why the z custom hating?

[JoeyWaters]

I see a lot of bashing going on concerning Z Customs. I have had a couple of 18" crashes that I liked very much. I thought they were loud yet musical. I have played nothing but Paiste for the last five years or so, so I don't know what Z Customs sound like now. Have they changed to something unholy as of late, or did I just like something that no one else did. I would never play anything else but Paiste now, but I was just curious.

[moe.ron]

i've played some of my teachers collections of zildjians. the old z are pretty nice but the new ones sound horrible to me. same thing goes for the ping ride. he has an old one that sounds beautiful it competes with my paiste 2002 ride but i cannot stand the new ping rides either

[dom]

i dont like the z customs because they are so thick that in order to get anything that i somewhat like i have to really smack them. my paiste crashes offer the same volume and much more versitility i can hardly touch them and get the great crash sound i want out of them. z customs are ok for people who want to stick only to metal and such but we dont have that many people here

[Zildjian 242]

There not very versatile. There ment for pretty much rock

But for about $20 more you can get Some Avedis that are VERY versitile

[rendezvous_drummer]

Z custom's are horrible imo. Love those A customs though.

[evans_69]

I agree that Z customs sound horrible on there own ..but boy do they record well + a few people have used them in gigs ive seen lately and they sounded good.. so i suppose they are not that bad.. not my cuppa though...

[Goody602]

Well I say to each their own. I agree with the above statements I hate Z Customs because I think they sound horrible and are too heavy but hey, if it's your sound, it's your sound. I've heard a lot of people say they think most Paistes are too bright, but I dig 'em.

[somedrummer]

I think it just has to do with the fact that they are very one-dimensional. They exist to be loud, and that's pretty much it. Every other line Zildjian makes can fairly comfortably fit into any genre, but the Z Customs really just fit into their one.

[maddrummr]

I think people hate Z customs because well they are for ROCK. thats it. Period
And really i dont think they are pro level quality, Zildjian could have done better.

[TitanSound]

I have 2 Z Customs. The 20" Power Ride and a 16" Rock crash. They are the older models purchased about 6 years ago. As my musical style has changed over the years I am getting tired of them. The ride gives a great ping but with that comes the clanginess. As for the crash it is a one trick pony....loud and proud. With my other cymbals (A's and A Customs) I get much more variety of sound.

[Jaden]

throw a bottom z custom dyno beat hi hat underneath a K top (or K custom too for that matter) and you have a punctuating/dynamic/ yet dry hat sound. I havent done much playing on other z customs, but those dyno beats (a heavy version of an already heavy cymbal type) really add positively to the sound of any hi hat combo.