ASPECT OF MY LIFE is in my drumming.
music is about feeling, he show is well.
Its all opinion, thats mine.
and I must say he looked like an ass up there with the country stars, he shoulda chilled out, and that wasnt his place.

sorry for typing so much crap... maby im right maby im wrong, o well. =]

well i dont own a blink 182 cd.. but i love the videos they made and like you i get influenced by alot of drummers.. bands like them and red hot chilli peppers, green day and all those, "normal" type music/drumming is very easy, or fairly easy to play. so i dont think the drummers in those band are "awesome". i mean they do their part, and they do it well.. easy for most drummers who are learning like me.

[King Crimson]

20 Million albums musicianship does not give.

You got that right.

We got Hootie and the Blowfish here in South Carolina.

[TC_759]

I just wanted to say that just because a drummer doesnt play technicaly difficult grooves or fills does not make them a bad drummer. to be a good drummer you must also be a good musician. and the most important thing when playing with a group is what you add to the music to make it better. Some music reqiures technicaly difficult parts in places and in some music the most simple groove fits perfectly.

Im not trying to cut this guy down or disrespect him in any way im just using this quote from his last post as an example.

Infernal Drummer: ["bands like them (Blink 182) and red hot chilli peppers, green day and all those, "normal" type music/drumming is very easy, or fairly easy to play. so i dont think the drummers in those band are "awesome". i mean they do their part, and they do it well.. easy for most drummers who are learning like me."]

Now infernal drummer probably has some musicical experience but, it took me a number of years to realize this myself. These so called "normal" bands or "normal" music i gaurentee is not that easy to play if you do it like these guys do.

What inexperienced drummers dont notice is the perfect timing, and the feel of the groove that drummers like Chad Smith put into there playing. Little things like very low volume ghost notes that you wouldnt notice unless you were listening closely, as well as the placement of these notes in the song are commonly over looked.

As for Travis even of your a blink fan or not, he changed the entire sound of that band, how they play, write songs, everything. there are a lot of bands out there that you can tell their drummer was influenced by Travis. I dont beleive his drumming can be catigorized as normal, he has a sound and a style that no one brought to the table before him.

[infernal drummer]

well you are probaly right that they are more difficult, than i would have quessed. but like i said i havent got any cd's with them so ive havent heard all the songs blink 182 made. there might be, and probaly is, some chops that would take some time to learn :) but if i didnt had to go to work and lived by playing drums in a band, it wouldnt take to learn to learn, i quess.. i quess it all comes down to practice . one thing is for sure though. i can NEVER play like http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103 this guy.. i would love to though :)

[chris182]

I think Travis is great drummer no matter what u guys say his technique or skill is being fast so what if he uses it in his solo at least he shows he can play really fast and really clean. He's also amazing by combining many rudiments cdombining different styles music.he knows what to do with his solos he does basso novaS anything he's showing he can do it all those drummers are great drummers too that u guys are talking about but u guys just have to under stand hes really good hes won many awards and that proofs it. so thats all i have to say Travis is amazing drummer I admire him for his quickness , style,everything he's done to this world

[chris182]

Ok, I have read just about every one of these posts in this entire discussion. What you people need to understand is that you can't compare drummers from different genres and styles of music. Each category of music requires different musical needs. Travis being in the punk/pop-punk/general alternative uses different beats for his songs. Not all of his songs are fast tempo as many of you people have said. Where as Joey from Slipknot playing metal music, is required to play fast because of the style of music. Buddy Rich as some of you have mentioned is a great jazz drummer, but he doesnt play the same style drum beats as other drummers. All you people should understand is that Travis really is a great drummer for what kind of music he plays. Every drummer is great in their own way.
chris 182
finally someone makes sense everything u said is true bro I admire Travis for his STYLE

[chris182]

Nothing he plays is very difficult, and he's not that fast. When I hear his solos, it sounds like he thinks solos are ALL about speed. He plays just like most of the customers I used to get annoyed with at Guitar Center. But he's not a bad drummer.
chris 182
u hav to understand in a solo u show what u got hes got speed so he shows it by playing he plays so crisp thats what people want to hear nothing he plays is difficult for u because I don't think hes ever shown everything hes got so hes not and annoying drummer its just maybe u think ur to good for him

[CVdrummer]

he was really out of place lol...made me lagh



couldn't they choose a different drummer for this gig?

[Dane]

Well ill guese i have my say, reguards to travis as a drummer i respect him only to the point that hes better then me, reguards to travis as a person (only judging from his tv show) he seems so egotistical, In the intro his is dubbed "The ultimate musician." Well thats rather debatable. But to my point, most of travis's audience are non-drummers, or a few drummers who maybe arnt that wel educated on the other forms a drumming. He knows how to impress his particular fan base, and i say good for him. Theres never going to be a person that everyone likes so if you know how the impress and entertain a group of people while entertaining yourself, go ahead and do it.

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

I think Travis is great drummer no matter what u guys say his technique or skill is being fast so what if he uses it in his solo at least he shows he can play really fast and really clean. He's also amazing by combining many rudiments cdombining different styles music.he knows what to do with his solos he does basso novaS anything he's showing he can do it all those drummers are great drummers too that u guys are talking about but u guys just have to under stand hes really good hes won many awards and that proofs it. so thats all i have to say Travis is amazing drummer I admire him for his quickness , style,everything he's done to this world.

The issue is not whether he can play fast and clean (since when was that a measure of a great drummer) of whether or not he's won loads of awards (for most part, awards are no measure of a good band, it's all BS). The main issue I personally have is with hero worship. Is Travis good? Yes, definately. But I think if he saw all the accolades his fans give him all the time he'd be more than embarassed.

[T-1000]

If Dave Weckl saw the accolades his fans give him, do you think he'd be embarressed? People often say that drumming is not a competition, and your affinity for one drummers' 'style' over anothers' is a subjective thing. If that is the case, why should I, or anyone be 'embarressed' for thinking that Travis is one of my favourite drummers, and why should he be 'embarressed' for having that said about him. Weckl may be technically far superior, but I enjoy Travis's feel, and his own sort of creativity a lot more.

Lots of people often say 'yeah, Travis is good, but you need to keep it in perspective' - and I think that argument only works on the grounds of technicality (and Travis actually has very efficient technique) - if someone says Travis is their favourite drummer, I think it is unfair to just write them off as an idiot, or a inexperienced drummer.

sorry, I can't spell 'embarressed'

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

I'm not saying you should be embarassed for liking Travis. Far from it. I'm merely stating that Travis is as aware as the rest of us of his ability and to hear constant (and unrealistic) accolades as to his ability may cause him embarassment.

[nicholasizzum]

i love travis but i think that hes creative enough to do something that would add a bit more to the song..
also i love the mohawk w/ the country ppl..

[TC_759]

In my opinion his drumming on the last self titled Blink album was great. It was more groove oriented than his style on previous albums. You could tell he was thinking out side the box when coming up with those songs. It was totally creative but still acompanied the song perfect. thats the skill that i admire about him most. other drummers may have that skill as well but his approach and style to it is a unique sound that no one else has.

[RossB15]

Right fair enuf he is a highly over rated drummer due to his teenage popularity. but could someone please list me, with evidence, of how he is a bad drummer? plus he does not go around thinking he is a good as drummer as some make him out to be, watch meet the barkers, read his interviews he just always talks about progressing or his influences that amze him. he isnt lik wow im the best.

[DWDrummer]

I'm not saying you should be embarassed for liking Travis. Far from it. I'm merely stating that Travis is as aware as the rest of us of his ability and to hear constant (and unrealistic) accolades as to his ability may cause him embarassment.

this is probably the only reply you need to read in this thread

[Mageneinfalt]

I just wanted to say something!!! You're right if you are saying Travis isn't the best drummer in the world and noone ever said that including Travis hisself. But if you look at most of the other Punk/Rock/Pop whatever drummer you'll see that he is pretty much the best. Maybe there are a few who have the same skills like he, but if they have they don't show it in the songs. If you comapare a Blink 182 song and anyother well known song you'll notice that he has the great abilityto put difficult stuff in the song. He doesn't just plays the same easy s*** everybody does. The one thing is being a good drummer and to have skills but the other thing is to use these skills in the songs and that's the thing that makes him so good.
And the other point that he doesn't deserves all he reaches is not right, too he is just a lucky guy who was at the right time at the right place and that's it. And why should he improve his skills they are fu***** awesome!!! He has everything he wants why should he imporve his style!!! His Motto is: ,,Life fast die fun" and that's how his life looks to me!!!

(I'm 16 and from Germany so there might be some mistakes)

[MyNameIsRyan]

Look at Phil Rudd, he's a great drummer and never played anything too complicated. I think Travis is overrated because way too many non-drummers see him and think speed is the only factor that makes a drummer good. He is good, but not great.

[ewanlaing]

why should he improve his skills they are fu***** awesome!!! He has everything he wants why should he imporve his style!!!
sure travis has skill at the drums, but you should ALWAYS improve.
let us turn to angus young, the ac/dc guitarist. a legend in the guitar world and he says he STILL learns guitar and reads books and practices new techniques.

so sure travis is great, but what if he was better?

[Mageneinfalt]

what would be if he would be better?
I think it wouldn't change anyything! Maybe his drummsolos would be better but thats nothing what a good drumm has to be good in. He already does the maximum you can do in punk-pop song and I think he is the best who combines speed and skills. And if you look at songs like Anthem Part 2 or Here's a letter for you or most of the songs at the last Blink 182 Album you see hoe great he his. And one more different is that he is able to record the whole drum parts just in 2 oder 3 days like he did at Enema of the State and Take off your Pants and Jackets. And there're videos from the recording of the last Blink Album where you can see that he plays a song just by trying different stuff and putting it togehther, and it sounds f****** awesome!!!

[ewanlaing]

yeah, but even if it won't change the music he plays in punk bands, improving his skill at the drumkit could open up other oportunities for him. i'm sure he does try to improve.
you should always strive to improve. even if i could play every solo on this site i would strive to improve.

[Zildjian232]

i admit it, i use to be one of those "traivs is god!" guys. my music taste broadend, i started to listen to zeppelin, tool, and dreamtheater. I remember being able to play every blink song including all that new stuff(i probley still can, i think its stuck in my head for eternity), and saying "now what". i remember trying to play anemia or schism for the first time and yelling at my drumset. then i realized how good travis barker really is.

like people said before he was deemed a "god" because his band was so popualr, but im not going to just bag on travis and his lack of skill. I liked his earlier stuff. when you listen to tere really early stuff when they had that other drummer scott, it was really bad, but then when they switched to travis you could notice the music had changed for the better. enema of the state and the mark tom and travis show, i think were good. its not like watching a boot leg vid of danny careys 7/8 solo in 46&2, but the drumming fit just like danny careys solo. the pants and jacket album was good. you should go find the stay together for the kids preformance on jay leno. i thought it was really good. its not like woooow but, he put all the fills in the right spots. and also the box car racer album. if you havnt heard it you shuld take a listen. he puts the right fills in the right spots in every song.

this new travis from the new self titled album was terrible. he just corrupted now. ive seen the vids on the blink site. the ego has gone to his head. he makes fun of tom and mark, and you can tell he loves himself and thinks hes god. His drumming has definley has been hurt because of that. and have you seen how much he moves his body. he could be doing a simple snare on 2 and 4 beat and still be boobing his head like he was trying to head butt his drums. and i think thats why blink broke up, beacuse travis's fame went to his head and there chemistry didnt work out anymore wtih the band.

well anyways, ive wanted to get that off my chest for a while so there it is. im completley over travis and i dont see myself being interested in any of his stuff that will come out in the future.

[Mageneinfalt]

there're a few thing I agree and a few thinks i don't.
First i think the old drummer scott was terrible, too. He was just playing the same, easy, boring beat. When Travis came into the band many things changend, I think think he took blink to a new level and they would have been that famous without him.
But I don't agree with the point that the last album(the drum parts) were bad. I think they were better than the last things he did and it was pretty much the best i have ever heard on a Punk cd. If you try to play it, i do, you'll see it's really difficult.
The point that he's bumping his heat that hard....mhm of course it is a lot of show but i think i looks really cool and passionate and you see that he put all his energie in the drums and maybe when he started he already bumped his head a bit and it became more and more...so.

But u think he deserves the fame because he was always since he was in blink like the third unfunny guy who can play the drumms really good, and the people recognized him and said oh he's cool and i think that just his time now!!!

But I don't think he is the reason for the Blink "hiatus". I really think it Tom because he changed so lot and became so serious, if you look at Box Car Racer and the last blink album and the new Angels and Airwaves album i think there was no place for the serious things in Blink cause blink was always funny and that would be to strange.

[Zildjian232]

like i said in my previous post. i can play all that new stuff. there decent but thats all the credit im going to give it. its not that hard at all. i never did like scott. he was just to boring listen to d***lips on there old album verses the part travis did on mark tom and travis show.

i forgot to put in my whole point about him head butting his drums. its now just a image thing? can you see it. I saw the preformance of him playing "i miss you" on pepsi smash. hes moving way to much. its beyound going with the rrhytem or a little showsmanship, its just getting ridiculous now. look at his new solo that was on his show. hes bouncing on the seat when all hes doing is 16th notes over the toms. hes all about image now, you cant see that? hes playing for all those rapers trying to put out a hardcore punker image. look at him during the days of take off your pants and jacket. he was mellow. he just had a skater kind of style to him, he was obviously the beter musician of the 3 but he had his head on.

i remember watching a video on blinks site where Tom is playing some gutair riff he made up. and the camera goes to travis and he says " thats jus ok, its medioker" making fun of his long time band mate. and i remember there was a video of him playing drums to some song. at the end the camera guy was like "wow thats great" and travis responded " yeah im just warming up, i was just flowing"

thats just some of the examples. and Tom being serious? i saw all those vdis. hes just as perverted and funny as before.(not that its a bad thing, hes a funny guy) the band wanted to put out a more serious album, probley matured a little bit by age, but i dont think they broke up becasue mark and tom lost there sense of humor. im 99% its becaue of travis's big head

[Mageneinfalt]

sure they didn't lost their humour but they became more serious on the songs, and maybe tom coulnd't express what he is now expressing in AVA.

But I remember an other video where the three playing a song, one of those videos while they were recording the self-titled album, where tom said to travis: i don't like part it really sucks and then he tried something new and it was still not ok and treid again and three thought it was good and travis said f*** that really sound much better.

[DWDrummer]

[/QUOTE]
i remember watching a video on blinks site where Tom is playing some gutair riff he made up. and the camera goes to travis and he says " thats jus ok, its medioker" making fun of his long time band mate. and i remember there was a video of him playing drums to some song. at the end the camera guy was like "wow thats great" and travis responded " yeah im just warming up, i was just flowing"

[/QUOTE]

Be careful what you say. Sorry you are wrong. The video where Tom is playing a riff and Travis says "that's okay...," he was kidding of course. The video where Travis is freestyling while Mark is playing bass, Travis does not say he was "warming up." He said, "I was just freestyling because we never played that song before, that was me speaking to my drums.' It's people like you who exaggerate videos/stories like these and stretch them to be false. Before you write something like that, make sure you know blink-182 well.

As for Tom and his new band, it's very catchy, cool- whatever. I just read an article where he says he hasn't talked to Mark or Travis in over SEVERAL months. What kind of a friend is that? And I am so tired of Tom making a global announcement of how Angels and Airwaves is going to revolutionize rock.....the new cd is good and all.. but it sounds like he just listened to U2 all day.(which he said he pretty much did) ..then made a record...

[DWDrummer]

[QUOTE=But I remember an other video where the three playing a song, one of those videos while they were recording the self-titled album, where tom said to travis: i don't like part it really sucks and then he tried something new and it was still not ok and treid again and three thought it was good and travis said f*** that really sound much better.[/QUOTE]

And your point? Pretty pointless...

[Mageneinfalt]

Maybe i have seen an other video, i don't know. But if it's not true what I said...then sorry!!!

[DWDrummer]

Maybe i have seen an other video, i don't know. But if it's not true what I said...then sorry!!!

no hard feelings at all man... Travis is just a very humble guy,, he justt plays drums.. his passion... he doesn't diss on other peoples talents/abilities

[beatsMcGee]

this is directed to Zildjian232:

firstly i think you are making claims that one, you cant prove or logically support, and two, you have no idea what Travis is thinking and or doing... your taking videos and and trying to claim that "hes bouncing in his seat" b/c hes goten big headed? hes always done that.. i really dont think that any one, me included, can make claims such as that.. you have no idea, and will not have any idea why Travis does the things he does unless he tells you himself.. but i can tell you this: that you sound like your out trying to rip travis a new one, you cant say Blink broke up cause of Travis... give logical evidence rather than your personal opinion... and what facts have you got that he has become big headed.... i mean every single video ive seen of him he was always talking about trying to improve and progress and just stay busy cause he loves different types of music and just playing... and he seemed humble.. and yes i am a fan of him but im not delusional and trying to claim hes the best/fastest or what ever you want to sterotype me with i just like his music.. im just geting rather tired of reading posts that say "TRAVIS ROXoX" and posts like "travis is the worst thing that stepped behind a kit, and hes a jerk".. i can understand you saying "im not into his music" or its "not my style" or hell "i think hes just mediocre or sucks" but to say hes goten bigheaded and is the cause of blink's breakup is just ludicris... sorry for the long post, but i think your way out of line with some of your statements, but i respect your opinion of his skill level, and that is not what im questioning.. just you have made some outrageously wrong claims...

[DWDrummer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI48_WdrExA

[Mageneinfalt]

what do you wanna say with this????

[DWDrummer]

this is a travis barker thread, where you post your opinion about him, and I posted a video, which includes travis barker, do you understand?...jerk

[drumbandit]

i really agree with what i think it was beat1212or something said. that travis lays beats which the other musicians then play along with. so if he did complex and individual drumming their style just wouldn't work

[Mageneinfalt]

@ DwDrummer

oh...i thought you wanted to say something that he's moving his body to much or something like that

[drumroll888]

Barker should try and play with Allan Holdsworth .

Then someone could tell me how good of a drummer he is .

[DWDrummer]

@ DwDrummer

oh...i thought you wanted to say something that he's moving his body to much or something like that

oh no i just wanted to post it bc i think its a cool video

[Mageneinfalt]

Oh yeah...i totaly agree with you

[TC_759]

most people on this forum have logical opinions, and can back them up. others are very ignorant of what a good drummer sounds like. opinions like this come from little experience and incorrect knowledge, or just plain arrogance. If some one says "i can play all that new stuff." or "its not that hard at all." i dont buy it. if you posted a recording of you playing those songs and then compared it to barker's work on that album would it be comparable? Could you match his timing, feel, dynamics, etc.. ? if you could it would be impressive, if not they just may be a little more challenging than you thought.

[beatsMcGee]

most people on this forum have logical opinions, and can back them up. others are very ignorant of what a good drummer sounds like. opinions like this come from little experience and incorrect knowledge, or just plain arrogance. If some one says "i can play all that new stuff." or "its not that hard at all." i dont buy it. if you posted a recording of you playing those songs and then compared it to barker's work on that album would it be comparable? Could you match his timing, feel, dynamics, etc.. ? if you could it would be impressive, if not they just may be a little more challenging than you thought.


you may be right, but that is not why im responding, i am responding becasue those are some of the main reasons i like his music.. on all the recordings ive loved the way his drums sounded so much on so many different albums..

[Mageneinfalt]

i even think the "new stuff" is more difficult then the "old stuff"!!!
If you listen to the last albums he made with blink or transplants etc. you'll see that it's something you don't hear very much in Pop/Punk/Rock!!! To me it was soemthing totaly new!!! And it's really not that easy to play!!!

[beatsMcGee]

that is subjective, because it depends on the individuals skill level.. its not the most insainly complicated stuff, its just fun, sounds good, and creative.. i like it alot

[Lee Mangano]

Look at Phil Rudd, he's a great drummer and never played anything too complicated. I think Travis is overrated because way too many non-drummers see him and think speed is the only factor that makes a drummer good. He is good, but not great.

My name is Lee

Just goin thru these posts, I have to completely agree with you...I didn't look up your profile & don't know your experience or age but you make a great point, and I have to assume you are a professional & serious drummer.

The most asked question is Q: So who is the greatest drummer in the world ??

My Answer is: Theres way too many to count...and way too many varieties of styles to distinguish and point out 1 specific drummer as being the best.

I ask..would "AC/DC" be as solid & groove oriented rock as they are if Neil Peart was their drummer ....and would "Rush" be as progressive and unique in their odd time playing with Phil Rudd's style of playing ?

No, both bands would be weaker in getting their musical point across, but it doesn't make 1 drummer better or worse than the other...I consider them both top of their field in music & drumming ability...

As far as Travis Barker...I respect that he has been noticed in this business, but as a drummer I believe the fact that his bands record sales where high, he has a ton of tattoo's and VH1 did a "Meet the Barkers" show is the only reason Travis gets the notoriety & exposure he gets...it has nothing to do with his unimpressive drumming....

Lee Mangano

[beatsMcGee]

while i see your point and its valid, i cant help but to ask myself.. "could neil pert play an ac/dc song with the same feel and groove" and i honestly thing he could.. not saying anything bad about Phil Rudd, but im pretty sure Neil could fill in fine.. maybe there is a better analogy out there that i couldnt question as easily..

i get your point tho ..

[hd_drummer]

shall i add my opinion why not everyone else seems to be...

not my personal favorite but i'm in no position to be ragging on him all in all travis he's cool with me

[TC_759]

my question is for Lee Magano. what did you find unimpressive about his drumming? just wondering your opinion. -TC

[beatsMcGee]

Lee what band do you play in?

[Mageneinfalt]

My name is Lee

As far as Travis Barker...I respect that he has been noticed in this business, but as a drummer I believe the fact that his bands record sales where high, he has a ton of tattoo's and VH1 did a "Meet the Barkers" show is the only reason Travis gets the notoriety & exposure he gets...it has nothing to do with his unimpressive drumming....

Lee Mangano

Well, i think Travis is a pretty lucky guy because he came in the right band at the right point, and the people recognizede that he's not only a normal drummer, but that he's a good entertainer, too and that`s why he got his own tv show and of course he just gets his image by seeling many records and having a lot of tattos, but there you can see it is all about the image and i think blink would never be there where they are now without travis!!!
And of course it's your opinion that you think his drumming is unimpressive but i think that's what it's definitelty not because if it would be unimpressive he wouldn't have been that famous now because his style of playing the drums made him to what he's now!!

[Never Stop! woohoo!]

Travis Barker is not the greatest soloist of all time, but he certainly is one of the greatest drummers, if you listen to the actual music in the bands that he is in. (especialy Boxcar Racer) Since that music is popular, he is one of the biggest influences on other drummers of the new generation, including me. He is the ONLY drummer that incorporated that kind of complex style into this particular type of music, and definately deserves the recognition that he got. I am not saying he is the best drummer, I am saying...well...what I just said.

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

Just as a counter argument against what you said, what are your thoughts on Josh Freese? Again, Travis is a very good drummer and in terms of influence he is certainly one of the most influential out there. I suppose to your definition of 'greatness' Travis is a great drummer, but my definition of great is different.

[beatsMcGee]

josh freeze is sick.. love his drumming

[gringo998]

jish freese is the man.
but anyway.

il be honest. i had a travis barker fase.
i grew out of it,
i had an anti travis barker frase
i grew out of that too
i dont listen to any of the bands hes been in anymore

but i realized something that everyone esle should to.

HE IS DOING WHAT HE LOVES! HE IS GETTING PAID MONEY FOR HIS PASSION! I ENVY HIM FOR THAT. NOT FOR HIS APPERANCES ON MTV, NOT FOR HIS FAME, BUT FOR LIVING THE DREAM MAN. I THINK WE SHOULD ALL REALIZED THIS.

[Mageneinfalt]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TJTXfnM-VuE&search=travis%20barker%20canada%20

[cdawg_2010]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TJTXfnM-VuE&search=travis%20barker%20canada%20
nice. i love that song and usually its a lot faster. he plays great in happy holidays, you b******

[Mageneinfalt]

Yeah...you see that he doesn't just plays fast!!!

[beatsMcGee]

i love that vid.. ive seen it before... thats a pretty sweet groove...

[fusion_bigband_rock]

did anyone see travis barker at the country music awards, i thought it was so funny, i can't find a video of it any where though, if anyone has a site for me that wuold be great thanks

[pdp 9091]

already a thread

clickey (http://drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12833&highlight=travis+barker+country+music)

[T.Underhill]

BAM! Right from B's own Drummerworld Forum...

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12833

[fusion_bigband_rock]

oh...should probably check the threads first shouldn't i

[Lee Mangano]

jish freese is the man.


HE IS DOING WHAT HE LOVES! HE IS GETTING PAID MONEY FOR HIS PASSION! I ENVY HIM FOR THAT. NOT FOR HIS APPERANCES ON MTV, NOT FOR HIS FAME, BUT FOR LIVING THE DREAM MAN. I THINK WE SHOULD ALL REALIZED THIS.

Gringo
I have no problem with him livin the dream, God Bless him... I didn't bring the subject up I only responded to it because it does trouble me the amount of recognition he gets does not come even close to his talent level...

If you look on the opening page of this website under the "Most viewed" it's Buddy Rich, Neil Peart, Louie Bellson and.... "TRAVIS BARKER" ...

Thats like in a statement about NFL QB's you mentioned Joe Montanna, Dan Marino, Bart Star, Jonny Unitus, John Elway and " TRENT DILFER"....

I use Trent Dilfer because he has a Super Ring, gets Paid for his passion and livin his dream like you say, but still is mentioned in the same sentence with that group of players as Travis Barker....with the "truly "Greatest" drummers of all time. Doesn't quite fit.

My oppinion mostly comes from the live drum solo he has on the website...the one were 75 % of the time he is actually playing a basic drum beat...the same beat i teach all my beginner students starting at 7 years of age. And some of my students don't lose time like he does playin that simplistic solo...embarresing !!!

The sad part is he actually stops to listen to people clapping & screaming about 4 times & starts the basic drum beat again...it's very sad....and embarressing and displays exactly how medioca & unimaginative & unimpressive Travis Barker is to answer your other statement and mine....

I hope the next drummer listed on the most viewed sites on Drummerworld is one of the 12 or 13 yr olds on here that are rediculas in Talent & playing from the heart like the 8yr old on the trash cans with sisters 4-8 yrs old dancin for him...they're smokin individuals...

those are the people I would hope the majority would look up to, I think in the entertainment world you have to recognize true talent & not think someone has it only because they are livin the dream...and getting paid for it....

In my world I was brought up that you earn respect, and don't expect it unless you can back it up with truth, confidence and talent no matter what your cause or way of life is

Peace!! and have a "Great" day...Lee

[Lee Mangano]

Lee what band do you play in?

Hi Mr.McGee

I am 147 yrs old...in the 70's & 80's My band "NRG" opened & toured with Nazareth, Judast Priest, KIX, Extreme, Wendy "O", Blue Oyster Cult & many others...

Without giving you the long boring typical Rock Band story that ends up in Superior Court...we managed to get a song on the original "Transformer" The Movie Soundtrack...Leanard Nemoy & Judd Nelson were in it & Rick Derringer etc...was also on soundtrack our song was "Instruments of Destruction"...

We are attemting to get on the new Transformers real action movie to be released July 4th, 2007 by Dreamworks & Steven Spielburgh...George Clooney & John Voit are a few in it... If you want to see or read more about my accomplishments, go to my website...www.drumschool.net

Peace!! & have a "great" day....Lee

[Lee Mangano]

[QUOTE=Stu_Strib]I love this forum! This is the only forum on the internet (yes, I've checked them all, hehe) that can have an intelligent discussion about Mr. Barker without a huge fight breaking out.

His videos on drummerworld are the worst examples of good drumming of all the ones Bernhard has posted.

Thanks for the mature discussion on this topic, and lets hope all the "Travis Barker RULZ!" crowd stays away from this thread.


Stu
I couldn't agree more with you and have already replied a few times about that embarresing drum solo posted on his site...and of what i have read so far pretty mature discussion without outragous remarks that mean nothing.

My reaction to reply to this thread was when i saw on the home page the "Most Viewed" sites...Louie Bellson, Buddy Rich, Neil Peart & "TRAVIS BARKER"....

anyone who has questioned my original statement about his talent isn't responsable for his noteriety & exposure, but his Bands high record sales, VH1's show and a ton of Tatoo's got him where he is today....not his unimpressive (As you also mentioned) drumming...

Peace!!! & you have a "Great" day....Lee

[Lee Mangano]

my question is for Lee Magano. what did you find unimpressive about his drumming? just wondering your opinion. -TC

TC
Just watch his simplistic, un-imaginative, live drum solo on this website...if that doesn't convince anyone he is unimpressive, I can only say your not listening to the right players that will inspire you to be "Great" at your instrument instead of just medioca to make it.

Peace!!! Lee

[DWDrummer]

Someday, I would love to hear Mike Portnoy. I have also heard some great things about Travis Barker and Flo. I will really be looking forward to hearing these three play. Peter Erskine and John Riley are two great contemporary Jazz Drummers. Kenny Aronoff is one of the most “in demand” Rock Drummers of today. I know Kenny can play anything, and swing with the best of them. Terry Bozio and Simon Phillips are two other drummers I hope to catch someday.


that was a article from Art Verdi. He even likes Travis Barker. I don't know why most of you here don't think he's pretty good, but a lot of proffessional drummers have a lot of respect for him. Travis Barker is really good....you can't argue that.

I guess you European people just have some different opinions...

[gringo998]

Gringo
I have no problem with him livin the dream, God Bless him... I didn't bring the subject up I only responded to it because it does trouble me the amount of recognition he gets does not come even close to his talent level...

If you look on the opening page of this website under the "Most viewed" it's Buddy Rich, Neil Peart, Louie Bellson and.... "TRAVIS BARKER" ...

Thats like in a statement about NFL QB's you mentioned Joe Montanna, Dan Marino, Bart Star, Jonny Unitus, John Elway and " TRENT DILFER"....

I use Trent Dilfer because he has a Super Ring, gets Paid for his passion and livin his dream like you say, but still is mentioned in the same sentence with that group of players as Travis Barker....with the "truly "Greatest" drummers of all time. Doesn't quite fit.

My oppinion mostly comes from the live drum solo he has on the website...the one were 75 % of the time he is actually playing a basic drum beat...the same beat i teach all my beginner students starting at 7 years of age. And some of my students don't lose time like he does playin that simplistic solo...embarresing !!!

The sad part is he actually stops to listen to people clapping & screaming about 4 times & starts the basic drum beat again...it's very sad....and embarressing and displays exactly how medioca & unimaginative & unimpressive Travis Barker is to answer your other statement and mine....

I hope the next drummer listed on the most viewed sites on Drummerworld is one of the 12 or 13 yr olds on here that are rediculas in Talent & playing from the heart like the 8yr old on the trash cans with sisters 4-8 yrs old dancin for him...they're smokin individuals...

those are the people I would hope the majority would look up to, I think in the entertainment world you have to recognize true talent & not think someone has it only because they are livin the dream...and getting paid for it....

In my world I was brought up that you earn respect, and don't expect it unless you can back it up with truth, confidence and talent no matter what your cause or way of life is

Peace!! and have a "Great" day...Lee


you toatally got me wrong
i dont like travis barker probably as much as you do
and so what if theyre are "eleventeen yearolds" who beleve he is the greatest drummer out there. sure its wrong, but im saying we should just forgert about it and stop bashing.
i cant stnad the way travis barker plays. and yeah it is discusting on how much fame he gets for it, but what can we do? hes doing well, and hes happy.

[beatsMcGee]

Lee, i agree that one solo that you keep refering to is a little simplistic etc... but that is the worst solo ive ever seen him do and there are much better if you fancy looking... but i agree hes not the best and im not arguing that he is, i just enjoy his style and intensity and he is actually pretty creative, dispite the negativity that is spinning off that solo reveiw.. for example the MTV "duet" series that got cancelled way back in the day features blink-182 and of course Travis, they auditioned kids to play along with Travis to "Stay together for the kids" and during that duets he does some pretty creative stuff... but anyway...like i said im well aware there are much better drummers, and i love them too, but does it mean you have to only like the elite of the elite (as far as drummers) and one can not find qualites in other drummers to enjoy???

[DWDrummer]

lee mangano u are wack man.

look at another solo of his, that one you wrote an essay critiquing isn't his best work obviously...it's kind of weird you write a dam short story man.....don't go into specific detail... that's just scary....he's a good drummer... who gets paid to play drums... your pretty jealous if you ask me

it says ur a pro drummer in ur profile.. but I don't need your whole philosophy on travis barker man

[Lee Mangano]

lee mangano u are wack man.

look at another solo of his, that one you wrote an essay critiquing isn't his best work obviously...it's kind of weird you write a dam short story man.....don't go into specific detail... that's just scary....he's a good drummer... who gets paid to play drums... your pretty jealous if you ask me

it says ur a pro drummer in ur profile.. but I don't need your whole philosophy on travis barker man

DW
Thanx for the Compliment and the critism...Sorry I'm not good at getting my point across with 1 sentence...I'll try & shorten it up...I don't want the site to crash cause of my post

1st DW...I am not jealous of anyone in the world, I have accomplishments in this field, some maybe greater than Travis Barker, I am also "Honored" to be one of 1,300 drummers on this web site on "Links"pg & I just made the "Wish List" under M (Lee Mangano)...go to my website & view and your welcome to critisize me as I did Travis. Part of the biz

I never once said Travis sucks and I also blessed his success...and begrudge no one's happiness..he has some great qualities as a drummer, his aggresive playing & attack and visual appearence...but still to answer this original thread...his talent didn't get him were he is, you prove it did.

Lee

[altered_beast]

DW
Thanx for the Compliment and the critism...Sorry I'm not good at getting my point across with 1 sentence...I'll try & shorten it up...I don't want the site to crash cause of my post

1st DW...I am not jealous of anyone in the world, I have accomplishments in this field, some maybe greater than Travis Barker, I am also "Honored" to be one of 1,300 drummers on this web site on "Links"pg & I just made the "Wish List" under M (Lee Mangano)...go to my website & view and your welcome to critisize me as I did Travis. Part of the biz

I never once said Travis sucks and I also blessed his success...and begrudge no one's happiness..he has some great qualities as a drummer, his aggresive playing & attack and visual appearence...but still to answer this original thread...his talent didn't get him were he is, you prove it did.

Lee

you prove it didn't. had he not played in blink182 he wouldn't have got the recognition. remember that "Meet The Barkers" didn't start until blink was nearly on its last legs, so his success cannot be attributed to that really... I honestly think he gained the recognition for the way he plays. Sure, it's not the most creative drumming out there but can you imagine someone such as Neil Peart or Danny Carey playing the way they do to Blink182 pop punk songs? It simply wouldn't work. When you stand Travis Barker up against others in his genre who get similar credit (Tre Cool, the guy from Good Charlotte , the guy from Simple Plan [likewise], Derek Grant from Alkaline Trio [is that his name? it escapes me!]) he holds his own, with the exception of Derek, but I like Alkaline Trio a lot. Therefore his talent simply lies in being able to write suitable beats (note that's [I]suitable and not the best) for the music that Blink wrote. I personally like the middle section from "First Date" and the beat from "Feeling This", to name two. I'll make the point now that I'm not a massive fan of Blink but I was quite into punk/ pop-punk in recent years and Blink were one of the bands whose albums have rested amongst my collection and a couple of their CD's still do. I don't dislike them, but they're far from my favourite. I wouldn't say Travis is amazing, but he's certainly good at what he does. His being overrated - depends on who you talk to.

Enjoy my essay, the novel will be out in the fall... heh.

[d.c.drummer]

i used to chase drummers set ups. Then i realized how many drummers i was chasing and how many set-ups there were, almost none the same. So I said to my self "If their ways are perfect for them and thier not copying anybody why should i copy them? I should play my perfect set-up, no thiers". After which my mom immediatly got me checked for talking to myself...


... but when i got back i built my kit from the floor up. Ive never been happier.

[Bonham15]

I think you should just set up your kit however your comfterable with it. if your not comfterable with your set up, how are you gonna get better and learn new things. Its kinda of like would you rather your kit be like everyone else, and suck, or would you rather be great, with a setup that no one else has?

[pdp 9091]

Dont sacrafice ability just for appearance

[Class A Drummer]

My name is Lee

Just goin thru these posts, I have to completely agree with you...I didn't look up your profile & don't know your experience or age but you make a great point, and I have to assume you are a professional & serious drummer.

The most asked question is Q: So who is the greatest drummer in the world ??

My Answer is: Theres way too many to count...and way too many varieties of styles to distinguish and point out 1 specific drummer as being the best.

I ask..would "AC/DC" be as solid & groove oriented rock as they are if Neil Peart was their drummer ....and would "Rush" be as progressive and unique in their odd time playing with Phil Rudd's style of playing ?

No, both bands would be weaker in getting their musical point across, but it doesn't make 1 drummer better or worse than the other...I consider them both top of their field in music & drumming ability...

As far as Travis Barker...I respect that he has been noticed in this business, but as a drummer I believe the fact that his bands record sales where high, he has a ton of tattoo's and VH1 did a "Meet the Barkers" show is the only reason Travis gets the notoriety & exposure he gets...it has nothing to do with his unimpressive drumming....

Lee Mangano
i truly could not agree more. I feel especially that last part was as perfect an explantion for what i think about barker.

[toxegendrummer]

Barker, just like ulrich, drum for the song, not too make things technical or anything but to just serve the songs its drum parts...they dont need to be a speed demon or need progressive style or anything like that unless...the songs requirses it to work...unfortunately, their bands dont, so they dont do it

[gumpstar]

to the question on page one, why havent steve gadd or vinnie coliuta got their own tv show?

cos they would bore normal people senseless, people who dont play drums that is!

[chris 2006]

I totally agree with the idea of, he is over rated for all the wrong reasons. I mean i could understand the thing about "wow, hes fast! so he must be good." but i think of that as a very inexperienced view on drumming. His solo's will be good... to some one who knows nothing about drummers and drumming, but to some one who knows about these things you would much prefer to listen to Mike Portnoy or something like that becaus it is good drummer with heart and feelings in it, not just fast hands.

Regards
Chris

[mattsmith]

I totally agree with the idea of, he is over rated for all the wrong reasons. I mean i could understand the thing about "wow, hes fast! so he must be good." but i think of that as a very inexperienced view on drumming. His solo's will be good... to some one who knows nothing about drummers and drumming, but to some one who knows about these things you would much prefer to listen to Mike Portnoy or something like that becaus it is good drummer with heart and feelings in it, not just fast hands.

Regards
Chris

I think Barker has lived next to the he's fast quote for too long a time. I don't even really think this is entirely true. I think he employs theatrical physical mannerisms that make him appear faster than he actually is. This is combined with agressively accented double time and triplet patterns that create an illusion that more is going on than is actually occurring.

When I listen to or observe Joe Morello for example, I see an economy of very relaxed movement that on the surface makes you think he is slow as a tortise. But to listen to the recording of that same performance is a much different thing indeed, along with an obvious highest end musicianship that is obvious to all.

[larrylover]

My name is Lee

Just goin thru these posts, I have to completely agree with you...I didn't look up your profile & don't know your experience or age but you make a great point, and I have to assume you are a professional & serious drummer.

The most asked question is Q: So who is the greatest drummer in the world ??

My Answer is: Theres way too many to count...and way too many varieties of styles to distinguish and point out 1 specific drummer as being the best.

I ask..would "AC/DC" be as solid & groove oriented rock as they are if Neil Peart was their drummer ....and would "Rush" be as progressive and unique in their odd time playing with Phil Rudd's style of playing ?

No, both bands would be weaker in getting their musical point across, but it doesn't make 1 drummer better or worse than the other...I consider them both top of their field in music & drumming ability...

As far as Travis Barker...I respect that he has been noticed in this business, but as a drummer I believe the fact that his bands record sales where high, he has a ton of tattoo's and VH1 did a "Meet the Barkers" show is the only reason Travis gets the notoriety & exposure he gets...it has nothing to do with his unimpressive drumming....

Lee Mangano


You make a totally correct point




HOWEVER!!!!! Travis barker's drumming is an essential part in the songs of Blink 182. Unlike most music, the drum part essentially leads the songs. most bands have the steady drum beat "back up". even though they also lead, blink 182 is a power trio, and therefore a more complicated and "filled" part is appropriate.




Travis essentially wrote a lot of the songs with his drum beats, which most of us cannot say without feeling a little guilty.

[T-1000]

When I first heard Travis's playing, I was instantly hooked and it made me want to become a drummer. I think Travis has done that - made people want to drum - more than any drummer I know of, and I think the reason for this is that his beats and patterns harbour a fundamental 'catchiness' that appeals strongly to all people - be they drummers or not.

He was the first drummer I was exposed to that actually enhanced the songs he played on, as opposed to merely keeping time, and, as a result, he will always be one of my favourite drummers.

His technique may be questionable, and his showmanship excessive - but I challenge you to find me a modern (pop) punk drummer whose rhythms and fills stick to the back of the brain so fiercely...

Oh yeah, Derek Grant (Alk3) and Dave Ruan (Lagwagon) are also pretty good.

[beatsMcGee]

When I first heard Travis's playing, I was instantly hooked and it made me want to become a drummer. I think Travis has done that - made people want to drum - more than any drummer I know of, and I think the reason for this is that his beats and patterns harbour a fundamental 'catchiness' that appeals strongly to all people - be they drummers or not.

He was the first drummer I was exposed to that actually enhanced the songs he played on, as opposed to merely keeping time, and, as a result, he will always be one of my favourite drummers.

His technique may be questionable, and his showmanship excessive - but I challenge you to find me a modern (pop) punk drummer whose rhythms and fills stick to the back of the brain so fiercely...

Oh yeah, Derek Grant (Alk3) and Dave Ruan (Lagwagon) are also pretty good.


i agree with you completely.. except the part where you question his technique.. on the contrary i think that is one of the few things non-Barker fans agree on.. is that he does have good technique....on the other hand people do make remarks on the way he sets his kit up... but ive seen plenty of weird ass setups on this site... and it all has to do with your personal comfort so that argument really dosnt hold up..

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

Travis' technique is a point of interest. In many ways you can tell his early drumming upbringing, the corps stuff. It's a tight grip that doesn't use much rebound with big sticks, as the majority of corps players play. Now most kit players would disagree with this approach (with a few notable exceptions). The important thing is that it works for him and it gets results, which are plain for all of us to see.

He's a flashy showman, he's an entertainer. He's a good drummer (not the best out there by any means, but for sure he's good) and he's inspiring kids to take up the drums. I see no issues. Beats, you actually make this thread worth reading sometimes, a positive voice of reason who's objective and not obsessed, but still a fan. More power to you.

[mattsmith]

Let's argue for pages on end about an endless topic.Let us be dumbasses and be jealous of someone who has accomplished more than 99% of us ever will.Yeah,sounds fun.
Russcat, I respect where you're goin' with that, but all music isn't about the fame and fortune angle. Do you really think Tony Williams or Elvin Jones ever cared about havin' a reality show or a mansion in Bel Air? Superficially, they only cared about being who they were, and knowing conclusively who others weren't. None of that has ever translated into walkin' around money.

As I have surveyed this thread, I really don't see alot of bashing. Most everyone with Travis criticisms state specifically why they feel the way they do, often with technical jargon to back it up. That's not bashing or jealousy, and is far different than sayin' you suck then just running away. As for the other side, I'm mostly seeing a series of misplaced love letters, along with some better posters like Beats McGee, who I believe are honestly trying to get everyone to see a middle road, although I continue to believe that his technique is an overblown issue for reasons I have already explained.

If we as musicians are equating success with how much stuff we have, then we are in the wrong profession.

[beatsMcGee]

Russcat, I respect where you're goin' with that, but all music isn't about the fame and fortune angle. Do you really think Tony Williams or Elvin Jones ever cared about havin' a reality show or a mansion in Bel Air? Superficially, they only cared about being who they were, and knowing conclusively who others weren't. None of that has ever translated into walkin' around money.

As I have surveyed this thread, I really don't see alot of bashing. Most everyone with Travis criticisms state specifically why they feel the way they do, often with technical jargon to back it up. That's not bashing or jealousy, and is far different than sayin' you suck then just running away. As for the other side, I'm mostly seeing a series of misplaced love letters, along with some better posters like Beats McGee, who I believe are honestly trying to get everyone to see a middle road, although I continue to believe that his technique is an overblown issue for reasons I have already explained.

If we as musicians are equating success with how much stuff we have, then we are in the wrong profession.

thanks for the compliment... that is all ive been trying to do since day one on this thread...

[Lee Mangano]

For me to Sum this up on a Positive note:

I've been reading & posting myself back & forth views on Travis Barker because of this thread...it's a valid subject, because of the level of noterioty & drumming ability, we all can learn from the comments & about other drummers views & complete differances of oppinions...thanks to Travis's success.

I think the main thing to learn from this thread, is we're all at differant levels of ability & success, depending on your own personal expectations, you may have already accomlished your goals, even if it will always be just a hobby for you & a love for the instrument...

there is a whole other world out there to deal with and that goal is fine & maybe realistic for you...should I critisize you...no, your problably smarter than me...LOL..but your also lucky enough not to be in the public eye were the whole world can all critisize & pick you to peices in forums like this & other media resources

But realize this for maybe your own future, because you may soon be in the limelight & will you be able to deal with this type of critisism ....the lesson to be learned from this forum is..

This may be the toughest part of the music industry, & the differance between you grabbing that ring or stepping down & settling for a more reasonable goal, critism can destroy a persons confidence, incentive & ambition

We can all thank & honor Travis Barker no matter what we think of his drumming for his strength, endurance and professionalism for over coming all the obsticles it takes to get where he is today...and maybe because of this forum someone out there will realize & be more aware of these obstacles that are just as important as talent & ability to be successful in the music business..as did Travis Barker...


Good Luck All...& sorry about the essay...

Peace! Lee

[beatsMcGee]

nice post Lee... i agree with you. its hard to come up in such a competitive buisness and make it to the top. i can only imagine the countless number of people that would probably try to discourage one from pursuing their goals in music... and i personally respect any one that can rise to the occation and make it in such a world... congrats to you, and to the many including Travis that have done so...

[ocdp rock]

travis barker is a legend no matter what you say tom me hes like buddy rich a pure legend hes well known everywhere travis's drums are cool and he is a legend. some of you say he's not fast but wacht the end of the fuel live solo i think its fast.

[ocdp rock]

look how far he has brought blink 182, i think there albums are alot better since he joined
and all of of the new bands he's made

[beatsMcGee]

travis barker is a legend no matter what you say tom me hes like buddy rich a pure legend hes well known everywhere travis's drums are cool and he is a legend. some of you say he's not fast but wacht the end of the fuel live solo i think its fast.


its fans like you that say things like this.. that make honest fans like me look very bad.... come on.. apreciate him, be a fan... but dont say stuff like this...

[Mageneinfalt]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yPSoTc5vUAE

[Mediocrefunkybeat]

travis barker is a legend no matter what you say tom me hes like buddy rich a pure legend hes well known everywhere travis's drums are cool and he is a legend. some of you say he's not fast but wacht the end of the fuel live solo i think its fast.

Fast? So what? Fast? Don't make me laugh.

[dawg]

"he's like buddy rich,a pure legend?!" are you serious? you need to look at both drummers body of work before making an ridiculous statement like that...there are hundreds of drummers known and unknown that come closer to BR than TB.

[d.c.drummer]

Travis Barker is a good solid drummer. He lays down some serious beats, keeps time and has good technique. He is a very good musician (how do you thin he got the Blink job anyway) and he deserves some respect. Som many people trip over theselves because he is "overated".I dont fully understand him being "overated". He is an entertainer and a good mucician, and thats why the people like him.

Im tired of all these drums snobs who think they are so "musical" not trying to give Tavis some cred for being the most popular so therfor in the public eye on of the best drummers in the Punk scene today. And also to all of the "snobs" out there, eing fast DOES matter. Buddy Rich would not have been the great he was withoout being fast. That being said, being fast is not everything. Now if anyone can come up to me and say Travis

#1- isnt fast
#2- doesnt play good beats and solid music
#3- is as self absorbed as Buddy Rich was

then we can have a discussion. I'm not saying Travis is as-good-as or better thatn BR, but he is a highly respectable drumer, period.

[Mageneinfalt]

Yeah i totaly agree especially the part that he is an entertainer. A good drummer is often a good entertainer, and with his whole "body-moving" he entertains the people. Of course to it looks very exaggerated but to peole who don't play drums it looks very cool.

And if you look on www.drummagazine.com you see that he became best Punk drummer and that has to have a reason. If you remeber he was drummer of the year a few years ago too.

[Mageneinfalt]

For everybody who is interested. There is a big interview with Mark Hoppus on b182.com.
He says everything ybout plus 44 and the broke up of blink 182.

http://www.b182.com/askmark1.php

[ewanlaing]

thanks for that link, it really cleared up a lot for me. i've been looking for that info for a while.

[Tb44]

Hi, can somebody tell which drumheads does travis use on his snare and how does he tune them, i just bought the emperor x and the hazy ambassador and i just dont get the sound travis has on his snare......

[DWDrummer]

you are really not going to get the sound like his snare unless you have a snare like his... which is at least $1500-2000

[Class A Drummer]

you are really not going to get the sound like his snare unless you have a snare like his... which is at least $1500-2000
1500$-2000$? where did you get numbers like that? ive seen plenty of signature snares and they go for like 300 or 400.

[pdp 9091]

you are really not going to get the sound like his snare unless you have a snare like his... which is at least $1500-2000


I hope that estimate is an exageration.

[Chip]

I take it you've never seen the prices on OCDP stuff? 1500-2000 sounds a lot closer than 3-400.

[ns3476]

I take it you've never seen the prices on OCDP stuff? 1500-2000 sounds a lot closer than 3-400.



Hes right, if you go look at orange county percussion drums on thier website they have some of the prices for thier snares, and they are around $1500-$2000

[petgeh]

If you are looking for the travis barker snare got to : http://www.ocdrum.com/drums/image.php?id=141&page=18&n=63&t=319

And if you are looking for his kit go to:
http://www.ocdrum.com/drums/image.php?id=131&page=18&n=59&t=319

[kickit100]

You dont need an OCDP snare drum to get his sound, you just have to know how to tune your snare.

[skippy]

the whole price thing is bull. pretty much all you are paying for is the badge on it with the orange county logo. they are keller shells. if you want travis' stuff at a rad price go to www.conawaydrums.com dave can do it. and extremly affordable prices. i had him price a replica of travis barkers amber achrylic set and it was a little over 2000 snare included. i wouldnt ever pay even that much for drums. just cause you can get the sound you here you favorite player play on any kit with the right heads and the right tuning.